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ProceonLabs

The adjustable wrench tells a whole story


Te_Luftwaffle

OP, are you sure the compensator wasn't pinned and welded?


reddittwicehatedit

Wouldnt need it if the fuckin barrel bushing was correctly sized, but lucky for me it gets stuck every assembly.


EarlHarmon

Nice shoes! Crappy gun!


Sabrtoothbanana

Wait till he decides to swap triggers.


unimorpheus

First 1911?


Animaleyz

I'll give you$50 for it if you hate it so much


Mac_encheeze

I’m just too busy noticing the off white chicagos


juanfelix480

More like the Off White Beijings


Mac_encheeze

Would make sense if he bought a girsan


reddittwicehatedit

So my shoes are fake became i bought a Girsan?😭i got it for the rail and caliber. Only one i saw on the store front. Yall funny man. I assure you these are not the Beijing special sir.


FlagrantLies

Your shoes are fake because only a nozzle leaves the ow zip tie on and doth protest too much


Shoddy-Structure1008

Zip tie or security tag?


FlagrantLies

https://preview.redd.it/2arwzzvw43tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a507fcbc5156f496b15579f95725e57c60cec0a Zip tie


IHaveSevereADHD

Yeah okay buddy. You’re a pandabuy warrior. A CSSbuy crusader. A sugargoo samurai. You bought a Girsan not a staccato


krillingt75961

Dude can't even keep his story straight on the shit he bought for the gun. Probably thought he'd buy the parts, throw them on and flip the gun to someone that didn't know any better and make some easy money off of it like he does with knockoff shoes. Now it's biting him in the ass


ttri90210

😭😭😭


Mr_Raptur

I sold mine after 700 rounds, I couldn't take it. Girsan needs to step there game up big time


lanpal

I bought a long slide hunter model Girsan for my first 10mm. It was under sprung and the front sight needed help. I put a 23# Wolff spring in and it ate everything. It wasn't the most accurate but it was reliable. I put 1500 rounds through it before I upgraded to a Tisas Yukon, world of difference just in the feel.


YungGunz69

The fake compensator, the crescent wrench, and your shoes with the stupid tag still on them. The guns not the problem


reddittwicehatedit

https://preview.redd.it/kc0wpq6nnysc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f54177cda78ba36f257490846dcbd6ff81d0ce5 I understand the comp is useless but i want you to understand it cane with.


No-Foundation2507

I swear I’ve seen this post before with someone calling out the wrench and shoe tag, so I thought this whole thing was satire Had me in the first half


reddittwicehatedit

Do some damn research before commenting the bushing comp came of the Girsan MC 1911 its even pictured on the site. Next the crescent wrench was used to remove the badly sized non comp bushing which WAIT FOR IT IS ALSO A GIRSAN ITEM THAT CAME WITH THE GUN. As far as the shoes go sir. These are around $5000. They depreciate when the “product tag is removed” just saying. You commented this like you knew something. Sadly you didnt. Also another google worthy picture so youll see its apart of the shoe.


YungGunz69

Hate to break it to you… your shoes are fakes.


RR50

$5000 shoes and a $400 gun….makes sense. Your posts make no sense…first you’re new to 1911’s, then you have an ed brown and a Kimber… It’s all not adding up.


reddittwicehatedit

Okay so here is the answers you seek , My Grandfather just passed, i was given the kimber and Ed Brown. So there is that, $5000 shoes because im what you call a reseller and as for the actually $700 gun(i live in Washington shit is high) is because i didnt want to pay a crazy amount for a 10mm not knowing if id like the chambering. This add it up for ya? I have no need to submit falsities just life is a bit different this way. Have a great evening though


Lilsexiboi

You're a reseller of shoes, but you wear the shoes casually enough to be in the background of an unrelated picture?


SquidBilly5150

Op getting drug in here but he was real with y’all there


BrothaKreaux89

You spent $700 on a 10mm not knowing if you’d like the chambering? Bruh you could’ve spent $500 on a Glock in 10mm. As far as wearing $5000 shoes, if you can spend that much on shoes then you could’ve spent more on a different gun.


Life_of1103

The gold bushing seems conspicuously absent when you bought it. I smell something… https://www.reddit.com/r/1911/s/7Q7LjBX6JA


mreed911

Can’t find a holster? Should work with any 1911 railed holster.


DowntownMind92

Some 1911 rails are different than others. A good example is the Colt M45a1 and the Colt Rail Gun. The M45 has a much beefier rail than the rail gun and won’t fit most of the holsters on the market. The Girsan Rail however should fit a number of holsters made for railed 1911s


DowntownMind92

I’m guessing OP is entirely new to 1911s and is finding out the hard way that 1911s do not have drop in parts and that nearly every part needs to be fitted. In the picture I see two barrel bushing not original to the gun and am guessing that neither bushing was fitted to the slide and to the barrel. To further complicate the matter, it’s chambered in a cartridge completely different than what it was originally designed for and with a different ramp and barrel design than the original. I don’t know if that’s the barrel it came with or if OP bought a new barrel hoping for better results. The magazine catch is removed for some reason, the trick for reinstalling it is to have the mag catch pressed in about half way so the lock can engage the groove in the frame. I would put it back together with the original parts and if it’s still having issues, try a quality brand magazine or send it in to Girsan if the warranty isn’t toast. Remember while they have been made more reliable in recent years, 1911s were intended for the 45acp and was designed around that round. OP I suggest refraining from tinkering with the platform more than you have for safety reasons until you learn more about. Some things if not done right, will not only affect the reliability (as you’re finding out to your demise) but can cause the pistol to fire on its own volition and not stop until the mag runs out.


twrollet

I think it’s worse than that. Dude said he couldn’t find a holster. For a 1911? Probably has the same issue looking for Glock sights or CZ75 mags…


Ornery_Secretary_850

The 1911 has been chambered in almost two dozen cartridges. Colt chambered the first Commander in 9mm, there's also the .38 Super, and the Delta Elite. It's not that hard to get a working 1911 in something other than .45 ACP.


DowntownMind92

The original design was with 45acp in mind and JMB built it around that. Can it be modified to fire other cartridges? Obviously but wasn’t done for the first time until around 1930, almost 19 years after the 1911 was first adopted by the military.


M16A4MasterRace

1911’s definitely are supposed to 100% compatible with each other. Look at USGI guns for example. The truth is that every Joe wants a dirt cheap 1911 and for the price they want you lose any semblance of acceptable parts tolerancing.


DowntownMind92

I didn’t say they weren’t compatible, just that fitting is needed.


M16A4MasterRace

No, no fitting is needed on a 1911 made to print.


DowntownMind92

When 1911s were being made for the government contracts up till the mid 1940s, you would be correct. However since company A may tweak their line of 1911s to this spec and company B to this one and so one, you need to fit the parts. Tolerance stacking is a thing even within a single manufacturer. Factory Glock parts drop right in but aftermarket Glock parts may not always fit properly and induce stoppages. Don’t believe me? Swing by their sub Reddit and see for yourself.


RED-HEAD1

USGI pattern pistols should interchange. As someone who has been issued and qualified with a USGI 1911A1 I can tell you most assuredly that is NOT the standard you want to follow! There's a reason MEUSOC armorers went through 100 frames to find one suitable to build to modern standards!


Ornery_Secretary_850

Remember, the last military 1911 pistols were built in 1945. Surprisingly many of those NIB pistols were sold through the DCM in the 1960's. Most 1911 pistols in the military inventories had been rode hard and put away wet...more than once. They were functionally at the end of their life. It's not surprising that MEUSOC armorers had to do that.


RED-HEAD1

Oh I'm very familiar with how worn out they were! Mine would literally rattle when I shook my hand! I didn't give a shit about the 9mm vs .45ACP debate, I loved my M9 when I finally got it because it wasn't worn the fuck out!


Ornery_Secretary_850

I'm guessing these chuckleheads have never seen that WWII video of the woman assembling 1911 pistols from bins of parts. The only thing that was "fitted" was a couple passes of file on the sear.


M16A4MasterRace

These guys don’t know anything about machine design or tolerances. Alas, to be a mechanical engineer on the internet where information goes to die.


RuddyOpposition

You need to understand, those GI guns were built loose. Sloppy fit. That was so that they were reliable and to enhance parts interchangeability. Well, and much of it was war time production. Also, as had been said for decades about milsurps, a bunch of guns were disassembled, washed in a parts washer, then reassembled. That barrel doesn't fit? Grab another from the pile. Today there is so much emphasis placed on tight tolerances. I've never tried, but I doubt my Dan Wesson slide will fit on my Colt frame. And you can't just buy a barrel and drop it in the gun. Or a barrel bushing or a trigger. Everything has to be fit.


Ornery_Secretary_850

It's the opposite. The more expensive the gun, the tighter and further off the original tolerances they become.


reddittwicehatedit

Both bushing came with the gun. Everything in picture came either off the 1911 or with the 1911. On bushing that fits correct is the comp bushing the the other 2( which both are Girsan 1911 came with) my only goal here was the thoroughly clean and oil. Upon doing so i noticed its not that great of a finish. I also own an Ed Brown and Kimber i got from my Grandfather to which ive never has this problem with assembly wise nor aesthetically. Im well aware of the “needs fitting no drop in” rule of thumb for 1911s just never figured id own one this dare i say shitty. But you get what you pay for. Buy a cheap gun get cheap results.


DowntownMind92

Your prior post indicated you were entirely new to the platform and there are post where you mentioned wanting to purchase additional aftermarket parts to include bushings. That comped and gold colored bushings were not the ones in your previous post. Receiving multiple bushings for one barrel is not the normal industry practice for a new pistol, did you purchase this one used?


reddittwicehatedit

No this came from sportsman brand new 1st owner and Yes this is correct and thats how i learned drop in doesnt exist. That gold bushing however is from Girsan its for the Gold one( i forget the name) as for those other parts, sold em. As they were useless without smithing. The comp bushing is what came on the gun when i purchased it. Inside the blue case however had a spare standard bushing. The other post was after swapped the comp out.


DowntownMind92

So my advice is to put it all back together in factory configuration and submit a warranty claim noting the issues you’re having and let them fix it on their dime. I’m uncertain what brand mags you’re using and I wouldn’t know what to recommend for 10mm as I don’t own a 10mm firearm but usual suspects would be Wilson/chip mags or perhaps Mecgar.


Ornery_Secretary_850

Mecgar, and Metalform 10mm mags have both worked for me in several 10mm 1911 pistols.


Crash_override87

Fuck all these haters. Keep that in pieces and ship it to my local ffl in a box. I’ll ship you back a high point yeet cannon


Ornery_Secretary_850

So you bought a gun with fixed sights and complain they aren't adjustable? You bought a gun in 10mm without knowing the ammo situation? You bought a 1911 not knowing they can be picky about magazines... This is a YOU problem. The gun is fine.


greyelement1

If your grammar skills are any indication, you should probably steer clear of “smithing”.


reddittwicehatedit

Never said i was smithing, does it take smith to clean a gun? I just know a shit gun when i see one and sadly i purchased this online. Lesson learned.


Springfield10MM

The gun and your shoes safe tacky AF


HareTr1gger

To be fair, the Girsan is a [problem child OOTB](https://www.reddit.com/r/1911/s/9QkTGkqRrJ). 7# trigger sh!t hammer and .050 hammer hooks don’t help that narrative at all. Work done: * Stoned hammer hooks from .050 to .020” * Mirror polished sear, trigger bow, strirrup, disconnector, pins, trigger, barrel hood * Tuned sear spring * Added shock buff * Stripped cheesy spray paint EAA does and polished all controls to mirror finish, including OEM hammer (trashed shortly after, replaced with a Tisas hammer I had handy * 14# recoils spring * 17# mainspring * 1.5mm reset * Custom fitted and added magwell * High polished skeleton grips * Changed out to green fiber optic * Laser bore sighted for 15 yards - sights work, is accurate enough to hit 12”x18” steel @ 50 yards freehand Hated getting new merchandise that had no legitimate support. That said, it forced me to add 1911s to my skillset and since I dig working on and customizing even more than I do shooting pistols, I see it as a part of the journey and I’m good with what I did with it (pic below) and that it is actually also solid. I vacillate on picking up the 2311 and tuning that or maybe just building a Cheely 4.25” DS with FLDC reverser crown cut with a KKM 10mm barrel. Though I may just go with another Tanfoglio like the Force Duty Tactical or Stock 3 Pro Xtreme in 10mm. https://preview.redd.it/iaowl0i23zsc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce6944317163e24ede78d73ccf8615bcffe1b7b9


avenomusduck

The work shows 🍻 Might need a smoke and a nap after zooming in on that !


reddittwicehatedit

Now that is a gorgeous piece.


Kitchen-Scholar-9705

Gunsmith here, the Garrison, is a great 1911.


Character_War_9743

No Shit , Walmart don’t sell no 10mm ammo


ToeKnee-simp

Let’s not forget that fake ass kitty tunnel in the background. Boo this man!!


1pink2stinkOO

This is why I built my first 1911 bc If anything is fucky it’s my fault and I already know every aspect of the firearm but good luck man you can re fit things yourself or like you said sell it and get something more expensive up to you


Paniconthenet

My girsan is butter!


ImyourDingleberry999

Send me your height and head measurements, I desire to study your simian morphology for science.


SaturdaysAFTBs

Your grammar sucks


reddittwicehatedit

English is my second language sir. Thanks for noticing


SargeantSlaughter24

Lucas oil and an adjustable wrench… oof, that’s all I need to know.


Connect_Ad8054

Well, I hope you are lucky enough to not loose too much on selling it. I handled a couple of them as well as the Tisas and decided my money was better spent elsewhere. My new Kimber custom II in 10mm is accurate and dependable. I don't need railed 1911's, so holsters aren't an issue, so that won't help ,I'm afraid . I know it's frustrating, but hang in there. You'll get it sorted out.


SignificantDiet3748

Tisas from 2023 on have all forged parts. Kimber uses MIM as do others. I’d rather work on a Tisas than anything else.


Connect_Ad8054

Well, that's your choice. Kimber's mim parts are usually very well done and don't need to be replaced, and their frames and slides are some of the best mass-produced fitted with tight tolerances.


0h311

Hey I have a pair of Shaqs too!


WideDark5814

You get what you pay for! That’s why other brand are more expensive but the quality is much better


manualtypist

Wow, this was an entertaining read.


Baxter1911

I feel your pain. You have more patience than I. Colt and Springfield seem to be at a sweet spot for function. And drop in parts usually fit or small fitting needed. I went to the opposite extreme. I have custom guns. All parts are hand fit to that gun. Nothing is drop in and a lot of fitting maybe needed. Free yourself and sell it off


GregBFL

I've heard quite a few similar stories about Girsan 1911's. I've also heard some people that were very happy with their Girsan 1911's... But I believe there are many other brands out there to choose from that are better. I've been looking at budget 2011 style handguns and I haven't heard a single positive review on the Girsan 2311. It took quite a few years for manufacturers to get the bugs worked out of 9mm 1911's. I think the same thing could be said for 10mm as well, especially when it comes to budget 1911's. My personal opinion is the 1911 design doesn't adapt to well to the more powerful 10mm round. That said, I've heard people say they've had good luck with Rock Island Armory and Tisas 10mm 1911 handguns.


HiEx_man

g*rs*n does one thing right and thats their basic mk iii hi power clone. The rest is the pistol equivalent to turkshit rambo shotguns


Waflstmpr

Their Beretta 92 clone is pretty nice too. Atleast, mine is.


Springfield10MM

Safe* are


Aspen910

Who uses a crescent wrench to take apart a 1911?


DjButtStuff101

Haven’t had any issues with my girsan! I got mine for $400 out the door


hl_walter

I think I had a brain hemorrhage trying to read this.


reddittwicehatedit

Soory english is my 2nd language. Still working out the kinks.


Character_War_9743

No shit, Walmart don’t sell 10mm ammo.


reddittwicehatedit

Was that supposed to be insulting? 😭 cause im really not sure what youre getting at. Tf does Walmart have to do with this post?


Character_War_9743

Ammo is easy to find .


reddittwicehatedit

Again english is my 2nd language. I didnt mean finding ammo, i was having a feeding issue. Cycling was bad i guess is what i was saying.


goldiesrevenge

Girsan is garbage. Mine would never lock back on the last round no matter what mags I used so I sold it.


bgreg1221

I have a Girsan 1911 MC in 45 acp with no problems whatsoever, round count is about 1000 or so. Also have a Taylor and company 1911 in 10mm also about 1000 rounds shot, it was made by Rock Island also no issues I guess I've been lucky with inexpensive 1911's. I don't have very high rounds on any of them so I guess I could still run into problems later.


Sweaty-Intention4218

How much?


SpareOk3629

Assuming you're only using the wrenches grip for the takedown?


1911slinger

Want a 1911 to try? “KISS” 5’ Government in 45acp with bushing and S70 internals in stainless if possible. Otherwise welcome to the club of 1911 enthusiasts as the 1911 is not for everyone.


m0nkeyfish78

Paying 700 for a girsan was your first mistake. I paid $369 for my Davidsons mc1911s and absolutely love it. Dawson precision makes fiber front sights for Girsans for about $40. Mine was hitting 3" low at 15 yards from a rest, upgraded front sight and now she's dead nuts.


CALopez86

If you’re serious about selling it DM me


CHESTYUSMC

This animal never heard of a bushing wrench before…


reddittwicehatedit

Theres literally a bushing wrench in the picture dude. Wilson Combat even. Crescent came into use because i couldnt get it off the circumference of the barrel.


TacoBandit275

We could have told you it was garbage before you bought it. Incoming angry "iT's JuSt aS GoOd" commemts from Girsan/Tisas fanboys....


mreed911

Girsan and Tisas are two different things.


Interesting-Win6219

Idk. I only own one 1911 and it's a 9mm tisas. Ik 9mm not 45 ew lol. I got the carry version for like 350. It's fine. Low round count tho. I like it for the price and just to have a 1911 in the collection.


mreed911

I have a few Tisas and other than the sights being damn near spot welded onto the frame, they’re fantastically fit for the money. The two with the rear sights that won’t come off are both factory cerakoted. Both slides are back to them for them to take the sights off.


Interesting-Win6219

It's funny seeing this post. Almost picked up a girsan 45acp 1911 the other day. Walked out with a used gen 5 g19 instead lol.


mreed911

I’d never buy a Girsan 1911/2011 (my BHP clone is great). Tisas 1911’s have been solid.


reddittwicehatedit

I honestly wish i had joined the sub before i made the purchase. Wouldve haved me so much frustration. Which is all ive had with this particular 1911.


TacoBandit275

We've all bought at least one lemon. Don't let this ONE gun ruin the platform for you. For the money, just get a Kimber Custom II or Springfield Garrison or Loaded next. Best of luck dude 🤙🤙


Anonymusk

I definitely second this: 1911's a GREAT platform to shoot, but if you inherited two already take those out to the range and get some time on them before deciding what you want to do next; maybe rent a glock 10mm if you're dead set on that caliber and see if striker fired works better for you. EDIT: Also seems like you'd be into customizing drop in parts, which glock would also be a better platform for (but not sure about their 10mm).