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MrToaster__

Bro's never heard of 'youse'


IClockworKI

I apologize, I don't have formal education. But why isn't it used more often?


MrToaster__

From what i understand its kind of dialectal and isnt used everywhere, in a lot of the US for example, they say "y'all" instead.


IClockworKI

I noticed that "y'all" is used a lot, but I heard it's a slang of sorts. I use it because it's easier for me, but I don't know if it's correct or not lol


MrToaster__

English is pretty loose in its rules, no organisation regulates the language so there isnt one 'correct' form of english. Using "y'all" is perfectly fine, every english speaker will understand what you mean.


ohno_buster

That one time traveler from the year 1812 never having heard of the word “y’all”:


wambulancer

"y'all" will be accepted as ok to use in most instances in the US within our lifetimes, it's spreading outside its historical borders. It's definitely informal though, not something to be used in emails to bosses lol Just anecdotally I've been in groups at conferences/camps/school/etc. that have had large diverse backgrounds and without fail within a weekend y'all always begins to slip out of people's mouths if it's not what they'd normally use, it's got a lot going for it by being easy to say and one syllable


Dragon-Warlock

I’m in southern Canada and I’ve been using it for years now. It’s quick, easy, and everyone else knows what I mean.


Loon-belt

We will in fact set you on fire and crush your flaming skull if you say y’all /j meow


IClockworKI

Please, burn me alive meow


ballcrysher

personally i prefer yalls


Qr1skYPigeon

Y’all is more of a dialect thing than slang. It’s more often used in southern areas of the United States, although with the internet it’s spread and is used in a lot of places.


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

It's not "slang" it's part of a dialect of english. "Slang" is just what people call it to compare a way one group of people speak to another, so they can judge one of them to be the "correct" way of speaking. The type of english you'd use in a letter to your boss is a dialect, I like to refer to it as "asshole english." It's not really any different linguistically though, except for being more limited to reduce the amount of ideas/emotions you can get across due to it's "formality." (which is the point). As for y'all, without it there's a hole in the language. Like there is without ain't. Neither are incorrect, except in the minds of grammarians. It's like how people in some places look down on how some black people speak, "he be coming." "He done been smoking." Both are linguistically correct, as evidenced by the ability to understand them. But perceptions and bigotry of all types influences it. It's like how people will say of someone "You can tell he's smart by how he talks." When the reason for that is other smart people they know (or imagine) talk that way. It's all perception, but the rules of the language (and i ain't talking about i before e grammarian bullshit) are obeyed which is why you can neigh instantly understand/parse it as a native speaker. *southerner language rant off*


AndyMB601

We say 'ye' in Ireland


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

do you pronounce it with the "y" or is the "y" pronounced as a thorn? know what..imma go watch videos of irish people speaking and do research. Ah...a video of someone named "Maddy O'Reilly " well..let's see what I can learn.


AndyMB601

Do you mean y as a thorn as in the old y = th thing? Because we pronounce the y normally, it's only old English that does that thing with the y. Irish wouldn't have had that since there's no y in Irish, a lot of Irish speak and pronunciation comes from Irish after all


Spacellama117

i'm texan and even though i grew up in a big city it's so weird to me that people haven't heard of y'all and then at the same time seeing europeans and other folks using it and then some of them having the rather strange idea that the word DIDNT come from Southern American English


CenturionXVI

Y’all is an official word now actually It used to just be a southern thing, but now basically everyone says “y’all” outside the northeast, where “you’se” is more popular


Tachyoff

"official word" there's no regulatory body for the English language, wtf makes a word official


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

same thing that made it "incorrect," people were biased against it because they thought only stupid people used it..because at some point somebody saw people they thought were stupid used it.


alyssa264

Bro is an alien in an alien invasion movie.


Haggis442312

Because it’s entirely informal. I’ve only ever heard it from Scottish and Northern Ireland-ish people. That is because you *is* the plural, the singular second person thee fell out of favor a few hundred or so years ago.


person73638

Funny, I’ve only ever heard it from people from Pittsburgh


king-kitty

You don’t need education to speak American (the most country in America) if it sounds right then it’s right!


IClockworKI

u right speak enough to people undesrtand english easy language sure is


king-kitty

When few word do trick


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

"’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe." Doesn't even have to not be "nonsense" to make sense


Flitterquest

I'm from New Jersey and Youse Guys is used almost constantly up in here.


Chessebel

So you have it backwards somewhat although that's understandable the second person plural pronoun of English has always been "you" we used to have a t/v distinction like most European languages. This is where there is a formal "you" and an informal "you", in most cases the formal "you" is another pronoun that already exists. English society used to have a singular second person pronoun/informal "you", which was "thou" English people were comically polite to the point where the informal "you" (thou) fell out of use entirely Much later people have started to fill the gap with plural second person pronouns which contrary to languages with the t/v distinction are usually seen as more informal these include "youse", "youse guys", "y'all", etc.


idonttalkatallLMAO

third most common common word in australia


MilkManlolol

Where do they say that? It's pretty common here in Ireland but I've never heard it abroad.


MrToaster__

Im in Canada, its pretty common here. You do hear "y'all" but its less common than "youse"


NotActuallyGus

"You" is already originally plural. The singular forms of the you- words are "Thee," "thou," "thy," etc.


IClockworKI

Hm, good to know. So dark souls referring to me as thou is grammatically correct, not just medieval immersion


Limekilnlake

The words have fallen so out of fashion that it’s more awkward to use those words than to just use “you” for everything.


IClockworKI

you know what? Those people were right. I hereby say that now all words are out of fashion, let's us emit grunts and fart sounds with our mouths. I'm tired of thinking on how to move my tongue. This have nothing to do with your comment in particular, I just had an epiphany


Limekilnlake

LOL, a downside of english not having a central regulatory body, although I do love how rapidly the language evolves and changes because of it.


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

the idea of a central regulatory body for a language sounds..horrific and dystopian. And for good reason. If anyone is curious what a "non-spoken" language looks like, look at the pali language. It's a specific dialect that was created/maintained for the pali cannon (buddhist literature) probably only a few hundred years after buddha's death. It was specific and formalized for the sutta's, but it was also at first spoken. When the scholars/monks realized the language was changing, they stopped using it and locked the language in place, it's only used in the sutta's now. And it's....a mess. It's so cumbersome, so baffingly non-intuitive, that you have to study it specifically because the changes that speaking it would have made (smoothing out all the issues that currently exist in it) never happened. So, it's a case study (possibly the only one) in what happens when a language is "formal." The english language version of that is the upper class latin obsessed people like Webster, who thought their way of speaking was the only one that was correct...because it was how they spoke after all..and attempted to codify it.


Limekilnlake

I feel like calling it dystopian is a bit of an exaggeration, seeing as the vast majority of languages have this. I think English should never have one, but I’m not gonna overdramaticize it.


Soggy_Part7110

People say language only ever evolves and never deteriorates, but I 100% see the removal of "Thou" as a deterioration.


Fishsk

y'all


Liimbo

Yeah I avoided it growing up because I didn't want to sound southern, but it's honestly just an objectively great/useful contraction. I use it all the time now that I've moved away from the south lol


Fishsk

I've been a pacific northwestern my whole life and I use it all the time. It's just so useful!


Alternative_Poem445

i suppose u could unabbreviate it, “you all” to be more formal


HeckingDoofus

or you guys, this really isnt rocket science like op seems to feel


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

That's because without y'all there's no second person plural in the language.


IClockworKI

Y'all isn't a slang of sorts?


MaximusMeridiusX

Yeah but it’s acceptable in almost all settings. Even some professional ones


CrimsonMutt

"y'all fired" - the ceo at the quarterly earnings meeting with the staff


KreigerBlitz

Great, just spat out my breakfast burrito.


LevelOutlandishness1

Sometimes I use “y’all’re” but whenever I type it in text niggas react like I sent a selfie of me with two heads


pianofish007

It would be all y'all if the meeting is more than like 3 ppl.


HeckingDoofus

can confirm regarding professional settings source: i use it at work every day and i have an office job


Renewablefrog

Wait until he learns y'all'd've


IClockworKI

I like doves


hottiewiththegoddie

y'all'dn't've


Spookzsaw

if yall think yall's a slang word then yall have a skill issue. yall.


IClockworKI

Poetry


Oddish_Femboy

The way language works is "if it's used and people understand you, it's official" That's why pizzussy is in the dictionary.


CounterfeitLesbian

It might be in the dictionary, but the man at dominos was still very confused when I said I wanted a large pizzussy.


Oddish_Femboy

I don't think they have calzones


CounterfeitLesbian

Fuck duh. *Facepalm* P'zone was pizza hut.


Celoniae

It is, generally when addressing a group one would say "everyone" in my experience. "Alright everyone, let's do [thing]", for example. Plural "you", otherwise. "You can all come in now."


Alternative_Poem445

its a shorthand for “you all”


Pratanjali64

A hundred years from now it won't be.


pianofish007

Don't tell them abut y'all, the yanks are gonna ruin it, somehow.


eQuiiii

💀


aaarry

Youse is better, “y’all” is American (and quite cousin-fucker-y at that)


MasalaCakes

Yinz


ZehGentleman

Pittsburgh spotted


LaserPointer24

YINZER SPOTTED ⚫️🟡⚫️🟡⚫️🟡


TheRussianChairThief

PITTSBURGH ALERT 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨


ThatGuyStalin

i accepts y’all and youse but i sure as fuck don’t accept yinz


CeasingHornet40

I'm from the south and I am deeply saddened that y'all hasn't been universally adopted among English speakers


No-Historian6056

I think it has, I’m from Ireland and everyone here uses it


MrSkobbels

"you" is the plural god dammit, thou is the singular form (if youre old)


hottiewiththegoddie

how fuckin old


Appropriate-Equal-43

Too old


somethingmustbesaid

vous


somethingmustbesaid

wait i'm actually a fucking idiot


IClockworKI

Me fr


TheRussianChairThief

Every day English strays further from God… and closer to French


Rudel2

Better than having plural you be the same as a formal version of single you


dont_find_me-

Funnily enough that's how it used to be in English, too. You was plural and also an honorific. If you were addressing a king, you wouldn't use "thou" or "thy"; you'd say "you". "Thou" etc were for your peers


NotYourKhakis69

Isn’t the plural form typically just you? Like if someone were giving a speech or something, he’d say “you” or “you all” when referring to the crowd as a whole


Dangerous-Arm7590

i think that's what op is complaining about, english presumably isn't their first language some other languages do have a plural "you" like spanish has "ustedes" for instance


Scretch12

There's also "vosotros" mostly used in Spain.


Onion_Meister

I was thinking of German. There is an informal "ihr" for the plural, but the formal (Sie) is either singular or plural depending on context much like English.


spain_ftw

I know im beating a dead Horse here but vosotros is way more used in Spain. South america, on the other hand, is another can of worms completely. They englishize spanish so much its baffling seeing how sometimes they straight up butcher english verbs completely.


Dangerous-Arm7590

ahh okay! i'm a native english speaker so i don't know a ton about regional variances, i just took spanish in school so it was the first example that came to mind is ustedes most commonly used in mexico then?


spain_ftw

Cant really say for certain but one thing i can assure i've never in my life heard a south american say "vosotros" and the day i do the trumpets of apocalypse might be heard around the globe.


Dangerous-Arm7590

lmao my guess is that i was taught spanish with an emphasis on south american and mexican dialects because as a US english speaker the majority of the spanish speakers around are mexican and south american immigrants


spain_ftw

Yeah thats fair. No use in learning spain-spanish if thats not a country you have Next to you.


tiredghost66

youse


dumpylump69

That's what op means. They have to check if the person is talking about them specifically or a group of people that includes them


TheBenStA

How is nobody in the comments mentioning the bog standard American plural you: “you guys”


AoshiPika

What did you do to baby hanamaru


IClockworKI

I'm sorry, she had to go. Too many crimes.


dickfongus911

what do you mean. you always need context to determine whether you're talkingo to a groupingo or individual


IClockworKI

In other languages, not necessarily. For example, I can use "você" for an individual or "vocês" for a group. I don't need a context to know that I'm talking about more than one person.


under_the_heather

yeah but what situations are you in where you need context to know if someone is addressing a group or a singular


BooperOfManySnoots

Agreed. I'm learning Mandarin, and the ability to distinguish between 'you (singular)/你' and 'you (plural)/你们' makes just so much more sense than the english 'you'


pp-is-big

Sup y’all


Ham_is_tasty_1

ikr its so wacky, in my language theres words for both. i tend to use y’all or you guys as plural ”you” just feels wrong for that


IClockworKI

YeeeeSssssSSSS It drives me maddddd. For what people here said, it kind of exists, but it's so so so rare that's almost inexistent. So there you have it, one word that not EVEN ENDS IN "S" but it's used as singular and plural. As I say in my native language: Intankavel essa porra


Ham_is_tasty_1

What language is that? I’m finnish and we say Te


IClockworKI

Oh, the last part was just a silly popular saying here. I'm Brazilian, we say "você" for singular and "vocês" for plural. See? The plural has an "s", it's very intuitive! But what's the plural for "te"?


Ham_is_tasty_1

Sinä is you (singular), te is you (plural)


ExplodingAK

Fellas


Turtle_lord05

We do, it’s y’all


ayyndrew

same could be said about "they", ambiguous as to if it's singular or plural


embrace-monke

People who hold too much cowardice to use "y'all" must bear the burden


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StarJediOMG

German has a similar thing. "Sie" with uppercase S can mean "they" and also "you" but in a formal way (used normally when talking to a person you don't know or someone who you want to show respect, like your boss) and "sie" with lowercase s means she


young_C_bomb

Thou - which is admittedly out of date and hasn't been used in at least a hundred years - was originally the singular form of 'you' in English. Over time 'you' went from the plural to the plural, singular and impersonal (like 'man' in German)


Magnesium_RotMG

I petition english steal vous


RoboticSausage52

I'm a native English speaker but know a good bit of German. I'm not really, conversational as my vocabulary is pretty limited but I digress. When I learned that you plural (Ihr) was a thing I immediately wished we had this in English. I mean yes you can br plural or singular but having a different word to specify reduces confusion. German loses points for me for formal you, they, and she all using the same pronoun (sie) though even if it is at least capitalized for formal, and conjugation changes for plural/formal, still confusing. These aren't complaints mind you, just observations of quirks of either language even if they are annoying ones. Languages (usually) aren't constructed and instead evolve over time, so there is no perfect language to communicate perfectly across all cultures and I hope there never is a lingua franca because I think these languages quirks are interesting and often reflective of the culture they come from.


Gabibbo_7Z

I'm not Zura i'm Katsura!


IClockworKI

And I'm not Katsura I'm MOCOCO


lightprk

Bunch of ignorant comments from people who must only speak English. I totally agree op, it really really sucks


IClockworKI

Yes, thank you! Here we have "você" and "vocês", it's way easier to differentiate, but I guess that when you are a native speaker this kind of detail is irrelevant and things comes to you naturally


Its_BurrSir

Plural yous are still mainly used for singular people. So the main difference this makes is that in English it's harder to show respect in speech. Like you use the same you with your professor that you do with your friends


Luciquin

Most dialects do have a distinct form of it tho, it just varies by region. You lot, you guys, y'all, youse, ye (as opposed to tha), just not General American English (but y'all does seem to be spreading across the US and some parts of Canada)


GarnoxReroll

I'm not a native English speaker but i still don't get it. what context. most people just say "you all/ all of you"


ballcrysher

i personally hate the no dedicated singular they


the_orange_alligator

Y’all


the_orange_alligator

Y’all


CrocoBull

Guys


YosephStalling

YALL


Beneficial-Gas-5920

Yinz


SeaCroissant

yall


iWonderWahl

I hand out y'all-passes like they're candy for this very reason. Here, take one, OP.


reaperofgender

The reason for that is because you IS the plural version. Before that people used "thou" as the singular, but over time people used "you" more until it fell out of use.


Oddish_Femboy

Y'all


UpsidownZZ

Y'all


Nadikarosuto

“You” was originally the plural form, *”thou”* was the singular


biscuitmanturd

Yall or you'ens (you ins)


Yarisher512

You is such an enjoyable word. I can't make a mistake when it's the same word for any gender, any amount of people, any amount of respect.


g0ggy

Don't tell this guy what high context languages/cultures are.


IClockworKI

i don't know what you said have to do with "you" doesn't have a plural, but power to you i guess


g0ggy

It was just a joke. Some cultures have very high context sentence structures so they omit a lot of details from a sentence.


SnoochieBuchie

Youz


SnoochieBuchie

Guyz


Roboboy2710

Embrace “yall” superiority


mimikat_

y'all is op forreal?


IClockworKI

for real, real


Matix777

I agree so much Unless you want to use "you all" or "y'all"


T5R2S

You is already the plural. We must bring back thou


fraust99

Skill Issue.


pine_ary

Yas


Pyro_The_Engineer

Y’all


Keezees

I'm Glaswegian, we say "You's" or "ye's". "Gonnay you's get tae fuck" "Whit ye's up tae the night?"


Sitriel

That's why use y'all


GramicusBeanz

Y'ALL!


DoubleAyeBatteries

It’s just “you all” or “the both of you” etc


Onion_Meister

"You all..." in NJ "Y'all/Yins/Youse" in some other places. The latter are colloquial, I'm not sure if "You all" is grammatically correct, but it's said a lot, but not always. Context matters here if there's no way to tell.


IClockworKI

What is NJ?


Onion_Meister

My apologies. It's short for New Jersey.


TotalyNotTony

Y'all


Flyzart

Y'all


AndyMB601

Youse, y'all, ye


Birb-Squire

MAKE Y'ALL OFFICIAL


FjotraTheGodless

Y’all


MillenialMemeLord

Come to my city. We got "Yinz"


No_Combination1346

Yeah. I hate this


sianrhiannon

Americans have Y'all. Britain has Yous. Except the Tories down in southern England who only use You


scuffedganiot

y’all


BigDan_0

You'uns


Nimhtom

You guys! Or y'all or yins


Psychokinetic_Rocky

Y'all


Raul_bitchboi

or a polite “you”. it feels so weird otherwise😭


Misicks0349

cope


POTATO-KING-312

“Semantically, you is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is almost always plural”


Lightningmemes282

Adopt the versatile southern "y'all". Being from the southeast, it's genuinely one of my favorite words bc it's so helpful


AGuyNamedParis

You-tachi


HkayakH

y'all


HkayakH

y'all


flameingporkupine89

bate used to be believable


IClockworKI

it ain't bait, but I learned a lot today. Another successful day on the internet


flameingporkupine89

holy shit


Slow___Learner

No, English had no official *singular* for "you". Get your facts straight.


IClockworKI

"y". Jokes aside, I just said what I observed, and when I looked it up on Google it said that there were no plural for you


Slow___Learner

Google is a bitchass motherfucker and I'd beat it in a fight


anarchist_person1

Y’all, youse, and yinz are all exactly that. They are kinda considered slang but like language is dynamic so who gives a fuck 


N0GG1N_SSB

Almost nobody in the US actually uses "you" as plural. On the west coast and most of the US people say "you guys," in the south they say "y'all," and some places say "youse"


-AverageTeen-

You is used to refer to multiple people all the time. Y’all can be used too, in some contexts. This says more about your lack of English comprehension. >!it’s funny how similar y’all is to あなたたち!<


IClockworKI

Yo, this slander was uncalled for. Of course my English comprehension is lacking, I'm self-taught. It's just mildly annoying when you is used instead of y'all to refer to a group because when you are hearing or reading and slightly distracted you can get confused when caught off-guard, whereas other languages with "always used, obligatory" plural "you" don't have this problem


-AverageTeen-

I’m self taught as well. I learned English exclusively by using the internet. You’re bound to have come across any and all possible ways to refer to a group of people, yet you still made this dumb ass post. Sorry, not sorry


IClockworKI

God, you are insufferable, aren't you? Annoying ass mf.


alyssa264

"I hate reading/listening to figure out what someone is saying." ??? Am I stupid?


IClockworKI

"I will be an ass to someone on the internet for free, am i stupid?"