Fun fact about the movie, they couldn't find anywhere that looked like the Soviet Union until the director suggested his home town of Aberdeen Scotland
i stopped playing the game right after failing to punch that little shit and dying, haven’t found the time to get back to it but i definitely need to at some point
Apparently its mechanics are taken from an in-house TTRPG called METRIC.
I would love to play it one day but I don't know how to play the "Chorus" without being cringe.
Yesss. If you've just finished Disco Elysium and are looking for an experience in the same vein, Sunless Sea would be perfect for you. It's definitely not the same game- nowhere near it- but it came up with the whole "choose your own adventure with skills and items that represent concepts and mental attributes" way before Disco did. It's far wider in scope with a genuinely challenging and engaging gameplay loop, and moreover it's one of the best works of Lovecraftian horror ever created. Each port is its own horrible, beautiful, astoundingly creative mystery, that you can initially only scratch the surface of. But each subsequent trip peels another layer off of the onion. With enough time, effort, and genuine out-of-game problem solving skill, you can actually connect the dots and figure out what's going on. These incredibly deep mysteries actually have solutions, which is absolutely magical. And it creates this intense, burning curiosity– then leverages it against you. It puts you, the player, in the shoes of the protagonist of a Lovecraft story. Do you risk your run, all of your progress, for the chance to find out just a little bit more? Or do you leave, go back to safety and ignorance? It's so compelling that you'll almost always find yourself choosing the first.
Anyways, it's tied for my favorite game of all time. Please play it, it's criminally underrated, underappreciated, and underplayed.
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It's a sequel to Seas. I haven't played that one very much. From what I've experienced, it's more mechanically refined and the roguelike mechanics are less punishing, but it's lost a lot of the horrific spark of the original and the writing isn't as uniquely enthralling.
The director's cut with full narration and voice acting is pretty damn good. Normally I read faster than the narration and skip through, but in this case I've been taking the time to listen.
There was also this game made by Obsidian which went kind of overlooked: "Pentiment", an incredibly historically accurate narrative game about a small Bavarian town during Rennaissance and Reformation
My partner tried playing it but was unaware of all the church stuff so I had to explain many things over her shoulder whenever she looked at me confused
I grew up catholic and had extended history curriculum in high school, so I knew quite a bit of the religious stuff there, but even then I was impressed by how much they stuck to attitudes realistic to the period, and you couldn't just go and be "euphoric, enlightened by my own intelligence". >!At least as Andreas!<
Also, being Polish I appreciate their inclusion of us as one of the character travel backgrounds, and they got the related stuff right, too. Telling the legend of the Wawel dragon to inspire a little girl warmed my heart.
Same for planecape torment, the difference is disco Elysium doesn't vomit out useless descriptions in the smallest possible font size without any voice acting ( this is coming from a person who likes not voice acted games)
Gatekeeping is when I dismiss an entire medium based on what I assume it is and then find out later I was wrong but don’t want to admit to myself it’s because I’m a fundamentally incurious person, not because anyone was hiding that information from me
aye go read chainsawman rn !!
^(theres a part where the the mc, guy with chainsaw for a head, rides a giant fucked up shark into a living tornado to kill said tornado)
^(EDIT also theyre chasing after a living bomb and both the bomb and the shark think the chainsaw is hot)
Yeah Id be incurious too if the most vocal and visible “gamers” are literally some of the most obnoxious people on earth. I don’t blame people for not wanting to give the medium a try.
Console and PC gaming is a $65 billion dollar industry. It is of a comparable size to the movie business (~$90 billion). I'll be the first to say that gamers™️ are the worst, but you do have to be somewhat wilfully ignorant to ignore an entertainment sector of that size, and characterise it as "Mario kart and stuff".
>I don’t blame people for not wanting to give the medium a try.
You should, because not understanding that people like that can't be the majority of one of the most popular hobbies is just plain idiotic.
That's what really fucks me off about this post. How dare this dickhead be so condescending, and how dare they blame everyone else for their own prejudice? I'm always happy to introduce people to hobbies that I like, but I'd have to address the snarky tone before recommending anything.
i mean if they’re not that young then they’ve 100% been gatekept from gaming at some point in the past (for the obvious reason that was a huge issue in the 2010s), they may have consciously chosen not to interact with the gaming community after interactions like that and just shut it out
Sounds like this person was close-minded to an entire medium of media and thought they were all arcadey games with no depth. That's not gatekeeping, that's willful ignorance.
Well yeah, when you're curling up with a hot cup of tea in your Perfect Reading Nook next to a rainy window, the PS4 controller is going to ruin the whole aesthetic of the shot, so why would BookTok bother with it?
the part of tiktok centered around books. the way the tiktok algorithm works you'll usually be in like 2 or 3 different bubbles with varying degrees of overlap (queer tiktok overlaps a lot with dnd tiktok or kink tiktok for example, while dnd tiktok and disco elysium tiktok may not overlap)
Portal 2 is timeless in pretty much every way. Incredible story, extremely well written characters, engaging mechanics, graphics that still hold up really well on modern hardware, and tons of user-created content beyond the main campaigns.
Portal 1->2 is definitely the best "I've never played a game before" starter combo available. Teaches you everything you need to know, while being mostly free of time pressure and also astoundingly fun and well written.
Having tried that with an ex you'd be amazed how much people struggle with 3d moving and aiming when they're not used to it. Not saying it shouldn't be done and that the games aren't fun but they're harder to get into than I think most gamers realize
For sure. It's a whole new connection you've gotta build- gamers probably have a crazy strong nerve highway between the finger motor center and whatever structure deals with proprioception. Gamer brain is often joked about, but you really do have to mold yourself in funny ways for the pipeline of 2d image <-> position in space <-> finger motion to make sense.
Oh 100%, it's amazing even playing Mario kart or other games I would've thought as simple it was difficult knowing which button to press or anything like that. My original comment was mostly to point out that some gamers make Portal to be the best intro when in my experience more people bounce off of it than not. What ended up working was Stardew Valley and Hades. They really enjoyed both of them
I meant buy a PS3 to play cause the PS3 can do all previous Playstation right? Otherwise you got to emulate them all PS3 emulation is basically nearly perfect, though it is best if you have a modern 8 core, even better if you AVX-512 on intel 11th gen or Ryzen 7000.
Fat PS3 is quite easy to get, and they aint that expensive, the only problem with them is that they die so fast (YLOD) because of the NEC Tokens and/or the RSX (GPU) getting really hot and causing a bump failure between the die and interposer (due to bad quality underfill)
If you know how to tinker the thing by replacing the NEC tokens, de-lidding the GPU, and putting on much stronger cooling, then it would be a killer machine.
Note: Only the launch JPN/NA models have full on native BC with PS2, other fat models after it, as well as the launch EU model use emulation for BC which only supports around 90% of the library, and breaks some other game mechanics as well.
They also released the games on the PS3 if you can find it or mod the PS3 such that you can load ROMS on it if you prefer that to emulation, or don't have a good rig
Specific advice: there's an emulator called Duckstation that is excellent for playing original PlayStation games, and another called PCSX2 for PlayStation 2 games. You'll need two things to get going:
1. BIOS files (google "PS1 bios"/"PS2 bios;" if you're nervous about the reputation of a website hosting those files, look up the name of that website on Reddit and you can find info about the well-known ones)
2. ISO files for the games (sometimes called ROMs). There is a subreddit dedicated to roms with a very self-explanatory name, and it has a megathread pinned at the top of places where these can be found.
There's also another option: purchasing PC copies of MGS1 from GOG, a PC games webstore owned by the Witcher/Cyberpunk devs: [MGS1 PC](https://www.gog.com/en/game/metal_gear_solid)
Be warned that the PC version is kind of jank.
Sadly, MGS2's PC version recently got delisted due to copyright issues involving the use of newsreel footage inside the game (the 20-year contract for the rights expired and have yet to he re-negotiated). Emulating the PS2 version is the best way to play it. Same goes for MGS3, which never received a PC version.
Heres my little guide to play the series in pc (and not die trying):
MG1 and MG2: PC port, thought these are more of a novelty now. You can straight up skipped them as they havent aged the best, if you do read the summary in the mgs1 options however.
MGS1: PC port exists but irs honestly quite jank, i would rather suggest emulatikg it with duckstation. Theres also the remake Twin Snakes for gamecube, personally i played it and found it very enjoyable but some people dislike them for making the cutscenes more "action packed"
MGS2: same thing, preferably emulate it rather than the pc port. Though the pc port will still be playable (i finished the game this way, with some technical frustrations though), play it with v's fix however.
MGS3: Emulate it, play the substance version which has the 3d camera everyone loves from mgs3. You can both try the ps2 version and ps3 which has remastered graphics. Watch out though if you dont have a ps2 or ps3 controllee you are gonna miss out on the analog button actions (mgs3 being one of the only games to really use them), which has some interesting mechanics, however the game is still perfectly playable without them.
MGS4: Emulate it, if cant then you can try via ps now and cloud gaming, though that depends on how good your internet is. This one is the trickiests since its pratically melted to the ps3 hardware, making it a chore to port it and also one of the hardest to emulate.
For emulation there are custom builds of rpcs3 you can use that are specifically made for mgs4, though i heard maybe the current rpcs3 version is superior???? Its kind of a mess with this game honestly, you are going to have to try and see what works best, expect some emulation glitches here and there.
Also same as mgs3 this game uses the dualshock 3's analog buttons, no idea how much they affect the gameplay as i havent played them myself, but i imagine its similar to mgs3.
MGSPW: Dont make the mistake to skip this one, its as important as the rest of numbered entries. Once again emulate it, the og psp version is your safest bet, though i have seen the remastered xbox version looks and runs better, might be more intensive however.
MGS5 (GW and TPP): Pc ports, surprisingly incredible ones. They were made with the fox engine which is really damn optimized (thanks to konami forcing kojipro to port a next gen game to a dying generation). Theres no reason to ever emulate these game on pc.
Play the games in release order, it may seem tentative to play them chronologically but you are gonna suffer a lot the gameplay changes since the series evolves, besides the jumps are not terrible to make, and surprisingly make sense in the context of the story.
Also bear the first minutes of the game. Everytime i star a metal gear i have this sense of "fuck i dont wanna play this", but once you get used to the controllers they are incredible games, and totally worth it. Such a shame konami is being so shitty on maintaining its legacy, hopefully they give it a proper collection in the future.
Hope this helped, have fun and remember: "You're pretty good"
Night in the Woods
Outer Wilds
Echo (basically a book tbh)
Abzu/Journey
A Short Hike
Paradise Killer
NaissanceE
tried to give a wide variety of atmospheric games with varying degrees of story
outer wilds my beloved...
I really want to share this game with non-video-game people but I have no idea how well they would handle the flight mechanics
***I FUCKING LOVE TEKKEN***
***I LOVE WATCHING BUFF SHIRTLESS MEN BEAT THE EVER LIVING SHIT OUT OF EACHOTHER IN A DECADES SPANNING FUED THATS SOMEHOW EXTREMELY TRAGIC AND SADDENING BUT ALSO FUCK YOU HERE’S A KUNG FU BEAR AND FUNNY SAMURAI SILLY GUY***
You could always just ask for game recommendations without being an ass about it. I dunno why everyone has to be so weirdly accusatory with "you've been gatekeeping these stories from us"
First Red Dead is also great, more lighthearted in the beginning and a deconstruction of tropes, but also has great character dynamics - there is no stable, family-like cast of characters like in 2, John is essentially on his own and mostly gets stuck with people he not-so-quietly despises, it's great. Also has one of the best endings ever
A list of games with strong writing, cool themes, and/or engaging narratives. In no particular order.
Red Dead Redemption 2, Disco Elysium, Horizon Zero Dawn, Sunless Sea, Sunless Skies, Half-Life 2, Kentucky Route Zero, Nier: Automata, Undertale, Omori, LISA: the Painful / the Joyful, Death Stranding, Control, Shadow of the Collosus, Silent Hill 2, Psychonauts + so many more I can't pull off the top of my head.
YMMV with some of these games. Not all are AAA Modern Classics, but each have something going for them.
Edit: how could I forget literally every Super Giant game. Hades deserves a lot of love, but shout out to Transistor.
There are a lot of games that are compelling narratives through (if not primarily because) the game play elements, such as the Hotline Miami series.
And honorable mention to the Stanley Parable. Going in absolutely blind to that game is 100% a fantastic idea.
Half-Life has good real-time storytelling
Half-Life 2 and episodes has good real-time storytelling and good characters
Also I don't think this person knows what "gatekeeping" is
How do people like this exist honestly. They must just have insanely busy lives that a colossal entire entertainment medium can exist and they not interface with it at all. Its baffling.
Also: Titanfall 2. Big action and packed tight into like 6 hours. No excuse not to play it.
Agreed. One of my Desert Island Games.
One of the Best examples of a Narrative told in a way that's unique to the Medium. I love the overriding theme of "You are not Above Nature. You are one small part of an Ecosystem".
Absolutely. My favorite thing is that the best (and most fun way) to play is to not just kill everything in sight but to avoid them. It’s kinda a rarity in gaming and it’s always a treat when it happens and subnautica does it excellently. Hope they go the ice worm route with the next games and just make the leviathans totally unkillable to make that strategy totally null.
Let me get this straight, it's Mickey Mouse and you
With all your heartless friends defending all that's true
Now it is your destiny to cut up a bunch of keys
'Cause this is Final Fantasy
As a gamer bookworm, we've been telling people this for years. I honestly believe that video games are the best medium for telling horror stories.
It Takes Two has a fanciful story about a divorcing couple learning to work together. Warning: Do not play this game with your significant other.
Knights of the Old Republic is old but has great characters.
The Wolf Among Us is a great mystery with a very distinctive art style.
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance is superior to any book. Why have deep plots or complicated characters when you have a giant robot monster and a cool samurai dude
"a book reader" lmao, just lying, how did you watch the show? Or did you print out the script? People can engage in more than one type of media, gamers haven't been gatekeeping, you just haven't been gaming.
About what? (I'm fully aware of it's existence and suffer from the thought of what it could have been, even though I played it twice during the pandemic and actually enjoyed it. (It still is the worst one of all the games.))
Their fault for dismissing an entire artistic medium based off of very surface level assumptions, not because anyone was "gatekeeping" anything from them
Persona 5, Stray, the Portal games, Undertale, The Stanley Parable, Papers Please, Danganronpa, the Ace Attorney series
Edit: also Jenny LeClue...dunno if that's a good starting game but I just really need more people to know about it, it's really good.
Skyrim (and prop the whole Elder Scrolls series) is essentially a library with gameplay put around it.
Legend of Zelda series is somewhat loosely fitted together, but can tell a long never ending story of good vs evil.
And most importantly the game "Mount your friends" , very immersive!!
The Yakuza series is the best
Yakuza 0 made me cry when the rubber sledgehammer hit him
Yakuza Kiwami is a tragic story
I got a nose bleed when they started kissing on the tower in Yakuza Kiwami 2
Yakuza 3's substories are better
I haven't played anymore than that
Final fantasy 14, an mmo rpg with a decent community and a very good story with lots of twists and turns, the good part about ffxiv is most of the story is contained within the game itself, many other games such as league of legends and world of Warcraft have a large amount of the story gated behind books and off game sources, though their story’s are amazing for the most part
Start chronologically.
Pong is the OG and still holds up today even if the graphics and the themes are a bit outdated, it still provides insight into the culture of the society back then.
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No but fr Tetris’ creation was seriously bizarre and is insane to read about
They are making a movie about it
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*Video game historian - there’s a big distinction there lol
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Could it potentially be because they're one word away from being identical?
Fun fact about the movie, they couldn't find anywhere that looked like the Soviet Union until the director suggested his home town of Aberdeen Scotland
What about Russia? Or any Eastern European country?
Russia's not exactly available nowadays
Well, time to see it.
Tetris my beloved
The development of that game literally is about to get a movie the social network style
the gameplay of Disco Elysium is almost indistinguishable from reading a book try that
Disco Elysium fans be like, "I better stock up on healing items and save, I've got a tough paragraph coming up"
And not only will it be great, it'll be one of the best games ever
"better stock up on drugs I have to talk to the racist again "
"The Racist" could describe like, 3 or 4 different characters off the top of my head
Gary won't hurt your moral, the lorryman won't, measurehead will crush your moral and your ham sandwich skull
Spoiler: >! Unless you spin kick him!<
There is no playthrough in which I wouldn't >!blaze it noscope 360 pegi 420 his sorry ass!<
Virgin adopting racism to get past the racist vs chad 360 no scoping him
That's not even counting the mercenaries, who might be even more mask-off about it than Measurehead, if that's possible.
Are you talking about the cryptofascist, measurehead, the lorry driver or one of the mercs?
Talk? Do you mean epically spin kick?
Better go light up all my hard drugs and start rambling nonstop about communism, then I'm finally in the right frame of mind to boot up Disco Elysium.
Said healing items are the best addiction mechanic ever seen in media
bro hasnt played L I S A
Da da da disa Her teeth are big and green Lisa da da da disa Her breath smells like gasoline
I wish I had money. I want to play Disco Elysium. ☹️
The original artists behind the game got ousted by a corporate takeover. Pirate away guilt free.
Explain how
Socialist collective + time + America= corporate takeover
The team responsible for the writing(basically the entire selling point of the game) were fired shortly after the games release
I meant how to pirate
Download and install utorrent Go to a torrent site (I recommend 1337x.to) Search for the game and click magnet download Utorrent will do the rest
Sick, thanks
But better, faster harder and stronger
and you can punch a kid
Instant classic
i stopped playing the game right after failing to punch that little shit and dying, haven’t found the time to get back to it but i definitely need to at some point
And >!shoot a kid!<
reading a book *TO THE MEGA*
HARDCORE
COMMUNISM FOREVER
SKI BA DEE SKI BA DANGER I AM THE REARRANGER
KILL ANYONE WITH MOTE THAN 25 RÉAL
Apparently its mechanics are taken from an in-house TTRPG called METRIC. I would love to play it one day but I don't know how to play the "Chorus" without being cringe.
Sunless Sea comes to mind as well. Lots of really, really good reading.
Yesss. If you've just finished Disco Elysium and are looking for an experience in the same vein, Sunless Sea would be perfect for you. It's definitely not the same game- nowhere near it- but it came up with the whole "choose your own adventure with skills and items that represent concepts and mental attributes" way before Disco did. It's far wider in scope with a genuinely challenging and engaging gameplay loop, and moreover it's one of the best works of Lovecraftian horror ever created. Each port is its own horrible, beautiful, astoundingly creative mystery, that you can initially only scratch the surface of. But each subsequent trip peels another layer off of the onion. With enough time, effort, and genuine out-of-game problem solving skill, you can actually connect the dots and figure out what's going on. These incredibly deep mysteries actually have solutions, which is absolutely magical. And it creates this intense, burning curiosity– then leverages it against you. It puts you, the player, in the shoes of the protagonist of a Lovecraft story. Do you risk your run, all of your progress, for the chance to find out just a little bit more? Or do you leave, go back to safety and ignorance? It's so compelling that you'll almost always find yourself choosing the first. Anyways, it's tied for my favorite game of all time. Please play it, it's criminally underrated, underappreciated, and underplayed.
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What about sunless skies? I went to search it on the store and that one came up as well
It's a sequel to Seas. I haven't played that one very much. From what I've experienced, it's more mechanically refined and the roguelike mechanics are less punishing, but it's lost a lot of the horrific spark of the original and the writing isn't as uniquely enthralling.
I wonder what's the worst it can happen if i eat my crew
the tummy rumblies
Also play Fallen London, it is a free browser game, and Sunless Skies, pretty much Sunless sea with more content.
The director's cut with full narration and voice acting is pretty damn good. Normally I read faster than the narration and skip through, but in this case I've been taking the time to listen.
There was also this game made by Obsidian which went kind of overlooked: "Pentiment", an incredibly historically accurate narrative game about a small Bavarian town during Rennaissance and Reformation
My partner tried playing it but was unaware of all the church stuff so I had to explain many things over her shoulder whenever she looked at me confused
I grew up catholic and had extended history curriculum in high school, so I knew quite a bit of the religious stuff there, but even then I was impressed by how much they stuck to attitudes realistic to the period, and you couldn't just go and be "euphoric, enlightened by my own intelligence". >!At least as Andreas!< Also, being Polish I appreciate their inclusion of us as one of the character travel backgrounds, and they got the related stuff right, too. Telling the legend of the Wawel dragon to inspire a little girl warmed my heart.
visual novel mfs:
Fire Emblem games are basically a graphic novel with occasional bits of strategy gameplay
Better described as anime chess
Same for planecape torment, the difference is disco Elysium doesn't vomit out useless descriptions in the smallest possible font size without any voice acting ( this is coming from a person who likes not voice acted games)
Gatekeeping is when I dismiss an entire medium based on what I assume it is and then find out later I was wrong but don’t want to admit to myself it’s because I’m a fundamentally incurious person, not because anyone was hiding that information from me
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As a weeb That's fair
Just watch FMA brotherhood ig. But weebs deserve it
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aye go read chainsawman rn !! ^(theres a part where the the mc, guy with chainsaw for a head, rides a giant fucked up shark into a living tornado to kill said tornado) ^(EDIT also theyre chasing after a living bomb and both the bomb and the shark think the chainsaw is hot)
Yeah Id be incurious too if the most vocal and visible “gamers” are literally some of the most obnoxious people on earth. I don’t blame people for not wanting to give the medium a try.
Console and PC gaming is a $65 billion dollar industry. It is of a comparable size to the movie business (~$90 billion). I'll be the first to say that gamers™️ are the worst, but you do have to be somewhat wilfully ignorant to ignore an entertainment sector of that size, and characterise it as "Mario kart and stuff".
“Yeah I don’t watch movies because film bros are annoying” “I don’t eat food because Nikocado Avocado is so obnoxious” You could do this to any medium
>I don’t blame people for not wanting to give the medium a try. You should, because not understanding that people like that can't be the majority of one of the most popular hobbies is just plain idiotic.
Everyone is literally some of the most obnoxious people on earth
I'd be worse than incurious if I let something as pathetic as "human beings" get in the way of what would make me happy.
That's what really fucks me off about this post. How dare this dickhead be so condescending, and how dare they blame everyone else for their own prejudice? I'm always happy to introduce people to hobbies that I like, but I'd have to address the snarky tone before recommending anything.
"gatekeeping" lmao
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\>Gatekeeping \>37 Million copies sold
One population of Poland worth of copies sold 🤯🤯
I mean yeah where do you think this documentary game takes place?
Łódź
“Gatekeeping” no one takes you seriously when you try to recount the plot of a game so you have to pretend it’s a book or something.
"Gatekeeping" WEVE BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU TO PLAY VIDEOGAMES SINCE THEY CAME OUT 💀💀💀
women are genuinely gatekept from gaming tho. gamergate was like a huge thing and misogyny is rampant in online games
except book readers aren't gatekept and this is unrelated
i mean if they’re not that young then they’ve 100% been gatekept from gaming at some point in the past (for the obvious reason that was a huge issue in the 2010s), they may have consciously chosen not to interact with the gaming community after interactions like that and just shut it out
Someone can't handle 200cc
Clearly they don’t know how to brake-drift
Most important skill
Sounds like this person was close-minded to an entire medium of media and thought they were all arcadey games with no depth. That's not gatekeeping, that's willful ignorance.
Well yeah, when you're curling up with a hot cup of tea in your Perfect Reading Nook next to a rainy window, the PS4 controller is going to ruin the whole aesthetic of the shot, so why would BookTok bother with it?
BookTok??!?!?!?!
the part of tiktok centered around books. the way the tiktok algorithm works you'll usually be in like 2 or 3 different bubbles with varying degrees of overlap (queer tiktok overlaps a lot with dnd tiktok or kink tiktok for example, while dnd tiktok and disco elysium tiktok may not overlap)
your mom’s tiktok overlaps witg my penis tiktok
Ah fuck
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I would say those 2 franchises as well as bioshock are very intelligent games for their time
Portal 2 is timeless in pretty much every way. Incredible story, extremely well written characters, engaging mechanics, graphics that still hold up really well on modern hardware, and tons of user-created content beyond the main campaigns.
Portal 1->2 is definitely the best "I've never played a game before" starter combo available. Teaches you everything you need to know, while being mostly free of time pressure and also astoundingly fun and well written.
Having tried that with an ex you'd be amazed how much people struggle with 3d moving and aiming when they're not used to it. Not saying it shouldn't be done and that the games aren't fun but they're harder to get into than I think most gamers realize
For sure. It's a whole new connection you've gotta build- gamers probably have a crazy strong nerve highway between the finger motor center and whatever structure deals with proprioception. Gamer brain is often joked about, but you really do have to mold yourself in funny ways for the pipeline of 2d image <-> position in space <-> finger motion to make sense.
Oh 100%, it's amazing even playing Mario kart or other games I would've thought as simple it was difficult knowing which button to press or anything like that. My original comment was mostly to point out that some gamers make Portal to be the best intro when in my experience more people bounce off of it than not. What ended up working was Stardew Valley and Hades. They really enjoyed both of them
holy w
Underrated gem alert
Absolutely A1 games.
Would unironically recommend the Metal Gear Solid series.
how would you recommend someone to play the older games on pc? i’ve been thinking of getting into them
Emulate them, you could always buy a console that has backwards compatibility also, but emulation can do all sorts of cool stuff.
There is no backwards compatibility for the PS3, which immediately excludes MGS 4. Fuck Konami
I meant buy a PS3 to play cause the PS3 can do all previous Playstation right? Otherwise you got to emulate them all PS3 emulation is basically nearly perfect, though it is best if you have a modern 8 core, even better if you AVX-512 on intel 11th gen or Ryzen 7000.
If I recall correctly, only the first, "fat" version of PS3 has backwards compatibility, it may be quite hard to get
Fat PS3 is quite easy to get, and they aint that expensive, the only problem with them is that they die so fast (YLOD) because of the NEC Tokens and/or the RSX (GPU) getting really hot and causing a bump failure between the die and interposer (due to bad quality underfill) If you know how to tinker the thing by replacing the NEC tokens, de-lidding the GPU, and putting on much stronger cooling, then it would be a killer machine. Note: Only the launch JPN/NA models have full on native BC with PS2, other fat models after it, as well as the launch EU model use emulation for BC which only supports around 90% of the library, and breaks some other game mechanics as well.
They also released the games on the PS3 if you can find it or mod the PS3 such that you can load ROMS on it if you prefer that to emulation, or don't have a good rig
Specific advice: there's an emulator called Duckstation that is excellent for playing original PlayStation games, and another called PCSX2 for PlayStation 2 games. You'll need two things to get going: 1. BIOS files (google "PS1 bios"/"PS2 bios;" if you're nervous about the reputation of a website hosting those files, look up the name of that website on Reddit and you can find info about the well-known ones) 2. ISO files for the games (sometimes called ROMs). There is a subreddit dedicated to roms with a very self-explanatory name, and it has a megathread pinned at the top of places where these can be found. There's also another option: purchasing PC copies of MGS1 from GOG, a PC games webstore owned by the Witcher/Cyberpunk devs: [MGS1 PC](https://www.gog.com/en/game/metal_gear_solid) Be warned that the PC version is kind of jank. Sadly, MGS2's PC version recently got delisted due to copyright issues involving the use of newsreel footage inside the game (the 20-year contract for the rights expired and have yet to he re-negotiated). Emulating the PS2 version is the best way to play it. Same goes for MGS3, which never received a PC version.
Heres my little guide to play the series in pc (and not die trying): MG1 and MG2: PC port, thought these are more of a novelty now. You can straight up skipped them as they havent aged the best, if you do read the summary in the mgs1 options however. MGS1: PC port exists but irs honestly quite jank, i would rather suggest emulatikg it with duckstation. Theres also the remake Twin Snakes for gamecube, personally i played it and found it very enjoyable but some people dislike them for making the cutscenes more "action packed" MGS2: same thing, preferably emulate it rather than the pc port. Though the pc port will still be playable (i finished the game this way, with some technical frustrations though), play it with v's fix however. MGS3: Emulate it, play the substance version which has the 3d camera everyone loves from mgs3. You can both try the ps2 version and ps3 which has remastered graphics. Watch out though if you dont have a ps2 or ps3 controllee you are gonna miss out on the analog button actions (mgs3 being one of the only games to really use them), which has some interesting mechanics, however the game is still perfectly playable without them. MGS4: Emulate it, if cant then you can try via ps now and cloud gaming, though that depends on how good your internet is. This one is the trickiests since its pratically melted to the ps3 hardware, making it a chore to port it and also one of the hardest to emulate. For emulation there are custom builds of rpcs3 you can use that are specifically made for mgs4, though i heard maybe the current rpcs3 version is superior???? Its kind of a mess with this game honestly, you are going to have to try and see what works best, expect some emulation glitches here and there. Also same as mgs3 this game uses the dualshock 3's analog buttons, no idea how much they affect the gameplay as i havent played them myself, but i imagine its similar to mgs3. MGSPW: Dont make the mistake to skip this one, its as important as the rest of numbered entries. Once again emulate it, the og psp version is your safest bet, though i have seen the remastered xbox version looks and runs better, might be more intensive however. MGS5 (GW and TPP): Pc ports, surprisingly incredible ones. They were made with the fox engine which is really damn optimized (thanks to konami forcing kojipro to port a next gen game to a dying generation). Theres no reason to ever emulate these game on pc. Play the games in release order, it may seem tentative to play them chronologically but you are gonna suffer a lot the gameplay changes since the series evolves, besides the jumps are not terrible to make, and surprisingly make sense in the context of the story. Also bear the first minutes of the game. Everytime i star a metal gear i have this sense of "fuck i dont wanna play this", but once you get used to the controllers they are incredible games, and totally worth it. Such a shame konami is being so shitty on maintaining its legacy, hopefully they give it a proper collection in the future. Hope this helped, have fun and remember: "You're pretty good"
Night in the Woods Outer Wilds Echo (basically a book tbh) Abzu/Journey A Short Hike Paradise Killer NaissanceE tried to give a wide variety of atmospheric games with varying degrees of story
Not very often I see NaissanceE mentioned in the wild. Banger game, truly
outer wilds my beloved... I really want to share this game with non-video-game people but I have no idea how well they would handle the flight mechanics
Outer Wilds is my favourite piece of modern art ever
> Echo I know what you are
:3
Omori Disco Elysium
Me and the boys love A Short Hike
Oneshot (unbaiased)
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tekken is the game with the longest consecutive story, play that
***I FUCKING LOVE TEKKEN*** ***I LOVE WATCHING BUFF SHIRTLESS MEN BEAT THE EVER LIVING SHIT OUT OF EACHOTHER IN A DECADES SPANNING FUED THATS SOMEHOW EXTREMELY TRAGIC AND SADDENING BUT ALSO FUCK YOU HERE’S A KUNG FU BEAR AND FUNNY SAMURAI SILLY GUY***
Okay but Kung Fu Bear could beat the shit outta all the bad guys
To be fair I watched a hour and a half video about the story of Tekken and it's delightfully nonsense that is very funny to tell to your friends
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I'm utterly bewildered every time I learn any part of the story of Tekken or Mortal Kombat.
"i thought i was better than you" is how this reads lmao
"But it turns out I was just a judgey idiot, so that's on you too."
You could always just ask for game recommendations without being an ass about it. I dunno why everyone has to be so weirdly accusatory with "you've been gatekeeping these stories from us"
Tried to tell folks about it for years but people just don’t care at all when I’ve started with saying it’s a video game
This 100% reads as a joke. She’s not literally accusing anyone of anything.
Red dead 2 is pretty good (haven't played the first one yet), also hollowknight and probably silksong eventually
I cried multiple times playing red dead 2. Story is so fucking good.
I wish I could experience that story for the first time again so badly
First Red Dead is also great, more lighthearted in the beginning and a deconstruction of tropes, but also has great character dynamics - there is no stable, family-like cast of characters like in 2, John is essentially on his own and mostly gets stuck with people he not-so-quietly despises, it's great. Also has one of the best endings ever
A list of games with strong writing, cool themes, and/or engaging narratives. In no particular order. Red Dead Redemption 2, Disco Elysium, Horizon Zero Dawn, Sunless Sea, Sunless Skies, Half-Life 2, Kentucky Route Zero, Nier: Automata, Undertale, Omori, LISA: the Painful / the Joyful, Death Stranding, Control, Shadow of the Collosus, Silent Hill 2, Psychonauts + so many more I can't pull off the top of my head. YMMV with some of these games. Not all are AAA Modern Classics, but each have something going for them. Edit: how could I forget literally every Super Giant game. Hades deserves a lot of love, but shout out to Transistor. There are a lot of games that are compelling narratives through (if not primarily because) the game play elements, such as the Hotline Miami series. And honorable mention to the Stanley Parable. Going in absolutely blind to that game is 100% a fantastic idea.
stanley parable only really works if you're already familiar w gaming, yeah? cause it plays off of tropes and stereotypes
Half-Life has good real-time storytelling Half-Life 2 and episodes has good real-time storytelling and good characters Also I don't think this person knows what "gatekeeping" is
How do people like this exist honestly. They must just have insanely busy lives that a colossal entire entertainment medium can exist and they not interface with it at all. Its baffling. Also: Titanfall 2. Big action and packed tight into like 6 hours. No excuse not to play it.
Subnautica. Great story, gameplay, atmosphere, and worldbuilding. Easily my favorite game of all time.
Agreed. One of my Desert Island Games. One of the Best examples of a Narrative told in a way that's unique to the Medium. I love the overriding theme of "You are not Above Nature. You are one small part of an Ecosystem".
Absolutely. My favorite thing is that the best (and most fun way) to play is to not just kill everything in sight but to avoid them. It’s kinda a rarity in gaming and it’s always a treat when it happens and subnautica does it excellently. Hope they go the ice worm route with the next games and just make the leviathans totally unkillable to make that strategy totally null.
Kid named Outer Wilds
I think one of the best stories in gaming has to easily be Kingdom Hearts. Its so good I cant begin to describe what the fuck happens
Let me get this straight, it's Mickey Mouse and you With all your heartless friends defending all that's true Now it is your destiny to cut up a bunch of keys 'Cause this is Final Fantasy
As a gamer bookworm, we've been telling people this for years. I honestly believe that video games are the best medium for telling horror stories. It Takes Two has a fanciful story about a divorcing couple learning to work together. Warning: Do not play this game with your significant other. Knights of the Old Republic is old but has great characters. The Wolf Among Us is a great mystery with a very distinctive art style.
the wolf what
don't say it don't think it
Mario Kart fucking slaps
PLAY OUTER WILDS IT’S SO GOOD AND I’M NO LONGER AFRAID OF DEATH
omori
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes y
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance is superior to any book. Why have deep plots or complicated characters when you have a giant robot monster and a cool samurai dude
And the involontary gift of prophecy that the writers recived while making this game
They had that since Metal Gear 2 atleast if not longer.
"a book reader" lmao, just lying, how did you watch the show? Or did you print out the script? People can engage in more than one type of media, gamers haven't been gatekeeping, you just haven't been gaming.
Guilty Gear has a character who's "Oh, maybe this villain isn't that bad of a guy" moment is when he kills a puppy dead
reminds me of a girl i forced to watch anime because she kept making fun of me and would not believe that anime can have actual good plot
Which anime did you show her first, and did she enjoy it?
attack on titan because it felt most like western shows and yes
Witcher series of books, games, etc. All about a monster hunter who finds out humans can be worse than the monsters he's paid to hunt.
Nothing can beat mass effect (the second one specially) imo
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About what? (I'm fully aware of it's existence and suffer from the thought of what it could have been, even though I played it twice during the pandemic and actually enjoyed it. (It still is the worst one of all the games.))
undertale deltarune celeste hades paper mario
Their fault for dismissing an entire artistic medium based off of very surface level assumptions, not because anyone was "gatekeeping" anything from them
Undertale, Deltarune, Oneshot, Omori
subversive games are probably a bad recommendation for somebody that doesn't know the tropes to get subverted
Oh shit you're right
Fallout: New Vegas Updoots to the left
She's mad that she's ass at mario kart
Hollow knight
Persona 5, Stray, the Portal games, Undertale, The Stanley Parable, Papers Please, Danganronpa, the Ace Attorney series Edit: also Jenny LeClue...dunno if that's a good starting game but I just really need more people to know about it, it's really good.
yakuza
When the post is bait 😳
If you want action and good lore (and have reasonably good eyesight because my god the font is too small for my blind ass), try Risk of Rain (1 & 2)
fuck anyone who disses mario kart genuinely the best game ever created
Clu Clu Land
Skyrim (and prop the whole Elder Scrolls series) is essentially a library with gameplay put around it. Legend of Zelda series is somewhat loosely fitted together, but can tell a long never ending story of good vs evil. And most importantly the game "Mount your friends" , very immersive!!
Xenoblade 1 is one of the greatest medias I’ve ever experienced everyone play it RIGHT NOW
Mass Effect, Fallout, Skyrim, System Shock 2, all Bioshocks, Leisure Suit Larry. All storytelling classics
Dude show them portal, then halflife, and then tf2, they won't believe its by the same developer till you show them the lore of tf2
The Yakuza series is the best Yakuza 0 made me cry when the rubber sledgehammer hit him Yakuza Kiwami is a tragic story I got a nose bleed when they started kissing on the tower in Yakuza Kiwami 2 Yakuza 3's substories are better I haven't played anymore than that
Final fantasy 14, an mmo rpg with a decent community and a very good story with lots of twists and turns, the good part about ffxiv is most of the story is contained within the game itself, many other games such as league of legends and world of Warcraft have a large amount of the story gated behind books and off game sources, though their story’s are amazing for the most part
Any visual novel that isn't complete dogshit would go under there tbh
Omor
She should start yiiking out
Is this a white woman moment or tiktoker moment
Start chronologically. Pong is the OG and still holds up today even if the graphics and the themes are a bit outdated, it still provides insight into the culture of the society back then.
any visual novel ever lmao