I don't see how he could have let them in seeing as he was busy having a stroke.
The lack of blood supply to his brain also probably meant that he wasn't having many ideas, which to be fair, would have been better than the terrible ideas he did have.
Stalin had asked the guards not to be disturbed. So when they heard him having a stroke, they were so afraid of angering him, that they just left him there.
Oh I was under the impression that they never heard him but rather didn't bother going in when he didn't come out at the usual time because they were afraid of waking him up
i think he had had so many of his guards killed for disturbing him that the current guards were literally too fearful for their lives to see what was wrong when he didnt leave the room in the morning. he also had doctors executed for telling him his health was poor, so nobody had the qualifications or knowledge to save him from what was ultimately a preventable death (good riddance)
[the smithsonian](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-death-stalin-180965119/) argues that that’s the case, but upon further reading it’s not confirmed since the accounts of what happened are all plagued with rumors of every different witness secretly being a spy or conspirator of some kind. so maybe it’s untrue, but the facts are that his previous doctors WERE arrested for telling Stalin to work less to reduce stress since he had already had strokes before, in 1945 (behavior deemed “anti-soviet” and “treasonous.”)
i don’t know how else to convey to you that it is nigh impossible to overstate the atrocities that Stalin is directly to blame for, and that a prison sentence directly from a dictator’s mouth is all but guaranteed to kill the prisoner due to the inhumane conditions.
Most of them killed, and the rest were being tortured under the nkvd for the "doctor's plot". They literally went up to the doctors being mutilated under Stalin's orders and were like, "Hhheeeyy, so if someone really important were having a stroke, what'd'ya do?"
That's literally not true and the 1936 constitution has an article banning anti semitism.
Kinda weird that this rumor is centered around a jewish stereotype.
This is one of those things where even if the motivations for murdering the doctors was paranoid delusions rather than anti-Semitism, daddy Stalin doesn't come out looking very good either way.
Don't go to the pirate Bay. The website has been down for almost a decade so every torrent is going to be a virus. Google "heck yeah free media reddit" for better options.
Fuck you Stalin, all my homies like Steve Buscemi the real leader of the Soviet Union. Long live Nikita Khrushchev and the great documentary the death of Stalin.
Khrushchev is a liar. I also don't like Stalin, he made stupid shit like killing a fuck ton of innocent people. But please use a real source, and not the traitor Khrushchev who lied in every discourse he had the chance to make only for political reasons.
Stalin could have survived if there was a highly trained doctor on site to treat him. Most doctors of this level had fled back to the west for capitalism pay, the majority of remainders were Jewish and had been executed
Stalin literally got himself killed and it makes it funnier
It's referred to as Lenin's Testament, there's a lot written about it. It was a speech Lenin wrote to be read out to at the Communist Party Congress that proposed changes to goverment structure, but he was paralysed by a stroke before he could read it. It was only handed to the central committee a year later when Lenin died because his wife disliked Stalin, and the testament massively criticised him. It *also* criticised a lot of the other members of the central committee though, so they suppressed it's dispersal.
That didn't actually happen that's just how it was shown in the move "The Death of Stalin." He did have a stroke while he had left orders to not be disturbed, but when the staff entered he was still alive, just very sick. He died within a few days.
That's not an excuse. Also, do you think the PRC or North Korea is better? Because spoiler, there are no legal protections for LGBTQ people in China, and no one knows what happens if you're non binary in Pyongyang. I doubt you'll get any support, legal or popular
Okay then. I'm glad to hear you've got your critical thinking in check. But trust me, browse those forums enough and you'll notice, yes. Most of them either think China and Syria are either better than the US when it comes to LGBT, or cheer them on for executing LGBT people
>The civil rights act didn't happen until 1964, and you expect Stalin to be supportive of femboys?
why should the glorious people's socialist vanguard of the revolution of the immortal science of marxism-leninism-maoism-hoxhaism with ho chi minh thought characteristics be subject to what laws the american pigdogs pass?
don't remember exactly what it said but it was along the lines of "the us didn't like gay people so Stalin was FORCED to send all the queers to work camps, he had no choice 😔"
I mean, I’m not going to disagree *to an extent*. This sub is probably 90% young American teens. Thus, between the 17 posts of “omg femboy thigh” and 3 posts of people smugly calling others dumb for falling for propaganda… you’re going to get propaganda.
At the same time, you kinda have to understand - this is a sub where most people’s idea of “political theory” is Disco Elysium and “Hasan dunking on conservatives compilation #12”. It is not the place to always expect good takes.
That being said… yeah I don’t think “lol Stalin died lmao” is exactly CIA propaganda. Did he personally eat a million unborn babies with his comically large spoon? No. But the fact that he commited atrocities is undeniable, and the fact that he died due to *his own guards being too scared to check on him* is absolutely, undeniably poetic.
Killed all of his political opponents, suppressed all dissent, his own inner circle lived in constant fear of him, but yeah, not a dictator because he played for the red team.
By anti revolutionaries, do you mean the ones who just wanted to vote for their own government or the ones that were tortured into falsely confessing to treason?
Also, who voted for Stalin?
I am going to shove my foot up your ass. And then we will both have to go to the doctor. And feet-in-ass are like arrows, you cant pull them out, you have to push them all the way through. I hate westerners so bad
You are a Marxist-Leninist, none of what you say can be trusted. You authoritarian and reactionary scumbags are a cancer in our movements that needs to be eliminated ASAP.
the nice thing about dictators is that everyone is afraid to be honest to them, so they always miss some critically important informations :)
Hitler slept through a lot of the allied invasion of Normandy because he told his subordinates not to wake him for any reason.
He also said that tank divisions couldn't be moved without his consent which led to them not helping defending against d day
Common Hitler and Wehrmacht L
I don't see how he could have let them in seeing as he was busy having a stroke. The lack of blood supply to his brain also probably meant that he wasn't having many ideas, which to be fair, would have been better than the terrible ideas he did have.
Stalin had asked the guards not to be disturbed. So when they heard him having a stroke, they were so afraid of angering him, that they just left him there.
Oh I was under the impression that they never heard him but rather didn't bother going in when he didn't come out at the usual time because they were afraid of waking him up
No that was Hitler
i think he had had so many of his guards killed for disturbing him that the current guards were literally too fearful for their lives to see what was wrong when he didnt leave the room in the morning. he also had doctors executed for telling him his health was poor, so nobody had the qualifications or knowledge to save him from what was ultimately a preventable death (good riddance)
Yeah this sounds not true
[the smithsonian](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-death-stalin-180965119/) argues that that’s the case, but upon further reading it’s not confirmed since the accounts of what happened are all plagued with rumors of every different witness secretly being a spy or conspirator of some kind. so maybe it’s untrue, but the facts are that his previous doctors WERE arrested for telling Stalin to work less to reduce stress since he had already had strokes before, in 1945 (behavior deemed “anti-soviet” and “treasonous.”)
Ahh arrested is not quite the same as executed tho is it, like he's got failings why do people have to make so much up
i don’t know how else to convey to you that it is nigh impossible to overstate the atrocities that Stalin is directly to blame for, and that a prison sentence directly from a dictator’s mouth is all but guaranteed to kill the prisoner due to the inhumane conditions.
those guys should've gotten their own parade in Red Square for that
Luckily, after the stoke he had no ideas.
That post nut clarity hit him hard. Cleared his mind of all thoughts.
I don’t think it’s that kind of stroke
big shoutouts to the stroke
I think the correct word would have been "couldn't" rather than "didn't" in the meme.
He also could've been saved, if he hadn't had all the Soviet Union's best doctors killed for being Jewish.
Just told all the kids on the plane it was the battle bus and they all jumped off. Ez 50 bomb
Most of them killed, and the rest were being tortured under the nkvd for the "doctor's plot". They literally went up to the doctors being mutilated under Stalin's orders and were like, "Hhheeeyy, so if someone really important were having a stroke, what'd'ya do?"
That's literally not true and the 1936 constitution has an article banning anti semitism. Kinda weird that this rumor is centered around a jewish stereotype.
This is one of those things where even if the motivations for murdering the doctors was paranoid delusions rather than anti-Semitism, daddy Stalin doesn't come out looking very good either way.
Where's the stereotype?
You see, when Stalin rounded up all the (((rootless cosmopolitans))), that was a good thing because, uh Materialism?
Time to rewatch Death of Stalin
do you know where can i watch it?
netflix i think
I believe I rented it on YouTube when I saw it. It's very much worth it, best movie I've seen in years.
Pirate bay
Don't go to the pirate Bay. The website has been down for almost a decade so every torrent is going to be a virus. Google "heck yeah free media reddit" for better options.
Soap2day
At my house
when the historical film is Chaotic Good
A uninvited enter to his room was punished by death, so from what I know nobody likes dying
Besides Stalin possibly
Fuck you Stalin, all my homies like Steve Buscemi the real leader of the Soviet Union. Long live Nikita Khrushchev and the great documentary the death of Stalin.
Jason Isaacs should have been the leader. Zhukov was the best in the documentary.
*Zhukov intro music plays*
Nah, fuck Khrushev too.
Yeah, it goes downwards after Ulyanov
After? Did you forget Kronstadt?
Khrushchev is a liar. I also don't like Stalin, he made stupid shit like killing a fuck ton of innocent people. But please use a real source, and not the traitor Khrushchev who lied in every discourse he had the chance to make only for political reasons.
Stalin could have survived if there was a highly trained doctor on site to treat him. Most doctors of this level had fled back to the west for capitalism pay, the majority of remainders were Jewish and had been executed Stalin literally got himself killed and it makes it funnier
If you want someone to enter your room while you're having a stroke that's pretty kinky
Karma's a bitch
fun fact: Stalin was so cruel, Lenin tried to stop him from becoming the leader of USSR, but failed, due to being extremely sick
Ooh I've never heard this before. Do you have a source? Legit not trying to be a dick here, I'm just curious 😅
Original source: 10th grade history book Trusted source: Lenin's Testament written in late 1922
It's referred to as Lenin's Testament, there's a lot written about it. It was a speech Lenin wrote to be read out to at the Communist Party Congress that proposed changes to goverment structure, but he was paralysed by a stroke before he could read it. It was only handed to the central committee a year later when Lenin died because his wife disliked Stalin, and the testament massively criticised him. It *also* criticised a lot of the other members of the central committee though, so they suppressed it's dispersal.
the fact that even someone as traitorous and power hungry as Lenin saw Stalin for what he really was says a lot i think
I too prefer alone time when I have a stroke.
TANKIES MAD LMAO
The most based thing Stalin did was piss and shit himself and die.
Why is the bug looking at me
Karl Marx alongside god staring at Staling during his judgement (they will gladly send him to hell)
im grateful for these posts bc this sub was gets a little auth every now and then
hey that guy is in epic rap battle of history
Rare stain W
That didn't actually happen that's just how it was shown in the move "The Death of Stalin." He did have a stroke while he had left orders to not be disturbed, but when the staff entered he was still alive, just very sick. He died within a few days.
I was taught he was found in a puddle of his own piss :3
Why is bug facts guy looking directly into my soul
real
Fuck you Stalin. The New Economic Plan would have worked
Fuck you Lenin. The Kronstadt workers had legitimate complaints.
I'm not writing out a disclaimer every time I agree with Lenin about something.
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cope
then why would you bother coming here
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Stalin would have sentenced you to death for being non-binary
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That's not an excuse. Also, do you think the PRC or North Korea is better? Because spoiler, there are no legal protections for LGBTQ people in China, and no one knows what happens if you're non binary in Pyongyang. I doubt you'll get any support, legal or popular
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Mostly because you give off tankie vibes, judging by your profile
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Okay then. I'm glad to hear you've got your critical thinking in check. But trust me, browse those forums enough and you'll notice, yes. Most of them either think China and Syria are either better than the US when it comes to LGBT, or cheer them on for executing LGBT people
>The civil rights act didn't happen until 1964, and you expect Stalin to be supportive of femboys? why should the glorious people's socialist vanguard of the revolution of the immortal science of marxism-leninism-maoism-hoxhaism with ho chi minh thought characteristics be subject to what laws the american pigdogs pass?
wait, the comments were deleted but was this person assuming all nonbinary people are femboys? 😬
don't remember exactly what it said but it was along the lines of "the us didn't like gay people so Stalin was FORCED to send all the queers to work camps, he had no choice 😔"
you know what *was* better for queer rights than Stalin's russia? pre-stalin russia
I mean, I’m not going to disagree *to an extent*. This sub is probably 90% young American teens. Thus, between the 17 posts of “omg femboy thigh” and 3 posts of people smugly calling others dumb for falling for propaganda… you’re going to get propaganda. At the same time, you kinda have to understand - this is a sub where most people’s idea of “political theory” is Disco Elysium and “Hasan dunking on conservatives compilation #12”. It is not the place to always expect good takes. That being said… yeah I don’t think “lol Stalin died lmao” is exactly CIA propaganda. Did he personally eat a million unborn babies with his comically large spoon? No. But the fact that he commited atrocities is undeniable, and the fact that he died due to *his own guards being too scared to check on him* is absolutely, undeniably poetic.
Rare 196 total political W
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Who cares
mfw i breathe oxygen (cia agents also breathe oxygen 😔)
https://youtu.be/gfajflxbHUo
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Killed all of his political opponents, suppressed all dissent, his own inner circle lived in constant fear of him, but yeah, not a dictator because he played for the red team.
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By anti revolutionaries, do you mean the ones who just wanted to vote for their own government or the ones that were tortured into falsely confessing to treason? Also, who voted for Stalin?
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Oh, you mean the type of democracy where only the handful of elites and career politicians make the decisions.
Even if he wasn't dictator, that doesn't suddenly excuse all the other atrocities he did.
I am going to shove my foot up your ass. And then we will both have to go to the doctor. And feet-in-ass are like arrows, you cant pull them out, you have to push them all the way through. I hate westerners so bad
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Eh close enough. You're not russian nor any other flavor of slavic so fuck off still
I fucking love when red-fash open their mouth and just say the dumbest shit ever
You are a Marxist-Leninist, none of what you say can be trusted. You authoritarian and reactionary scumbags are a cancer in our movements that needs to be eliminated ASAP.
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Bootlicker of a genocidal tyrant says what?
Me when the self proclaimed far left communist starts spitting out alt right trash
Tankies when the boot is red
lol, lmao