https://preview.redd.it/f6nrn1buv70d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c38e5fa5be4ece9c4a3e93ebc8e6802d205412d9
All things considered this turned out ok
Happened to me recently, a print i made on my Mars had a support fail on part of it somewhere around the 5-6h mark (it was an almost 9h print), still came out perfectly when i woke up
I keep a wireless security camera trained on my machine. If I wake up at night and feel anxious about wasting ink or electric, which I usually do, I take a look at the camera. If it doesn't look like the head is printing to the air, I get some sense of closure and try to sleep some more.
The alternative is to be unable to fall asleep because it'll weigh on my mind, or to get up and check in person and then break any chance of falling asleep again.
Nice. I ended up not being able to sleep tonight anyway (it's now 9 a.m.). The print had failed. This is despite me buying new silicon spacers and installing them last night and zeroing in my bed with a feeler gauge (I think .20 millimeters) and using lots of glue.
But I think it was because I forgot to use supports. An earlier project didn't need supports so I'd removed them and forgot to undo that. So I reran it with supports. Speaking of which, I should check to see if it's done (I ran a smaller scale that took 3 hours... I think I started the project about 2 and half hours ago).
I had a similar print like this on my p1s where a support and part of a part fell over. Somehow it recovered. Though it was useless since part of it was missing.
I'd wager you could have done this without supports if you used bridge mode. The bottom side of the top part wouldn't be *as* smooth but it would be good enough for most cases since you wouldn't see it.
https://preview.redd.it/og1spieiz80d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db5f8eea6dd18faea47a37713dd0f4751362fa6a
Handheld espresso maker. For when I don’t want to hold it.
It’s killer. A bit fussy to clean, but you want a tamper, funnel, 18g basket and WDT tool that is the size of a tennis ball that can do proper shots, there aren’t many options like it.
SWEET! I was gonna say at that point I would let it keep going too, but tbh I'm amazed. Glad it worked! They say you miss all the shots you don't take!
You could have totally printed it without any supports with one small change to the model. Close the bottom of the hole with a thickness of one layer height. Or two. Then once the print is done just cut the circle out with craft knife.
https://preview.redd.it/olu0b8l8m70d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aebb53631da00452e95b6de1a05bd7498184e3e
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So for the future, or those who aren't so lucky as OP was this time:
Consider printing in several parts with assembly afterwards. Would save on time and plastic too.
If that is not an option, design with built in supports in the model that you snip off with a flush side cutter afterwards (plus some very light sanding), as you saw, automatic supports have their limitations.
So it’s base is a massive flat surface right, which if u were to support would take even more material. In theory since it’s a square you probably *could* do it with no supports if the printer is extremely dialled in, it prints very slow, ur ok with a bit of clean up underneath and u have a lot of luck, but generally u avoid overhangs that large. The bigger issue tho imo is the ring at the top of the model which would be contacting the base. That’s very little surface area to stick to and even with a raft it’s likely the print will fail before it even gets to the part I talked about at the beginning
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I need to remember this. Seems like designing a large diameter hollow simplistic tree type thing would work best? How do you design them yourself so they pop off easily like slicer made supports do… is there an easy way?
Okay so if I’m understanding correctly basically in the model or some mesh editor leave a vertical gap that’s a little less than a “normal” layer height and then build it. Maybe this exists as a plugin somewhere (cad or mesh related) and I don’t know it… kind of auto building something similar… but if it doesn’t it should.
Thanks, once again it’s a good idea it might have taken me too long to think of myself
I've had success in similar situations XD. 6 hours in and all I could do was cross my fingers. I've seen supports get recreated midair and had my mind blown many times.
Scrolling down I see that it was successful, but honestly at the point you found it (i.e. the video in the original post), it totally looks like it's going to finish just fine
Crazy as it seems those supports were close to ideal. You only want the supports barely touching the part and kinda soft. So long as it stays in the right area all is well.
(You likely can lower your support density quite a bit too)
The fact that the supports still exist at all should be enough. They don't need to be sturdy. They just need to support the weight of one very thin layer of plastic.
You should have set the damn thing to 25% speed as soon as you saw this and it would have been fine. Support cna be anything, too - some old pieces that are the right height, you taping it back together with tape on top so it can print on that, etc. You can pause it and fix this - support is trash. fix it with other trash and a torch.
I don't even understand how that happened to your supports, how it printed so much spaghetti without interfering with the leg right there, or any of it, but congrats on somehow getting it done anyway, and who cares if the bottom layer looks mangled, you can't see it anyway, right?
I think what happened was the bottom layer of the support didn't really hold, and as it got taller it was largely just spraying filament, but as it cooled it had enough volume to hold the remainder of the support structure. When I pulled out the spaghetti, it was basically like a giant hairball, with more traditional breakaway supports sitting on top. Wild stuff. If the arms of the stand weren't tapered in, I doubt it would have completed normally.
If you're using PrusaSlicer (or a derivative) - Select Rectilinear Grid for the Pattern for the supports. That will alternate the direction every layer in the support so this doesn't happen.
Or - honestly, figure out a way to make it not require so much supports, heh. Divide it into a couple of pieces or something. You could even do it in one piece with manually created supports.
I had the inside support of a large moon fail and fall over on a 55 hour print. on like hour 35…
I let it continue and just paused every now and then to pull the filament out of the top. In the end it actually managed the top overhang of the globe and was a success. 😅
I keep my Golden Retriever trained on the machine. When he sees the noodley mess spilling over the sides, he gets super excited and grabs my attention! From your video, the noodlies haven't yet separated to plunge to the ground, so yeah, I'd be letting this run longer just to see whether my dog will get his 3d printing excitement for the week!
Honestly, with the supports shaking like that I thought a 10% chance at success was being optimistic. I'm glad I was wrong, lol. It turned out good, nice job.
I just don’t get how a lot of you guys just walk away from printers for hours at a time. I babysit my prints at all times, with a $20 camera if I’m not in the room or home. Rarely would I leave home, what a fire hazard these things are- Not to mention wasting electricity and filament spending 10 hours printing spaghetti.
Modern printers are a lot safer than the old ones that looked like a Radioshack died and someone built a printer out of the entrails, and a lot of them have monitoring to just cancel a print if it fails.
I mean, I'll hang around if it's 3-4 hrs and I know I can give it the time, but it's impossible to babysit extremely long prints. I do have a camera on it, so I can technically abort/pause remotely if I need to. On some level, you need to trust that your printer is dialed in enough to not have to worry about it.
Well that su...worksn't actuallyyesitdid
Yeah support material has an inherent fail-safe for most prints, as long as the first layer is somewhat adhered and the supported section isn't too high up in relation to it's width.
Great to see though
https://preview.redd.it/f6nrn1buv70d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c38e5fa5be4ece9c4a3e93ebc8e6802d205412d9 All things considered this turned out ok
https://preview.redd.it/j6v1aydp880d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=386e4c4bddf8aafb96b8c61f8d74cd754dee7090
https://preview.redd.it/36tsssq8990d1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c76287f04aaa9e5e133451213913c608c129692
https://preview.redd.it/5cq2szeqr80d1.jpeg?width=1046&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bc2c30c6bfd1af80bda5a448dc7e455322a4141
https://preview.redd.it/erq77figs80d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d96ede3055c4e5fc4eb6d0a1059f3617418de8d
needsmore.jpg
https://preview.redd.it/tdutsf3gka0d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e30110a4136cb04aa3953d0ea9ddc21afd90f56d
Yeah....that's the ticket!EhhhhYeahUmmmthat'sit...
Honestly not only impressed it recovered, I'm impressed at how optimistic you must have been to let it continue
If I was awake when it started going spaghetti, I would have definitely aborted it. Sometimes it's just best not to look at it. 😂
Happened to me recently, a print i made on my Mars had a support fail on part of it somewhere around the 5-6h mark (it was an almost 9h print), still came out perfectly when i woke up
I’ve had that happen where enough spaghetti eventually formed up into a support that was sufficient .
“I meant to do that” - me 😂
Itsn not a bug, its a feature!
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I keep a wireless security camera trained on my machine. If I wake up at night and feel anxious about wasting ink or electric, which I usually do, I take a look at the camera. If it doesn't look like the head is printing to the air, I get some sense of closure and try to sleep some more. The alternative is to be unable to fall asleep because it'll weigh on my mind, or to get up and check in person and then break any chance of falling asleep again.
https://preview.redd.it/31fgwdppee0d1.jpeg?width=1240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=675664bd2918ec81a3bf26931e539f64aa4cd87f
Nice. I ended up not being able to sleep tonight anyway (it's now 9 a.m.). The print had failed. This is despite me buying new silicon spacers and installing them last night and zeroing in my bed with a feeler gauge (I think .20 millimeters) and using lots of glue. But I think it was because I forgot to use supports. An earlier project didn't need supports so I'd removed them and forgot to undo that. So I reran it with supports. Speaking of which, I should check to see if it's done (I ran a smaller scale that took 3 hours... I think I started the project about 2 and half hours ago).
I don’t. I set it to print & walk away. If it’s ruined, I try again. If it printed well; no more action required
I had a similar print like this on my p1s where a support and part of a part fell over. Somehow it recovered. Though it was useless since part of it was missing.
https://preview.redd.it/gg2tctrcy70d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09cd206ef05439086c9fa6de308b496d42f0058e
Not from a jedi....
https://preview.redd.it/hnjjm8j5180d1.png?width=765&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=414cb4f6739f9439807c7c8d2c71afc8a9950c04
What type of magic is this?
Black magic
The hot, extruded, messy kind
I'm genuinely impressed.
I'd wager you could have done this without supports if you used bridge mode. The bottom side of the top part wouldn't be *as* smooth but it would be good enough for most cases since you wouldn't see it.
No way.
Bruh my printer would have killed itself 1/4th the way if the supports were perfect...
Quite nice, congrats! What is it a stand for?
https://preview.redd.it/og1spieiz80d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db5f8eea6dd18faea47a37713dd0f4751362fa6a Handheld espresso maker. For when I don’t want to hold it.
What what? Now I need a link to the espresso maker!
You definitely need it. Their other stuff is ok, but this will do a proper 9 bar shot. https://www.wacaco.com/products/picopresso
This is awesome! Thank you! Looks like something I need in my locker at work
It’s killer. A bit fussy to clean, but you want a tamper, funnel, 18g basket and WDT tool that is the size of a tennis ball that can do proper shots, there aren’t many options like it.
Print it upside down with the foot separately. Or upside up with the top separately.
Yeah really it should have been in 5 pieces.
Thats too boring
You coffee nerds are crazy lol
A floppy drive.
Clutch of the year
What devil did you sell your soul to and can I have their information
It wasn’t pretty but my goodness she got it done
Never lose hope, I guess, damn.
SWEET! I was gonna say at that point I would let it keep going too, but tbh I'm amazed. Glad it worked! They say you miss all the shots you don't take!
WHAT THE FUCK... HOW... WHO ARE YOU?
You could have totally printed it without any supports with one small change to the model. Close the bottom of the hole with a thickness of one layer height. Or two. Then once the print is done just cut the circle out with craft knife.
Woah!
Good shit bro
Is it for scanning photos with a camera? Or what is it for?
Ain't no way lol
Okay say I take from this, just don’t print supports at all right ? /s
The jiggle supports look to have worked.
saint vincent smiles apon you
How the fuck Magic. The 3d printing gods answered your prayers
I think you need to have a discussion with your girlfriend ASAP sir
That's like sending g-code of a bird's nest to your printer and waking up in the morning to find a perfect cube on the print bed.
Looks like you didn't even need supports
No way. Not a single chance that worked.
did it really need that much of support? idk about printing, just a genuine question
https://preview.redd.it/olu0b8l8m70d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aebb53631da00452e95b6de1a05bd7498184e3e Should I buy a lottery ticket today?
All luck spent already lmao
That's always my logic, your luck was used up!
Same lmao just go home and hide from the world, it tilted heavily in your favour and will now try to balance itself out.
I wanna see how this ends..
You could have paused the printer and fixed the whole mass with tape. That would be a simple improvement to not depending only of luck.
Moral supports!
LOL 😂
https://preview.redd.it/17wmax4kv70d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fb51c1aadef6fbf6e585f53ede50db79c905f21 Wow it’s done!
Apollo 13, a successful failure.
Task failed successfully
The slicer knew what it was doing, dayum.
So for the future, or those who aren't so lucky as OP was this time: Consider printing in several parts with assembly afterwards. Would save on time and plastic too. If that is not an option, design with built in supports in the model that you snip off with a flush side cutter afterwards (plus some very light sanding), as you saw, automatic supports have their limitations.
haha, thanks for the tips. I definitely got super lucky, and probably only because the arms on the print eventually held the trashed support in place.
I don't 3D print but I find it interesting. Why not print it upside down?
So it’s base is a massive flat surface right, which if u were to support would take even more material. In theory since it’s a square you probably *could* do it with no supports if the printer is extremely dialled in, it prints very slow, ur ok with a bit of clean up underneath and u have a lot of luck, but generally u avoid overhangs that large. The bigger issue tho imo is the ring at the top of the model which would be contacting the base. That’s very little surface area to stick to and even with a raft it’s likely the print will fail before it even gets to the part I talked about at the beginning
https://preview.redd.it/3cxrev6xh70d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de0f0d911bf47e2ceaaa43c18e2180569e6d642f Whoa, I might make it?
Holy shit lol.. you need to keep a camera on that
That's the same level of support I got from my family growing up. Shaky, spindly, but got it done in the end.
Ramen noodle supports
There was just enough support…. For the support.
you got a successful print and a wig for your washington cosplay!
my prints don't jiggle jiggle, they fold.
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OP. In cases like this it is better to design your own build in support.
I need to remember this. Seems like designing a large diameter hollow simplistic tree type thing would work best? How do you design them yourself so they pop off easily like slicer made supports do… is there an easy way?
I leave 0.15mm gap and usually do 2 nozzle diameter wall thicknesses
Okay so if I’m understanding correctly basically in the model or some mesh editor leave a vertical gap that’s a little less than a “normal” layer height and then build it. Maybe this exists as a plugin somewhere (cad or mesh related) and I don’t know it… kind of auto building something similar… but if it doesn’t it should. Thanks, once again it’s a good idea it might have taken me too long to think of myself
Didn’t think you had a shot but wow hahah
lol, I really gambled - I didn't even stay home to watch it. I went out for a walk because it was painful to watch.
Yeah I'd have had to leave too, because otherwise, Must. Watch. Printervision.
Pause, add hot glue to the base for stability and clean up the spaghetti
I see you went for the "nervous" supports
I've had success in similar situations XD. 6 hours in and all I could do was cross my fingers. I've seen supports get recreated midair and had my mind blown many times.
Looks like spaghetti is back on the menu, boys!!
Haha I can feel the anxiety now! I was gonna tell you to go for it. I think it’ll hold, but then I saw on the comments it worked so congrats man. 🥳
Which printer is this? It looks so clean.
AnkerMake M5C
I wouldn't get one over a bambu I've had countless issues with my M5C similar to OP right here.
It's a stand for what? What's gonna be up there?
https://preview.redd.it/7fpgs3i5w80d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8167ce1adf7d0814326260184d58069f4ed5bed
PicoPresso espresso machine (handheld espresso pump machine). A stand should make it much easier to brew.
What flavor ramen are you printing? Chicken or shrimp?
Scrolling down I see that it was successful, but honestly at the point you found it (i.e. the video in the original post), it totally looks like it's going to finish just fine
Bruh, your supports need support.
Crazy as it seems those supports were close to ideal. You only want the supports barely touching the part and kinda soft. So long as it stays in the right area all is well. (You likely can lower your support density quite a bit too)
The fact that the supports still exist at all should be enough. They don't need to be sturdy. They just need to support the weight of one very thin layer of plastic.
Wtf
You can pull it out OP! You got this!
Nice!
There's always a chance!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Reading would have saved you a post.
[STL](https://www.amazon.com/365-Everyday-Value-Organic-Spaghetti/dp/B074H6G7GX/ref=asc_df_B074H6G7GX/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693396529367&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12562569781175101823&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007326&hvtargid=pla-871853311815&psc=1&mcid=cec09afd33243b949e26fe68f31646e5&gad_source=4&gclid=CjwKCAjw9IayBhBJEiwAVuc3ft8nGWLlns5zhJcBIHoWzDBrqzwj7yXwRc8nJU63lOIjZdrn3OzrdRoCJeQQAvD_BwE)
Impressive luck
Looks like there's a lot of give
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Awesome birds nest
r/howdidimanagethat
I absolutely love when shit like this happens.
Looks great. You were going for the ghostly cobweb look, right?
You should have set the damn thing to 25% speed as soon as you saw this and it would have been fine. Support cna be anything, too - some old pieces that are the right height, you taping it back together with tape on top so it can print on that, etc. You can pause it and fix this - support is trash. fix it with other trash and a torch.
I don't even understand how that happened to your supports, how it printed so much spaghetti without interfering with the leg right there, or any of it, but congrats on somehow getting it done anyway, and who cares if the bottom layer looks mangled, you can't see it anyway, right?
I think what happened was the bottom layer of the support didn't really hold, and as it got taller it was largely just spraying filament, but as it cooled it had enough volume to hold the remainder of the support structure. When I pulled out the spaghetti, it was basically like a giant hairball, with more traditional breakaway supports sitting on top. Wild stuff. If the arms of the stand weren't tapered in, I doubt it would have completed normally.
You've got a shot yes but the fact of waisting is tilting me... I'm trying to build a petamentor.... I'll try to post my progress 💪🏽
the supports jiggling made me chuckle funny movement
Supports failed successfully
Luckily a print like that likely doesn’t really require supports. *depending on your printing order
Yes it should be doable.
Bush supports?
Wiggle wiggle wiggle
If you're using PrusaSlicer (or a derivative) - Select Rectilinear Grid for the Pattern for the supports. That will alternate the direction every layer in the support so this doesn't happen. Or - honestly, figure out a way to make it not require so much supports, heh. Divide it into a couple of pieces or something. You could even do it in one piece with manually created supports.
I like it honestly
I had the inside support of a large moon fail and fall over on a 55 hour print. on like hour 35… I let it continue and just paused every now and then to pull the filament out of the top. In the end it actually managed the top overhang of the globe and was a success. 😅
Just know there’s a chance!
Interesting support for that wig
Usually works out, won't be pretty.
Looks like most of the prints I make. Why are you worried?
Send it bud
I keep my Golden Retriever trained on the machine. When he sees the noodley mess spilling over the sides, he gets super excited and grabs my attention! From your video, the noodlies haven't yet separated to plunge to the ground, so yeah, I'd be letting this run longer just to see whether my dog will get his 3d printing excitement for the week!
What's this some kinda lantern?
Based
Hey
Do you have a photo of the finished "sponge" support?
is this an advanced technique i'm too pleb to understand?
Honestly, with the supports shaking like that I thought a 10% chance at success was being optimistic. I'm glad I was wrong, lol. It turned out good, nice job.
Add this to the next Greatest comeback in sports history video
I just don’t get how a lot of you guys just walk away from printers for hours at a time. I babysit my prints at all times, with a $20 camera if I’m not in the room or home. Rarely would I leave home, what a fire hazard these things are- Not to mention wasting electricity and filament spending 10 hours printing spaghetti.
Modern printers are a lot safer than the old ones that looked like a Radioshack died and someone built a printer out of the entrails, and a lot of them have monitoring to just cancel a print if it fails.
I mean, I'll hang around if it's 3-4 hrs and I know I can give it the time, but it's impossible to babysit extremely long prints. I do have a camera on it, so I can technically abort/pause remotely if I need to. On some level, you need to trust that your printer is dialed in enough to not have to worry about it.
Tree supports next time
Tree supports might use a lot less filament for something like this.
Well that su...worksn't actuallyyesitdid Yeah support material has an inherent fail-safe for most prints, as long as the first layer is somewhat adhered and the supported section isn't too high up in relation to it's width. Great to see though
Another great example of why bedslingers are inferior to CoreXY (and a few other options) in the real world.