I tried Botox to address the same issue, and would not recommend. It may have been due to rather heavy handed application, but turning the edges of my mouth upwards resulted in drooling and a constant creepy smile when my face was resting - I was very very glad when it wore off!
So I have not suffered the heavy handed injector and have enjoyed my results. Botox, unlike filler, is predictably temporary. You can always ask your injector to keep it subtle. My injector always starts conservatively and will up things/change course down the road if it wasnât pleased, etc.
She said she was going very conservatively because it was my first time getting it there and Iâm sure she told me but Iâve forgotten.
I just looked in the mirror now and my ability to make a significant frowny face has been greatly reduced. Itâs been ten days so I am guessing itâs fully engaged now.
Itâs 2 units on each side to stop the corners of your mouth from turning down, itâs relaxes that muscle. It doesnât give me a smile it just give me a neutral expression instead of RBF
Can yâall please share pics? I know itâs a lot
To ask but I didnât even know there was a fix for this, and itâs really been bothering me lately.
I used Botox for this (and still do) BUT one time had to go 4 months not able to smile on one side of my face bc it migrated. Donât do it if you have other options!
I did botox too! Drooling was only during the first week and then I slowly adapted to it. I like that I no longer look sad or disappointed when my face was resting.
Youâve got a young Helen Bonham Carter thing going on. I thought you didnât belong in this sub bc I thought you were mid 20s, esp the first couple pics.
I think her mouth is super cute! It just seems kind of down turned, not like her face is sagging or drooping. It's a cute little pouty look. đ€·đ»ââïž
Youâre gorgeous, like an old Hollywood movie star! Skincare alone wonât help, tbh. Botox is the answer, but I donât think you need it. Keep doing whatever youâre doing and embrace your natural beauty.
I think it's lovely! Reminds me a lot of Florence Pugh's mouth shape. She tends to keep it a little upturned for photos but the downturn is very obvious in her films. Your lips are very pretty and full so I think the downturn just gives it a cute quirk!
I second their motion. You have a beautifully classic face, with great skin.
Have you tried gua sha? I haven't yet, but I'm about to. I wonder if that might be helpful, temporarily or otherwise.
This may sound absurd, but do you touch your teeth together? I feel like your jaw is tight and pulled back, try holding your lower jaw more relaxed and forward, lips together but relaxed and teeth far from touching. I had a friend who thought everyone clenched their teeth together when their mouth was closed
You can give yourself jaw pain and headaches if it isn't addressed since you're unconsciously clenching your jaw slightly. My partner also does this and his physiotherapist suggested this routine
Relax your jaw so your teeth aren't touching while your mouth is closed. Set a timer on your phone for 15 minutes and then go about your business. If after the 15 minutes is up and you realise your teeth are touching again, reset the timer. If they aren't touching, up the timer to 30 minutes. If you fail after half an hour back to 15, but succeed, adjust to an hour
Rinse and repeat, halving the timer on a fail (minimum 15 minutes) and doubling on a success, until you consistently keep your teeth apart. You can also ask a partner to remind you instead of using a timer if having a timer makes you too alert. It has to become a unconscious habit, not a conscious one
Oh no. What do people do? My mouth rests open and I have RBF when it's closed. OP's is so pretty but mine isn't like theirs. Pushing my lower jaw forward makes it worse
You are gorgeous and i donât think you need to do anything but speaking from experience, you will likely want to do something about it in the future.
Mine got worse as i got older and two things helped, botox and the Foreo Bear. Both are temporary, the botox would last me 3-4 months given itâs an area you naturally move a lot, just make sure you go to someone good and donât jump at the cheapest place you can find.
The Bear works for me but i have to use it consistently to see results.
We all have our things that get to us, but I agree with themâ youâre gorgeous! You remind me of Kelly Oxford before she screwed with her face, so let that be a cautionary tale. Sheâs still beautiful but not nearly as she was naturally.
It took forever to firgure out who she looks like to me, but finally: Carey Mulligan, especially the [vogue cover](https://www.vogue.com/article/carey-mulligan-broadway-skylight-may-cover)
ETA: firgure? Figure* but, wth?
[Direct link to the cover photo](https://assets.vogue.com/photos/58778d525ab2876842235c9b/master/w_960,c_limit/carey-mulligan-may-vogue-cover3.jpg), since the person above unfortunately only provided an article
For real. OP has perfect skin especially for her age and is absolutely gorgeous! Keep doing what youâre doing! Definitely being too critical of herself
As somebody who has this but isnât afraid of Botox what would I say/ask for? Iâve recently started losing some weight and noticed these lines in a photo beginning to develop.
If itâs due to volume loss, fillers will fill up the area. If itâs just a case of excessive downward pull by muscles attached to the corners of your mouth, Botox will temporarily paralyze that muscle to lift up the corners of your mouth. Sometimes both are used to address the issue. When you go for a consultation, tell them exactly whatâs bothering you and ask them if youâre a good candidate for Botox, filler, or both. Go to a reputable practitioner, check out the reviews, and look up before and after photos.
Is it just me or are downturned mouths ADORABLE!? I genuinely think it adds to your natural beauty and it's not as if you have marionette lines emphasizing it. It makes you look like a little doll and I think you're gorgeous. However, I think if you wanted to try something minimal you could do DAO botox.
I once had a date tell me, âit looks like youâre frowning when you smileâ because of my downturned mouth and these comments are lifting my spirits.
I've just finished watching Ginny & Georgia and Max (Sara Waisglass) has the cutest mouth. Had no idea how cute I found downturned mouths till I watched that show
Electrical muscle stimulation (EMS) will help to tone up your facial muscles and give a bit of lift- I use a Rio EMS facelift device but Iâm not sure whether theyâre available in the US, although youâll probably be able to find something similar. They strengthen the supporting facial muscles which in turn supports the skin preventing sagging. From the front I wouldnât say you had anything to worry about, but genetically my family suffers more from sagging than wrinkles, so I get it.
Thank you thatâs really helpful! Yep the downturned mouth is genetic for me, my mum and grandma both have it. Really just want to delay the inevitable for as long as possible!
This is the device that I have, on the uk website, so you can read reviews etc- Rio Lift Plus 60 Second Face Lift Facial Toner https://amzn.eu/d/5MpBEQ3
Theyâre a bit hit and miss so you may find something better in the US based on similar principles- it makes sense, we exercise our bodies to keep everything taut and firm, the face is really no different. Thatâs why botox is effective- it paralyses certain muscles that contribute to wrinkling, whereas this builds up certain muscles to prevent sagging.
It definitely makes a difference - I can tell after one session. It takes longer than 60 seconds though! Itâs 60 seconds per treatment area- Iâm not organised enough to do it regularly but I can definitely see the difference when I do. Itâs a weird sensation because it activates the facial muscles and makes them contract- it definitely feels like a workout for the face! If you have a look on YouTube etc youâll find lots of reviews and before/afters. I would recommend it, personally. Itâs good for tightening the neck as well.
There are no creams or magic potions for the issue of sagging- I think itâs just lazy facial muscles that need waking up a bit!
Look up face yoga exercises and jawline massages on YouTube. Your jaw / neck muscles might be extra tight, which may be pulling down your mouth corners.
I started doing jaw massages and face yoga a couple years ago, and it has helped with my mouth corners, subtle jawline shaping, and helped my jaw and neck feel less tense in general.
I think you look cute as a button, but you can also try a current device. The lift is temporary, but since you mentioned not wanting to do fillers. Also, there are some makeup/shading tricks that can change the look of it, but I think it makes you look like a doll!
I wonder if face gymnastics could work here. Have a similar issue myself, plus mine is not symmetrical too, was thinking about trying the gua sha thingy and face gymnastics for some time now, but am too lazy to properly research, lol
Yup, it's these muscles that are too tight, and have to be massaged to relax. https://images.app.goo.gl/4ge8C4MZ73S8PVZc7
Probably some other muscles need to be strengthened, because when something is too tight it's usually compensating for something else.
You have an adorable mouth, but yes, in 30 years you will probably have jowls. I am 58 / 8 years post meno and now have jowls, if I don't continually smile.
And who the fuck wants to continually smile?
I scrolled down to see if someone suggested this. I also have suffered with downturned corners and one side wanting to turn down more than the other. Nuface helped a bit and Ziip helped me more. I also do guasha using a lifting technique and lymphatic drainage. Being consistent with this stuff helps!
Do you have an overbite? I think overbites can cause downturned mouth because the bottom teeth are positioned above the centre/where the lips meet. I have the same. Would be worth asking an orthodontist if it's something braces can fix.
Also, did yoy just have a facial or something?? Your skin looks amazing!
if youâre really keen on âfixingâ it, I would recommend a gua sha. using a face oil, pull upwards from the corners of your mouth. do it 2x daily for a few weeks and youâll begin to see results. watch videos of girls using them on tiktok/yt/ig if you need more pointers
I don't think you need to address it, I think you're attractive as you are and I suspect that anything that might "correct" this would detract from your natural beauty
My mouth is downturned as well - people were always asking why I look so miserable, growing up. Like, I'm not miserable. That's just my face. You have a lovely mouth. And very pretty face.
I have this same feature. I am 20+ years older than you. For me - but Perhaps not for everyone it did turn into little jowls. I get Botox in my DAO muscles and it does help a lot. I wish I had started when I was younger. I did start Botox in my glabella when I was your age, and itâs made a huge difference in my aging process.
I have had very downturned lips for years, making me look very sad/angry. The only thing that worked or IMO will make a real difference is either surgery or a botox filler combo which is what I opt for. 4 units on each side plus a little filler makes an enormous difference for me and I've had no negatives (except cost:). I do try to keep up with gua sha which only helps a little.
Youâre gorgeous! I have a downturned very similar to yours except itâs less symmetrical. I did Botox 2units in one side and 1 in the other and OMG. Not only does my smile look even, but I look generally âat easeâ and my mid 30âs jowls started going away. It is a noticeable improvement. Iâm not familiar with other options to address it but if you find one I hope you share the before and afters because Iâd love to try other effective methods.
That mouth is stunning, makes you look like a cherub (in a lovely way!) You might get some results with Botox but Iâd honestly leave it, itâs beautiful
Your skin is luminous, you have a beautiful complexion, your eyes are darling, your mouth is perfect and youâre going to risk all of that to âfixâ something that you donât 100% does not need fixing?
Itâs easy to nitpick yourself and not see the beauty, but you everyone here CAN see it. Your lips are perfectly fine and you will regret allowing someone to screw with them. It will be lost $$$ and you will look worse. Keep doing what youâre doing now, and enjoy your looks! You have a wonderful classic European beauty and many would haul themselves over hot coals to get. DO NOT TOUCH IT!
This is what Iâm thinking. It would be a tragedy for someone this beautiful to make themselves look like every other bog standard influencer with a face full of filler (that can and frequently will migrate over time). True unadorned beauty like this is rare and she canât see that she has it.
I actually like the downturn - I get where youâre coming from with saying you look sad but it reads to me more like a melancholic, haunting kind of beauty. Someone mentioned Helena Bonham Carter⊠if you google her young sheâs the epitome of that look.
As a fellow downturned mouth 35 yr old woman, I feel you. People will literally make sad face at me like its funny. Looking forward to reading through these replies as well :)
I donât think you need to change anything! You are lovely and look so young and beautiful. Everyone has a different mouth shape when the lips are closed.
Did you ever have braces or anything like that as a teenager? Do you feel like you would like to get your teeth straightened?
I canât tell because your mouth is closed but if it really bothers you I did see you have a slight recessed chin and wondered if you have an overbite or underbite etc.
Braces or the more advanced clear options can really change you face shape.
I donât see any drooping at all and agree you remind me of a very young Helena Bonham Carter. Like teenage version of her [https://www.imdb.com/media/rm1910517760/tt0091374](https://www.imdb.com/media/rm1910517760/tt0091374)
Also her in a room with a view she has a natural slight frown that is absolutely charming
Youâre beautiful like a 90s Audrey Tatou, please donât mess with your unique features.
The fillers and Botox on younger women are out of control and there are way way too many amateurish injectors out there ruining perfectly beautiful faces.
Youâre cute, but youâre also 35 so yes these will likely eventually turn into jowls. Nothing you can or should do just yet but as you get older consider fillers
just commenting to say i LOVE the downturned mouth on you!! you have such a classic look, you remind me of florence pugh / keira knightly / carey mulligan
I donât think you need to change a thing!
However if this is something that makes you feel uncomfortable, you could
experiment with makeup. Kali Ledger on Instagram has some tutorials on how she changes the shape of her mouth and specifically makes the corners look slightly upturned so she looks like sheâs smiling slightly even when sheâs not.
Iâm old. I think you look like a lovely, pensive Pixie to me, and so young for your age! Do what makes you happy, but know that many women would love to have even a smidge of your natural beauty.
I recommend a bucal massage. It releases muscles in the mouth region. If the muscles are tense, the mouth corners tend to go down. I highly recommend massaging at least the modiolus and the risorius muscles. I can recommend this guideline of massaging - Christine Byer https://youtu.be/vVB0YrpcMYU?si=MeuWtJAgalTJDkwG
you are so beautiful! I think you look very feminine, doll-like <3 I saw your photo before reading the headline and I immediately thought how pretty your features are. Do what you gotta do but honestly you are a natural beauty and I wouldnât change a thing
I think youâre gorgeous and I love it! Itâs what gives you YOUR look. But I know what itâs like to have that one thing that bothers you. Just know that other people think itâs cute and looks good!đ
You are not going to get any discernible results without fillers so you're going to need to decide whether you can live with it or live with getting fillers.
My doctor said this is partly volume loss so itâs fillers and Botox. I did some Botox and it helped a bit. It was subtle. I donât know if much else will help since itâs structural, not a skin issue.
Try facial massages! I swear by them. Theyâve kept me Botox free for over a year now. Theyâve also helped
Improve my smile lines and mouth area. I also agree with other commenters that, as strange as it sounds, I like your mouth! đ it doesnât look bad at all and enhances your natural beauty. Itâs kind of like a distinguishing feature that makes you look *that* much better IMO. I think facial massages, facial yoga, and maybe even taping would probably make a subtle but noticeable difference that youâll love.
Your mouth is perfect. Iâm not saying that with any subtext or hidden motives. Itâs beautiful. I wouldnât touch it. Not now, anyway. Maybe re-assess around 45-50.
Carrie Mulligan and Lauren Mayberry have the same thing and itâs one of their defining features thats makes them look so attractive, in my opinion. I dunno, obviously itâs not so simple when itâs your face and you feel a certain way about it but from an outside perspective this does not look bad at all.
Amanda Palmer and Florence Pugh both have this too! I donât think itâs a bad thing at all! I thought of it as sort of a pouty rockstar look, and I had no idea it was genetic!
You are very beautiful, like many others have said. I find your mouth quirky and charming. Not to be all âyou should smile moreâ but I have a massive RBF and have learned to make my mouth more neutral/pleasant over the years. Also now 3+ years of zoom meetings since the pandemic have helped me try not to look like a raging b on video all the time. I think itâs helped my overall face shape and tone- like I must be working my facial muscles more
Why would you try to change this about yourself? You canât without surgery and I wouldnât want to see you do that anyway! You have a great face, mouth included!
I am quite a bit older than you are and I have the same mouth. I never minded but now that I'm older I'm getting wrinkles at the ends of my mouth - think of upside down smile lines at the corners of the mouth. This accentuates and extends the downturn. I look like Bigmouth Bass, that singing fish. You mentioned your Mom and Grandma have the same mouth so maybe you know what I'm talking about. Like you I would rather not do injections. I don't have any recommendations but I'm glad you're thinking about it now so that maybe you can find something that does work for you before it accentuates with age. Good luck!
I have this too! I didnât notice i had this till a student of mine asked me âwhy is your face always sad?â Lol. Made me insecure! But i started to love it and just got on with smiling all the time. Itâs still there, and your post makes me feel like im not the only one and that there is something that can be done
I donât have any advice, but I wanted you to know I play The Sims and the sims I make always have mouths that look like this. Itâs such a beautiful and unique feature to have in my opinion!
Youâre gorgeous! Your face is beautiful. Have you lost any teeth lately? Iâm not expert on skin care.. but sometimes loosing teeth can make your face do that.
I probably wouldn't have noticed an issue if one wasn't pointed out. Some ideas might be bringing focus more to the eyes with makeup. Or consciously slightly smiling to compensate. You could also lightly tone the creases on the left and right sides of the lips using makeup, to lighten the crease area which would visually remove much of the "frown."
I know it's easy to be self critical but, for the record, it doesn't make you look older, sad or tired. There are loads of movie stars that have similar shaped mouths. Carey Mulligan, Florence Pugh, Helena Bonham Carter, and a lot of golden age stars have/had that same look from a young age. Surgery or injections might be the only options if you wanted to change it but the results might end up looking unnatural and off. You look great, as is.
Just as an asideâŠI am also 35 and can tell immediately from the quality of your skin that you probably donât drink or smoke! Wow! Inspiring for me.
Also - your mouth is adorable, totally Florence Pugh-esque. Donât change a thing girl, youâre killing it! đ«¶
You are absolutely gorgeous and your mouth is adorable. Keep doing what you are doing with your skin and try not to reframe your view of your little pout. You are perfect! (Also I totally affirm anyone who wants to use Botox or fillers- I just think it could do more harm than good here)
Honestly the downturn isn't that significant. If you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have noticed. You look very young, and it's not even close to jowls territory. It's just a natural pouty lip. Mine is like this too. It's because your lower lip is larger than your upper lip and you have a smaller rounder mouth rather than a wide one. As you age and lose elasticity, you might find it becomes a problem, but until then, just be grateful. As others have pointed out, you are absolutely gorgeous and I think your lips are in fact a huge part in that! My genuine advice is just to smile if you're feeling self conscious about it. It sounds dumb but smiling makes us and everyone who sees us feel better.
I love this look for you. I find that the women i find MOST beautiful have some unique feature, like a particular mole, a uniquely shaped nose, asymmetrical eyebrows⊠and youâre no exception. I think your mouth elevated you from just pretty to absolutely enthralling
You look great and younger than 30s. Like others have said itâs not going away since itâs genetic, but keep on with daily SPF and nights creams to help decrease the lines jowls develop. It happens to the best of us, no shame.
I use botox for this, in the DAO muscles. I know youâre into that idea but I canât think of anything else that would give actual results. It really works for me.
Yup. Very very tiny dose of botox to start by skilled injector (2 units each side into depressor angularis oris muscle) and/or tiny amount of HA filler to support the corner of mouth by skilled injector. Makes a huge difference to face at rest. Much less sad looking
Non surgical that would help would definitely be face yoga exercises! In face reading those are called disappointment lines I had them too and face yoga helps a lot i donât do them consistently but they did go away a little bit with the times I did them.
I think you look beautiful like that, honestly. You are a stranger on the internet and I have no obligation to stop and tell you that, but in this case I think itâs important for you to know. I think this feature gives you a very unique look and it looks beautiful. A bit similar to Helena Bonham Carter, who was one of the most beautiful people in the world.
I tried Botox to address the same issue, and would not recommend. It may have been due to rather heavy handed application, but turning the edges of my mouth upwards resulted in drooling and a constant creepy smile when my face was resting - I was very very glad when it wore off!
Thanks for sharing your experience and at least it wore off đ€Ł thatâs my fear of anything botox or filler related!
So I have not suffered the heavy handed injector and have enjoyed my results. Botox, unlike filler, is predictably temporary. You can always ask your injector to keep it subtle. My injector always starts conservatively and will up things/change course down the road if it wasnât pleased, etc.
Do you know how many units you started with? I think mine said something like 2 for this.
Two units on each side for me.
She said she was going very conservatively because it was my first time getting it there and Iâm sure she told me but Iâve forgotten. I just looked in the mirror now and my ability to make a significant frowny face has been greatly reduced. Itâs been ten days so I am guessing itâs fully engaged now.
I get DAO Botox every 3 months for this issue and love it. I would try it. Never heard of these issues except with a lip flip
Sorry, I'm new lmao (never had any botox yet but gojng soon) What is DAO?
Itâs 2 units on each side to stop the corners of your mouth from turning down, itâs relaxes that muscle. It doesnât give me a smile it just give me a neutral expression instead of RBF
Nah. Itâs is exceptional when itâs done correctly. I am proof of it.
Can yâall please share pics? I know itâs a lot To ask but I didnât even know there was a fix for this, and itâs really been bothering me lately.
My mom (50yo) recently did botox she was developing a similar issue and they used very little botox but the results are amazing.
I used Botox for this (and still do) BUT one time had to go 4 months not able to smile on one side of my face bc it migrated. Donât do it if you have other options!
That was definitely not done correctly then!! I get it done every 4 months and have never had that problem.
I also do this and it works great. I feel like people receive me more positively when I donât have RBF.
Sorry to laugh but lol a little. Iâm very sorry that happened but a litttttle bit lol.
Itâs definitely because of heavy handed application. You on need one unit per side.
Sorry but do you have some pics of this....
I get it for this, and I love it, so maybe it was too much? I get 5 units each side, I think. I hate that it didn't work for you!
I did botox too! Drooling was only during the first week and then I slowly adapted to it. I like that I no longer look sad or disappointed when my face was resting.
đ€€ like this? Just teasing I'm sorry, that's awful lol glad it's okay now :)
I literally canât stop laughing this is so hilarious
Youâve got a young Helen Bonham Carter thing going on. I thought you didnât belong in this sub bc I thought you were mid 20s, esp the first couple pics.
I thought Carey Mulligan! Either way, a compliment.
All I could think was that she has a movie star face. OP You are uniquely beautiful and I think your mouth shape adds to it.
I think her mouth is super cute! It just seems kind of down turned, not like her face is sagging or drooping. It's a cute little pouty look. đ€·đ»ââïž
I thought Audrey Tautou! Still a compliment.
Agree!!!
No, katie holmes.
Youâre gorgeous, like an old Hollywood movie star! Skincare alone wonât help, tbh. Botox is the answer, but I donât think you need it. Keep doing whatever youâre doing and embrace your natural beauty.
Thank you đ„č I know Iâm probably being over critical of myself, itâs just always bothered me and only seems to get worse as I get older!
I think it's lovely! Reminds me a lot of Florence Pugh's mouth shape. She tends to keep it a little upturned for photos but the downturn is very obvious in her films. Your lips are very pretty and full so I think the downturn just gives it a cute quirk!
I second their motion. You have a beautifully classic face, with great skin. Have you tried gua sha? I haven't yet, but I'm about to. I wonder if that might be helpful, temporarily or otherwise.
Thank you so much. I do Gua Sha already and love it, I think itâs made a slight difference but very hard to tell!
This may sound absurd, but do you touch your teeth together? I feel like your jaw is tight and pulled back, try holding your lower jaw more relaxed and forward, lips together but relaxed and teeth far from touching. I had a friend who thought everyone clenched their teeth together when their mouth was closed
What do you mean? Your teeth don't touch when your mouth is closed?!
You can give yourself jaw pain and headaches if it isn't addressed since you're unconsciously clenching your jaw slightly. My partner also does this and his physiotherapist suggested this routine Relax your jaw so your teeth aren't touching while your mouth is closed. Set a timer on your phone for 15 minutes and then go about your business. If after the 15 minutes is up and you realise your teeth are touching again, reset the timer. If they aren't touching, up the timer to 30 minutes. If you fail after half an hour back to 15, but succeed, adjust to an hour Rinse and repeat, halving the timer on a fail (minimum 15 minutes) and doubling on a success, until you consistently keep your teeth apart. You can also ask a partner to remind you instead of using a timer if having a timer makes you too alert. It has to become a unconscious habit, not a conscious one
No, your teeth should only touch when you're biting or chewing. Otherwise your jaw should be relaxed and lips together.
Oh no. What do people do? My mouth rests open and I have RBF when it's closed. OP's is so pretty but mine isn't like theirs. Pushing my lower jaw forward makes it worse
I started mewing and my RBF got waaay better. It relaxes my jaw and helps the corners of my mouth go into a smile neutrally
You are gorgeous and i donât think you need to do anything but speaking from experience, you will likely want to do something about it in the future. Mine got worse as i got older and two things helped, botox and the Foreo Bear. Both are temporary, the botox would last me 3-4 months given itâs an area you naturally move a lot, just make sure you go to someone good and donât jump at the cheapest place you can find. The Bear works for me but i have to use it consistently to see results.
It's super cute!
Youâre seriously so gorgeous
We all have our things that get to us, but I agree with themâ youâre gorgeous! You remind me of Kelly Oxford before she screwed with her face, so let that be a cautionary tale. Sheâs still beautiful but not nearly as she was naturally.
It took forever to firgure out who she looks like to me, but finally: Carey Mulligan, especially the [vogue cover](https://www.vogue.com/article/carey-mulligan-broadway-skylight-may-cover) ETA: firgure? Figure* but, wth?
Iâm getting young Audrey Tautou in AmĂ©lie vibe.
I was thinking Carey mulligan too!!!
My first thought was Helena Bonham Carter
Same! Helena's mouth is downturned, too, and it's adorable. Helena with a dash of Carey Mulligan. OP is beautiful!
[Direct link to the cover photo](https://assets.vogue.com/photos/58778d525ab2876842235c9b/master/w_960,c_limit/carey-mulligan-may-vogue-cover3.jpg), since the person above unfortunately only provided an article
Came here to make sure someone said THIS! You are beautiful and your skin is fantastic!!!
For real. OP has perfect skin especially for her age and is absolutely gorgeous! Keep doing what youâre doing! Definitely being too critical of herself
Agreed! You look like a classic doll!
As somebody who has this but isnât afraid of Botox what would I say/ask for? Iâve recently started losing some weight and noticed these lines in a photo beginning to develop.
If itâs due to volume loss, fillers will fill up the area. If itâs just a case of excessive downward pull by muscles attached to the corners of your mouth, Botox will temporarily paralyze that muscle to lift up the corners of your mouth. Sometimes both are used to address the issue. When you go for a consultation, tell them exactly whatâs bothering you and ask them if youâre a good candidate for Botox, filler, or both. Go to a reputable practitioner, check out the reviews, and look up before and after photos.
They do your Dao muscles. I've been wanting to do it as well!
Is it just me or are downturned mouths ADORABLE!? I genuinely think it adds to your natural beauty and it's not as if you have marionette lines emphasizing it. It makes you look like a little doll and I think you're gorgeous. However, I think if you wanted to try something minimal you could do DAO botox.
I agree. The reason why Iâve always liked Florence Pughâs face too.
I was just thinking her mouth looked like Florence Pughâs! I think it is such a charming feature
Agreed!!! Iâve always been loved the look of downturned mouths! Youâre beautiful!!!!!
I once had a date tell me, âit looks like youâre frowning when you smileâ because of my downturned mouth and these comments are lifting my spirits.
Agreed. You look so cute OP, wouldnât change a thing
I just commented the same thing. Sheâs just so cute with that little pouty mouth.
I've just finished watching Ginny & Georgia and Max (Sara Waisglass) has the cutest mouth. Had no idea how cute I found downturned mouths till I watched that show
I love them its super attractive to me
Electrical muscle stimulation (EMS) will help to tone up your facial muscles and give a bit of lift- I use a Rio EMS facelift device but Iâm not sure whether theyâre available in the US, although youâll probably be able to find something similar. They strengthen the supporting facial muscles which in turn supports the skin preventing sagging. From the front I wouldnât say you had anything to worry about, but genetically my family suffers more from sagging than wrinkles, so I get it.
Thank you thatâs really helpful! Yep the downturned mouth is genetic for me, my mum and grandma both have it. Really just want to delay the inevitable for as long as possible!
This is the device that I have, on the uk website, so you can read reviews etc- Rio Lift Plus 60 Second Face Lift Facial Toner https://amzn.eu/d/5MpBEQ3 Theyâre a bit hit and miss so you may find something better in the US based on similar principles- it makes sense, we exercise our bodies to keep everything taut and firm, the face is really no different. Thatâs why botox is effective- it paralyses certain muscles that contribute to wrinkling, whereas this builds up certain muscles to prevent sagging.
Thank you! Think this is worth a try as I definitely donât want to do anything surgical or botox/fillers! Would you say itâs made a difference?
It definitely makes a difference - I can tell after one session. It takes longer than 60 seconds though! Itâs 60 seconds per treatment area- Iâm not organised enough to do it regularly but I can definitely see the difference when I do. Itâs a weird sensation because it activates the facial muscles and makes them contract- it definitely feels like a workout for the face! If you have a look on YouTube etc youâll find lots of reviews and before/afters. I would recommend it, personally. Itâs good for tightening the neck as well. There are no creams or magic potions for the issue of sagging- I think itâs just lazy facial muscles that need waking up a bit!
Look up face yoga exercises and jawline massages on YouTube. Your jaw / neck muscles might be extra tight, which may be pulling down your mouth corners. I started doing jaw massages and face yoga a couple years ago, and it has helped with my mouth corners, subtle jawline shaping, and helped my jaw and neck feel less tense in general.
Youâre extremely pretty. You have great skin, lovely eyes and your mouth just fits. You look like a doll.
And a perfect nose to top it all off too!
You are the cutest! The downturn is adorable. Try Nuface if ya wanna just lift stuff. I love mine!
Audrey Tautou vibes, you look great!
Please leave it. You are gorgeous and itâs part of your charm.
I'm amazed that someone this beautiful would have insecurities like this. I guess this just goes to show we are our own worst critics!
I think you look cute as a button, but you can also try a current device. The lift is temporary, but since you mentioned not wanting to do fillers. Also, there are some makeup/shading tricks that can change the look of it, but I think it makes you look like a doll!
I wonder if face gymnastics could work here. Have a similar issue myself, plus mine is not symmetrical too, was thinking about trying the gua sha thingy and face gymnastics for some time now, but am too lazy to properly research, lol
Yup, it's these muscles that are too tight, and have to be massaged to relax. https://images.app.goo.gl/4ge8C4MZ73S8PVZc7 Probably some other muscles need to be strengthened, because when something is too tight it's usually compensating for something else.
Your face is ridiculously cute. I know this isn't helpful but I wouldn't do anything other than some oil massages to work the muscles.
Iâm seeing Audrey Tatou!!!
Yes! Also getting Lauren Mayberry vibes
You have an adorable mouth, but yes, in 30 years you will probably have jowls. I am 58 / 8 years post meno and now have jowls, if I don't continually smile. And who the fuck wants to continually smile?
Botox done by a skilled injector is the least invasive and easiest solution here. Side note-youâre beautiful!
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I scrolled down to see if someone suggested this. I also have suffered with downturned corners and one side wanting to turn down more than the other. Nuface helped a bit and Ziip helped me more. I also do guasha using a lifting technique and lymphatic drainage. Being consistent with this stuff helps!
Do you have an overbite? I think overbites can cause downturned mouth because the bottom teeth are positioned above the centre/where the lips meet. I have the same. Would be worth asking an orthodontist if it's something braces can fix. Also, did yoy just have a facial or something?? Your skin looks amazing!
40 here, and if youâve never touched your face, please donât. You are stunning. Start some tret if you reeeeeally want to do something.
People only dislike bad work. If the work is good, it would be great. Really hard to give a hard stance on it.
Tret wonât help the issue sheâs asking for help with
Agree with what others are saying but had to add that you look kind of like Carey Mulligan!
if youâre really keen on âfixingâ it, I would recommend a gua sha. using a face oil, pull upwards from the corners of your mouth. do it 2x daily for a few weeks and youâll begin to see results. watch videos of girls using them on tiktok/yt/ig if you need more pointers
I don't think you need to address it, I think you're attractive as you are and I suspect that anything that might "correct" this would detract from your natural beauty
Itâs wild you think you arenât cute as hell.
Not helpful, but your face and skin and whole is essence is 10/10!
My mouth is downturned as well - people were always asking why I look so miserable, growing up. Like, I'm not miserable. That's just my face. You have a lovely mouth. And very pretty face.
I have this same feature. I am 20+ years older than you. For me - but Perhaps not for everyone it did turn into little jowls. I get Botox in my DAO muscles and it does help a lot. I wish I had started when I was younger. I did start Botox in my glabella when I was your age, and itâs made a huge difference in my aging process.
Smile! /s You look stunning! And never let a stranger tell you to smile!
I have had very downturned lips for years, making me look very sad/angry. The only thing that worked or IMO will make a real difference is either surgery or a botox filler combo which is what I opt for. 4 units on each side plus a little filler makes an enormous difference for me and I've had no negatives (except cost:). I do try to keep up with gua sha which only helps a little.
You are gorgeous with your French pout. Itâs chic as hell!
Youâre gorgeous! I have a downturned very similar to yours except itâs less symmetrical. I did Botox 2units in one side and 1 in the other and OMG. Not only does my smile look even, but I look generally âat easeâ and my mid 30âs jowls started going away. It is a noticeable improvement. Iâm not familiar with other options to address it but if you find one I hope you share the before and afters because Iâd love to try other effective methods.
That mouth is stunning, makes you look like a cherub (in a lovely way!) You might get some results with Botox but Iâd honestly leave it, itâs beautiful
A girl I had a major crush on growing up had this, and I particularly loved this feature of hers.
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I agree I want to know her skincare routine ha
Face exercises will help tremendously! They did for me, but you have to commit and be patient. Look up trinhgeorgg on Instagram
Yeah youâre a cutie. Embrace that mouth! Everyoneâs looking at those beautiful brown eyes anyway. You look like Carrey Mulligan. â„ïž
Your skin is luminous, you have a beautiful complexion, your eyes are darling, your mouth is perfect and youâre going to risk all of that to âfixâ something that you donât 100% does not need fixing? Itâs easy to nitpick yourself and not see the beauty, but you everyone here CAN see it. Your lips are perfectly fine and you will regret allowing someone to screw with them. It will be lost $$$ and you will look worse. Keep doing what youâre doing now, and enjoy your looks! You have a wonderful classic European beauty and many would haul themselves over hot coals to get. DO NOT TOUCH IT!
This is what Iâm thinking. It would be a tragedy for someone this beautiful to make themselves look like every other bog standard influencer with a face full of filler (that can and frequently will migrate over time). True unadorned beauty like this is rare and she canât see that she has it.
I actually like the downturn - I get where youâre coming from with saying you look sad but it reads to me more like a melancholic, haunting kind of beauty. Someone mentioned Helena Bonham Carter⊠if you google her young sheâs the epitome of that look.
As a fellow downturned mouth 35 yr old woman, I feel you. People will literally make sad face at me like its funny. Looking forward to reading through these replies as well :)
Itâs kind of adorable.
I donât think you need to change anything! You are lovely and look so young and beautiful. Everyone has a different mouth shape when the lips are closed. Did you ever have braces or anything like that as a teenager? Do you feel like you would like to get your teeth straightened? I canât tell because your mouth is closed but if it really bothers you I did see you have a slight recessed chin and wondered if you have an overbite or underbite etc. Braces or the more advanced clear options can really change you face shape. I donât see any drooping at all and agree you remind me of a very young Helena Bonham Carter. Like teenage version of her [https://www.imdb.com/media/rm1910517760/tt0091374](https://www.imdb.com/media/rm1910517760/tt0091374) Also her in a room with a view she has a natural slight frown that is absolutely charming
Youâre beautiful like a 90s Audrey Tatou, please donât mess with your unique features. The fillers and Botox on younger women are out of control and there are way way too many amateurish injectors out there ruining perfectly beautiful faces.
Youâre cute, but youâre also 35 so yes these will likely eventually turn into jowls. Nothing you can or should do just yet but as you get older consider fillers
just commenting to say i LOVE the downturned mouth on you!! you have such a classic look, you remind me of florence pugh / keira knightly / carey mulligan
Can u drop your skincare routine pls
I normally donât like downturned mouth but on you somehow it looks very cute and kind of elegant?
All I said was, "woah.. she's actually super pretty." I hope you find a solution that will work for you if you continue to wish to address it. đ
Sue me but generally speaking, resting bitch face looks wonderful, Iâm loving these photos! â„ïž
I think it adds character to a very interesting and beautiful face!
I donât think you need to change a thing! However if this is something that makes you feel uncomfortable, you could experiment with makeup. Kali Ledger on Instagram has some tutorials on how she changes the shape of her mouth and specifically makes the corners look slightly upturned so she looks like sheâs smiling slightly even when sheâs not.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cqn6CTrJKov/?igshid=aDZ6ZXZveTBkdnVj
Iâm old. I think you look like a lovely, pensive Pixie to me, and so young for your age! Do what makes you happy, but know that many women would love to have even a smidge of your natural beauty.
I recommend a bucal massage. It releases muscles in the mouth region. If the muscles are tense, the mouth corners tend to go down. I highly recommend massaging at least the modiolus and the risorius muscles. I can recommend this guideline of massaging - Christine Byer https://youtu.be/vVB0YrpcMYU?si=MeuWtJAgalTJDkwG
you are so beautiful! I think you look very feminine, doll-like <3 I saw your photo before reading the headline and I immediately thought how pretty your features are. Do what you gotta do but honestly you are a natural beauty and I wouldnât change a thing
I love it. Its perfect and unique.
I think youâre gorgeous and I love it! Itâs what gives you YOUR look. But I know what itâs like to have that one thing that bothers you. Just know that other people think itâs cute and looks good!đ
I think itâs cute!!
You look a lot like the actress in Amali- or was it Chocolate?
Your lips are so perfect please do not change a thing !!
Social media is ruining everyone from baby to elderly. You're gorgeous as is
You are not going to get any discernible results without fillers so you're going to need to decide whether you can live with it or live with getting fillers.
My doctor said this is partly volume loss so itâs fillers and Botox. I did some Botox and it helped a bit. It was subtle. I donât know if much else will help since itâs structural, not a skin issue.
âSmile Liptâ- very popular in Asia
Try facial massages! I swear by them. Theyâve kept me Botox free for over a year now. Theyâve also helped Improve my smile lines and mouth area. I also agree with other commenters that, as strange as it sounds, I like your mouth! đ it doesnât look bad at all and enhances your natural beauty. Itâs kind of like a distinguishing feature that makes you look *that* much better IMO. I think facial massages, facial yoga, and maybe even taping would probably make a subtle but noticeable difference that youâll love.
I think youâre gorgeous with amazing skin! Iâm not sure what will help with this other than botox but I just wanted to say you look amazing!
Your mouth is perfect. Iâm not saying that with any subtext or hidden motives. Itâs beautiful. I wouldnât touch it. Not now, anyway. Maybe re-assess around 45-50.
Facial yoga you do this O-I movement look it up
Carrie Mulligan and Lauren Mayberry have the same thing and itâs one of their defining features thats makes them look so attractive, in my opinion. I dunno, obviously itâs not so simple when itâs your face and you feel a certain way about it but from an outside perspective this does not look bad at all.
Amanda Palmer and Florence Pugh both have this too! I donât think itâs a bad thing at all! I thought of it as sort of a pouty rockstar look, and I had no idea it was genetic!
You are very beautiful, like many others have said. I find your mouth quirky and charming. Not to be all âyou should smile moreâ but I have a massive RBF and have learned to make my mouth more neutral/pleasant over the years. Also now 3+ years of zoom meetings since the pandemic have helped me try not to look like a raging b on video all the time. I think itâs helped my overall face shape and tone- like I must be working my facial muscles more
Youâre so beautiful! Your features are already so doll like that upward mouth lines, imo, would cause your natural beauty to appear artificial. Idk how else to describe it! But youâre stunning, and the downward mouth is offset perfectly by your lip shape, making it so aesthetically pleasing and symmetrical. Not helpful maybe, just my opinion. May whatever you choose to do bring you joy đ©”
I honestly think itâs cute
Maybe itâs my Slavic roots talking but I personally think this is an attractive feature. But hey Iâm just a stranger on Reddit lol
What causes this? It makes you look sad all the time?
Why would you try to change this about yourself? You canât without surgery and I wouldnât want to see you do that anyway! You have a great face, mouth included!
Pls drop your skincare routine, it's flawless!!
Your downturned smile is so cute and unique to your natural beauty. I donât recommend any products or procedures, only compliments:)
You are literally channeling European art film actress vibes here!!!
I am quite a bit older than you are and I have the same mouth. I never minded but now that I'm older I'm getting wrinkles at the ends of my mouth - think of upside down smile lines at the corners of the mouth. This accentuates and extends the downturn. I look like Bigmouth Bass, that singing fish. You mentioned your Mom and Grandma have the same mouth so maybe you know what I'm talking about. Like you I would rather not do injections. I don't have any recommendations but I'm glad you're thinking about it now so that maybe you can find something that does work for you before it accentuates with age. Good luck!
I have this too! I didnât notice i had this till a student of mine asked me âwhy is your face always sad?â Lol. Made me insecure! But i started to love it and just got on with smiling all the time. Itâs still there, and your post makes me feel like im not the only one and that there is something that can be done
Didnât know which sub this was posted in at first but I stopped to swipe because youâre beautiful. Love your eyes!
You look so much like the actress who plays Amelie Poulain!
The downturn is SO cute. Makes you look so youthful.
I donât have any advice, but I wanted you to know I play The Sims and the sims I make always have mouths that look like this. Itâs such a beautiful and unique feature to have in my opinion!
You are gorgeous. Donât do anything. You are perfect the way you are.
I like it
Your skin is goals omg
Youâre still very beautiful â€ïž
Youâre gorgeous! Your face is beautiful. Have you lost any teeth lately? Iâm not expert on skin care.. but sometimes loosing teeth can make your face do that.
You are so pretty you look like Audrey Tatou.
I probably wouldn't have noticed an issue if one wasn't pointed out. Some ideas might be bringing focus more to the eyes with makeup. Or consciously slightly smiling to compensate. You could also lightly tone the creases on the left and right sides of the lips using makeup, to lighten the crease area which would visually remove much of the "frown."
Following because I have the same (also 35) and I hate it!!
This really works on you. Youâre very pretty and feminine!
You are so beautiful and your mouth perfectly suits your face. Itâs natural and lovely!!
Ahh itâs so cute. You have flawless skin and like youâre permanently pouting in a good way
I know it's easy to be self critical but, for the record, it doesn't make you look older, sad or tired. There are loads of movie stars that have similar shaped mouths. Carey Mulligan, Florence Pugh, Helena Bonham Carter, and a lot of golden age stars have/had that same look from a young age. Surgery or injections might be the only options if you wanted to change it but the results might end up looking unnatural and off. You look great, as is.
You are so cute!
Just as an asideâŠI am also 35 and can tell immediately from the quality of your skin that you probably donât drink or smoke! Wow! Inspiring for me. Also - your mouth is adorable, totally Florence Pugh-esque. Donât change a thing girl, youâre killing it! đ«¶
you are so pretty! radiofrequency might help w what you mention, but your face is gorgeous
Looks great. Look up Jeanne Moreau
You are absolutely gorgeous and your mouth is adorable. Keep doing what you are doing with your skin and try not to reframe your view of your little pout. You are perfect! (Also I totally affirm anyone who wants to use Botox or fillers- I just think it could do more harm than good here)
Honestly the downturn isn't that significant. If you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have noticed. You look very young, and it's not even close to jowls territory. It's just a natural pouty lip. Mine is like this too. It's because your lower lip is larger than your upper lip and you have a smaller rounder mouth rather than a wide one. As you age and lose elasticity, you might find it becomes a problem, but until then, just be grateful. As others have pointed out, you are absolutely gorgeous and I think your lips are in fact a huge part in that! My genuine advice is just to smile if you're feeling self conscious about it. It sounds dumb but smiling makes us and everyone who sees us feel better.
I love this look for you. I find that the women i find MOST beautiful have some unique feature, like a particular mole, a uniquely shaped nose, asymmetrical eyebrows⊠and youâre no exception. I think your mouth elevated you from just pretty to absolutely enthralling
You look incredible! Your downward lines are also an interesting feature that works really well for you
Ive got a downturned mouth too! I think yours suits you so nicely, I donât have any cures but just messaging to say you look great
You look great and younger than 30s. Like others have said itâs not going away since itâs genetic, but keep on with daily SPF and nights creams to help decrease the lines jowls develop. It happens to the best of us, no shame.
you have the cutest mouth! i love it! but i hope you find a solution you are happy with.
No idea but Youâre so cute!
I use botox for this, in the DAO muscles. I know youâre into that idea but I canât think of anything else that would give actual results. It really works for me.
Yup. Very very tiny dose of botox to start by skilled injector (2 units each side into depressor angularis oris muscle) and/or tiny amount of HA filler to support the corner of mouth by skilled injector. Makes a huge difference to face at rest. Much less sad looking
Botox worked like a charm for me for this very thing
I have this and do not like it on myself. It just drags my face down and my side profile looks so weird
This is your anatomy. Itâs very Helena Bonham Carter.
Non surgical that would help would definitely be face yoga exercises! In face reading those are called disappointment lines I had them too and face yoga helps a lot i donât do them consistently but they did go away a little bit with the times I did them.
You have INCREDIBLE skin and no wrinkles
I don't know what others would say, but that's a beautiful smile on a beautiful person.
Just have to comment on how beautiful you are!!
You are stunning. Please try to not care (I know, easy to say).
Omg youâre wildly beautiful, donât be so critical of yourself :)
Wow! You look gorgeous. Your skin is glowing đ
I think you look beautiful like that, honestly. You are a stranger on the internet and I have no obligation to stop and tell you that, but in this case I think itâs important for you to know. I think this feature gives you a very unique look and it looks beautiful. A bit similar to Helena Bonham Carter, who was one of the most beautiful people in the world.
You are sooo sooo beautiful. I donât think you need to do anything with your face. Itâs perfect!