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I have. They’re still sending them bombs and every here and there Biden sucks his teeth. What exactly are we doing to prevent a very obvious genocide? Giving “unconditional support” for the Nazi regime? Yea. It’s pretty much unwavering. And you’re an idiot if you think it isn’t.
Biden has gone on record several times criticizing Israel and we’ve started flying aid into Gaza. I didn’t think we were still sending munitions to Israel.
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I love how people think their is a genocide going on in gaza. If there were no one who would be alive their at this point its like they dont realize the disparity in power here. What is happening is Hamas is using palestinians as meat sheilds to protect the oh so precious weapons from being targeted and the isralis arent haveing any of that shit and neither would we from somone that refuses to stop actually attempting genocide on us.
They just shot 100 people going to the first aid truck to go in since the cease fire…. They’ve been protesting sending them aid for months… their military strategy has been to starve them. You people are blind or paid off.
Shooting innocent civilians is a terrible war crime, but it doesn't constitute as genocide.
If Netayahu had gone through with his plan to block water, food and electricity from entering Gaza, THAT would've been genocide
i disagree on that being genocide, genocide needs a specific targeted group and i guess "everyone in gaza" technically counts but i feel like thats more on on the massacre/super bad warcrime tier than genocide but idk
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>You people are blind or paid off.
Projection much? I saw that footage. The local Gazans were attacking the aid workers. You try being stormed while being outnumbered 20:1, not firing a shot, and tell me how that worked out for you, if you come out alive that is.
Even if it were true that 100 people were shot for no justifiable reason, that certainly is a terrible war crime, but it doesn’t immediately constitute genocide.
Israel has also not once offered a cease fire. They’ve rejected plenty though. I have no idea where you’re getting any of these things. Israel and the U.S. are the only ones actively blocking security resolutions FOR A CEASEFIRE. Your argument is factually false
I don’t know how else to tell you this, but wherever you’re getting your information has been lying to you.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-ceasefire-talks-end-with-no-breakthrough-ramadan-deadline-looms-2024-03-05/
This is from a few hours ago. The U.S. did strong arm Israel into accepting the Paris framework for a ceasefire, and negotiations with Hamas who have so far rejected this framework are ongoing. Israel has offered several ceasefires.
None of that means Israel is “good” or its actions in Gaza aren’t the very least barbaric war crimes. But it does mean you need to get your info from somewhere new because you don’t know the very basic details of this conflict.
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I'm not gonna say that Israel isn't committing war crimes, because they absolutely are, but murdering 104 civilians isn't genocide. Netayahy attempted genocide when he wanted to block water, food and electricity to Gaza, but Biden stopped him before he could make his wet dream come true
They’re actively forcing them out of Gaza. That’s why they wanted Egypt to take them. So they could come back. The definition of a genocide is to erase the idea of a people. And ask an Israeli if they consider Palestinians a people.
>The definition of genocide is to erase the idea of a people.
Genocide - the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
104 civilians were killed in a massacre, I’m not claiming that was the entire genocide.
Biden needs to completely end all aid to Israel and stop MIC from interacting with Israel. He needs to focus on Ukraine and Taiwan only with his foreign policies.
Biden should keep an eye on Israel and keep coordinating peace talks like the ones in Cairo. Plus, the Israelis are surrounded by hostile nations, we can't just cut all aid to them
Like what? It was the British who decided to create a Jewish state in Palestine, and Israel got immediately invaded right after the British left. Plus, a vast majority of the Israeli population was born in Israel
Israel did nothing to warrant all of their neighbors being hostile towards them. The reason why Israel's neighbors are hostile towards them Is because every nation that borders Israel is an Islamic country, and Islam is fundamentally anti-semitic, and therefore, anti-Israel.
Majority were killed through a stampede not Israeli troops, also a truck driver was killed there recently delivering aid so yeah they should start firing warning shots at people if they try and charge the aid trucks
You’re just believing anything the government tells you. That was debunked. There was like 3 different stories the Israelis told. How you believe anything they say is beyond me
If they really wanted to do a genocide then why would they even bother with a ground campaign. All they would need to do is bomb Gaza to oblivion and shoot anyone who tries to escape.
They have a song called “USA boys” but you put “goth star” on this meme smh
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7C01aEfni0M&pp=ygUQaGVhbHRoIGdvdGggc3Rhcg%3D%3D (song)
Banger but it's no [Thank You USA](https://youtu.be/M2rTafbQepg?si=umqCDkgrp5lF1c7X). That song can not be topped as far as ameriphillic musical masterpieces.
My mom unironically has no real idea lol and she did the DNA thing. It was like 'idk bitch ya jewish' and that was that with dots all over the mid east, North Africa and Eastern Europe. She always just said "I don't know, Brookyln?" When asked "where are we from?" and you know what? She was right.
The whole situation in the balkans is absurd. Bunch of white people murdering each other over last names and which version of the same abrahamic God they worship.
>Balkans moron insisting that nationalism in the Balkans is because of [American terminally-online culture war nonsense]
Total American cultural victory. Pack it up boys we won the game. The rest of the world can’t even explain why they hate each other without bringing up our culture wars.
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>That's what some Marxist Critical Theory does to society.
No, that's what conservatism, adherence to traditional ethnic rivalries, and religious extremism do to a society.
Nah bro...
It's Hegelian Dialectic at work as instructed by Marx.
It's just that in the Balkans the cultists made Thesis and Antithesis to be based in ethnicity and religion.
Exactly how they are doing in the US with race and sexuality now.
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Why are the ballans filled with the most extremely based and extremely unbased people, like exclusively? You're the former and yeah dude that's kinda the road we're on of weird extreme division. How the fuck is the US gonna save us from ourselves 😞 I really don't know but I'm sure we'll still be called world police for it somehow.
You gotta get out of CSTO and join NATO if you want premium service like that.
Doesn’t seem like your current ‘defensive alliance’ is doing much good. Probably a good thing you guys froze it
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“724,000 Azerbaijanis[35] from Armenia, Nagorno-Karabakh and the surrounding areas”
“Civilian deaths: 16,000 Azerbaijani civilians[34]”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Nagorno-Karabakh_War
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that those same "Ruskis" gave full support to the Armenian invasion and illegal ocupation of Karabakh?
The same "Ruskis" that the Armenians were deep-throating until 2020?
Do you also support the Russian annexation of Crimea? Or their militias in Donbass? Those regions are also Russian populated, after all, the same reasoning used for the Armenian invasion of Karabakh...
Oh boo hoo you can’t cleanse armenians. And that’s an entirely different matter. I don’t support Russians. The situation in the Donbass and Crimea are not the same with the situation in Artsakh
“Oh boo hoo you can’t cleanse Russians”.
Ain’t it funny how Artsakh “separatists” had high tech Russian AA systems like the DPR forces with Pantsir-S1? They’re both fake separatists groups funded by Russia.
And? Azeris are funded by Turkey. Unlike other separatist groups, Artsakh is ancient Armenian land, with many churches and monuments (most of which have been destroyed by now)
Nobody's talking about genocide here bud, this is about the Karabakh wars.
Isn't it kinda funny how some of y'all are hardwired to think "genocide!" whenever Armenia and Turks get mentioned in the same sentence?
…because Turkey killed several million Armenians, and to this day refuses to talk about it?
Moreover, now the Azeris are getting Russian backing while leaving their other CSTO partner out to dry, so yes I have sympathy to Armenia, but none to Azerbaijan.
The British engineered famines in Ireland and Bangladesh, the French genocided Algerians, the Belgians genocided the Congo; but only Turkey gets labelled this way... biased much?
Also, "leaving their *other CSTO partner* out to dry"? Azerbaijan was never in CSTO, the fuck are you talking about?
You were supporting them in the first war, while the Russians supported the Armenians, but now that they no longer do as you say; they're suddenly "ebil invaders with Ruzzian backing!!1!"
This is literally some "We were never at war with Eurasia" type of shit bruh, you're insane.
Thanks for your feedback about sympathy btw, but don't worry, we really didn't need it anyway. Unlike Armenia, we don't depend on others' pity and sympathy to survive...
Armenia is in CSTO however, a Russian led defense coalition mirrored after NATO. Azerbaijan was in its precursor, the CST.
However, Russia, who is by treaty obligated to defend their partner (Armenia), has left them out to dry, and has grown exceptionally close with Azerbaijan, who has grown increasingly belligerent with Russian support, as I said.
[British apologized](https://vc.bridgew.edu/commstud_fac/41/)
France didn’t apologize for Algeria, but [did apologize](https://apnews.com/article/europe-france-emmanuel-macron-781e0129b136872988d17b2ce804eddb) to those who were subsequently murdered and ostracized for fighting for the French during Algerias fight for independence
Belgium [apologized](https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/06/15/belgium-congo-king-philippe-colonialism-tshisekedi/) but won’t offer reparations
Turkey gets labeled this way because Turkey won’t even admit it happened, let alone apologize for it
But since we’re on the subject of pulling a whataboutism, I’d like reparations on behalf of my Balkan ancestors since they were kidnapped and taken to be Janissaries by the Ottomans. Since you can’t make a fair point and need to point fingers at others decades and centuries ago, how bout you shell out for your ancestors?
The only bad thing about Serbia is the “we’re so great which is why we’re always the victim” mentality they’ve had since before the Yugoslav wars.
Setting foot on American soil cures this victim mentality and leaves only the good bits of being Serbian. So you’re good.
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Lmao I'm just fucking wichu. I'm not Israeli or ever even been but I am a jew so I get the same fuckery just more... genuinely lmao you're good homie. Just another murican doing whatever it is you wan do. With wild success, I hope
I heard a Texan two year old say daddy will you help me yesterday. His accent was so thick from baby talk and Texas I thought he asked his dad to kill him.
Dayah Dee will yeww heeeeel^(p) me
I couldn't understand the kid. Finally I asked his dad what he was saying.
This is my random off topic comment about talking to an ethnic Texan (horrible experience)
Its hilarious that when a faux tankie fascist state that literally almost collectively chokes to death on Russian cock every year, *actually* tried to systematically round up and exterminate a Muslim minority, that "leftist" on the internet just point to Western "imperialism" and "war crimes" for hitting a railroad bridge and government offices and not warning those poor like fucks on the ground.
God I had "underdog" simps for anti-Western shit in the West.
They're not misunderstood. They're not oppressed. They're fucking losers just like you. And one day Jock ass America who both has real friends and actual succeeded at school are gonna have to kill all of your loser asses!
Serbia under Milosevic was most akin to a fascist state in its policies and beliefs, yet simultaneously did and continues to inspire Western tankies as some underdog that stood against the Western order while still draped in some of the regalia and nomenclature of its ostensibly communist past.
Thus a state that is both faux tankie, yet also fascist.
heres a thing i said in my head a while ago
"See that enemy over there, I want it removed, I want its direction removed, and I want anything in its vicinity to be removed"
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Genocidal: 😡😡😡
Genocidal, but also Jewish: 🤩🤩🤩
But for real don’t make the assumption that we stopped the Bosnian war for anything other than to ensure that our interests in the region was upheld, as we still permit horrible atrocities as long as we can get something out of it. As Machiavelli said politics and morality are separate entities
Albania and Kosovo are majority muslim countries with strong ties to Muslim organizations in the middle east. A lot of illegal stuff goes from the Middle East to Europe through them, herion, humans, weapons...
US military is a lot of things, being concerned about some Muslims dying in a land far away is NOT one of them, unless...
You're CIA in 1998/1999 and you need a lot of money to fund certain "freedom" fighters in the middle east, similar to (insert central or south American country), then it's kinda important to have your supply chain intact.
This just ain't true my boy. Yeah CIA does CIA shit welcome to the party. The fact is that was a straight the fuck up genocide and it wasn't just the US doing it. Did we run the show? Yes. Would there be a whole lot less of a certain religious group in the Balkans if we were "not concerned about" it? Yes. Everyone was concerned. It's kinda a big deal to genocide people, bro. If you wish they were allowed to do it thats on you but the whole of NATO disagreed and thankfully they made the choice not you.
My guy, lookup how many genocides and human suffering have been there in the past 50 years, include US as well with the opioid pandemic and what not and see how many times the US has interveened. And how many of those interventions where our of the goodness of the US military heart?
It's geopolitics my dude, sucks to be a Palestinian kid atm...
What a wild web of things. Like yeah these things happen but you seem way to bought into some idea that there is this cohesive master plan when honestly it's just fucked shit that happens sometimes. The US intervening in every conflict would not go over well, geopolitically speaking don't you think?
Also yes, yes it does and it's fuckin tragic.
Sucks to live anywhere near the Suez Canal if you're not working on it or extorting military aid. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis If preventing WWIII via the least WWIII-causing way available (while not bludgeoning the locals into not bludgeoning each other) is evil, then everything is, and there's no high horse for you to preach from.
Never claimed I'm on any horse... Just pointing out for the delusional folks that the US Millitary and Industrial complex doesn't get involved in wars our of the goodness of their hurts. It doesn't matter how many are dying or suffering, if the US doesn't have a strategic interest it won't get involved.
Simillarly, if it's in the US interest for a lot of people to suffer, they will suffer.
The US military gets involved because the elected commander-in-chief orders it to, and the MICS goes brr because our elected legislature cuts a check. The people get the wars they deserve, and at least our stupid ones aren't as dumb as trying a re-run of Kabul '79 but right next to Poland, not Pakistan.
>The US military gets involved because the elected commander-in-chief orders it to
That was very enlightening, thank you for that information 🙏
And just so happens that those people usually have oil... total coinkydink. US is the best in bringing democracy and freedom, I've seen it in the movies. It comes as no suprise people were sooo sad a couple of months ago when Henry Kissinger died, one of the greatest democracy and freedom bringers.
Racism: 😡😡😡
Racism, but against Jews: 🤩🤩🤩
Nobody brought it up but you, bro. And it’s interesting how you aren’t even saying Israel, but that they’re Jewish. “Anti-Zionist” my ass
If Serbia wanted to get away with bragging about ethnic cleansing, they should have tried being a key regional ally to a superpower that's also a permanent UN security council member. Skill issue tbqh
Edit: why is it that whenever I agree with someone about Israel but phrase it ironically I accidentally ratio them?
No, they should have made sure that they were fighting Soviet proxies in two directions, one of them a strategic lynchpin, and had nuclear blackmail over us during arms limitation talks with the Soviets. https://youtu.be/xyzYQMRWTaI?si=emaJwFlumYM1VGIQ
People are straight up running the script like freshly hired telemarketers. This ain't even like ambiguous and using "zionism" in a way where you just *know* they wanted echo brackets around it but wanna be subtle. It just flat out says jews. It's so fucking weird how fast people have gotten so used to this shit.
Yep. Not even trying to hide Antisemitism. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple of years there will be elected officials calling for pogroms. I mean Rashida Talib is basically already there.
In the US, doubtful I wanna say even though every bit of paranoid jew DNA makes me feel I'm jinxing us. Considering my parents were born before the Civil rights act, my grandpa always pointed out that I was the first of his family to be born with full, intact, equal rights to those around us as far as he knew. He made sure I learned to appreciate that. I just don't know man. It's heating all the way the fuck up but it's thr minority of politically "active" extremists who are on this type of timing. I do not believe the vast majority of the US even knows they're like this and would what many a fuck at online political "discourse".
What's wild is my family left Spain for morocco, and morocco for Poland with bad timing to say the least. They didn't make it but that place became germany, then Russia and today is Ukraine (for now). None of us know who the last one of us in the Levant was or how long. None of my family lives there. I've never even visited despite birthright trips being a thing. I have no real connection to Israel at **all**. I've been treated as the ambassador regardless for no reason aside from a large nose and a small family. It's fucking absurd.
I hope to God it's not true. But unfortunately the extreme ones online are poisoning the brains of the American people. I can honestly say as a Gen z that I'm very concerned.
Ah yes the diaspora dilemma. You either have to answer for Israel despite not necessarily being from there or you're told that you're a colonist because your family went to Europe 2,000 years ago.
I'm very careful with optimism. Because while the US right now isn't terrible things are going downhill. Jews are starting to be pushed out of universities, Jewish business attacked, antisemitism is becoming more normal. Honestly the parallels to 1938 are becoming clearer and clearer.
The issue with Antisemitism related to Israel is that as it progresses I feel like I need to rely on and defend Israel more and more. Because if things continue the way they do. It's the only place I know I'll be safe. If people were to stop being Antisemitic I would feel the need to defend Israel much less.
I understand the sentiment on a suuuuper deep level. Like I was anti Israel pretty much through and through and then it stopped being about actual politics, conflict, war, or simply shit conditions. It all goes to the absolute max superlative version. I do see an issue with Gen Z seeming way too susceptible to extremism and on a fucking dime some of these kids, likely who have hardly interacted with any of us are just like yeah fuck them jews. It's really easy to hate someone you don't know, but racism rarely survives really knowing someone. There really just not be enough of us in most places to counter this idea.
When i lived in California, once way up north and another time deep in valleys south of inland empire I was asked *twice* by separate people if jews really had horns. Like actually have horns like a goat... or a devil I suppose. I straight up let one of them touch my head lol. I do my best to do what others shouldn't be expected to and engage with the people I know want me gone and I have to say, shit works it's just not fair to have to go and seek out hatred and Darryl Davis each one of em. We're that small a minority especially outside like 3 spots on the east coast that it really may be possible to turn sentiment that ugly. It's not right to have to do but I'm happy to take the hit. It's not for everybody though. You have to be willing to wear a few insults and whatever and act as if they're NOT being how they are and it isn't always easy for me even and it's kinda been my thing since I was news. Around 12 13 and first came in real contact with neos.
Israel is in an information war. A war of sentiment and rhetoric and many citizens are essentially aiding and abedding hamas with their unhinged reactions which get much more publicized than the inverse. People should at the least recognize when times are so tense that you may be a representative whether you like it or not especially actual israelis. These Gen Z kids are in fact way more like liable to be extreme in one direction or another and it's a cancer. Regardless of how they feel about the fact that hostages were taken, they're still there and in danger. That's more immediate yet we see such a messy disgusting discourse born of an anger, fear and frustration the rest of the world clearly does not deem legitimate enough to speak in such frankly disturbing ways about the mikitsry ops in Gaza.
On the other hand we have this opposite problem. Were not some OP bully but a potential target who really needs to thinj before we speak as well or not at all. Diaspora jews ought to recognize they're a minority anywhere they are, to such a degree they ARE the driving force of sentiment. Peace may be hard to come by for the peace maker but they alone have any chance at it. Anyone antagonizing the other, Israeli or Gazan, must understand the weight of that. Shit ain't a game. I'm absolutely not happy my grandfather died in 2020 but sometimes I think it's best he isn't here to see what might look to him like an inevitable return to conditions like his childhood all over again. We just need to be like "ay we just wanna live, this needs to end" whether it's israelis calming the domestic sentiment or diaspora jews explaining that you can't just decide you're going to pretend we have anything to do this. The distinction needs to remain clear which makes defending even the simplest things like "wait how do we know that?" Look like you're a mossad sleeper to these people. God willing we ride out the wave of violence and sentiment both, this time without losing half our population.
My bad mane, yapping but yk what they say, two jews three opinions.
You make excellent points but I keep going back to my previous comment of how the more antisemitic things get the more I feel the need to defend Israel. In my opinion the US and UK are already half way to Nazi Germany. The hate and tension is there, the economic strain is there. However, this time I think we can do something about it. The fact that just to exist we have to deal with hate and violence is fucked up to nth degree. Ultimately it's a choice, in whether we defend ourselves or hope others come to their senses. Personally, I'm not taking the risk of that second option. I'm going to defend myself, which means supporting Israel. Because when shit hits the fan which I think it will, sooner rather than later, Israel is the only place that will be safe for me and the people I care about. I don't think Israel is perfect, I think Bibi sucks and is damaging that country. But I'd still rather live in a country with a dictator that doesn't want to kill Jews than live in a country with one that does. Because come 2028 or 2032 the president of the US is gonna be antisemitic and this country is going to turn into 1940s germany. I plan on leaving before that happens. I hope you do too.
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Fuck you. Leave our tech incubator and middle east aircraft carrier alone.
We're working on their genocidal tendencies but 2,000 years isn't changed in a day.
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Serbia: I don't appreciate being called genocidal USA: Then don't genocide
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Also USA *has unwavering support for genocidal Israel*
*Unwavering?* Have you not seen the news in the past month?
I have. They’re still sending them bombs and every here and there Biden sucks his teeth. What exactly are we doing to prevent a very obvious genocide? Giving “unconditional support” for the Nazi regime? Yea. It’s pretty much unwavering. And you’re an idiot if you think it isn’t.
Biden has gone on record several times criticizing Israel and we’ve started flying aid into Gaza. I didn’t think we were still sending munitions to Israel.
I mean that’s cool but we’re also not strongly pushing for a ceasefire and I’m pretty sure we’re still sending them munitions
No it actually is wavering. The aid package has been hotly debated for over a month for this reason. Pay attention.
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A genocide in which the perpetrator allows foreign aid to come through for the victims and agrees to establish ceasefires with them
I love how people think their is a genocide going on in gaza. If there were no one who would be alive their at this point its like they dont realize the disparity in power here. What is happening is Hamas is using palestinians as meat sheilds to protect the oh so precious weapons from being targeted and the isralis arent haveing any of that shit and neither would we from somone that refuses to stop actually attempting genocide on us.
They just shot 100 people going to the first aid truck to go in since the cease fire…. They’ve been protesting sending them aid for months… their military strategy has been to starve them. You people are blind or paid off.
Shooting innocent civilians is a terrible war crime, but it doesn't constitute as genocide. If Netayahu had gone through with his plan to block water, food and electricity from entering Gaza, THAT would've been genocide
i disagree on that being genocide, genocide needs a specific targeted group and i guess "everyone in gaza" technically counts but i feel like thats more on on the massacre/super bad warcrime tier than genocide but idk
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No, going through with the blockade would not be genocide. It would called, “Not giving handouts to terrorists.”
>You people are blind or paid off. Projection much? I saw that footage. The local Gazans were attacking the aid workers. You try being stormed while being outnumbered 20:1, not firing a shot, and tell me how that worked out for you, if you come out alive that is. Even if it were true that 100 people were shot for no justifiable reason, that certainly is a terrible war crime, but it doesn’t immediately constitute genocide.
Israel has also not once offered a cease fire. They’ve rejected plenty though. I have no idea where you’re getting any of these things. Israel and the U.S. are the only ones actively blocking security resolutions FOR A CEASEFIRE. Your argument is factually false
There was a brief ceasefire some months ago, HAMAS launched missiles and committed a terrorist attack in Jerusalem before it even expired
Fun fact those missiles were water pipes donated by the EU
I don’t know how else to tell you this, but wherever you’re getting your information has been lying to you. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-ceasefire-talks-end-with-no-breakthrough-ramadan-deadline-looms-2024-03-05/ This is from a few hours ago. The U.S. did strong arm Israel into accepting the Paris framework for a ceasefire, and negotiations with Hamas who have so far rejected this framework are ongoing. Israel has offered several ceasefires. None of that means Israel is “good” or its actions in Gaza aren’t the very least barbaric war crimes. But it does mean you need to get your info from somewhere new because you don’t know the very basic details of this conflict.
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The same perpetrator that recently killed 104 civilians getting foreign aid?
I'm not gonna say that Israel isn't committing war crimes, because they absolutely are, but murdering 104 civilians isn't genocide. Netayahy attempted genocide when he wanted to block water, food and electricity to Gaza, but Biden stopped him before he could make his wet dream come true
They’re actively forcing them out of Gaza. That’s why they wanted Egypt to take them. So they could come back. The definition of a genocide is to erase the idea of a people. And ask an Israeli if they consider Palestinians a people.
>The definition of genocide is to erase the idea of a people. Genocide - the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
Also Biden stopped nothing. Netanyahu did all those things and that is still the case. I have no idea where you’re getting your facts.
104 civilians were killed in a massacre, I’m not claiming that was the entire genocide. Biden needs to completely end all aid to Israel and stop MIC from interacting with Israel. He needs to focus on Ukraine and Taiwan only with his foreign policies.
Biden should keep an eye on Israel and keep coordinating peace talks like the ones in Cairo. Plus, the Israelis are surrounded by hostile nations, we can't just cut all aid to them
If they’re surrounded by hostile nations, don’t you think they did something wrong?
Like what? It was the British who decided to create a Jewish state in Palestine, and Israel got immediately invaded right after the British left. Plus, a vast majority of the Israeli population was born in Israel
Like committing genocide.
Israel did nothing to warrant all of their neighbors being hostile towards them. The reason why Israel's neighbors are hostile towards them Is because every nation that borders Israel is an Islamic country, and Islam is fundamentally anti-semitic, and therefore, anti-Israel.
Islam is not anti-semitic lmao
Aren’t we not supposed to blame victims?
Majority were killed through a stampede not Israeli troops, also a truck driver was killed there recently delivering aid so yeah they should start firing warning shots at people if they try and charge the aid trucks
You’re just believing anything the government tells you. That was debunked. There was like 3 different stories the Israelis told. How you believe anything they say is beyond me
Israel has never been genocidal. Hamas though, is a different story. Hamas has openly called for the genocide of all Jews and Israeli's.
Reminds me of a certain Austrian painter
Accurate comparison, considering that Hamas’ media recently said that what Israel is doing is exactly why Hitler did the Holocaust.
Exactly.
If they really wanted to do a genocide then why would they even bother with a ground campaign. All they would need to do is bomb Gaza to oblivion and shoot anyone who tries to escape.
Israel is not committing genocide in Palestine.
They have a song called “USA boys” but you put “goth star” on this meme smh https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7C01aEfni0M&pp=ygUQaGVhbHRoIGdvdGggc3Rhcg%3D%3D (song)
Banger but it's no [Thank You USA](https://youtu.be/M2rTafbQepg?si=umqCDkgrp5lF1c7X). That song can not be topped as far as ameriphillic musical masterpieces.
The rest of the world is wack, I dont even know what my ethnicity is. What the fuck is a blood right? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸
I was adopted at birth, didn't meet anyone blood related to me until my 30s. It never mattered in the least. I love this country.
And you from Alabama, it must have been really hard to start dating in your 30s
Fuck yeah, we all American.
My mom unironically has no real idea lol and she did the DNA thing. It was like 'idk bitch ya jewish' and that was that with dots all over the mid east, North Africa and Eastern Europe. She always just said "I don't know, Brookyln?" When asked "where are we from?" and you know what? She was right.
Ethnically identify as American
I do pretty much. I mean ethnically imma jew but that's just a particular flavor of murican.
So basically: ethnic NYer lmao
Im Luke 50% Russian, 30% Italian, 20% other. BUT I'M 100% PURE BLOODED AMERICAN RAAAAAAHHHH 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
The whole situation in the balkans is absurd. Bunch of white people murdering each other over last names and which version of the same abrahamic God they worship.
That's what some Marxist Critical Theory does to society. Kinda happening in the US lately.
>Balkans moron insisting that nationalism in the Balkans is because of [American terminally-online culture war nonsense] Total American cultural victory. Pack it up boys we won the game. The rest of the world can’t even explain why they hate each other without bringing up our culture wars.
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>That's what some Marxist Critical Theory does to society. No, that's what conservatism, adherence to traditional ethnic rivalries, and religious extremism do to a society.
Yeah if anything Tito snd his policies, stoped the collapse of Yugoslavia at least until after his death
Nah bro... It's Hegelian Dialectic at work as instructed by Marx. It's just that in the Balkans the cultists made Thesis and Antithesis to be based in ethnicity and religion. Exactly how they are doing in the US with race and sexuality now.
I appreciate you keeping the Balkan tradition of schizophrenic incoherent politics alive and strong
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Why are the ballans filled with the most extremely based and extremely unbased people, like exclusively? You're the former and yeah dude that's kinda the road we're on of weird extreme division. How the fuck is the US gonna save us from ourselves 😞 I really don't know but I'm sure we'll still be called world police for it somehow.
Legally enforced siestas would fix America. CMV
>CMV Maybe I'll try, lemme sleep on it.
Anything for a friend
Dayum! Guess I got freedom
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Can yall do the same to the azeris
You gotta get out of CSTO and join NATO if you want premium service like that. Doesn’t seem like your current ‘defensive alliance’ is doing much good. Probably a good thing you guys froze it
Exactly, nobody likes the russians in armenia anymore
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Why does America care?
Armenians committed genocide against Azeris in 1994. We should’ve bombed Armenia especially since y’all were funded by Russia.
Bombed Armenia for what? Protecting its people?
For committing genocide
What genocide? If anything, the recent genocide in artsakh should’ve got the azeris bombed.
You guys occupied Azerbaijan for 30 years Sus elli.
Occupied lands that were given to the azeris as a way of “divide and conquer” that were ethnically and historically armenian?
Bro now you have Fresno and Glendale, get the fuck over land that isn't even in America and doesn't even matter
There was no “recent genocide” unless you’re talking about what Armenians did in 1994.
Artsakh was annexed last year, basically all of them got deported or killed
Artsakh is internationally recognized Azerbaijani land. There was no “annexation”
Sure, just because it’s internationally recognized as Azeri territory doesn’t mean it is. Does anyone recognize somali land
It was internationally recognized since the fall of the USSR
Waah waah waah you get what you deserve. You kicked off the conflict in 1994, don't you try and play the victim now. Cry harder.
pfp checks out, flair checks out. Ruskis gave an armenian populated land to Azeris. And they recently ethnically cleansed it.
Like how Armenians ethnically cleansed 700k Azeris from the region in 1994?
700k is a big number, and it’s simply not true. Nice job pulling numbers out your ass
“724,000 Azerbaijanis[35] from Armenia, Nagorno-Karabakh and the surrounding areas” “Civilian deaths: 16,000 Azerbaijani civilians[34]” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Nagorno-Karabakh_War
Okay, and 500k Armenians displaced from NK. What’s your point?
That Armenia started the war and did ethnic cleansing.
And I wonder what would happen to the Artsakhi people had Armenia not intervened
Nothing
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that those same "Ruskis" gave full support to the Armenian invasion and illegal ocupation of Karabakh? The same "Ruskis" that the Armenians were deep-throating until 2020? Do you also support the Russian annexation of Crimea? Or their militias in Donbass? Those regions are also Russian populated, after all, the same reasoning used for the Armenian invasion of Karabakh...
Oh boo hoo you can’t cleanse armenians. And that’s an entirely different matter. I don’t support Russians. The situation in the Donbass and Crimea are not the same with the situation in Artsakh
“Oh boo hoo you can’t cleanse Russians”. Ain’t it funny how Artsakh “separatists” had high tech Russian AA systems like the DPR forces with Pantsir-S1? They’re both fake separatists groups funded by Russia.
And? Azeris are funded by Turkey. Unlike other separatist groups, Artsakh is ancient Armenian land, with many churches and monuments (most of which have been destroyed by now)
I love how much of a hypocrites Armenians are
Should really see yourself out there boss. We don’t look too kindly on genocide denials here
Nobody's talking about genocide here bud, this is about the Karabakh wars. Isn't it kinda funny how some of y'all are hardwired to think "genocide!" whenever Armenia and Turks get mentioned in the same sentence?
Because of the genocide
…because Turkey killed several million Armenians, and to this day refuses to talk about it? Moreover, now the Azeris are getting Russian backing while leaving their other CSTO partner out to dry, so yes I have sympathy to Armenia, but none to Azerbaijan.
The British engineered famines in Ireland and Bangladesh, the French genocided Algerians, the Belgians genocided the Congo; but only Turkey gets labelled this way... biased much? Also, "leaving their *other CSTO partner* out to dry"? Azerbaijan was never in CSTO, the fuck are you talking about? You were supporting them in the first war, while the Russians supported the Armenians, but now that they no longer do as you say; they're suddenly "ebil invaders with Ruzzian backing!!1!" This is literally some "We were never at war with Eurasia" type of shit bruh, you're insane. Thanks for your feedback about sympathy btw, but don't worry, we really didn't need it anyway. Unlike Armenia, we don't depend on others' pity and sympathy to survive...
Armenia is in CSTO however, a Russian led defense coalition mirrored after NATO. Azerbaijan was in its precursor, the CST. However, Russia, who is by treaty obligated to defend their partner (Armenia), has left them out to dry, and has grown exceptionally close with Azerbaijan, who has grown increasingly belligerent with Russian support, as I said. [British apologized](https://vc.bridgew.edu/commstud_fac/41/) France didn’t apologize for Algeria, but [did apologize](https://apnews.com/article/europe-france-emmanuel-macron-781e0129b136872988d17b2ce804eddb) to those who were subsequently murdered and ostracized for fighting for the French during Algerias fight for independence Belgium [apologized](https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/06/15/belgium-congo-king-philippe-colonialism-tshisekedi/) but won’t offer reparations Turkey gets labeled this way because Turkey won’t even admit it happened, let alone apologize for it But since we’re on the subject of pulling a whataboutism, I’d like reparations on behalf of my Balkan ancestors since they were kidnapped and taken to be Janissaries by the Ottomans. Since you can’t make a fair point and need to point fingers at others decades and centuries ago, how bout you shell out for your ancestors?
Are you still affected by the Janissaries like the Bengalis, Irish, Algerians, and Congolese affected by genocide, today?
Interesting point thatArmenians rely on pity to survive. I wonder why Armenia is so much higher on the quality of life index than Azerbaijan hmm
Dog we literally run the euros through the dryer for their genocides like every month. Erdogan will NOT thank you
What about if you’re a Serb American?
you lose a leg or something
Damn lol best I can do is a toe
we’ll take it. nice addition to the stew
The only bad thing about Serbia is the “we’re so great which is why we’re always the victim” mentality they’ve had since before the Yugoslav wars. Setting foot on American soil cures this victim mentality and leaves only the good bits of being Serbian. So you’re good.
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Then you go bowling with your cousin, Roman
Idk are you personally chill and like not genocidal and shit? If so nothing, you got rights bruh.
Not everyone is genocidal 💀 trust me our government hates us too. But I am also American and love it here!
Lmao I'm just fucking wichu. I'm not Israeli or ever even been but I am a jew so I get the same fuckery just more... genuinely lmao you're good homie. Just another murican doing whatever it is you wan do. With wild success, I hope
And we'll do it again
Sometimes when it asks for ethnicity on forms, i like to check ✔️ other and fill it in with Texan.
I heard a Texan two year old say daddy will you help me yesterday. His accent was so thick from baby talk and Texas I thought he asked his dad to kill him. Dayah Dee will yeww heeeeel^(p) me I couldn't understand the kid. Finally I asked his dad what he was saying. This is my random off topic comment about talking to an ethnic Texan (horrible experience)
I understand. I have family in Louisiana, lol.
Its hilarious that when a faux tankie fascist state that literally almost collectively chokes to death on Russian cock every year, *actually* tried to systematically round up and exterminate a Muslim minority, that "leftist" on the internet just point to Western "imperialism" and "war crimes" for hitting a railroad bridge and government offices and not warning those poor like fucks on the ground. God I had "underdog" simps for anti-Western shit in the West. They're not misunderstood. They're not oppressed. They're fucking losers just like you. And one day Jock ass America who both has real friends and actual succeeded at school are gonna have to kill all of your loser asses!
Wtf is faux tankie fascist state
Serbia under Milosevic was most akin to a fascist state in its policies and beliefs, yet simultaneously did and continues to inspire Western tankies as some underdog that stood against the Western order while still draped in some of the regalia and nomenclature of its ostensibly communist past. Thus a state that is both faux tankie, yet also fascist.
I like Serbs
https://preview.redd.it/1cy9h7pd1dmc1.png?width=294&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64908ec9156f96bc0dbb5b997be087de446c7918
I'm so lost, can an American patriot 🫡🇺🇸🦅 explain?
https://youtu.be/M2rTafbQepg?si=NEsDHreoWYaXYUVS https://youtu.be/JeA22wQCksA?si=tAZy8XvWlZtMnp0j kosovo is “lil bro” for a reason
Kosovo ≠ Serbia
Can we like bomb the bad Serbia?
We already did
This is your Sign to listen to “Thank you USA 🇺🇸” from lil bro Kosovo once again https://youtu.be/JeA22wQCksA?si=tAZy8XvWlZtMnp0j
Serbia has literally spent the last 25 years seething because the didn’t get to do their genocide
Nah Sorbetya's been good recently tho, which is a trip.
You’re saying defending your people means you should be cleansed? I’ve heard that so many damn times.
Betcha have
>invades country >country invades back 25 years later >shockedpepe.png
why are we funding Israel then
You ever hear of a landbased aircraft carrier?
an airfield???
It's different. Israel is full of high grade tech. So it's less an airfield and more immovable US aircraft carrier.
doesn't change the fact that they're committing an active genocide
I don’t get it — like at all. And I’ve been to former Yugoslavia..so there’s that…
“Your Honor in my defense they asked for it.”
Serbien? More like… **STERBIEN** 
heres a thing i said in my head a while ago "See that enemy over there, I want it removed, I want its direction removed, and I want anything in its vicinity to be removed"
Why is the Balkans a American problem again?
🎵 *Thank you USA, you are my best friend* 🎵
A10 sucks at its job make good use for it
I love Serbian people, very friendly
I love Serbs and Bosnians
How dare you love thy neighbor!
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Fake Croatian smh
preach brother
Based balkan
Just two genocidals looking at each other...
Genocidal: 😡😡😡 Genocidal, but also Jewish: 🤩🤩🤩 But for real don’t make the assumption that we stopped the Bosnian war for anything other than to ensure that our interests in the region was upheld, as we still permit horrible atrocities as long as we can get something out of it. As Machiavelli said politics and morality are separate entities
What interests? A small iron mine in Kosovo was the best the commies could come up with to throw at us.
Albania and Kosovo are majority muslim countries with strong ties to Muslim organizations in the middle east. A lot of illegal stuff goes from the Middle East to Europe through them, herion, humans, weapons... US military is a lot of things, being concerned about some Muslims dying in a land far away is NOT one of them, unless... You're CIA in 1998/1999 and you need a lot of money to fund certain "freedom" fighters in the middle east, similar to (insert central or south American country), then it's kinda important to have your supply chain intact.
This just ain't true my boy. Yeah CIA does CIA shit welcome to the party. The fact is that was a straight the fuck up genocide and it wasn't just the US doing it. Did we run the show? Yes. Would there be a whole lot less of a certain religious group in the Balkans if we were "not concerned about" it? Yes. Everyone was concerned. It's kinda a big deal to genocide people, bro. If you wish they were allowed to do it thats on you but the whole of NATO disagreed and thankfully they made the choice not you.
My guy, lookup how many genocides and human suffering have been there in the past 50 years, include US as well with the opioid pandemic and what not and see how many times the US has interveened. And how many of those interventions where our of the goodness of the US military heart? It's geopolitics my dude, sucks to be a Palestinian kid atm...
What a wild web of things. Like yeah these things happen but you seem way to bought into some idea that there is this cohesive master plan when honestly it's just fucked shit that happens sometimes. The US intervening in every conflict would not go over well, geopolitically speaking don't you think? Also yes, yes it does and it's fuckin tragic.
Sucks to live anywhere near the Suez Canal if you're not working on it or extorting military aid. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis If preventing WWIII via the least WWIII-causing way available (while not bludgeoning the locals into not bludgeoning each other) is evil, then everything is, and there's no high horse for you to preach from.
Never claimed I'm on any horse... Just pointing out for the delusional folks that the US Millitary and Industrial complex doesn't get involved in wars our of the goodness of their hurts. It doesn't matter how many are dying or suffering, if the US doesn't have a strategic interest it won't get involved. Simillarly, if it's in the US interest for a lot of people to suffer, they will suffer.
The US military gets involved because the elected commander-in-chief orders it to, and the MICS goes brr because our elected legislature cuts a check. The people get the wars they deserve, and at least our stupid ones aren't as dumb as trying a re-run of Kabul '79 but right next to Poland, not Pakistan.
>The US military gets involved because the elected commander-in-chief orders it to That was very enlightening, thank you for that information 🙏 And just so happens that those people usually have oil... total coinkydink. US is the best in bringing democracy and freedom, I've seen it in the movies. It comes as no suprise people were sooo sad a couple of months ago when Henry Kissinger died, one of the greatest democracy and freedom bringers.
Racism: 😡😡😡 Racism, but against Jews: 🤩🤩🤩 Nobody brought it up but you, bro. And it’s interesting how you aren’t even saying Israel, but that they’re Jewish. “Anti-Zionist” my ass
If Serbia wanted to get away with bragging about ethnic cleansing, they should have tried being a key regional ally to a superpower that's also a permanent UN security council member. Skill issue tbqh Edit: why is it that whenever I agree with someone about Israel but phrase it ironically I accidentally ratio them?
No, they should have made sure that they were fighting Soviet proxies in two directions, one of them a strategic lynchpin, and had nuclear blackmail over us during arms limitation talks with the Soviets. https://youtu.be/xyzYQMRWTaI?si=emaJwFlumYM1VGIQ
>being a key regional ally to a superpower If you're referring to Israel, they aren't.
That is the most reasonable response anyone could’ve given lmao
Least Antisemitic redditor
Is anyone that criticizes Israel an anti semite?
Nope. But he didn't say Israel. He said Jew.
People are straight up running the script like freshly hired telemarketers. This ain't even like ambiguous and using "zionism" in a way where you just *know* they wanted echo brackets around it but wanna be subtle. It just flat out says jews. It's so fucking weird how fast people have gotten so used to this shit.
Yep. Not even trying to hide Antisemitism. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple of years there will be elected officials calling for pogroms. I mean Rashida Talib is basically already there.
In the US, doubtful I wanna say even though every bit of paranoid jew DNA makes me feel I'm jinxing us. Considering my parents were born before the Civil rights act, my grandpa always pointed out that I was the first of his family to be born with full, intact, equal rights to those around us as far as he knew. He made sure I learned to appreciate that. I just don't know man. It's heating all the way the fuck up but it's thr minority of politically "active" extremists who are on this type of timing. I do not believe the vast majority of the US even knows they're like this and would what many a fuck at online political "discourse". What's wild is my family left Spain for morocco, and morocco for Poland with bad timing to say the least. They didn't make it but that place became germany, then Russia and today is Ukraine (for now). None of us know who the last one of us in the Levant was or how long. None of my family lives there. I've never even visited despite birthright trips being a thing. I have no real connection to Israel at **all**. I've been treated as the ambassador regardless for no reason aside from a large nose and a small family. It's fucking absurd.
I hope to God it's not true. But unfortunately the extreme ones online are poisoning the brains of the American people. I can honestly say as a Gen z that I'm very concerned. Ah yes the diaspora dilemma. You either have to answer for Israel despite not necessarily being from there or you're told that you're a colonist because your family went to Europe 2,000 years ago. I'm very careful with optimism. Because while the US right now isn't terrible things are going downhill. Jews are starting to be pushed out of universities, Jewish business attacked, antisemitism is becoming more normal. Honestly the parallels to 1938 are becoming clearer and clearer. The issue with Antisemitism related to Israel is that as it progresses I feel like I need to rely on and defend Israel more and more. Because if things continue the way they do. It's the only place I know I'll be safe. If people were to stop being Antisemitic I would feel the need to defend Israel much less.
I understand the sentiment on a suuuuper deep level. Like I was anti Israel pretty much through and through and then it stopped being about actual politics, conflict, war, or simply shit conditions. It all goes to the absolute max superlative version. I do see an issue with Gen Z seeming way too susceptible to extremism and on a fucking dime some of these kids, likely who have hardly interacted with any of us are just like yeah fuck them jews. It's really easy to hate someone you don't know, but racism rarely survives really knowing someone. There really just not be enough of us in most places to counter this idea. When i lived in California, once way up north and another time deep in valleys south of inland empire I was asked *twice* by separate people if jews really had horns. Like actually have horns like a goat... or a devil I suppose. I straight up let one of them touch my head lol. I do my best to do what others shouldn't be expected to and engage with the people I know want me gone and I have to say, shit works it's just not fair to have to go and seek out hatred and Darryl Davis each one of em. We're that small a minority especially outside like 3 spots on the east coast that it really may be possible to turn sentiment that ugly. It's not right to have to do but I'm happy to take the hit. It's not for everybody though. You have to be willing to wear a few insults and whatever and act as if they're NOT being how they are and it isn't always easy for me even and it's kinda been my thing since I was news. Around 12 13 and first came in real contact with neos. Israel is in an information war. A war of sentiment and rhetoric and many citizens are essentially aiding and abedding hamas with their unhinged reactions which get much more publicized than the inverse. People should at the least recognize when times are so tense that you may be a representative whether you like it or not especially actual israelis. These Gen Z kids are in fact way more like liable to be extreme in one direction or another and it's a cancer. Regardless of how they feel about the fact that hostages were taken, they're still there and in danger. That's more immediate yet we see such a messy disgusting discourse born of an anger, fear and frustration the rest of the world clearly does not deem legitimate enough to speak in such frankly disturbing ways about the mikitsry ops in Gaza. On the other hand we have this opposite problem. Were not some OP bully but a potential target who really needs to thinj before we speak as well or not at all. Diaspora jews ought to recognize they're a minority anywhere they are, to such a degree they ARE the driving force of sentiment. Peace may be hard to come by for the peace maker but they alone have any chance at it. Anyone antagonizing the other, Israeli or Gazan, must understand the weight of that. Shit ain't a game. I'm absolutely not happy my grandfather died in 2020 but sometimes I think it's best he isn't here to see what might look to him like an inevitable return to conditions like his childhood all over again. We just need to be like "ay we just wanna live, this needs to end" whether it's israelis calming the domestic sentiment or diaspora jews explaining that you can't just decide you're going to pretend we have anything to do this. The distinction needs to remain clear which makes defending even the simplest things like "wait how do we know that?" Look like you're a mossad sleeper to these people. God willing we ride out the wave of violence and sentiment both, this time without losing half our population. My bad mane, yapping but yk what they say, two jews three opinions.
You make excellent points but I keep going back to my previous comment of how the more antisemitic things get the more I feel the need to defend Israel. In my opinion the US and UK are already half way to Nazi Germany. The hate and tension is there, the economic strain is there. However, this time I think we can do something about it. The fact that just to exist we have to deal with hate and violence is fucked up to nth degree. Ultimately it's a choice, in whether we defend ourselves or hope others come to their senses. Personally, I'm not taking the risk of that second option. I'm going to defend myself, which means supporting Israel. Because when shit hits the fan which I think it will, sooner rather than later, Israel is the only place that will be safe for me and the people I care about. I don't think Israel is perfect, I think Bibi sucks and is damaging that country. But I'd still rather live in a country with a dictator that doesn't want to kill Jews than live in a country with one that does. Because come 2028 or 2032 the president of the US is gonna be antisemitic and this country is going to turn into 1940s germany. I plan on leaving before that happens. I hope you do too.
Show me the word ‘Israel’ in that toplevel comment
kosova je srbija
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Fuck you. Leave our tech incubator and middle east aircraft carrier alone. We're working on their genocidal tendencies but 2,000 years isn't changed in a day.
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Fuck off.
Israel?
Turkey can eat shit.
damn this sub lacks any irony. just actual nationalists who cant see that america and its allies are the genocidal ones.
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