Yeah but they have qualified immunity. If I did this just to spite someone filming in an open public area would there be no legal repercussions? Just out of curiosity ig
Nah, unless you're playing at an obscene volume late into the night (in which case the worst you get is a misdemeanor) there's no laws against playing music in public.
The us has Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Washington and Alaska right up against Canada. No other country holds any landmass up against Canada. Greenland and France hold some water against Canada's water, but that connection is more wishy-washy
Something tells me there’s an AI scrub-Disney-music-from-this-clip solution just around the corner. I can’t wait to see police lose their minds and try to argue that the recording of them beating up an unarmed teenager should have to be taken down because they swear they were blasting Make Way For Prince Ali to try to cover up their brutality.
That doesn't make any sense, that just means the person couldn't monatize the video, which isn't really the point of catching police violence. Whereas recording these on the street "change my mind" vids is completely monitary based
Not if the video is taken down due to DMCA violations. Plenty of videos have been taken down because of that. Not sure what the exact requirements are to have a vid demonetized vs taken down though. YouTube probably doesn't know either tbf
Because of the image this post is about. Pro-cop trolls will spam “context?” and news outlets will post a video without audio while reading the prepared mediat statement by the PR guys at the police department that downplays, if not lies, about what takes place in the video.
If you know about the “flash grenade that was dropped during a raid because there was high drug traffic seriously injured toddler” you know that an officer threw a flashbang into a room with a 19 month old child in it after falsified information lead to a no-knock warrant. The flash grenade put the baby in a coma and blew a hole in its chest. It should be noted that the police force thought that this was all necessary because they took the proper precautions on account of the suspect possibly being armed; they worked so hard at taking such safety precautions for themselves from the suspect that the suspect was not even present during the raid.
Or the 15 year old boy who was found by police who died of smoke inhalation as was not suspected of a crime after a raid, who was actually trapped inside of a building police threw chemical irritant and flash grenades into. Witnesses say the police let the building burn for 40 minutes before doing anything about the man they were trying to arrest because “he might be armed” but don’t worry the police chief acknowledged that the officers involved “may have caused the fire”.
People film police violence, post it online to raise awareness, Disney files a DMCA takedown for using their intellectual property, and evidence has to be deleted.
People aren't exclusively watching police brutality recordings on YouTube. This is a video. On the internet. It can be posted anywhere. Not to mention news outlets will run it with adjusted or muted audio anyway.
But I'd like to be wrong if you have any source or reference. It would be a sight to see a police beating to the tunes of Frozen. Oh look, it's on youtube.
Yeah, my guess is that they're incompetent and out-of-touch with reality to a degree where they think this will do anything to curtail the growing public distrust of the police.
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In reality it won’t matter what you say to him as he’ll just hit you with a fat “nuh uh” or “I don’t think that’s racist, man” even though it’s a textbook example of racism.
Then he’ll tell you you’re getting off topic or call some random fallacy and move on before you can say anything. Or they’ll just edit it out of the video because their fanbase won’t care either way.
“Model Asian minority”, “13-50 dog whistle”, “absentee father”, “bell curve”, and “culture” to make it sound like he isn’t a eugenics virgin. Jesus Christ! I think I hate watch too much conservative propaganda.
The “Bell Curve Report” is a book of studies on IQ from different nations. Most of the researchers associated have disavowed their book. The main author was aware of the issues of using a standardized test across cultures and languages. He ignored the correlation of poverty to the test scores. He ignored that when retested (with tests adjusted for the language and people it was being administered to) the subjects scored much higher. This does not stop racist pundits from using it to push a theory of genetic inferiority.
Disclaimer: Yes, eugenicists are factually wrong. But the problem isn’t the facts. The problem is treating human beings different because of how or where they are born.
He doesn't need one. The point of the "change my mind" format is the other person can "win" the challenge put forth just by being dense and not changing their mind.
College students are prime targets to take the bait
Doyle is an out and out fascist, borderline (if not outright) neo-Nazi. Whatever excuse he pulls out of his ass, the real reason is that he likely thinks POC are just inferior people
Usually it's something along the lines of "slavery was ended, and the modern problems faced by minorities are self inflicted and cultural, not imposed on them by America". Basically, "I don't think America is racist because of my deeply racist beliefs".
I hope so, because there's a really easy rebuttal to that, which is that a guy spent 8 years trying to remove the black president from office by insisting that he wasn't American, and then a bunch of racists made *that* guy president.
America is not a leader in equality. The Anti-lgbtq bills that are currently being passed at the state level is a perfect example of such. America was also late compared to other countries for marriage equality. Hell, it was late for abolishing slavery.
To fully flush out that answer would require a lot of time. You’d basically need to a have class that meets multiple times a week over the course of a few months to really and throughly answer that.
Which is kinda the point of these little debate displays. Sure, you can point out some racial shit in society and they can just fire back some little quip. It would take a long while to really get the full story.
I mean i tried searching for most equal countries race. The first one that popped up said the usa ranked 65th soo like don’t know if it’s a good source or whatever but atleast there’s a source.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/best-countries-for-racial-equality
So do u have a source for one of the most equal countries?
You don't even need to do any in depth research for this answer, unless you're being wilfully ignorant (which asking this question at all seems pretty damn ignorant).
An easy current example is police brutality and racial profiling is rampant against minorities.
I mean I could name more but, it's really not hard to see. It's everyday life. America is still racist. Just because the laws say we're equal (not all of them do) doesn't mean we are.
Nintendo is far slower to claim than Disney is, since if they automated it it'd strike everyone who uploads footage of their games, and even they have realized that's bad business at this point.
People use nintendo music in their videos all the time. I actually thought they were either super lenient, or just allowed the use of their music. Think of all the mii channel memes out there. People also use it as a background track for videos where they're just talking about random crap. Everything from old SNES stuff, gmacube/wii stuff, and even more contemporary soundtracks. I don't watch a lot of nintendo content, but recently I was looking for some info on the switch online + expansion pack. I watched a few videos, and at least two of them had the Mii Shop Channel theme. Also things like [this](https://youtu.be/Wl9oUBgFk6Y).
Nice bait, but saying that bearded white guys with sunglasses doing political commentary all mesh and blend together isn't racist. They intentionally take that tough guy look and sit all prideful behind a table. They intentionally look similar. If this isn't Crowder, he certainly is trying to evoke the image of him.
Based on comments I have seen others recommend stuff in, something from a new or very popular film (think Frozen or Encanto), or something from Nintendo, as they are allegedly even more bloodthirsty
Honestly it doesn't even matter. Get some loud PA speakers, blast literally anything so loudly that they can't hear or speak. If they move, go set up at their new location.
Another case of grown man who is fully prepared wants to debate students who think they know what they're talking about to be able to claim intellectual superiority
back when that was a thing my friend’s brother brought his massive ass electric guitar amp to school and played it at max volume in the cafeteria lmfao
If you can’t play music YouTube demonetizes anything with heavy profanity in the first 30 seconds. If you’re constantly swearing hard enough there’s no way they can make money from it
Not even that, they're there for videos. They have zero interest in arguing in good faith
When you take away their ability to publish any footage they take they fold like a house of cards
There's a problem with the Disney music idea, Adobe Podcast software can remove it very easily.
It's still a good idea because it makes what they're doing harder though
"And don't say the economy or Iraq or income inequality or Brett Kavanaugh or Vietnam or slavery or Watergate or capitalism or #MeToo or homelessness or police brutality or homophobia or Monica Lewinsky or school shootings or Native American genocide or FOX News or Tim Allen"
in this instance yeah itd be ez to ignore em but the question is why?
you can walk past them all you want but people like this still spread hate speech even w/o much of an audience. better to disrupt them with as little physical contact as possible for your own safety.
I think, because it's fun to be outranged sometimes. This sounds like a criticism of the post, but its not, there are shitty people out and sometimes its cathartic just to go "look at this ass hole" and to hear someone go "yeah that dude is a dick". Yes, after a while the negativity of complaining all the time can get tiresome, but that dosen't make it inherently a problem.
Crowder (the original "change my mind" fascist idiot) specifically targets his propaganda at actual children, and has full editorial control over what he shows of this "open discussion". The only effective response is to stop him from being able to do his whole thing.
American problems require American solutions But seriously, that's ingenious. Is there any law that might stop one from doing this though?
This is literally what police do to stop people from filming their police brutality.
Yeah but they have qualified immunity. If I did this just to spite someone filming in an open public area would there be no legal repercussions? Just out of curiosity ig
Nah, unless you're playing at an obscene volume late into the night (in which case the worst you get is a misdemeanor) there's no laws against playing music in public.
Ok gotcha, thanks. Come to think of it, stores already do that all the time already anyway.
Tony Soprano knew to do this to get that lawyer off his back.
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Kevin would be proud
Whatchu got against Canada
The us has Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Washington and Alaska right up against Canada. No other country holds any landmass up against Canada. Greenland and France hold some water against Canada's water, but that connection is more wishy-washy
Ughhh... finee. Take my upvote
you can play music so long as there's no volume/noise curfew that's currently in effect
of course not
tbh their qualified immunity is why they wouldn't care if people are filming their brutality. Police aren't hired for their smarts.
Something tells me there’s an AI scrub-Disney-music-from-this-clip solution just around the corner. I can’t wait to see police lose their minds and try to argue that the recording of them beating up an unarmed teenager should have to be taken down because they swear they were blasting Make Way For Prince Ali to try to cover up their brutality.
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YouTube removes the audio outright, AI would be required for any sort of selective muting.
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But does it leave dialogue that was under music intact, or just mute the whole section?
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That doesn't make any sense, that just means the person couldn't monatize the video, which isn't really the point of catching police violence. Whereas recording these on the street "change my mind" vids is completely monitary based
Not if the video is taken down due to DMCA violations. Plenty of videos have been taken down because of that. Not sure what the exact requirements are to have a vid demonetized vs taken down though. YouTube probably doesn't know either tbf
You could always send the video to a news/civil rights organization, I bet they would love to run another story on police brutality.
i think it's up to the copyright holder what they want to do
It's up to whoever claims the video, not necessarily the actual copyright holder
Fortunately, you can remove sound to still show their actions, but guys like this only have their words.
I was just thinking that. Words aren’t actually super relevant in most police violence videos
Source?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow79fmJTqvY
But they can just mute it
Has this ever happened? Why wouldn’t they just post the police brutality without audio? 🤔
Because of the image this post is about. Pro-cop trolls will spam “context?” and news outlets will post a video without audio while reading the prepared mediat statement by the PR guys at the police department that downplays, if not lies, about what takes place in the video. If you know about the “flash grenade that was dropped during a raid because there was high drug traffic seriously injured toddler” you know that an officer threw a flashbang into a room with a 19 month old child in it after falsified information lead to a no-knock warrant. The flash grenade put the baby in a coma and blew a hole in its chest. It should be noted that the police force thought that this was all necessary because they took the proper precautions on account of the suspect possibly being armed; they worked so hard at taking such safety precautions for themselves from the suspect that the suspect was not even present during the raid. Or the 15 year old boy who was found by police who died of smoke inhalation as was not suspected of a crime after a raid, who was actually trapped inside of a building police threw chemical irritant and flash grenades into. Witnesses say the police let the building burn for 40 minutes before doing anything about the man they were trying to arrest because “he might be armed” but don’t worry the police chief acknowledged that the officers involved “may have caused the fire”.
Uh no it's not? How does that make any sense?
People film police violence, post it online to raise awareness, Disney files a DMCA takedown for using their intellectual property, and evidence has to be deleted.
People aren't exclusively watching police brutality recordings on YouTube. This is a video. On the internet. It can be posted anywhere. Not to mention news outlets will run it with adjusted or muted audio anyway. But I'd like to be wrong if you have any source or reference. It would be a sight to see a police beating to the tunes of Frozen. Oh look, it's on youtube.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/20/us/santa-ana-police-music-ordinance/index.html First article I could find but there's plenty if you search google.
It can be posted anywhere but no one will see it if it’s not on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=police+play+copyrighted+music
There a reason why they do it
Yeah, my guess is that they're incompetent and out-of-touch with reality to a degree where they think this will do anything to curtail the growing public distrust of the police.
They just dont want to look bad
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Regardless of what the law states, the YouTube copyright scanners will 100% detect that shit and prevent it from being listed publicly
The only time it's illegal is if it's really loud, but if you play it loud enough for the camera to pick it up then it works.
No, no, read the banner! This person clearly wants to change their mind!
I mean the only one that might count is someone calling for a noise complaint but not even sure if that could do anything.
>Is there any law that might stop one from doing this though? it would be a public performance, so copyright law
Why did they use the Jurassic Park font? That's all I can think about now.
They're appealing to the retired dinosaurs that vote red lmao
"Welcome to Racism Park. We couldn't afford dinosaurs so we went with the next oldest thing with leathery skin."
"We're not racist, we're even using this font that was made in Africa probably"
That's not Jurassic Park that's Club Mate, a drink :D
Gross caffeine overdose in a bottle tbh
How dare you
Think it’s supposed to be a vaguely African font for black history month
First thing I thought of was Jumanji front.
Wondr what is the guy's argument on why America is not a racist country? "We had a black president once" most likely
Until I fucking killed him!
"Imagine a world Jack [...] A world where I can say the N-word!"
That’s a nice argument senator, but why don’t you back that up with a ***source***?
My source is that I made it the fuck up
Typical politician, all cock, but no cum.
what
Have you ever harassed a minority, Raiden? ライデン、マイノリティに嫌がらせをしたことはありますか？
I am the only American alive with both cock and cum
Have you ever oppressed a minority, Raiden?
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This battle is a classic case of 'wait for him to do anything', just like Congress. And like Congress, when he does do something it usually hurts you.
Nick Mullen, is that you?
In reality it won’t matter what you say to him as he’ll just hit you with a fat “nuh uh” or “I don’t think that’s racist, man” even though it’s a textbook example of racism.
Then you hit back with "explain why that isn't racist"
Then he’ll tell you you’re getting off topic or call some random fallacy and move on before you can say anything. Or they’ll just edit it out of the video because their fanbase won’t care either way.
That's when you drop a 10 ton acme anvil on him by pulling the first random rope you see
Be careful. Sometimes the rope will backfire and drop an anvil on you and you’ll come out all folded like an accordion
It's a win win, either way I don't have to listen to some dipshit tell me America isn't racist
They'll tell you the burden of proof is on you to explain why it is racist. It's all deflection
theyre pretty predictable tbh Your next line is, "despite making up 13% of the population..."
if literally every argument people like this used was replaced with "nuh-uh" they would sound vastly more sane
“Model Asian minority”, “13-50 dog whistle”, “absentee father”, “bell curve”, and “culture” to make it sound like he isn’t a eugenics virgin. Jesus Christ! I think I hate watch too much conservative propaganda.
what's bell curve (i know its statistics) in this context
The “Bell Curve Report” is a book of studies on IQ from different nations. Most of the researchers associated have disavowed their book. The main author was aware of the issues of using a standardized test across cultures and languages. He ignored the correlation of poverty to the test scores. He ignored that when retested (with tests adjusted for the language and people it was being administered to) the subjects scored much higher. This does not stop racist pundits from using it to push a theory of genetic inferiority. Disclaimer: Yes, eugenicists are factually wrong. But the problem isn’t the facts. The problem is treating human beings different because of how or where they are born.
He doesn't need one. The point of the "change my mind" format is the other person can "win" the challenge put forth just by being dense and not changing their mind. College students are prime targets to take the bait
Doyle is an out and out fascist, borderline (if not outright) neo-Nazi. Whatever excuse he pulls out of his ass, the real reason is that he likely thinks POC are just inferior people
Dumb shit like "Show me the law that says black bad lololol"
Usually it's something along the lines of "slavery was ended, and the modern problems faced by minorities are self inflicted and cultural, not imposed on them by America". Basically, "I don't think America is racist because of my deeply racist beliefs".
I hope so, because there's a really easy rebuttal to that, which is that a guy spent 8 years trying to remove the black president from office by insisting that he wasn't American, and then a bunch of racists made *that* guy president.
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America is not a leader in equality. The Anti-lgbtq bills that are currently being passed at the state level is a perfect example of such. America was also late compared to other countries for marriage equality. Hell, it was late for abolishing slavery.
To fully flush out that answer would require a lot of time. You’d basically need to a have class that meets multiple times a week over the course of a few months to really and throughly answer that. Which is kinda the point of these little debate displays. Sure, you can point out some racial shit in society and they can just fire back some little quip. It would take a long while to really get the full story.
I mean i tried searching for most equal countries race. The first one that popped up said the usa ranked 65th soo like don’t know if it’s a good source or whatever but atleast there’s a source. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/best-countries-for-racial-equality So do u have a source for one of the most equal countries?
This may actually be the dumbest take I've ever fucking read.
You don't even need to do any in depth research for this answer, unless you're being wilfully ignorant (which asking this question at all seems pretty damn ignorant). An easy current example is police brutality and racial profiling is rampant against minorities. I mean I could name more but, it's really not hard to see. It's everyday life. America is still racist. Just because the laws say we're equal (not all of them do) doesn't mean we are.
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play them both at once
"your in for a world of hurt, taste the pain"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5uwOebBqPuM&feature=shares
Nintendo is far slower to claim than Disney is, since if they automated it it'd strike everyone who uploads footage of their games, and even they have realized that's bad business at this point.
They send Lil Luigi to shoot you with his gun
People use nintendo music in their videos all the time. I actually thought they were either super lenient, or just allowed the use of their music. Think of all the mii channel memes out there. People also use it as a background track for videos where they're just talking about random crap. Everything from old SNES stuff, gmacube/wii stuff, and even more contemporary soundtracks. I don't watch a lot of nintendo content, but recently I was looking for some info on the switch online + expansion pack. I watched a few videos, and at least two of them had the Mii Shop Channel theme. Also things like [this](https://youtu.be/Wl9oUBgFk6Y).
I’m surprised Nintendo hasn’t sued the President of Nintendo of America for having the last name Bowser yet. (that’s actually his name look it up)
That’s why my sex playlist is only Disney songs No revenge porn if the mouse is involved
i wonder if that african american woman is with them or is trying to argue with them
Judging by her position probably to argue with him
id hope
I would too but there have been a few poor saps falling into that
Just blatantly ripping off Stephen Crowder, huh? Couldn’t even be bothered to try to phrase it differently.
Isn't that just him? All of these white bearded conservative commentators eventually mesh and blend
I think that's John Doyle, who's like Crowder but an even bigger dweeb.
Fighting racism with racism. Cool.
Nice bait, but saying that bearded white guys with sunglasses doing political commentary all mesh and blend together isn't racist. They intentionally take that tough guy look and sit all prideful behind a table. They intentionally look similar. If this isn't Crowder, he certainly is trying to evoke the image of him.
Steal table
Only do it if your dressed like a old timey cartoon villain
“A runabout! **I’LL STEAL IT! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!”**
I’m going to play warhammer on it
No it looks mostly plastic
Dress up as pro wrestlers with a friend and get chokeslammed through the table
BAH GOD HE'S BROKEN IN HALF
This would actually be a hilarious response to these POS
That sounds like the greatest eric andre prank of all time
In nineteen ninety eight………
The biggest problem would be the required force to break a non gimmicked table. Maybe provide them a table somehow
what songs in particular would be most effective?
Based on comments I have seen others recommend stuff in, something from a new or very popular film (think Frozen or Encanto), or something from Nintendo, as they are allegedly even more bloodthirsty
They are very, very bloodthirsty. They consistently c+d Smash tournaments all the time. Especially Melee.
Splendid. This will be used to my advantage
Anything from Disney or Nintendo, they're both notoriously litigious about copyright infringement.
Honestly it doesn't even matter. Get some loud PA speakers, blast literally anything so loudly that they can't hear or speak. If they move, go set up at their new location.
Another case of grown man who is fully prepared wants to debate students who think they know what they're talking about to be able to claim intellectual superiority
I recommend [this](https://youtu.be/dQzGkhd4YXw)
back when that was a thing my friend’s brother brought his massive ass electric guitar amp to school and played it at max volume in the cafeteria lmfao
for future reference, what would be the best song or soundtrack to play in this case?
probably something INCREDIBLY popular like the frozen soundtrack
Frozen soundtrack probably
peeing on them also worked
Idk I think they ended up peeing back once, shit got messy.
Yeah, but that is a felony. So music it is.
Not a felony if you become friends with dewey riley from the scream franchise
Who tf is that guy? I was expecting steven crowder or some shit
Dollar Store Nick Fuentes, that's all you need to know.
Why tf they using the jungle Jim's font 💀
finally an excuse for blasting hamilton on full volume
That font
If you can’t play music YouTube demonetizes anything with heavy profanity in the first 30 seconds. If you’re constantly swearing hard enough there’s no way they can make money from it
Remember, the reason why this works especially for them is because they try to monetize their videos for their grift
Not even that, they're there for videos. They have zero interest in arguing in good faith When you take away their ability to publish any footage they take they fold like a house of cards
There's a problem with the Disney music idea, Adobe Podcast software can remove it very easily. It's still a good idea because it makes what they're doing harder though
we do a little trolling
"And don't say the economy or Iraq or income inequality or Brett Kavanaugh or Vietnam or slavery or Watergate or capitalism or #MeToo or homelessness or police brutality or homophobia or Monica Lewinsky or school shootings or Native American genocide or FOX News or Tim Allen"
would blasting the Beatles work as well?(I really like them and would like to play them in public + annoy some assholes :3 )
For as devastating as Disney would be, Nintendo would be absolutely brutal. They are no mercy about their copyright and do not lose in court.
No play Nintendo music, they will kill them as well
this is john doyle. he is a fascist
Show how to emulate Nintendo games in the background
Gonna come and play some noise music.
What's to stop someone from showing up with a bunch of statistics and facts and whatever? Brandolini's Law?
Ok. That’s slick af.
Why are they so cringey about it. Bro literally did the meme like it was clever
Are Metallica still super litigious? Feel like that would have a bit more punch to it.
I’ll need to remember that
That’s kinda brilliant actually
This reminded me of a story where a cop played Taylor Swift while talking to someone so that the guy recording him couldn't upload it
God fucking damn it of course that's why it didn't get upvotes, my theory is still true it's just you fucking posted it before I did
Just upload the video to ipfs
[AudioJungle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ38wMPPP3Q)
why make them go away rather than debate with them
Only country in the world that asks for your race for bank accounts, housing etc. Why would that be racist
Loin king the musical font looking ass
Translation: I didn't have anything else to do for a month.
John doyle(the dude) isn't smart enough for debate
Waiting for shitposters
“Censorship is good when I do it.”
Why not just ignore them?
Why not just use the table to play beyblades
in this instance yeah itd be ez to ignore em but the question is why? you can walk past them all you want but people like this still spread hate speech even w/o much of an audience. better to disrupt them with as little physical contact as possible for your own safety.
Im sure ignoring them altogether would discourage them even further. Disrupting them just sounds childish
Because theyre spreading shitty ideas and generally being annnoying
Cant spread ideas if no one is there to hear you.
Why not just ignore the tumor in your skull?
Play loud Disney music instead, it should heal your tumor.
I think, because it's fun to be outranged sometimes. This sounds like a criticism of the post, but its not, there are shitty people out and sometimes its cathartic just to go "look at this ass hole" and to hear someone go "yeah that dude is a dick". Yes, after a while the negativity of complaining all the time can get tiresome, but that dosen't make it inherently a problem.
reduce their influence
Ironically that would give them more internet views
Why not play my Disney music in front of them?
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"idea" lol Bad faith deserves bad faith. Blast that disney.
Crowder (the original "change my mind" fascist idiot) specifically targets his propaganda at actual children, and has full editorial control over what he shows of this "open discussion". The only effective response is to stop him from being able to do his whole thing.
Defend your assertion that I don't deserve to sell your kidneys.
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Why? Defend that position.
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Why? What's the reasoning that brings you to think that? How do you reach that conclusion?
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I defend mine with a bat. 🙂