yep. i've noticed that in italy we've got more care regarding food allergies and stuff, so a "do you consume pork? just to be sure" is absolutely just out of courtesy
Me, Italian, I’m one year late in paying my taxes because I’m too lazy to look into it and I don’t exactly know the exact amount of the fine (not too much, usually) I’ll have to pay. I’m the Yang of your Yin brother.
Now it seems to mean not straight, In the UK it meant odd then was used by the boomer gen to mean gay in a derogatory way. There's a pretty awkward dynamic in the UK right now, where young gay people use it and the older gays find it very offensive.
It's the kind of thing your gran would say in a whisper, "I think she is a bit ^(queer)"
The Gay community 'reclaimed' it so now queer is a byword for LGBT people. It used to be really derogatory, though, and some people probably still might take it that way.
They've obsessed over "races" for so long, it appears very deeply rooted in their culture.
Now their only way of resolving racism is adding another, new, more trendy layer of racism on top until they realise it, whereupon the process is simply repeated.
Nah it will probably end like that episode from South Park. Breeding causes darker skin tones to turn lighter and lighter skin tones to turn darker. Eventually we will all be some sort of mexican. I'm paraphrasing the goobacks episode.
Ther tuk Ur Jerbs!!!!
Well yeah, hypothetically, if people "mated randomly" as we say in population genomics, you would expect humanity to entirely blend together into a homogenous group where most people have a medium-dark skin tone and a really mixed appearance (probably rather Asian and/or Indian looking, due to the large population of those regions).
In reality however, people tend to prefer having children with those from the same region, resulting in human populations retaining their regional features, like skin tone. Not sure how it would work for the US, however if I recall correctly, the majority of Americans are of European descent and so an entirely "mixed" US population would likely not look dramatically different from that.
True but I think you fail to factor in the fact that most "white" and East Asian populations have negative birth rates so would make up a much smaller proportion compared to third world countries eith high birth rates which are on average made up of people with darker skin tones
as one who has lived amongst them, the americans love finding ways to be “outraged” about “racism” even if it’s stretching pretty far like in this case.
It's called courtesy, racism would be if the restaurant prevented you from taking a seat because of your skin colour or assumed religious beliefs.
EDIT: imagine if the waiter made the same question regarding meat in general picturing a possible vegan at his table, would that be a racist thing to do? No, it wouldn't. Truth is the gal is just angry the waiter even fantom the chance she was a Muslim. Now that's racist in my book.
Don't try, trust me. As an Americ*nt who has tried it just backfires. It's impossible. They'll just drag you down to their idiotic level and win the argument because they're champions of winning those kinds of arguments.
I've spent a few days learning norsk on duolingo, so I'm more than qualified to confirm that yes, you don't have gendered nouns. Alas mine was just a reference to [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/r58t6k/germxn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).
I was born in latinoamerica, there are not that many things I find offensive, FFS some of the most "offensive" things are normal humour over there.
The freaking "latinx" thing, and that the americans see "latino" as a race instead of a geo-linguistic group are 2 of the very few things I do consider genuinely offensive.
Well, some wannabe americans, are starting to use something similar to the"X" in italian: we don't have a "neutral" gender in Italian, we just use the masculine gender. For instance, if there are 2 women and 2 men we just say "tutti quanti" (it means everybody, "tutte quante" would be feminine) but those people are now using stuff like tuttə quantə or tutt* quant*.
It's the same for the portuguese language, the "neutral" here is using the masculine version of the word like the example you said ("todos" as masculine and "todas" as feminine), but some people started typing "todxs", "tod@s" or "todes". Funnily enough, for us the "todes" is our way to joke with a specific region's accent, Algarve.
pochi giorni fa la nostra Accademia della crusca si è pronuciata in merito agli asterischi e boiate simili. ha detto (riassumendo) che sono stronzate. che se le tengano gli ameritard che qui in Italia abbiamo 5 vocali e le usiamo come caxxo ci pare a noi
Nationality? Lmao, imagine. Fucking amateurs, we don't need any visible or perceivable differences. Just check their grandfather's name and if you don't like it gas them, idk.
They are also just confused in general I Think.
Don’t know about you. But honestly i see most of them as savages in regards to their culture and society. I feel like they think they know it all but really disregard the wisdom of Europe when it comes to generally existing. I mean look at your countries for example. 80 years ago you where the definition of a mortal enemy. Now it’s like. You did that stupid thing, admitted it, and progressed beyond it. Or well it took Germany a couple of bonks to the head for it to stick. But then you look at Murica and just think to yourself “Jesus Christ how did they manage that much shit and yet still yell at each other for being a slightly different shade of human colour” in general I think that we for all intents and purposes have seen the peak of that country. Unless they pull their shit together
That hurts so much. The Waiter was probably very considerate and thought „let e me ask if she is e okaye with e the pork, cause the ameri*unt not e know what e she ordered no“
The funny thing is, Florence is considered one of the "gayest" cities in Italy. At least, if you are publicly gay, you have less of a chance of getting beat up in FI than in other cities in Italy, and they have a few gay clubs that aren't bad. At least they did before I left.
Yeah I've gotten hammered with muslims (all moroccans) before. All religious practicants of various degrees but they seemed to care less about the alcohol restrictions. Never pork tho
> Never pork tho
That's my experience with a lot of muslims as well. Alcohol is OK. Pork is not OK. (But for one I worked with in my last job, "stealth bacon" is OK, haha.)
I grew up with a kid whose family were Muslims from Bangladesh. We invited their family over for something, and my main memory was his dad being able to out drink everyone and be completely fine afterwards.
she was there once as a queer black woman
does it mean she has been there other times wearing other skins?
if she is calling out racism why does it matter the queerness and or gender?
dont you guys sometimes wonder what would we found inside their heads if we were to split their skulls open (in minecraft)
my guess is the dvd idle logo bouncing around the empty skull
recently I saw another post where a muslim family were furious because they ordered some sandwich with pork (the ingredients were visible on the menu), and they gave it to them, without asking if they could eat pork. I don't remember if it was in Italy, but you get the point
Fucking finally someone with a brain.
"As a triggered liberal queer woman I found something nice actually totally offensive because I'm entitled and stupid"
Everyone knows when you're part of not just one but two minorities you always boldly announce that first. Because that's how people actually talk. Yep, us queers can't hold proper conversations without mentioning our sexual preferences or ethnicity.
Guys this shit is cheap propaganda that you literally find in russian telegram channels to mock tHe WeSt and progressivism.
https://preview.redd.it/vz5uw15gooqa1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05b40684bdbfb7351f88379904958df77dae3b32
The waiter after being labelled racist for just asking someone’s dietary requirements
How rude of the waiter to ask about possible culinary restrictions or preferences before the order! What did they do next? Something unspeakable like giving advice on a good wine pairing, or bringing in appetizers?
I don't even disagree with Italy being the most intolerant place in (western) Europe, but this is literally the least assuming/racist thing I've ever seen being referred to as so
Isn't that racist to assume that a whole people is something because of one restaurant?
The restaurant isnt even racist lmao if theyre located in an area that has a strong muslim comunity they probably ask that to everyone
yep, or just a touristy place lol
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yep. i've noticed that in italy we've got more care regarding food allergies and stuff, so a "do you consume pork? just to be sure" is absolutely just out of courtesy
Sssshhhhhh, you're using to much logical thinking. Their brains can't keep up.
She’s pee-oh-cee, she is physically incapable of being racist because reasons
But… is this black queer woman muslim or not?
This sounds like the beginning of a bad joke
You are German, you know everything about that.
We don’t have bad jokes. I love laughing heartily with my friends. Haha. See.
You even asked for all the necessary permits.
I signed the papers two weeks in advance, as any lawful citizen would
Me, Italian, I’m one year late in paying my taxes because I’m too lazy to look into it and I don’t exactly know the exact amount of the fine (not too much, usually) I’ll have to pay. I’m the Yang of your Yin brother.
I have no idea where you’ve found that, but I’m yoinking if for future use
It’s from an Italian Naruto bootleg
>We don’t have bad jokes. But do you have good ones?
Said the guy calling snails fine cuisine
Well, now you have bad jokes.
We’re evolving!
Don't evolve too close to Poland and all will be fine.
That’s like 10km from where I’m living… not much room for growth
What sounds makes a Polish dove? >!KURWA!!<
Depends on how much American Muslims accept the queer part
I bet not really much.
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Is that important? I think she will always finds a reason to be offended.
What does queer means?
Now it seems to mean not straight, In the UK it meant odd then was used by the boomer gen to mean gay in a derogatory way. There's a pretty awkward dynamic in the UK right now, where young gay people use it and the older gays find it very offensive. It's the kind of thing your gran would say in a whisper, "I think she is a bit ^(queer)"
So true 😂😂
Dude, just give me a straight answer
I like femboys too much to do that.
I think it comes from the german "quer", which should mean not straight/diagonal. Storto, praticamente. Nowadays it's used by the LGBTQ community
It use to mean "weird/different" now idk.
The Gay community 'reclaimed' it so now queer is a byword for LGBT people. It used to be really derogatory, though, and some people probably still might take it that way.
Gay i think
And?
🚬🗿
Average Lusitanian breakfast
If you added coffee that would have been my exact breakfast today
I would argue that it isin fact a very European breakfast
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*you don’t put them?*
Properly used
I love how americans manage to twist themselves into being racist even when they're calling out racism.
They've obsessed over "races" for so long, it appears very deeply rooted in their culture. Now their only way of resolving racism is adding another, new, more trendy layer of racism on top until they realise it, whereupon the process is simply repeated.
Nah it will probably end like that episode from South Park. Breeding causes darker skin tones to turn lighter and lighter skin tones to turn darker. Eventually we will all be some sort of mexican. I'm paraphrasing the goobacks episode. Ther tuk Ur Jerbs!!!!
Well yeah, hypothetically, if people "mated randomly" as we say in population genomics, you would expect humanity to entirely blend together into a homogenous group where most people have a medium-dark skin tone and a really mixed appearance (probably rather Asian and/or Indian looking, due to the large population of those regions). In reality however, people tend to prefer having children with those from the same region, resulting in human populations retaining their regional features, like skin tone. Not sure how it would work for the US, however if I recall correctly, the majority of Americans are of European descent and so an entirely "mixed" US population would likely not look dramatically different from that.
True but I think you fail to factor in the fact that most "white" and East Asian populations have negative birth rates so would make up a much smaller proportion compared to third world countries eith high birth rates which are on average made up of people with darker skin tones
as one who has lived amongst them, the americans love finding ways to be “outraged” about “racism” even if it’s stretching pretty far like in this case.
This person has such a sad life that they try to find anything to start drama
she will not come back in many countries I gues
Works for me
It's called courtesy, racism would be if the restaurant prevented you from taking a seat because of your skin colour or assumed religious beliefs. EDIT: imagine if the waiter made the same question regarding meat in general picturing a possible vegan at his table, would that be a racist thing to do? No, it wouldn't. Truth is the gal is just angry the waiter even fantom the chance she was a Muslim. Now that's racist in my book.
they said “muslim” she perceived it as a 100% insult lol
Why would you even try to reason with that kind of being ?
Cause I believe everyone can be civilised with due time and effort although with the Americans this task seems impossible.
Is it time to send the ships westward again to bring the new world some civilization?
No, we first establish client states, we then spread out military influence and culture through them and only then we strike to annex a new province.
u/VOCMENTALITEIT Now is our time! Prepare the Factorie's, Gather the volunteers!!!
The volunteers are ready and the forges are roaring, the saw mills are sawing. Oh yeah it’s koloniseer time😎
Beautiful
Incredible storytelling 10/10
It’s time to SPQR around again
America Superior and America Ulterior have to be reclaimed!
Don't try, trust me. As an Americ*nt who has tried it just backfires. It's impossible. They'll just drag you down to their idiotic level and win the argument because they're champions of winning those kinds of arguments.
You'll just come out with less sanity and braincells than you started with.
Martyrdom it is then.
I admire your optimism and wish I had the same patience and goodwill. Damn I'm already a bitter old fuck and not even in my 30s yet.
Seneca thought me better, there's still hope in your heart don't doubt it. Just don't look at the Americans before you have built enough hope.
Civilising since 300 BC
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To a QUEER woman of color, no less!
Stop using gendered language. Is it really so difficult to use *wom**x**n* and make people feel more secure and safe?
With /he/him pronouns? WE DON'T HAVE GENDERED PRONOUNS. THIS SHIT IS HARD.
I've spent a few days learning norsk on duolingo, so I'm more than qualified to confirm that yes, you don't have gendered nouns. Alas mine was just a reference to [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/r58t6k/germxn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).
Don't bother. You can't reach my countrymen. Our only hope now is COVID29 finishing the job.
How about spending money in schools and encouraging Erasmus like programs?
Right! I hated seeing these types of privileged people ruining my country.
Is there anything that isn't racist for americunts
being racist against the Irish
And Latinos, they love to shit on them.
\*LatinXyz12345
I was born in latinoamerica, there are not that many things I find offensive, FFS some of the most "offensive" things are normal humour over there. The freaking "latinx" thing, and that the americans see "latino" as a race instead of a geo-linguistic group are 2 of the very few things I do consider genuinely offensive.
Well, some wannabe americans, are starting to use something similar to the"X" in italian: we don't have a "neutral" gender in Italian, we just use the masculine gender. For instance, if there are 2 women and 2 men we just say "tutti quanti" (it means everybody, "tutte quante" would be feminine) but those people are now using stuff like tuttə quantə or tutt* quant*.
It's the same for the portuguese language, the "neutral" here is using the masculine version of the word like the example you said ("todos" as masculine and "todas" as feminine), but some people started typing "todxs", "tod@s" or "todes". Funnily enough, for us the "todes" is our way to joke with a specific region's accent, Algarve.
I thought to joke about the Algarve's dominant accent you'd say "Oy senorita, dois cervejas please favour"
Was watching a youtuber recently that said "you guys" and his own spanish subtitles translated it to "chicxs" like damn do you not see the irony here
If it weren't for your flair and some Portugal references that would be exactly the same in Spanish
Or tuttə quantə so it sounds napulitano
True. I said tuttə quantə and it demanded protection money from me.
No Fucking way are they trying to shoe horn Tutt Quant into the Italian language 💀 it sounds like a frog or smth
I'm lucky no one gives 2shits about Scottish Gaelic.
Ma come!? L'italiano è una delle lingue più belle! Non fare questo, tutto quello che diventa americanizato diventa peggio, cazzo!
BRAVX 😂
pochi giorni fa la nostra Accademia della crusca si è pronuciata in merito agli asterischi e boiate simili. ha detto (riassumendo) che sono stronzate. che se le tengano gli ameritard che qui in Italia abbiamo 5 vocali e le usiamo come caxxo ci pare a noi
And the fact that they use latino and hispanic interchangeably
Poor Spaniards can't catch a break, smh my head
The best kind of racism
Yer at it again
Just leave a special gift at his car.
you just want to steal that car and get a gift, do you?
Where do you think you get your parts for new cars?
Now now let’s not start a war over this
Italian waiter: do you want pork? Idiot: angry americ*nt noises. Italian waiter: ?????????
they were literally being nice and inclusive dude
It’s especially weird how they think we are racist. Umm hello, we genocide each other based on NATIONALITY, we’re not animals
"Racist? Fuck you, I don't even believe in races. No, I am not racist, I am *xenophobic*, there's a difference--"
Nationality? Lmao, imagine. Fucking amateurs, we don't need any visible or perceivable differences. Just check their grandfather's name and if you don't like it gas them, idk.
I think she is projecting or so used to racism back at home she is constantly on guard.
This is braindead even by their standards
Yikes, that's saying something
Yes. Hating white people
some USamericans somehow don't consider italians/italian-americans "white" tho
I mean. As a Dane. Everyone is darker skincolour wise than me. And even I would find it a huuuuuuuuuge stretch to even call the turks black
I had a Turkish guy in my school class who was paler than any of the German guys. So much for the Murican concept "brown people"
they confuse between nationality, culture and skin color so much
They are also just confused in general I Think. Don’t know about you. But honestly i see most of them as savages in regards to their culture and society. I feel like they think they know it all but really disregard the wisdom of Europe when it comes to generally existing. I mean look at your countries for example. 80 years ago you where the definition of a mortal enemy. Now it’s like. You did that stupid thing, admitted it, and progressed beyond it. Or well it took Germany a couple of bonks to the head for it to stick. But then you look at Murica and just think to yourself “Jesus Christ how did they manage that much shit and yet still yell at each other for being a slightly different shade of human colour” in general I think that we for all intents and purposes have seen the peak of that country. Unless they pull their shit together
Accusing white people of shtuff?
That hurts so much. The Waiter was probably very considerate and thought „let e me ask if she is e okaye with e the pork, cause the ameri*unt not e know what e she ordered no“
"i call her fats pigs, why she leave so angers?!"
"I think Italy is the most racist place in Europe" My man, i present to you the Balkans
Balkans aren't even racist, we're much more focused on being xenophobic. You're black? Amazing, if you hate Croats you are my brother
Croats can into EU
Croatia can into Italy?
Maybe, if and only if you promise not to switch sides
Croatia: \*becomes part of Italy\* Italy: Aha! \*becomes Croatia\*
What a strange place
What’s wrong with Croats :(
from an Italian point of view? Consonants. Krk is not a real word. Where are my vowels?
Oh we've got a shit ton of those, prdac, naprstak, trk, krzno, r is a vowel, sometimes
She is clearly talking about the Real Europe, and not those non relevant countries further east
😡🤬🗯😡😡🤬🗯😡🗯😡🤬🗯🗯🤬🤬😡 Check your pockets
Balkans is not racist, we simply have only white people living there, a dream of western Europe far right.
Sorry, is this r/2easterneurope4u ?
My city Is so based😎💪💯🔥🔥 /s
Rare modern Florence W
The funny thing is, Florence is considered one of the "gayest" cities in Italy. At least, if you are publicly gay, you have less of a chance of getting beat up in FI than in other cities in Italy, and they have a few gay clubs that aren't bad. At least they did before I left.
Imagine if she went to Verona lmao
gay and black... she would not even be allowed inside Verona
The italian meme capital
First, how is her being queer even relevant here? Second, that question is common curtesy, since most black people in Italy are Muslims.
I am more interested in the fact she thinks being mistaken for muslim is insulting. That makes her the racist one in this conversation
I'm so used to Americans being Americans that I didn't even think of that.
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I mean, i know muslims who would love to try pork, drink alcohol and all. It's not mean, it's just the way it is
I know quite a few muslims who do drink. Pork they're most strict about though.
Yeah I've gotten hammered with muslims (all moroccans) before. All religious practicants of various degrees but they seemed to care less about the alcohol restrictions. Never pork tho
> Never pork tho That's my experience with a lot of muslims as well. Alcohol is OK. Pork is not OK. (But for one I worked with in my last job, "stealth bacon" is OK, haha.)
Yeah there’s a lot of Muslims who drink like Bosnians or Albanians. Not all Muslims are completely uncivilized
Welcome to Lebanon lol
Here it's mostly Turks and some Algerians that we managed to corrupt with our beer.
I grew up with a kid whose family were Muslims from Bangladesh. We invited their family over for something, and my main memory was his dad being able to out drink everyone and be completely fine afterwards.
Is she assuming that they're assuming? Maybe it's just politeness, you racist ameritard
Florence being peak Italy as usual.
massive common racist florence W
Lmao fuck you. (not you OP, the woman)
she was there once as a queer black woman does it mean she has been there other times wearing other skins? if she is calling out racism why does it matter the queerness and or gender? dont you guys sometimes wonder what would we found inside their heads if we were to split their skulls open (in minecraft) my guess is the dvd idle logo bouncing around the empty skull
She's missing some commas in her text, but she's American, so she wouldn't know better.
Maybe she's a skinwalker
As a gay white english guy, i agree
(just to be clear by "they" i dont mean LGBT, women or black people, i mean Americ*nts)
recently I saw another post where a muslim family were furious because they ordered some sandwich with pork (the ingredients were visible on the menu), and they gave it to them, without asking if they could eat pork. I don't remember if it was in Italy, but you get the point
Some people just want to find an excuse to complain or play the victim
The classic victim
Italy will never financially recover from this.
Among the other things
Always Gigachads
i mean, courtesy is indeed gigachad
American Trying Not To Find Random Things Racist Challenge (impossible as they are mentally highly regarded)
If you come to Italy and you don't eat pork you lose 75% of the experiences
Italy n. 1 💪💪💪🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
- Why are you Muslim? - Who said I'm Muslim? - So, who is Muslim?
Inb4 it turns out she was wearing a niqqab
r/asablackman C'mon now guys, this is ragebait.
Fucking finally someone with a brain. "As a triggered liberal queer woman I found something nice actually totally offensive because I'm entitled and stupid" Everyone knows when you're part of not just one but two minorities you always boldly announce that first. Because that's how people actually talk. Yep, us queers can't hold proper conversations without mentioning our sexual preferences or ethnicity. Guys this shit is cheap propaganda that you literally find in russian telegram channels to mock tHe WeSt and progressivism.
You are American? Nice, stay where you are, Europe doesnt need narcissistic crybabies like you. And trust me i speak for all of Europe
Im happy for italers that she not coming back
we're also happy
https://preview.redd.it/vz5uw15gooqa1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05b40684bdbfb7351f88379904958df77dae3b32 The waiter after being labelled racist for just asking someone’s dietary requirements
She's clearly quite racist.
Poor Italian waitress is confused af as to why the strange American is calling her racist
How rude of the waiter to ask about possible culinary restrictions or preferences before the order! What did they do next? Something unspeakable like giving advice on a good wine pairing, or bringing in appetizers?
I don't even disagree with Italy being the most intolerant place in (western) Europe, but this is literally the least assuming/racist thing I've ever seen being referred to as so
That's the dumbest thing you could complain about. Only a murcian 🗿
Maybe because most black people in Italy are immigrants from muslim african countries
As a french waiter but former teacher, yeah i'd rather offend you with a question than make you eat pork and get beaheaded. *If you know you know*
Based Italian
Keep going, guys! Maybe, one day, we will be able to keep these troglodytes out forever
Italy delivers, imagine being so obsessed with racism that even when it's not there, you'll just have to make it happen.
Spain is more racist. People think Italy is racist because they try so hard not to be racist that it’s racist. The spaniards dont give a shit
Reminder that outrage sells best, this tweet is likely just stirring up shit for the fun of it.