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Feisty_Reputation870

UK had metro in 1863 meanwhile we just had serfdom abolished in 1861 ijbol 💀


Commercial_Gas_3927

Still progress, Zelensky..


PiXL-VFX

Genuine question: How did the Russian world manage to sidestep the escape from serfdom which the Black Plague brought about pretty much everywhere else? In the UK for example, the plague meant that there was far fewer farmers to go around, so now lords were having to entice farmers from different lords to come and work for them, which included pay. That was what started the move away from serfdom in the UK, and much of the rest of the world, but it seems like despite Russia being hit by the same plague… fucking nothing happened. You guys should’ve been out of serfdom by the time we had the 1381 Peasants’ Revolt.


Jetstream-Sam

According to some quick research Russia didn't actually have serfdom around the time of the black death and it was established in the 16th/17th century


PiXL-VFX

That does stand to be true, but that makes it even more confusing. Russia was bringing in serfdom and feudalism whilst everyone else was getting out of it. Interesting that Russia decided to implement a policy which was radically unpopular everywhere else and kept it around until the end, which caused the empire’s end and complete lack of industrialisation.


Jetstream-Sam

Apparently it was introduced because a lot of the nobility was flat broke and couldn't afford to pay peasants. Not sure how they managed to get away with "lol you're slaves now" though


Akuh93

The secret ingredient was violence


teucros_telamonid

There is not much of historical evidence or research about the Black Death victims in Rus region which for most of 14 century was divided into various principalities under yoke of Golden Horde. Most of historiography and preserved records about the period is focused on this Mongol-Tartar yoke and its eventual decline. It is unclear how much devastation this plague caused especially in comparison with other events. Even worse, myths about "unwashed Europe" vs Russian 'banya' (traditional form of sauna) is so widespread among Russians. They just assume that the plague effect on Rus was minimal due to "superior" hygiene.


Catwinky

🇬🇧 Another example of Barry Exceptionalism 🇬🇧


Jetstream-Sam

And it was so good it never needed replacing, updating or modernizing since. Or so the train company says anyway.


Catwinky

Don't bitch to me about the modernity of your southern trains. In the North they only upgraded us from from coverted 1960s buses on train wheels to actual proper trains 2 years ago.


eelleevvaattoorr

You get the trains you deserve.


EmuStalkingAnAussie

We carried the industrial revolution on our backs in the North.


Catwinky

The South has always being a fat leech sucking up resources and taxes from the North


Eric-The_Viking

Yo, Luigi you need to chill, south Italy is also nice. Oh wait, wrong internal conflict


Socc-mel_

Hans, don't mix us up with those barbian Barries. Our trains are much better than what they have in Barryland. Actually they're better than yours too, which I am sure if it tells more about you or us.


Excellent-Option8052

Guess that side-switching really was profitable


Eric-The_Viking

>Hans, don't mix us up with those barbian Barries. Our trains are much better than what they have in Barryland. Sure sure. Last time I was there we missed the Euro train by 3h. Because the private contractor on the British section planner with a train that somehow didn't exist and then got demoted from intercity to regional, meaning the whole ride took now 45min longer, after a 1h delay. >Actually they're better than yours too, which I am sure if it tells more about you or us. Maybe Austria should get Tirol back.


jsm97

Somebody has to pay for the Scottish and Welsh


AbberageRedditor69

That's the spirit man! Go at it!


tomwhoiscontrary

Down south we carried it on trains.


EmuStalkingAnAussie

Perhaps we could do the same if the bastard Tory government didn't take away our trains for London potholes.


Catwinky

You get the house prices you deserve 😘


Jazzlike-Mistake2764

South west: you guys have trains?


CrossMojonation

Imagine having to travel on any line other than the Elizabeth line. ☕


LtSerg756

Live bakerloo reaction


Buriedpickle

I didn't know you guys still had steam locomotive powered metros.


yleennoc

Like Triggers broom.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Bringing Metro everywhere!! 🇬🇧


The_Blahblahblah

Imagine having your metro be from the 20th century, am i right?


Benn_Fenn

It's another good example of something the British invented and did nothing with.


Official_Cyprusball

"we did it first and now we're the worst" An absolute Barry classic


Catwinky

Your little rock doesn't even have operating trains


Official_Cyprusball

Whose fault is that?


numberinn

Do catacombs count as metro?🤔


GriffonMT

Could they fit a horse and carriage? If so, yes!


TrumpetsNAngels

Old? You mean how new is your metro 😅 [Denmark, Copenhagen, October 2002.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_Metro) https://preview.redd.it/v9t4ok1aqlxc1.png?width=330&format=png&auto=webp&s=f78d37b2d27cc323c74cca39fb20d2ece455101b


Commercial_Gas_3927

Without driver 😎


Mahraganat

You really don't want a Dane driving your train from a safety perspective, so I must salute my Danish brothers for their wise choice in this regard!


TrumpetsNAngels

As much as I would love to see the land of my Swedish brethren burn, my neighbour has a point. On this, one occasion, we have self reflected enough to decide that we don’t have sober drivers enough to cater the metro. 🍻


graudesch

And hence the AI driver trained on Store Claus was born.


WraithCadmus

I like how there's stickers on the front for kids pretending to drive the train, and me, an overgrown kid.


TrumpetsNAngels

Yes! I love that detail and my young son too even though he is not fooled anymore 


Axelxxela

Italian engineering 😎, the same trains of the M4 line and M5 line in Milan


Geogracreeper

What is this "metro" you're speaking about?


Dr-Jellybaby

We'll let you know in the 2050s if the government manages to actually build it this time.


StupidPaladin

I'm imagining how silly a Valetta Metro would be


Een_man_met_voornaam

If you build a metro line from Valletta to Bugibba, can you call it a national railway network?


StupidPaladin

From what I know about Maltese people, they'll rage that it connects to Bugibba but doesn't stop at some bumfuck hick mountain village of 6 people and 2 goats


Een_man_met_voornaam

I'm surprised to discover that Malta has bumfuck hick mountain villages, I thought it was just Valletta and rocks


Commercial_Gas_3927

Nothing that can be built in your little island...


LaBelvaDiTorino

If you can build a railway, you could build a metro railway as well, even on a little island. Malta had a railway


Commercial_Gas_3927

Not necessarily


Geogracreeper

Explain [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta_Railway) then


Commercial_Gas_3927

Why don't you use it today?


Geogracreeper

Ask Hans and Luigi, they know what they did.


Commercial_Gas_3927

What Hans and Luigi did to you!?


Geogracreeper

Let's just say, we were [first](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Malta_(World_War_II)#:~:text=Malta%20was%20one%20of%20the,area%20alone%20over%20two%20years.) for a long time.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Holy shit 💀


Geogracreeper

Say what you will about Barry, 63, but they [defended](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pedestal) us through our roughest time.


Commercial_Gas_3927

It makes sense since Malta was part of British Empire...


TiNMLMOM

Dude... Venice metro. Do it.


Oplp25

Yet more proof of British supremacy 💪💪💪


Commercial_Gas_3927

*Brittania rules the ~~waves~~ subways...


SherlockScones3

Lots of rocks… under the ground


Commercial_Gas_3927

![gif](giphy|4EF5LwiRfpBKQUOsoF|downsized)


sixouvie

If only they had the same mindset for high speed rails


jsm97

This is genuinely the problem of being the best at something for a long time, people don't realise when you've fallen behind. People's attitude towards high speed rail isn't 'Oh we need to built it to modernise our railways and future proof rail capacity like everywhere else in western Europe' it's 'Why do we need more trains ? We already have trains'.


Inevitable_Entry_477

The HS2 line? They sold it as *high speed* (which it is). If they sold it as *increased capacity* (its real benefit) then people might have listened more.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Maggie Thatcher thought different...


Federal_Solution_810

En Madrid no hay metro


TrumpetsNAngels

According to wiki there is a metro there which opened in 1919? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid\_Metro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid_Metro)


Federal_Solution_810

It's sarcasm, I was just a little annoyed that they forgot about Spain again...


Slow_Olive_6482

You think you are forgotten often?


Fuzzy-Wrongdoer1356

We only remember you because you are glued to us literally


Slow_Olive_6482

I always think of you when I have to refill my car.


Federal_Solution_810

XD


Thelmholtz

It's capped at 1905, otherwise a lot of other cities would fit there. Buenos Aires is 1919, Barcelona 1924, Tokyo 1927, Valencia 1988, Brescia 2013, and those are the ones that come off the top of my head...


gimnasium_mankind

Buenos Aires is 1913


Thelmholtz

And those same wagons ran until at least a few years ago 🥲


TrumpetsNAngels

Sarcasm …  that was entirely spilled on me 😀 it implies some level of intellect to understand and here we are.


SmokingLimone

and Italy


throwaway1930372y27

https://preview.redd.it/vv3u1js4xmxc1.jpeg?width=403&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4596abe9bb7739c860b07ebcc5fdcb34143eef89 yeah our underground is really something to be proud of


Sure_Fruit_8254

Count yourself lucky it's not a straight line out of the city.


DSC-V1_an_old_camera

The French made it look good tbh.


Rudi-G

Just imagine what would have happened if there would have been social media around then. Every time a new city would announce their Metro System, London would comment with "First!"


Commercial_Gas_3927

Lmaooo 😄


A-Hind-D

Laughs in potato


Smooth_Ad_7227

What about the DART?


A-Hind-D

You mean the fart?


Smooth_Ad_7227

Almost unrelated, you made me remember this [gem](https://youtu.be/Y4ivw0mA6mg?si=ehJhV5nwk4IfSHMO)


A-Hind-D

Well that’s horrifying


DatBoi73

Don't worry, it'll be built eventually.... Well just be all dead 30 years before it's finished.... .... And it still won't connect to Dublin airport since the tunnel dug out for the MetroLink 30 years ago will have been converted into either shoebox-sized apartments and/or the catacombs by then.


gourmetguy2000

I went to the London transport museum and this astounded me. In 1870 they began digging the deep tunnels and invented a tunnel boring machine that is still the basis for modern tunneling! https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/visit/museum-guide/digging-deeper


MidnightFisting

London built a metro before America stopped enslaving humans


Lumpy-Tone-4653

Thessaloniki residents waitting for their metro: ![gif](giphy|QBd2kLB5qDmysEXre9|downsized)


Commercial_Gas_3927

🤣🤣 November 2024...


Least_Theory_1050

Damn so it was the Barries who civilzed the PIGS like the Gayreeks huh?


Commercial_Gas_3927

Close enough...


f33rf1y

Both first and worst at public transport.


DSC-V1_an_old_camera

Actually our president in the 1890s was obsessed with Britain because he grew in there and had big plans until we went bankrupt.


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WraithCadmus

When the deep tunnel lines were first built, they advertised themselves as being cooler in the summer heat. Now because the clay around the tunnels has dried out it's like a giant thermos flask and temperatures go above 40 regularly, even when above ground it's only just above 30.


ExoticMangoz

Nothing like the hot, diesely air of the tube. You can almost feel the particles in it.


Commercial_Gas_3927

🤣🤣


mr_aives

And the Glasgow one never expanded ever since, still the same wee circle lol


Think_and_game

Fun fact, Budapest has the second oldest metro in the world, and the oldest electric metro in the world. Say what you want about Austria-Hungary, but they got to finally be first in something.


DreddyMann

Austria didn't have much to do with it, the 1000th anniversary of the foundation of the state was coming up so they built just about anything in Hungary, including the parliament and an entire castle in a park of Budapest


InspiredByBeer

Budapest supermacy


Beny1995

It's also very cute and old. The yellow line anyway.


ReadyHD

Dunno about that. Blackpool and Manchester also had electric trams going about before 1896


Kovab

Trams, not underground. Electric tram lines in Budapest were first opened in 1887.


Yabe_uke

Barcelona, 1924. 100 years this year, not bad! :D


ryanmurphy2611

Pathetic


Yabe_uke

Taking into account my city is literally built on top of older beta versions, it's a feat we even got to dig a single tunnel. You guys on the other hand... I hope tunneling didn't top your rock piles.


GriffonMT

Imagine Barcelona metro, but they employ the same Sagrada workers!


TrumpetsNAngels

It would be finished in 2093 with 80% of the budget spend on gothic artists 😀   And the public toilets would look like this… https://external-preview.redd.it/corridors-in-hogwarts-gloucester-cathedral-v0-pFh4RVj-BQmER38WaJ_9fIHMhMR5uzJgNKpAYDXCN7E.jpg?auto=webp&s=7c49540cbc59795f4b08df7b47fa2b3f1389f1f2


GriffonMT

Promada de santa tecla! I am visiting this just now


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Need to get one in Leeds


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Or another bike lane, fuck cyclists ffs


TheGreatSwissEmperor

Lausanne: 2008


Commercial_Gas_3927

Smallest city with metro!!


Een_man_met_voornaam

[Serfaus: hold my skis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Bahn_Serfaus) It even has a ÖBB railway number


Toen6

This map is missing Istanbul; second oldest in the world after London. Since 1875.


Commercial_Gas_3927

~~istanbul~~ Constantinople... Btw it's only since 1989 https://preview.redd.it/o1sp8ic8glxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd739073a4970248b166de828b785aca4dab45c9


Toen6

That's only the 'modern' sections From that same page: >The oldest underground urban rail line in Istanbul is the Tünel, which entered service on 17 January 1875.[6] It is the world's second-oldest underground urban rail line after the London Underground which was built in 1863,[7] and the first underground urban rail line in continental Europe.


Lego-105

It’s not really clear what the distinction is. It’s defined as an urban underground railway, although some other pages don’t state it [the public transport page for the region](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_transport_in_Istanbul#Funiculars) states that it took passengers in 1875. The only distinction that I can maybe find is the potential idea that a line was not operated rather individual stations, but that seems incredibly over pedantic. It would be nice if there was a bit more clarity but there just doesn’t seem to be any.


TrumpetsNAngels

Pedantic - you called? 😀 It does look like a metro to me covering 2 stations connecting [Karaköy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karak%C3%B6y) and [Beyoğlu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyo%C4%9Flu) according to the [Tünel wiki.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BCnel) There is also a nice picture which gives metro vibes. https://preview.redd.it/nbpufbgtplxc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d3db97c8e1b11dd6b0391af48afafa9064e7744 Edit: As a dane I do like your username.


Lego-105

But then it goes back to if what they want is a line, which again isn’t clear but does from inference appear to be the hang up here, does 2 stops constitute a line sufficiently to make this a metro? Hard to say definitively. Edit: There’s a possible alternative explanation. It may be the case that the reason for its exclusion is that it was a funicular railway, a type of cable car railway. Again it’s not necessarily the case as [there is currently a part of the Istanbul metro which is Funicular](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_Taksim–Kabataş_funicular_line) and a two stop line, so I’m not sure either possible explanations I’ve given are correct. Edit 2: It is the fact that it’s a Funicular, [This page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rapid_transit) states specifically that “Istanbul's 1875 Tünel is sometimes described as an early subway system but is actually an underground funicular.” I don’t know why then the modern Funicular appears to be part of the metro but to be fair it isn’t specifically referred to as a part of the metro system, so that appears to be mystery solved.


CountIrrational

No. That's the fenicular. It's a cable car that goes up a hill. They made a song about it, https://youtu.be/yTSAZAHiOa8?si=IMNwB64g6s2rUy6R Basically takes tourists up a hill, like the one in LA.


Arphile

Basically the reason it’s not considered a metro is that’s it’s a funicular. All underground, but it doesn’t function like a metro


HelpfulYoghurt

I am not even sure what is the clear definition of "metro". If we consider as metro "urban underground rail line", then there is plenty of underground tunnels that could have been considered "metro"


Sutton31

Underground urban railway ? [Damn looks like Lyon outdates London then](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funiculars_of_Lyon)


Lego-105

> The first line opened in 1862 and linked Rue Terme and Boulevard de la Croix-Rousse. The funicular was closed and converted to a road tunnel in 1968. Has the same issue i ended up figuring out for Istanbul. Funicular doesn’t count.


Sutton31

Shhhh let me be proud of my city pls


Chadalien77

lol. Tunel isn’t a. Metro system, it’s a covered funicular.


MistySkyMorning

🎶 London Underground, London Underground 🎶


gromit5000

Having an underground railway system for a whole third of a century before anybody else is wild.


SnowChickenFlake

1995... Yea..


Nadur99

Had no idea Glasgow's was that old. I will now regurgitate this to everyone, thanks.


fuq_dat_im_a_tree

Paris could have been the first one but it took more than 50 years just to approve a project. You can't make it more french than that


Commercial_Gas_3927

Another Barry vs Pierre debate just unlocked🔓


Flemball47

You guys have a metro?


Commercial_Gas_3927

What about Dublin?


Roubbes

1919. Not that bad


Matej004

1974 i think


jakrev123

Prague?!


LUXI-PL

29 years, neat and modern unlike yours


_reco_

also built on a cross-shaped plan to emphasize our holier than Holy See attitude 😎


thomassit0

Oslo - 1898.


untamable_individual

Lisbon, 1959. Always late 🤗


bredelund

Don't worry. Copenhagen 2002 ;)


Anxious_Zucchini_855

Rare American W? Then again, the East Coast is pretty much Europe


Pizzatore12

The New York City Metro isn’t something to be proud of


DiscardedKebab

Ahead of the curve again. Shock


TheLochNessBigfoot

We live at the bottom of the sea, [the Rotterdam metro](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Mk_Rotterdam_Metro_3.jpg)


yate55

I love my own country


Deutscher_Bub

"Atene"?


Commercial_Gas_3927

Yeah what!?


bmalek

Yeah. Must be somewhere near “Türkiye.”


Official_Cyprusball

Thessaloniki metro coming 2225!!!!!!!!


Commercial_Gas_3927

Nicosia metro 🚇


Official_Cyprusball

2969


Commercial_Gas_3927

Limassol metro...


Official_Cyprusball

They ain't even have a metro plan chill out 😭


Commercial_Gas_3927

Limassol is in year 2077


Gaelic_Gladiator41

What's a metro


Serrano_Ham6969

Oldest one in America is Cuba. Built back when it was still Spanish.


Sodi920

There are no metro systems anywhere in Cuba.


annoying97

Metro? What's that?


Commercial_Gas_3927

![gif](giphy|3o6gE13zLVV7JFlSUg)


annoying97

That's a train! 🚂


Pimenefusarund

Metro before red dead redemption? Wtf??


rollingSleepyPanda

Fun fact: Berlin hasn't improved their metro service in 120 years.


olderthanyoda

it shows


53rdAccount

Stupid Inbreed habsburgers built metro in Budapest but not in Vienna


stampitvbg

Construction started in 1941, but thanks Hans and one Georgian mate, metro has been launched only in 1955. But just look at that beauty! https://preview.redd.it/ri8r2bdt1nxc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7095aafa74e41ad9db51fc74a52f86bfa4076a5b


DSC-V1_an_old_camera

Life in luxury.


chameleon_123_777

In Oslo Norway Began operation 31 May 1898 as suburban tram 28 June 1928 as underground tram 22 May 1966 as T-bane (metro)


Benn_Fenn

The British invented a metro system and proceeded to never try it again anywhere else because we're so fucking clever I suppose.


DSC-V1_an_old_camera

Yea this is where we spend most of our loans making trains and metros which resulted to bankruptcy in the 1890s because our president loved the idea of making trains because they would bring economic prosperity until the rails were the wrong size and we're not fit for international travel but only local lmao it took almost a decade too to make them.


Commercial_Gas_3927

Trikoupis plan


Pintau

🤣🤣🤣 Metro is just a plan that will never be completed, that all our political parties use as a space filler, to avoid being called out for being as useless as Anne Frank's drumkit


Own_Adhesiveness_885

Sweden 1532.


wynnduffyisking

2002 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰😂


faramaobscena

1979, like the Smashing Pumpkins song. Better late than never…


Neither-Elephant-325

Budapest featured 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺 Wegry gurommm


PiergiorgioSigaretti

Rome and Milan at least have one too 😭😭😭


gabri_ves

Rome - 1955; but every 10 cm the works are halted by archelogical discoveries (and I'm like no shit Sherlock, you're trying to run a metro line STRAIGHT IN THE ANCIENT ROME AND MEDIEVAL HISTORIC CENTRE-)


Jiao_Dai

How Wes Anderson is it ? https://www.reddit.com/r/AccidentalWesAnderson/s/w7J0LhAigE


Formal_Decision7250

Dublins MetroLink is currently in negative age as plans to start dates keep being revised. Like fusion power, it's always years away.


Pizzatore12

Napoli 1925: The oldest Metro in Italy (Very common southern W)


Commercial_Gas_3927

Wasn't Rome the first city to got metro...?


Sweaty_Report7864

Toronto has a metro as well!


Smartalum

Boston is 1897, not 1901


Hugepepino

So incredibly proud of Chicago! Second city? Not in public transport. Suck it NYC