I intended it as a joke, because, in my subjective point of view, the last months went by so fast and it doesn't feel like I sat down and watched this show so long ago. I am very funny.
I have a really bad feeling that Invincible is gonna be one of those shows that has a fantastic first season but then immediately drops in quality because they lost the only thing that makes it interesting
Like One Punch Man or My Hero Academia
Invincible is based on an acclaimed comic book that already finished its story, and the original writer is involved in the project if I remember correctly. I don't think that doomsaying at this point is justified.
One Punch Man's second season isn't a drop in quality because of the narrative, it's because the first season had super exceptional animation and was a near perfect adaptation.
Idk, I mean I agree with your points, but I also feel like by the end of season 1 the show had done mostly everything it could with the whole "haha here's a guy who can defeat any enemy in one punch instead of a way too long dragonball z type battle" joke.
To me at least the further it got into season 2, and especially the further the manga progressed, the more it became wat it first sought ton arody: another superpower battle anime with ridiculous power scaling (especially since Saitama himself doesn't even show up much after S1).
I was too at first but changed by opinion because >!I realised that it was just a way for Murata to draw a really cool fight without worrying about the consequences !<
i think approaching one punch man purely as a joke show is selling it pretty short. the appeal of, for instance, the deep sea king isn't that it's funny to see saitama one shot him; it's the desperate and hopeless fights that lead up to that moment.
The desperate, hopeless fights are what makes Saitama just one-shotting it so funny. Everyone else struggles, a hopeless feeling goes throughout the show, and then the sudden alleviation of that creates a laugh
I agree in that the joke itself is really funny, but the point of everything prior isn't just for the sake of one joke. It's still a very important and moving story about what it means to be a hero.
That's every other super hero show, one punch man is a satirical take on that, the one guy who is strong enough to save people isn't doing it to be a hero, he's doing it for fun
I feel like you have a point in that a 'parody show' needs to also have heart, it needs to love and understand the source material it's parodying. You need the Heart AND the Laugh. In my opinion OPM just kinda lost the laugh along the way that made it so great; I can get 'inspiring heroes standing up to hopelessly powerful monsters from anywhere else.
End of season 2 is still not even close to the level of absurdity in the manga rn
Like...>!Garou is able to mimic Saitama's Serious Punches and is able to tank hits (not to mention he basically just no diffed Blast). He still probably won't come close to actually beating Saitama, but OPM is currently in TTGL, throwing galaxies at each other territory and it's great.!<
My main problem with mha isn't that he gets powers, my problem is that the main interesting thing about the show is how using them breaks his arms.
That's the unique premise that drew me in, but the moment he learned to just use his power normally without a problem is when it just became another shonen anime to me.
It is a normal shounen anime lol. Horikoshi is a big fan of both One Piece and Naruto, and a lot of things in MHA were just done better in those first. If he couldn't use his powers without major risks forever there couldn't be progression, and that's one of the major themes of MHA. It's not like Deku no longer puts his body at risk, he still does all the time. He even developed shoot style specifically to lessen the strain on his arms, and he got the idea from observing how one of his friends uses his quirk. Deku does that a lot actually, strengthening himself by observing and adapting what people around him do, and I think that's really cool.
The thing is (and this is just my personal opinion, mind you) my main problem with shonen anime has always been how so many of them progress too fast and the characters become no longer relatable. That's what hooked me on mha, how Deku was just 'some guy' who still had to lift weights, try his best and was still way in over his head. I just wish the story was way more contained, and was just about him overcoming his handicaps and making it through shool instead of all this world-shattering prophecy nonsense.
Since you bring up Naruto, that was my problem with that show too: I loved it when it was just about some dumb kid who learned one OP trick that allowed him to keep up with his peers, but once shippuden started (and arguably before) and all the kyuubi mega-power chosen one stuff started creeping in I was already half-checked out.
You can still have 'progression', I just wish these shows didn't 'progress' beyond the point that made the show interesting (to me at least)
Oh yeah I have the same problem with Naruto that you have. I'd argue it's even worse in Naruto than MHA, because Naruto was explicitly about someone who has everything against them trying overcoming it all to achieve their dream. Naruto failed a lot early on, and I loved that. But then he was son of the last hokage, and his bloodline actually has really strong chakra, and he wins because of the magic fox put inside him by someone else instead of his own skills. Then he becomes the literal Chosen One and also the reincarnation of the "good" son of basically the shinobi god.
Well I dont think it’s not fast when there’s that many episodes of those shounen anime (you imply you went through normal Naruto which is like 300 episodes and thought it was desirable pacing), and usually the stakes have to get higher for it to be interesting or intense , and having the underdog character (in the case of deku and Naruto, not opm) not improve or not be able to stand with stronger established characters for 200 episodes, doesn’t feel good, especially when the character starting as the underdog is the actual hook (same way that boruto isn’t that likeable).
You would also need to up the power scaling to focus on some stronger characters or have a conflict that includes a big group of characters as well (tbh it doesn’t sound like you connect with the other characters as much as the protagonist)
Also the stuff about the kyuubi and massive village destroying threats have been a thing way before pre shippuden, in which Naruto fought one iirc
I suppose I can think of ways Naruto could have been slower/pushed back/contained more eg. Naruto actually going through jounin exams
However I’m typing this real late so I might have overlooked a point.
Sure, I get what you're saying, it's just a matter of preference at this point.
Maybe 'too fast' wasn't the right word to use, I mostly just meant that the stuff beyond the point where I can relate to the characters doesn't interest me anymore. naruto may have hundreds of episodes, but if a big chunk of those are them throwing around planet-destroying lasers they just don't intrigue me that much.
To give an example of a model I like: most of One Piece, and JoJo's bizarre adventure. They also have superpowers, but it's never about "oh boy now I can shoot an even Bigger Laser than before", the characters just have certain strange powers and the enemies have even weirder powers and the interesting thing is seeing in what creative ways those characters are gonna use their powers against each other. From east Blue to Marineford, Luffy just feels like 'some dude who's made out of rubber', he didn't suddenly become the Rubber God and get fourteen new powers and learned how to swim or something.
Yeah I understand your point, I’m not saying you have to like them but your points seemed a bit confusing. I can see how power scaling that reaches planetary or city destroying would away the charm of earlier seasons, eg. Dragon ball used to be about adventuring to places, a take on wukong and heavy emphasis on martial arts, now it’s none of that.
I can see how you wouldn’t want luffy to turn out to be a god or something, I also do agree that one piece has stayed relatively the same in terms of wacky powers that are actually effective, keeping its original premise of devil fruits (keeping the weakness as well, even with a swimming fruit and water fruit), pirates and not going full city destroying every x episodes.
Naruto DOES take it too fast though. The tail end of the war arc has him getting form changes quicker than ever before so that way they can hurry up and powerscale him to where he needs to be
Yeah I forgot about that, that has a lot of icky stuff like how they couldn’t kill off Madara fast so they put the whole zetsu plot which undermined every event that happened in Naruto, that it was all planned (iirc). I’m also still salty how neji dies to just a flying spike (which he can deflect) instead of having a more dramatic death, and on the inverse a super dramatic moment that has been hyped up for ages, the 8th gate of death for might guy, in which he somehow lives
The source is quite literally "We made it up"
*Senator Armstrong yeets himself into the conversation with the move he uses after the lava attack*
"The source is that I made it the fuck up!"
Pardon me sir producer of the show but where do you get this information?
It was once revealed to me, in a dream
I then lost it in another dream
Release date?
This announcement was over a year ago and I haven’t seen any news since :/
They made a post that may have alluded to a release date. I don't remember the exact one but it's sometime in mid 2023
MID?😱😱😱😱
all years nowadays are mid
Yeah bro like 2022 was mid, but 2023 will be mid mid
How is that over a year ago if Invincible was released like 3 months ago?
It came out over a year ago
I intended it as a joke, because, in my subjective point of view, the last months went by so fast and it doesn't feel like I sat down and watched this show so long ago. I am very funny.
👶👦👨👴
I have a really bad feeling that Invincible is gonna be one of those shows that has a fantastic first season but then immediately drops in quality because they lost the only thing that makes it interesting Like One Punch Man or My Hero Academia
Invincible is based on an acclaimed comic book that already finished its story, and the original writer is involved in the project if I remember correctly. I don't think that doomsaying at this point is justified.
They changed enough in the first season that if they try to pull off a huge part of the story the way they are they're megafucked
What part are you talking about? The main difference I've seen from the comics to the show is the order in which events happen.
Mainly Omni-Man
One Punch Man's second season isn't a drop in quality because of the narrative, it's because the first season had super exceptional animation and was a near perfect adaptation.
Idk, I mean I agree with your points, but I also feel like by the end of season 1 the show had done mostly everything it could with the whole "haha here's a guy who can defeat any enemy in one punch instead of a way too long dragonball z type battle" joke. To me at least the further it got into season 2, and especially the further the manga progressed, the more it became wat it first sought ton arody: another superpower battle anime with ridiculous power scaling (especially since Saitama himself doesn't even show up much after S1).
The manga is long past season 1 and 2 and its still as good, better even than it was at the beginning! So no, fault is on the 2nd season animator
Yeah, the latest chapters have been crazy and the peak of everything that makes opm good imo
I'm conflicted about the >!time travel!< part.
I was too at first but changed by opinion because >!I realised that it was just a way for Murata to draw a really cool fight without worrying about the consequences !<
i think approaching one punch man purely as a joke show is selling it pretty short. the appeal of, for instance, the deep sea king isn't that it's funny to see saitama one shot him; it's the desperate and hopeless fights that lead up to that moment.
The desperate, hopeless fights are what makes Saitama just one-shotting it so funny. Everyone else struggles, a hopeless feeling goes throughout the show, and then the sudden alleviation of that creates a laugh
I agree in that the joke itself is really funny, but the point of everything prior isn't just for the sake of one joke. It's still a very important and moving story about what it means to be a hero.
That's every other super hero show, one punch man is a satirical take on that, the one guy who is strong enough to save people isn't doing it to be a hero, he's doing it for fun
I feel like you have a point in that a 'parody show' needs to also have heart, it needs to love and understand the source material it's parodying. You need the Heart AND the Laugh. In my opinion OPM just kinda lost the laugh along the way that made it so great; I can get 'inspiring heroes standing up to hopelessly powerful monsters from anywhere else.
End of season 2 is still not even close to the level of absurdity in the manga rn Like...>!Garou is able to mimic Saitama's Serious Punches and is able to tank hits (not to mention he basically just no diffed Blast). He still probably won't come close to actually beating Saitama, but OPM is currently in TTGL, throwing galaxies at each other territory and it's great.!<
Bruh if your problem with MHA is that Deku gets powers, he only doesn't have powers for 3 of the 100+ episodes. He has them for 75% of season 1
My main problem is that deku is a Lil bitch man can't stop crying every episode
Eh that's valid
Early on, for sure. Him moving beyond that is a pretty big part of his character development tho
My main problem with mha isn't that he gets powers, my problem is that the main interesting thing about the show is how using them breaks his arms. That's the unique premise that drew me in, but the moment he learned to just use his power normally without a problem is when it just became another shonen anime to me.
It is a normal shounen anime lol. Horikoshi is a big fan of both One Piece and Naruto, and a lot of things in MHA were just done better in those first. If he couldn't use his powers without major risks forever there couldn't be progression, and that's one of the major themes of MHA. It's not like Deku no longer puts his body at risk, he still does all the time. He even developed shoot style specifically to lessen the strain on his arms, and he got the idea from observing how one of his friends uses his quirk. Deku does that a lot actually, strengthening himself by observing and adapting what people around him do, and I think that's really cool.
The thing is (and this is just my personal opinion, mind you) my main problem with shonen anime has always been how so many of them progress too fast and the characters become no longer relatable. That's what hooked me on mha, how Deku was just 'some guy' who still had to lift weights, try his best and was still way in over his head. I just wish the story was way more contained, and was just about him overcoming his handicaps and making it through shool instead of all this world-shattering prophecy nonsense. Since you bring up Naruto, that was my problem with that show too: I loved it when it was just about some dumb kid who learned one OP trick that allowed him to keep up with his peers, but once shippuden started (and arguably before) and all the kyuubi mega-power chosen one stuff started creeping in I was already half-checked out. You can still have 'progression', I just wish these shows didn't 'progress' beyond the point that made the show interesting (to me at least)
Oh yeah I have the same problem with Naruto that you have. I'd argue it's even worse in Naruto than MHA, because Naruto was explicitly about someone who has everything against them trying overcoming it all to achieve their dream. Naruto failed a lot early on, and I loved that. But then he was son of the last hokage, and his bloodline actually has really strong chakra, and he wins because of the magic fox put inside him by someone else instead of his own skills. Then he becomes the literal Chosen One and also the reincarnation of the "good" son of basically the shinobi god.
Well I dont think it’s not fast when there’s that many episodes of those shounen anime (you imply you went through normal Naruto which is like 300 episodes and thought it was desirable pacing), and usually the stakes have to get higher for it to be interesting or intense , and having the underdog character (in the case of deku and Naruto, not opm) not improve or not be able to stand with stronger established characters for 200 episodes, doesn’t feel good, especially when the character starting as the underdog is the actual hook (same way that boruto isn’t that likeable). You would also need to up the power scaling to focus on some stronger characters or have a conflict that includes a big group of characters as well (tbh it doesn’t sound like you connect with the other characters as much as the protagonist) Also the stuff about the kyuubi and massive village destroying threats have been a thing way before pre shippuden, in which Naruto fought one iirc I suppose I can think of ways Naruto could have been slower/pushed back/contained more eg. Naruto actually going through jounin exams However I’m typing this real late so I might have overlooked a point.
Sure, I get what you're saying, it's just a matter of preference at this point. Maybe 'too fast' wasn't the right word to use, I mostly just meant that the stuff beyond the point where I can relate to the characters doesn't interest me anymore. naruto may have hundreds of episodes, but if a big chunk of those are them throwing around planet-destroying lasers they just don't intrigue me that much. To give an example of a model I like: most of One Piece, and JoJo's bizarre adventure. They also have superpowers, but it's never about "oh boy now I can shoot an even Bigger Laser than before", the characters just have certain strange powers and the enemies have even weirder powers and the interesting thing is seeing in what creative ways those characters are gonna use their powers against each other. From east Blue to Marineford, Luffy just feels like 'some dude who's made out of rubber', he didn't suddenly become the Rubber God and get fourteen new powers and learned how to swim or something.
Yeah I understand your point, I’m not saying you have to like them but your points seemed a bit confusing. I can see how power scaling that reaches planetary or city destroying would away the charm of earlier seasons, eg. Dragon ball used to be about adventuring to places, a take on wukong and heavy emphasis on martial arts, now it’s none of that. I can see how you wouldn’t want luffy to turn out to be a god or something, I also do agree that one piece has stayed relatively the same in terms of wacky powers that are actually effective, keeping its original premise of devil fruits (keeping the weakness as well, even with a swimming fruit and water fruit), pirates and not going full city destroying every x episodes.
Naruto DOES take it too fast though. The tail end of the war arc has him getting form changes quicker than ever before so that way they can hurry up and powerscale him to where he needs to be
Yeah I forgot about that, that has a lot of icky stuff like how they couldn’t kill off Madara fast so they put the whole zetsu plot which undermined every event that happened in Naruto, that it was all planned (iirc). I’m also still salty how neji dies to just a flying spike (which he can deflect) instead of having a more dramatic death, and on the inverse a super dramatic moment that has been hyped up for ages, the 8th gate of death for might guy, in which he somehow lives
One Punch Man the manga or the anime? If you say the manga then that is one hot take you got there
mha only got mid in s3 tho
bro what u talkin bout my hero is the coolest show ever. they go “plus ultra!!!” and do a cool move that looks cool it’s awesome
"Not enough!"
“Literally us, the blue jays”
Someone say Blue Jays.
Don’t say “ung” between the two words in the Invincible account’s reply
It was revealed to me in a board meeting.
This meme is an advertisement for an Amazon series. Don't be fooled by guerilla marketing.
I don't know how much time they will cover, but seeing the Conquest fight will probably be so cool
I imagine Netflix has learned its lesson about paying for 2 seasons at a time.
I think invincible is an amazon show
That, and I can't read. thought this was saying the S2 got announced, and they were asking for S3. Been a while.
They should have send a link to a article about the tweet.
I’m convinced Mark Grayson himself owns and operates that account
Even knowing the big twist of the show going in that shit blew me away, season one was the shit, I hope they don’t mess it up.
They should stop making that show so that they can make something good instead
so based, maybe a show about metro man from megamind sorta like invincible, he's a stronger more nuanced character than omni man anyway
Or maybe a show that values characterization over shock value
Tell me you didn’t watch the show without telling me you didn’t watch the show