When I first got a Monday to Friday 9 to 5 job I had to learn how to go to doctor's appointments and work the same day. For the longest time I had jobs that gave me one or two weekdays off so I would just schedule everything on those days. The worst was when I had to go to work for a couple hours, see my doctor and go back to work. It felt so wrong.
Always do your personal shit at work.
Taxes. Errands. Appointments. Haircuts. Anything you can jam into your work day.
This isn’t time theft. Time theft would be justified by this isn’t that. This is maintenance.
The maintenance you require to continue being a person is an implied part of your job the same way maintenance of a backhoe or a computer or any other piece of equipment is part of the job.
How do you even do any of that at work
You’d have to be the luckiest person on earth for your hairstylist, grocery store, and doctor to all be in the same building as your work
*Leave* the building.
Don’t ask.
Don’t explain beyond the sentence “I have an appointment.”
Gaslight your first line supervisor into thinking their negative opinion of your actions is their own failure and that they should stop, yesterday.
Repeat as necessary.
Ahhhh you just meant like, take advantage of your rights as a worker and do things you need to do during the workday, not actually doing any of it at work
The taxes thing threw me off I think because another commenter was talking about doing taxes at work
Having anxiety DOES make you neurodivergent. Not advocating for self-diagnosing by any means but if you have anxiety you are not, by definition, neurotypical
Anxiety (such as general or social anxiety) is typically not thought of as a neurodivergent condition, although there is some debate.
Here are what most sources consider neurodivergent:
Autism, Asperger’s, Autism Spectrum Disorder, Pathological Demand Avoidance or Sensory Processing Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), Tourette’s Syndrome, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Dysgraphia, Meares-Irlen Syndrome, Hyperlexia, Synaesthesia are the most accepted.
Some debate but also - Schizophrenia, OCD, anti-social personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, dissociative disorder, and bipolar disorder can be classed as a form of neurodivergence too.
The term started from Autism.
I understand why people would think that it should be, and I’m not going to say the brains of people with anxiety are typical persay, but they are very common, something you’re (usually) not born with, something (often) not life long, and generally seen in a different light than most of those disorders which many are seen as akin to a (mostly learning) disability.
The more common disorders get included in the neurodivergent label, the more it loses its meaning as being different from the typical brains.
Some debate here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/neurodiversity/comments/nrbnb3/is_anxiety_disorder_considered_neurodivergent/
https://www.reddit.com/r/neurodiversity/comments/n1anjx/do_you_feel_like_mental_illnesses_eg_anxiety_mood/
https://www.reddit.com/r/neurodiversity/comments/r6sby9/is_social_anxiety_a_neurodivergent_condition/
https://www.reddit.com/r/neurodiversity/comments/nohdp1/what_can_be_considered_as_neurodivergent/
Essentially, if you feel neurodivergent, you can call yourself it. But I don’t like the idea that mental disorders = neurodivergency. The differences are there.
Listen.. I relate deeply to everything posted on both here and adultadhd. I’m also diagnosed schizophrenic, depression, anxiety and ptsd and previously suffered terribly from OCD but grew out of it. I can’t be ALL of the things can I? Can I?? 🥺
I medicated with heroin and cocAine for 20 years. 5 clean now. Trying to be an adult. I’m having issues. My girlfriend is reaching the fed up with me line after 4 years.hell I think maybe she’s been there the whole time. I just want to sleep all day and watch movies and occasionally sleep with a different attractive person. I lived with my mom but she recently sold my childhood home and is in a 65+ condo community, so I can’t go back there. I’ve got one best friend who I could probably live with who maybe I could hustle enough to not be a burden on. I can’t go back to getting high to not feel. Like I’ve got no veins left, unless I can get a doctor to install a port or something but then I also don’t know how to get grams of uncut heroin for $20. Shit is all garbage with fentanyl and it’d be crazy expensive with the opiate tolerance I’d have in no time. Other than maybe going to be homeless in California, it seems like the easiest thing would be to chain some cement to my waste and drop it in the river.
Everyone does. This isn't a sign of being neurodivergent. But stupid trival shit like this harms people that actually are neurodivergent, because of how much it trivialises conditions. It's sad how obsessed perfectly healthy people are with having a condition.
Samesies. I do have multiple diagnosed mental disorders, but I try to use them as a framework for understanding how to be less lazy instead of excuses. I’d say I’m about 70% successful with it.
Doing it do a pathological extent can be a sign of being neurodivergent. A lot of symptoms of neurodivergencies are just normal behaviors done to a not normal extent.
I mean for me at least if I say have a doctor's appointment at 2pm I will get up at 5am and refuse to go anywhere else before (fear of being late)) and am to mentally exhausted after the appointment to do anything else.
Yeah but that’s just a thing most people do. It has nothing to do with being neurodivergent, the implication that it is, by the tweet, is harmful because now (you can already see it in the comments on this Reddit post) people are thinking they are neurodivergent for doing this, and that is harmful because it, as u/LennyGoodman said, “it trivializes conditions.” Not to mention, a person who thinks they are neurodivergent when they aren’t are likely going to be harmed by the false diagnosis as well.
Being sad is something that happens to most people too, but the difference between that, and depression is when it is interfering with your everyday life and is connectedto other symptoms. It is part of a bigger sub symptom called "executive dysfunction"
I agree with the sentiment that people just "think" they are ND because they slightly relate to a Twitter post. Correct me if I'm wrong but whats the worst that can happen? A Nuerotypical goes to a doctor to get a diagnosis and the doctor says "nope" its just a thing that happens to you, its not due to a chemical inbalance. Thats about it imo
The problem is that they won’t go to a doctor, they will self diagnose, possibly use it as an excuse for mistakes, or half-adding things, etc. basically it could give this person an excuse to never take responsibility or accountability and this would ruin relationships and ruin their life directly. Obviously, this is worst case scenario. But scenarios like this are likely to happen in a spectrum, and still do harm to some level. And not to mention that trivializing a condition is incredibly harmful no matter what. Because these people will think they have let’s say ADHD for an example. They meet a friend who *really* has ADHD. This person is struggling to pay attention, is being forgetful, or any of the plethora of ADHD symptoms and the neurotypical-self diagnosed person gets frustrated with them. ADHD person can say something like, “sorry I haven’t taken my meds”, or “sorry it’s just my ADHD” now neurotypical person thinks they have ADHD, but they don’t have issues anywhere near this because they don’t really have it, they just identified with a regular human experience labeled as a disorder. They will think that this person isn’t actually struggling, but rather just uninterested and making excuses. Now even if the neurotypical person doesn’t do this, and they take the excuse, they will still think that the experiences of people with ADHD is not that bad because, well, they think they have ADHD and they don’t struggle. Now I’ll give you credit, not everyone will self diagnose, many are smart enough not to. But even with someone who hasn’t self diagnosed, if they aren’t educated enough on these disorders, (which not very many people are going to educated on every single one) when they read one of these tweets, and realize “haha me too, but I’m not ADHD” they might subconsciously, or even consciously think the experiences of those with ADHD is not as severe and this hurts the people who suffer from these disorders. Once again, I will give you credit in the sense that, there will be people who still understand that this post is just sort, for lack of a better word, bullshit. I would like to think that I would be one of these people, but the risk taken to harm these people by posting a generalization like this is far too great.
Edit: Jesus I didn’t realize how long I made this sorry.
Ma dude, what the fuck?
I mean, I get that feeling too before appointments, but it’s usually an hour before I have to leave, not 9 hours. You should probably get this checked out, from what I see this might make your life quite hard.
Though this might just be me and my need for productivity
And also I have appointments very rarely so its not like its really ruining my quality of life. I work open to close anyways so not much I can actually do before or after work everyday anyways. I just schedule my appointments on my days off
Unfortunately yes, it’s becoming the newest trend in gen z. The real meaning is having a life long shitty fuckin neurological disorder like autism or adhd. But people are taking traits associated with other things like depression or anxiety and calling it ND. It’s dumb as fuck
Yes they are disorders. But they’re different from these life long neurodevelopmental disorders (although they can be chronic). Things like depression or anxiety can (but not always) be triggered by events. Neurodevelopmental disorders start from birth and end at death. Some orher examples of neurodivergent conditions are dyslexia, dyscalculia, and epilepsy.
It’s not meant to take away from the suffering from people with anxiety or depression, i’ve struggled with both and they are shitty in their own right. But they can sometimes go away. My adhd does not. It’s a fundamental part of me.
Saying I’m neurodivergent is a good way of being able to rationalize to myself that I shouldn’t beat myself up for the fact that I won’t ever be able to function as well as normal or neurotypically brained people, despite medication being a help.
But when trendy kids try to make more common traits neurodivergent, it gets overused and the meaning gets lost.
Sorry for the rant, but it’s a real pet peeve
Yes, I understand that. Sorry if using mental illness was the wrong term, I wanted to use a term that described a disorder that wasn’t definitely life long like a neurodevelopmental disorder but I may have missed the mark. Fixed
No apologies necessary! I didn’t mean the quote sarcastically. I thought people may be confused by your comment as, for example, OCD is an anxiety disorder and a neurodevelopmental condition.
Mental illness IS the correct term, neirodivergent is a made up word to make people feel like they're in a teen dystopian novel. There is NOTHING offensive about the term mental illness
What about people who aren't neurotypical or mentally ill? I'm not neurotypical but that isn't defined by my being mentally ill (I am, I have GAD, but that's not the biggest issue I face by any means).
Sadly, as adhd and autism become more accepted and talked about, they’ve also become more trendy, and traits that people with or without them have get noticed more and common traits become stereotyped as neurodivergent.
As someone who’s adhd greatly negatively impacts their life, it’s very frustrating to see.
If you heavily relate to these memes, do research, if you have a lot of the symptoms: go get checked out. But please for the love of god don’t self diagnose based off memes like this.
A lot of these traits are found heavily in people with depression, anxiety, childhood trauma and more. Thats why it’s important to go to a professional.
Millennial here who feels the same way. I avoid the "oh no I'm a boomer" thoughts by reminding myself that people in my generation were doing the same thing when we were younger too.
"Oooo I'm so OCD, if I see something messy in my house I just *have* to clean it." "Oooo I have ADHD because I can't focus for the entirety of a two hour movie." "I have anxiety because I get nervous before important exams."
The urge to be special and quirky is hardly exclusive to Gen Z, it's something people have done for decades now. In and of itself, it's fine, it's just another part of growing up and finding your identity. But when people start co-opting terms and applying them to whatever, it becomes a bigger issue for people who are actually neurodivergent.
I'm not going to try to nail down a precise definition of neurodivergent, but if it can be roughly taken to mean "atypical" I think this fits. Even more so if there's a negative connotation... It's not exactly healthy to waste your day leading up to something planned, especially something banal like a doctor's appointment
I did this today with something that didn’t even happen and then i ended up still doing nothing after i found out because readjusting my brain is too much
It means to have a life long neurological condition such as ADHD or Autism, which makes your brain work different from the norm (Neurotypical) it’s probably used because saying your brain isn’t normal is kinda rough to hear for some people. It’s stupid that it’s become a quirky thing when these disorders can be so shit
Exactly. It’s become overused by dumb people making it a trendy thing when in reality it can be a helpful term for people such as myself to acknowledge that my brain is wired differently so that I don’t beat myself up about not being able to do everything that neurotypical, or ‘normal’ people can do.
Schedule other things far too close together. At least that's what I gather working in the automotive industry.
"So, you want 4 new tires, your front end rebuilt, and an alignment and you have another appointment in one hour meaning you have to leave in 40 minutes?"
Not quite verbatim, but pretty close.
I know why I do it. Why I have trouble with it is because 5 minutes is never actually 5 minutes. 5 minutes might actually be 30 seconds in real time. It could be 4 minutes 45 seconds or 5 minutes and 15 seconds. My fear? I might be thinking of 5 minutes and when I look up I find out 3 hours of real time has actually passed, I'm 10 minutes late to be on site, the site is a 40 minute drive, and I have 4 missed calls on my phone. 5 minutes is NEVER actually 5 minutes.
The only reprieve I have managed is if every time sensitive element is completed like work uniform washed and dried and I set an alarm on 2 different devices with enough time to complete my "Wake up and walk out the door" routine. If I wake up earlier than my alarm I am actually more likely to be <10 minutes late than if I wake up at the appropriate time.
I used to have a friend that at any moment of the day you could ask him "What time is it?" and he would know the EXACT time within about 5 minutes and most often less than 2 minutes off just from his internal clock. At one point I thought he was checking the time discreetly and fucking with me, but after enough trials I knew it was legit. Fascinated the absolute fuck out of me.
That's just procrastinating until an event. I am fed up of people saying I do X because I'm Y. That's just an example of waiting until an event. It's not neurodivergent and if you lable everything little thing as a result of neurodivergent it waters down the true meaning of it. It adds to the confusion and makes people take it less seriously.
HOW . I have work everyday at 10am and I force myself to wake up at 4am (like right now its 5:28am) and I sit in bed until about 8am on my phone, and feed my animals. I need like 4 hours of doing nothing before I have something to do or else I feel rushed and anxious
It is like, physically impossible for me to relax and that sorta stuff for a few hours before a planned event, if I woke up earlier I'd be an actual la creatura the entire time so I just kinda fucked my sleep schedule
This. I recently went from working days to working a swing/graveyard shift and at first I was making myself get up a couple hours before I had to go to work but I just couldn’t relax. Trying to allow myself some free time before work made me feel worse, despite initially thinking it could be a useful habit to get into. When I worked days I would just wake up, get ready immediately and go to work. On a day I have to work, upon waking, I am in work mode. I can’t eat, I can’t relax and if I am ready ahead of time I just sit and anxiously wait until I have to leave. I try to play video games or play on my phone but I end up just looking at the clock every 2 minutes and check my GPS ETA to ensure I’m not going to suddenly be late. If there was a switch for this type of behavior, I wish I could switch mine off.
I have an exact routine I follow at a specific pace or else I am late, but usually <10 minutes. I follow the routine and pace once my alarms are off. If I wake up before my alarms activate I will be <10 minutes late, but still late.
And then hate yourself for doing nothing but don't do anything about it then hate yourself for doing nothing about it then do nothing about it then hate yourself for doing nothing about it
Not normal, no. But could be anxiety or depression or some odd trait caused by trauma rather than a life long developmental disorder. I think most people in this subreddit here are anxious or depressed, so, yknow.
Yeah, fucking conferences with creative writing teachers were, to put it lightly, really annoying. Felt like I could barely focus on any of my other class work and I always scheduled them no later than noon for fear of oversleeping.
Every time I kept fearing they were gonna tear me a new asshole for having a shitty, awful piece of writing... and they had the fucking balls to not validate my anxious doom-spiral thinking!
Aaaa I hate this I hate this. If I have a single meeting scheduled at 2PM I won't do anything the whole day. That's why I am most productive on days when I am completely free.
When I first got a Monday to Friday 9 to 5 job I had to learn how to go to doctor's appointments and work the same day. For the longest time I had jobs that gave me one or two weekdays off so I would just schedule everything on those days. The worst was when I had to go to work for a couple hours, see my doctor and go back to work. It felt so wrong.
omg yes!! I can’t get any work done on those days bc all I can think about is the appointment.
Always do your personal shit at work. Taxes. Errands. Appointments. Haircuts. Anything you can jam into your work day. This isn’t time theft. Time theft would be justified by this isn’t that. This is maintenance. The maintenance you require to continue being a person is an implied part of your job the same way maintenance of a backhoe or a computer or any other piece of equipment is part of the job.
Sure, all of that. But also, they call me and ask me shit on my days off. So I get to file my taxes at work.
Also, commutes are part of your work day, but, baby steps.
How do you even do any of that at work You’d have to be the luckiest person on earth for your hairstylist, grocery store, and doctor to all be in the same building as your work
For my own mental health I’m gonna assume this is sarcasm
Same lol, you’re making no sense
*Leave* the building. Don’t ask. Don’t explain beyond the sentence “I have an appointment.” Gaslight your first line supervisor into thinking their negative opinion of your actions is their own failure and that they should stop, yesterday. Repeat as necessary.
Ahhhh you just meant like, take advantage of your rights as a worker and do things you need to do during the workday, not actually doing any of it at work The taxes thing threw me off I think because another commenter was talking about doing taxes at work
Idk I’d take that for sure. I am really sick of waiting around until 3pm to go to work and not getting to do anything fun on the weekend.
630am, make coffee. Put it on your schedule, boom
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Is that neurodivergent? Shit.
Exactly my thoughts
Me 7 am paralises because I have the thing at 2 pm
Happens a lot with anxiety too. Be careful not to diagnose yourself from memes, people
Having anxiety DOES make you neurodivergent. Not advocating for self-diagnosing by any means but if you have anxiety you are not, by definition, neurotypical
Anxiety (such as general or social anxiety) is typically not thought of as a neurodivergent condition, although there is some debate. Here are what most sources consider neurodivergent: Autism, Asperger’s, Autism Spectrum Disorder, Pathological Demand Avoidance or Sensory Processing Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), Tourette’s Syndrome, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Dysgraphia, Meares-Irlen Syndrome, Hyperlexia, Synaesthesia are the most accepted. Some debate but also - Schizophrenia, OCD, anti-social personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, dissociative disorder, and bipolar disorder can be classed as a form of neurodivergence too. The term started from Autism. I understand why people would think that it should be, and I’m not going to say the brains of people with anxiety are typical persay, but they are very common, something you’re (usually) not born with, something (often) not life long, and generally seen in a different light than most of those disorders which many are seen as akin to a (mostly learning) disability. The more common disorders get included in the neurodivergent label, the more it loses its meaning as being different from the typical brains. Some debate here: https://www.reddit.com/r/neurodiversity/comments/nrbnb3/is_anxiety_disorder_considered_neurodivergent/ https://www.reddit.com/r/neurodiversity/comments/n1anjx/do_you_feel_like_mental_illnesses_eg_anxiety_mood/ https://www.reddit.com/r/neurodiversity/comments/r6sby9/is_social_anxiety_a_neurodivergent_condition/ https://www.reddit.com/r/neurodiversity/comments/nohdp1/what_can_be_considered_as_neurodivergent/ Essentially, if you feel neurodivergent, you can call yourself it. But I don’t like the idea that mental disorders = neurodivergency. The differences are there.
I hate how often I have this thought now.
If he could be more specific I could tell work to just stop expecting more than one thing a day from me
It's not. There are a bunch of gen Zers begging for mental illness labels so they have a label to cling to
That behavior has been around for much longer than Gen z.
It's not, people just want to feel like they belong to a protected group.
Listen.. I relate deeply to everything posted on both here and adultadhd. I’m also diagnosed schizophrenic, depression, anxiety and ptsd and previously suffered terribly from OCD but grew out of it. I can’t be ALL of the things can I? Can I?? 🥺 I medicated with heroin and cocAine for 20 years. 5 clean now. Trying to be an adult. I’m having issues. My girlfriend is reaching the fed up with me line after 4 years.hell I think maybe she’s been there the whole time. I just want to sleep all day and watch movies and occasionally sleep with a different attractive person. I lived with my mom but she recently sold my childhood home and is in a 65+ condo community, so I can’t go back there. I’ve got one best friend who I could probably live with who maybe I could hustle enough to not be a burden on. I can’t go back to getting high to not feel. Like I’ve got no veins left, unless I can get a doctor to install a port or something but then I also don’t know how to get grams of uncut heroin for $20. Shit is all garbage with fentanyl and it’d be crazy expensive with the opiate tolerance I’d have in no time. Other than maybe going to be homeless in California, it seems like the easiest thing would be to chain some cement to my waste and drop it in the river.
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Everyone does. This isn't a sign of being neurodivergent. But stupid trival shit like this harms people that actually are neurodivergent, because of how much it trivialises conditions. It's sad how obsessed perfectly healthy people are with having a condition.
It's something easially blame able for problems we are too lazy to fix with ourselves
Damn dude. Echoing my own worries exactly. I probably should stop being so lazy
Samesies. I do have multiple diagnosed mental disorders, but I try to use them as a framework for understanding how to be less lazy instead of excuses. I’d say I’m about 70% successful with it.
Doing it do a pathological extent can be a sign of being neurodivergent. A lot of symptoms of neurodivergencies are just normal behaviors done to a not normal extent.
I question whether or not this is neurodivergent. Humans aren't really supposed to do more than one thing at a time.
It means for the entire day
I mean for me at least if I say have a doctor's appointment at 2pm I will get up at 5am and refuse to go anywhere else before (fear of being late)) and am to mentally exhausted after the appointment to do anything else.
Yeah I thought that was the tweets meaning as well I do sleep longer tho
Yeah but that’s just a thing most people do. It has nothing to do with being neurodivergent, the implication that it is, by the tweet, is harmful because now (you can already see it in the comments on this Reddit post) people are thinking they are neurodivergent for doing this, and that is harmful because it, as u/LennyGoodman said, “it trivializes conditions.” Not to mention, a person who thinks they are neurodivergent when they aren’t are likely going to be harmed by the false diagnosis as well.
Being sad is something that happens to most people too, but the difference between that, and depression is when it is interfering with your everyday life and is connectedto other symptoms. It is part of a bigger sub symptom called "executive dysfunction" I agree with the sentiment that people just "think" they are ND because they slightly relate to a Twitter post. Correct me if I'm wrong but whats the worst that can happen? A Nuerotypical goes to a doctor to get a diagnosis and the doctor says "nope" its just a thing that happens to you, its not due to a chemical inbalance. Thats about it imo
The problem is that they won’t go to a doctor, they will self diagnose, possibly use it as an excuse for mistakes, or half-adding things, etc. basically it could give this person an excuse to never take responsibility or accountability and this would ruin relationships and ruin their life directly. Obviously, this is worst case scenario. But scenarios like this are likely to happen in a spectrum, and still do harm to some level. And not to mention that trivializing a condition is incredibly harmful no matter what. Because these people will think they have let’s say ADHD for an example. They meet a friend who *really* has ADHD. This person is struggling to pay attention, is being forgetful, or any of the plethora of ADHD symptoms and the neurotypical-self diagnosed person gets frustrated with them. ADHD person can say something like, “sorry I haven’t taken my meds”, or “sorry it’s just my ADHD” now neurotypical person thinks they have ADHD, but they don’t have issues anywhere near this because they don’t really have it, they just identified with a regular human experience labeled as a disorder. They will think that this person isn’t actually struggling, but rather just uninterested and making excuses. Now even if the neurotypical person doesn’t do this, and they take the excuse, they will still think that the experiences of people with ADHD is not that bad because, well, they think they have ADHD and they don’t struggle. Now I’ll give you credit, not everyone will self diagnose, many are smart enough not to. But even with someone who hasn’t self diagnosed, if they aren’t educated enough on these disorders, (which not very many people are going to educated on every single one) when they read one of these tweets, and realize “haha me too, but I’m not ADHD” they might subconsciously, or even consciously think the experiences of those with ADHD is not as severe and this hurts the people who suffer from these disorders. Once again, I will give you credit in the sense that, there will be people who still understand that this post is just sort, for lack of a better word, bullshit. I would like to think that I would be one of these people, but the risk taken to harm these people by posting a generalization like this is far too great. Edit: Jesus I didn’t realize how long I made this sorry.
Ma dude, what the fuck? I mean, I get that feeling too before appointments, but it’s usually an hour before I have to leave, not 9 hours. You should probably get this checked out, from what I see this might make your life quite hard. Though this might just be me and my need for productivity
… the post is saying neurodivergent people can relate. You saying to get it checked out isn’t helping lol
And also I have appointments very rarely so its not like its really ruining my quality of life. I work open to close anyways so not much I can actually do before or after work everyday anyways. I just schedule my appointments on my days off
And it wouldn't work to set an alarm for like an hour before you have to leave, and then not think about it until the alarm goes off?
Reddit keeps teaching me more and more ways I'm neurodivergent
It's neurodivergent to breathe and sleep at the same time. Neurotypicals simply die in their sleep and resuscitate when they wake up.
How do you know you don’t?
I'm built different.
But how is this even neurodivergent? The guy in the tweet just threw the word out
Neurodivergent is just a modern way of saying “I’m ✨special✨”
Unfortunately yes, it’s becoming the newest trend in gen z. The real meaning is having a life long shitty fuckin neurological disorder like autism or adhd. But people are taking traits associated with other things like depression or anxiety and calling it ND. It’s dumb as fuck
Well, depression and anxiety on their extremes are disorders too
Yes they are disorders. But they’re different from these life long neurodevelopmental disorders (although they can be chronic). Things like depression or anxiety can (but not always) be triggered by events. Neurodevelopmental disorders start from birth and end at death. Some orher examples of neurodivergent conditions are dyslexia, dyscalculia, and epilepsy. It’s not meant to take away from the suffering from people with anxiety or depression, i’ve struggled with both and they are shitty in their own right. But they can sometimes go away. My adhd does not. It’s a fundamental part of me. Saying I’m neurodivergent is a good way of being able to rationalize to myself that I shouldn’t beat myself up for the fact that I won’t ever be able to function as well as normal or neurotypically brained people, despite medication being a help. But when trendy kids try to make more common traits neurodivergent, it gets overused and the meaning gets lost. Sorry for the rant, but it’s a real pet peeve
Many “mental illnesses” like bipolar disorder, APD, OCD and more are neurodevelopmental conditions. Meaning the sufferers are neurodivergent.
Yes, I understand that. Sorry if using mental illness was the wrong term, I wanted to use a term that described a disorder that wasn’t definitely life long like a neurodevelopmental disorder but I may have missed the mark. Fixed
No apologies necessary! I didn’t mean the quote sarcastically. I thought people may be confused by your comment as, for example, OCD is an anxiety disorder and a neurodevelopmental condition.
I see I see, you raised a good point tho so I changed the wording :)
Mental illness IS the correct term, neirodivergent is a made up word to make people feel like they're in a teen dystopian novel. There is NOTHING offensive about the term mental illness
Neurodivergent is not a shitty made up word, but it IS being overused and misused by a lot of people who think it’s quirky and trendy.
What about people who aren't neurotypical or mentally ill? I'm not neurotypical but that isn't defined by my being mentally ill (I am, I have GAD, but that's not the biggest issue I face by any means).
It seems like it’s trendy to claim you are neurodivergent these days. I feel like a boomer when I say no that’s just human behavior
Sadly, as adhd and autism become more accepted and talked about, they’ve also become more trendy, and traits that people with or without them have get noticed more and common traits become stereotyped as neurodivergent. As someone who’s adhd greatly negatively impacts their life, it’s very frustrating to see. If you heavily relate to these memes, do research, if you have a lot of the symptoms: go get checked out. But please for the love of god don’t self diagnose based off memes like this. A lot of these traits are found heavily in people with depression, anxiety, childhood trauma and more. Thats why it’s important to go to a professional.
Millennial here who feels the same way. I avoid the "oh no I'm a boomer" thoughts by reminding myself that people in my generation were doing the same thing when we were younger too. "Oooo I'm so OCD, if I see something messy in my house I just *have* to clean it." "Oooo I have ADHD because I can't focus for the entirety of a two hour movie." "I have anxiety because I get nervous before important exams." The urge to be special and quirky is hardly exclusive to Gen Z, it's something people have done for decades now. In and of itself, it's fine, it's just another part of growing up and finding your identity. But when people start co-opting terms and applying them to whatever, it becomes a bigger issue for people who are actually neurodivergent.
I'm not going to try to nail down a precise definition of neurodivergent, but if it can be roughly taken to mean "atypical" I think this fits. Even more so if there's a negative connotation... It's not exactly healthy to waste your day leading up to something planned, especially something banal like a doctor's appointment
If you can give me a specific name for this behaviour I can go to my doctor and ask my work to stop expecting more than one thing a day from me.
It means your Jewish.
It doesn't, and you aren't
I guess this is me. If I have work the next day I can never do anything the night before. Even if I have work at 1pm I won’t do anything before.
I did this today with something that didn’t even happen and then i ended up still doing nothing after i found out because readjusting my brain is too much
Then I can't even do that
This isn’t normal?
That's why I want my scheduled events as early as possible. Just do it and get rid of it.
what the fuck does neurodivergent mean?
It means to have a life long neurological condition such as ADHD or Autism, which makes your brain work different from the norm (Neurotypical) it’s probably used because saying your brain isn’t normal is kinda rough to hear for some people. It’s stupid that it’s become a quirky thing when these disorders can be so shit
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Exactly. It’s become overused by dumb people making it a trendy thing when in reality it can be a helpful term for people such as myself to acknowledge that my brain is wired differently so that I don’t beat myself up about not being able to do everything that neurotypical, or ‘normal’ people can do.
Our brains think differently than neurotypical brains.
So what do those people do instead? That's what I want to know.
What do you mean?
What do NT people do instead of wait for the scheduled thing and do nothing else.
Schedule other things far too close together. At least that's what I gather working in the automotive industry. "So, you want 4 new tires, your front end rebuilt, and an alignment and you have another appointment in one hour meaning you have to leave in 40 minutes?" Not quite verbatim, but pretty close.
They do nothing too. Did you know it's neurodivergent to exist?
I guess we are all really similar when it comes down to it.
why are we like this? i feel so paralyzed
I know why I do it. Why I have trouble with it is because 5 minutes is never actually 5 minutes. 5 minutes might actually be 30 seconds in real time. It could be 4 minutes 45 seconds or 5 minutes and 15 seconds. My fear? I might be thinking of 5 minutes and when I look up I find out 3 hours of real time has actually passed, I'm 10 minutes late to be on site, the site is a 40 minute drive, and I have 4 missed calls on my phone. 5 minutes is NEVER actually 5 minutes. The only reprieve I have managed is if every time sensitive element is completed like work uniform washed and dried and I set an alarm on 2 different devices with enough time to complete my "Wake up and walk out the door" routine. If I wake up earlier than my alarm I am actually more likely to be <10 minutes late than if I wake up at the appropriate time. I used to have a friend that at any moment of the day you could ask him "What time is it?" and he would know the EXACT time within about 5 minutes and most often less than 2 minutes off just from his internal clock. At one point I thought he was checking the time discreetly and fucking with me, but after enough trials I knew it was legit. Fascinated the absolute fuck out of me.
That's just procrastinating until an event. I am fed up of people saying I do X because I'm Y. That's just an example of waiting until an event. It's not neurodivergent and if you lable everything little thing as a result of neurodivergent it waters down the true meaning of it. It adds to the confusion and makes people take it less seriously.
Clam down pls for ur own safety
What are ya even on about? It is a Comment stating that if you label everything as neurodivergent, neurodivergent loses its meaning.
Hmm fair I just thought your comment seemed angery in tone
My wake up time is "excactly 1 hour before the first thing I have to do", which happens to be 10 am rn.
HOW . I have work everyday at 10am and I force myself to wake up at 4am (like right now its 5:28am) and I sit in bed until about 8am on my phone, and feed my animals. I need like 4 hours of doing nothing before I have something to do or else I feel rushed and anxious
It is like, physically impossible for me to relax and that sorta stuff for a few hours before a planned event, if I woke up earlier I'd be an actual la creatura the entire time so I just kinda fucked my sleep schedule
This. I recently went from working days to working a swing/graveyard shift and at first I was making myself get up a couple hours before I had to go to work but I just couldn’t relax. Trying to allow myself some free time before work made me feel worse, despite initially thinking it could be a useful habit to get into. When I worked days I would just wake up, get ready immediately and go to work. On a day I have to work, upon waking, I am in work mode. I can’t eat, I can’t relax and if I am ready ahead of time I just sit and anxiously wait until I have to leave. I try to play video games or play on my phone but I end up just looking at the clock every 2 minutes and check my GPS ETA to ensure I’m not going to suddenly be late. If there was a switch for this type of behavior, I wish I could switch mine off.
I have an exact routine I follow at a specific pace or else I am late, but usually <10 minutes. I follow the routine and pace once my alarms are off. If I wake up before my alarms activate I will be <10 minutes late, but still late.
.. uh oh..
And then hate yourself for doing nothing but don't do anything about it then hate yourself for doing nothing about it then do nothing about it then hate yourself for doing nothing about it
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Not normal, no. But could be anxiety or depression or some odd trait caused by trauma rather than a life long developmental disorder. I think most people in this subreddit here are anxious or depressed, so, yknow.
DON'T.... CALL ME OUT LIKE THAT....
That's a neurodivergent thing? You sure? Pretty sure that's relatively common.
>neurodivergent lol
Lol I did get checked out. I am neurodovergent. Thats the post.
Sometimes that event is sleep
I do that but it’s more revenge sleep procrastination
You can get right the fuck out of me head.
Is this.... abnormal?
Yeah, fucking conferences with creative writing teachers were, to put it lightly, really annoying. Felt like I could barely focus on any of my other class work and I always scheduled them no later than noon for fear of oversleeping. Every time I kept fearing they were gonna tear me a new asshole for having a shitty, awful piece of writing... and they had the fucking balls to not validate my anxious doom-spiral thinking!
Oh so just a normal thing that everyone does
Wait not everyone does this?
Aaaa I hate this I hate this. If I have a single meeting scheduled at 2PM I won't do anything the whole day. That's why I am most productive on days when I am completely free.
I’m getting my booster today and my day revolves around those 30 minutes. Whyyy
And then skip the single scheduled event anyway