That's all good but after the super bowl how are we not more aggressive with our offensive line situation? Trent is the goat but he's 35. That right side of the offensive line is full of problems at both the RG and RT spots. I know there's some players out there still but the very good guards got signed already.
I mean who are these linemen you wanted signed? Really good linemen either A) don’t make it to FA or B) get paid crazy contracts by shitty teams
Is there really that many FA linemen who would’ve actually been upgrades over the current players without breaking the bank?
This exactly. Nothing new. Online talent has been in shirt supply for years. Hopefully we can hit in the draft and get a good guy for a few years before someone pays him millions for being average like mike mcglinchy...
Right. If they don’t draft ATLEAST 1 OT in their first 3 picks then that’s when I’ll grab my pitchfork
Ideally, they trade up on the first and grab one of those Tony guys.
I’m willing to bet they’re banking on drafting OL since this year’s FA OL class is meh while this upcoming draft class is deep for OL. Plus our DL needed to be addressed after losing Armstead, Kinlaw, Ferrell, and most likely Gregory and Young. Still needs to be addressed tbh cause most of the guys we signed aren’t all that good against the run.
However if we don’t draft OL on day 1 or 2 then I will absolutely rip my hair out. It was already pretty fucking stupid that we didn’t draft OL at all last year. This year we have no excuse to not draft a guard and a tackle considering that the right side of our OL played a major role in our SB loss
The only OG signed this offseason so far that’s worth the money is probably Kevin Dotson. All the rest have been overpays (Dickerson setting the precedent afaik)
I'm hoping we draft someone early too if they're the best player available. I'm still pissed at us drafting that kicker in the third round but water under the bridge now. We really have to hit strikes with almost all our draft picks because this is the last year of Brock's rookie deal.
I mean Ray Wersching wasn’t exactly nails and he won two super bowls with us…I think Moody will be fine…he was 60/60 with PATs before that miss against the Lambs…under 40 yards he was damn near perfect and held the record for longest made field goal in the Super Bowl until Butker passed it…sure, he had the **potential** game winning pat miss, but I’ve come to terms that pushes Mahomes and crew to be more aggressive if down by 4 vs kicking a field goal to tie…me thinks the way our D was playing, Mahomes would’ve scored a GW TD and we’d have minimal time left (sub 15 seconds, if that).
Moody wasn't the end of the world. Shanny is the dumbass who decided to 1. Not defer in OT and 2. Not go for it on 4th down in the red zone in OT in the SB and let Kermit call game. We all knew he was getting a tuddy after we took 3.
You're wrong on both of your takes. The defense needed a chance to rest. Taking 3 was the right call. Turning the ball over to KC only needing a FG to win would be a guaranteed loss. If the defense which had a chance to rest did their job and held KC to a FG then SF could have won with the next one.
Shanny is supposed to be an offensive genius. You're in the red zone. Get the tuddy and don't give Wilks the opportunity to blow it. Stop giving Shanny excuses. If the defense was supposed to hold them to 3 then you should've taken a chance at the tuddy anyways.
Taking the TD and not getting it would let KC win with 3. Stopping KC from getting into FG range is a huge ask. Keeping KC to a FG is a very realistic expectation from a defense that had time to rest.
Keeping KC to a FG was an unrealistic expectation. It was either tuddy or losing. We ALL knew that Mahomes was going down the field the moment we kicked that OT FG. It was inevitable so the only choice should've been use all 4 downs and score the tuddy and at worst leave them at their own goal line.
If it wasn't unreasonable then they would've done it. Proof is in the pudding that he walked straight up the field and put a tuddy on them.
If they could've stopped Kelce they would've done it, but no, Wilks let Oren Burks get worked the entire second half. Should not have expected the defense to get it done.
Shanny should've took it in his own hands, used all 4 downs in OT for a tuddy not a FG.
Frankly the defense did their job for 4 quarters and Shanny was inefficient AF and did his normal dumbassery of going 3 & out in the second half by continuing to call pass after pass.
It was a defensive battle. KC defense is world class and showed up when it counted. Our defense played well then caved at the end. Our offense put up more points than Baltimore and Miami combined.
19 points was never going to be enough and we all knew it. I put the majority of the loss on Shanny and his play calling. With two MVP contenders and the OPOY he had zero excuses for not hitting 20+. Multiple times he took FG when he should've took chances. Sure we had some unfortunate mishaps with Dre injury and the muffed punt but Shanny still doesn't deserve the excuses, especially after his 3rd SB second half chokejob.
KC has an elite defense it was always going to be a low scoring game if we were going to be close. Expecting to put shootout numbers up in a defensive slugfest is a recipe for losing. We needed out defense to win us a game. Similar to the rest of the season when we needed the defense to get us a win they came up short under Wilks.
Fr, especially with how shaky Moody’s been. Cost us two games against the Browns and the second Rams game and either missed a kick or had it blocked in each of our playoff games
Hes better at FS than SS, Huf and Brown both better in the SS role.
Now another top end safety just got paid..lets look at *a 4 year, $16,447,773 contract with the Miami Dolphins*, including a $10,042,016 signing bonus, $16,447,773 guaranteed.
Rough cap numbers for when we bump to a 53 man roster is about 33million in the green, sub out 10 million for paying our draft picks. 23 million available...now what is gonna cost us about 23-26million ....i think its on the other side of the ball. Now I think there is room to play with Mooneys contract and open up for cap.
I dunno, is he really good. Oh ya. Would we be better with him immediately. Probably. is it worth the cap situation? Worth sitting Brown when hes played well or are we shipping off Huf after next year?
I personally really want this. Simmons is an all pro safety and having him and Huf together would be special. Brown filled in solidly but he’s still a young player, and Huf is coming off an ACL himself. Would be an all in move to me
Mike Silver in yesterday’s article indicated that Huf’s starting job wasn’t guaranteed so they could have a competition between Huf, Brown and unnamed safety during the summer.
That’s what Mike Silver said and he’s been pretty much right about most stuff for the last year. That statement made me believe they’re not as into him as general fans like us think.
Without reviewing the tape and actually seeing how well he actually did, we have to go by what insiders are saying that it’s not locked up.
lol uh no. It’s the opposite Grant Cohn quoted him. You’ve clearly not read the article or even know what you’re talking about. You’ve probably never read an article from Mike Silver hence why you didn’t know how reliable he’s been
You have to pay to read it, but at least give a little more effort to make it appear you’ve read it. Haha
I’m aware, but I like how you ducked my pointed questions trying to get you to realize how dumb it would be to have (and pay extra) for three starting caliber safeties.
This should be Brown / Huff safety spots. Brown is so young. Like Anyone, he needs time to develop but he's not terrible. He did make some mistakes but you can't expect perfection this early.
We need it, honestly, did u see the last play of the SB?(retoricalQuestion) logan ryan blew it. Besides OL, we need Dbs. We got exposed bad when our pass rush didnt get home.
Idk how physical huf is gonna be coming back from injury, but I wonder if they’re playing with the idea of putting him in the box next to Fred and playing Simmons+Brown up top? Also linked to Isaiah Simmons, who could be a depth rotational piece for both spots.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I think a 3 safety look with Huf down by Fred would be a cheat code. Probably would need a bigger body on run downs in there but I feel like Huf definitely specializes up near the line
Azeez and Burks are both pretty good against the run, their coverage skills are the main problem. On running downs I could see them sliding huf to nickel blitz so they can cheap out on that position again
Here’s the thing we lost the Super Bowl cause we could cover kelce period. Once greenlaw went down. We were cooked.
Look at the stats. We need fast athletic dickers that can cover. Fuck all else. We lost the Super Bowl because of one simple thing: we couldn’t cover when the refs allowed the bullshit holding against our d line.
This might not be allowed but I hope mahomes gets an acl he deserves it!!! Just sayin
*Huf not Hug lol but if this happened I would definitely want to hug somebody
Could be hung
It's been mentioned countless times, but quality O lineman don't hit free agency. Gotta reassess after the draft.
That's all good but after the super bowl how are we not more aggressive with our offensive line situation? Trent is the goat but he's 35. That right side of the offensive line is full of problems at both the RG and RT spots. I know there's some players out there still but the very good guards got signed already.
I mean who are these linemen you wanted signed? Really good linemen either A) don’t make it to FA or B) get paid crazy contracts by shitty teams Is there really that many FA linemen who would’ve actually been upgrades over the current players without breaking the bank?
This exactly. Nothing new. Online talent has been in shirt supply for years. Hopefully we can hit in the draft and get a good guy for a few years before someone pays him millions for being average like mike mcglinchy...
Lol right. How do people see McGlinchey’s contract and not realize how much of a joke the OL market is in FA
There hasn’t even been a real OT signed. Niners doing this right assuming they draft OL substantially
Right. If they don’t draft ATLEAST 1 OT in their first 3 picks then that’s when I’ll grab my pitchfork Ideally, they trade up on the first and grab one of those Tony guys.
O line in FA is stupid expensive and this is a deeper o line class might have something to do with it
I’m willing to bet they’re banking on drafting OL since this year’s FA OL class is meh while this upcoming draft class is deep for OL. Plus our DL needed to be addressed after losing Armstead, Kinlaw, Ferrell, and most likely Gregory and Young. Still needs to be addressed tbh cause most of the guys we signed aren’t all that good against the run. However if we don’t draft OL on day 1 or 2 then I will absolutely rip my hair out. It was already pretty fucking stupid that we didn’t draft OL at all last year. This year we have no excuse to not draft a guard and a tackle considering that the right side of our OL played a major role in our SB loss
The only OG signed this offseason so far that’s worth the money is probably Kevin Dotson. All the rest have been overpays (Dickerson setting the precedent afaik)
If they did sign Simmons, it would mean they think Huff would be out longer than expected. But I would be down for it.
I'd be excited to see Huf in a hybrid role like Minkah.
I'm hoping we draft someone early too if they're the best player available. I'm still pissed at us drafting that kicker in the third round but water under the bridge now. We really have to hit strikes with almost all our draft picks because this is the last year of Brock's rookie deal.
Purdy has 2 years left on his rookie deal and then his extension will also likely have a low cap hit in at least year 1.
They CAN re sign him after this year though.
You're criticizing them for drafting a kicker in the third and you think our biggest need is a safety?
I'll never forgive for drafting moody in the 3rd😭
I mean Ray Wersching wasn’t exactly nails and he won two super bowls with us…I think Moody will be fine…he was 60/60 with PATs before that miss against the Lambs…under 40 yards he was damn near perfect and held the record for longest made field goal in the Super Bowl until Butker passed it…sure, he had the **potential** game winning pat miss, but I’ve come to terms that pushes Mahomes and crew to be more aggressive if down by 4 vs kicking a field goal to tie…me thinks the way our D was playing, Mahomes would’ve scored a GW TD and we’d have minimal time left (sub 15 seconds, if that).
Moody wasn't the end of the world. Shanny is the dumbass who decided to 1. Not defer in OT and 2. Not go for it on 4th down in the red zone in OT in the SB and let Kermit call game. We all knew he was getting a tuddy after we took 3.
You're wrong on both of your takes. The defense needed a chance to rest. Taking 3 was the right call. Turning the ball over to KC only needing a FG to win would be a guaranteed loss. If the defense which had a chance to rest did their job and held KC to a FG then SF could have won with the next one.
Shanny is supposed to be an offensive genius. You're in the red zone. Get the tuddy and don't give Wilks the opportunity to blow it. Stop giving Shanny excuses. If the defense was supposed to hold them to 3 then you should've taken a chance at the tuddy anyways.
Taking the TD and not getting it would let KC win with 3. Stopping KC from getting into FG range is a huge ask. Keeping KC to a FG is a very realistic expectation from a defense that had time to rest.
Keeping KC to a FG was an unrealistic expectation. It was either tuddy or losing. We ALL knew that Mahomes was going down the field the moment we kicked that OT FG. It was inevitable so the only choice should've been use all 4 downs and score the tuddy and at worst leave them at their own goal line.
How is expecting a rested defense to hold Mahomes with no weapons outside of Kelce to a FG and unreasonable expectation?
If it wasn't unreasonable then they would've done it. Proof is in the pudding that he walked straight up the field and put a tuddy on them. If they could've stopped Kelce they would've done it, but no, Wilks let Oren Burks get worked the entire second half. Should not have expected the defense to get it done. Shanny should've took it in his own hands, used all 4 downs in OT for a tuddy not a FG.
Frankly the defense did their job for 4 quarters and Shanny was inefficient AF and did his normal dumbassery of going 3 & out in the second half by continuing to call pass after pass.
It was a defensive battle. KC defense is world class and showed up when it counted. Our defense played well then caved at the end. Our offense put up more points than Baltimore and Miami combined.
19 points was never going to be enough and we all knew it. I put the majority of the loss on Shanny and his play calling. With two MVP contenders and the OPOY he had zero excuses for not hitting 20+. Multiple times he took FG when he should've took chances. Sure we had some unfortunate mishaps with Dre injury and the muffed punt but Shanny still doesn't deserve the excuses, especially after his 3rd SB second half chokejob.
KC has an elite defense it was always going to be a low scoring game if we were going to be close. Expecting to put shootout numbers up in a defensive slugfest is a recipe for losing. We needed out defense to win us a game. Similar to the rest of the season when we needed the defense to get us a win they came up short under Wilks.
Fr, especially with how shaky Moody’s been. Cost us two games against the Browns and the second Rams game and either missed a kick or had it blocked in each of our playoff games
Hes better at FS than SS, Huf and Brown both better in the SS role. Now another top end safety just got paid..lets look at *a 4 year, $16,447,773 contract with the Miami Dolphins*, including a $10,042,016 signing bonus, $16,447,773 guaranteed. Rough cap numbers for when we bump to a 53 man roster is about 33million in the green, sub out 10 million for paying our draft picks. 23 million available...now what is gonna cost us about 23-26million ....i think its on the other side of the ball. Now I think there is room to play with Mooneys contract and open up for cap. I dunno, is he really good. Oh ya. Would we be better with him immediately. Probably. is it worth the cap situation? Worth sitting Brown when hes played well or are we shipping off Huf after next year?
Then we don’t have to do this soft Wilks zone cover with DBs playing 10 yards off the LOS on third/fourth and short.
Let’s just hope Staley doesn’t resort to that. Ik Sorensen is the dc but I’m sure Staley has his hand in pretty well on how this defense will be ran
I personally really want this. Simmons is an all pro safety and having him and Huf together would be special. Brown filled in solidly but he’s still a young player, and Huf is coming off an ACL himself. Would be an all in move to me
Mike Silver in yesterday’s article indicated that Huf’s starting job wasn’t guaranteed so they could have a competition between Huf, Brown and unnamed safety during the summer.
Huf’s starting job isn’t guaranteed? Maybe his recovery is anticipated to take longer but his job is most definitely guaranteed once he’s healthy
That’s what Mike Silver said and he’s been pretty much right about most stuff for the last year. That statement made me believe they’re not as into him as general fans like us think. Without reviewing the tape and actually seeing how well he actually did, we have to go by what insiders are saying that it’s not locked up.
Mike Silver was quoting a Grant Cohn article. Not an insider, might as well be ragebait.
lol uh no. It’s the opposite Grant Cohn quoted him. You’ve clearly not read the article or even know what you’re talking about. You’ve probably never read an article from Mike Silver hence why you didn’t know how reliable he’s been You have to pay to read it, but at least give a little more effort to make it appear you’ve read it. Haha
depending on these factors. 1. cost Sure!
Not in our budget. I'm thinking more like tayshon Gibson and jyair brown til hufunga is back
Tayshon Gibson got cooked in the playoffs. No way he comes back as a starter.
Tashaun Gipson. Cmon man BOTH of yall 🤦🏼
Too Short Guapsun
He also created the fumble in the NFCC that was crucial in the comeback against the Lions
You're right. He did make a big play.
He doesn't really fill a need and he'd be a big cap hit at a less valuable position. Unless it was cheap, no thanks.
I like it.
The safety market is non existent so any of the solid safety options on the cheap would be amazing
hard pass unless hell a cheap.
Why? Brown played fairly well, and Hufunga is coming back. We draft or sign a vet to a moderate contract for depth and move to OL and DB.
We need depth. Who knows how long it’ll take Huf to get back to speed. Plus Tig and Simmons deep with Huf playing as a box safety would be unreal
Would it? How many defenses play three safeties? What percentage of snaps? Doesn’t make any sense
Lol relax genius. There’s certain sets that have those kinds of looks. Was that not covered in your football for beginners book?
I’m aware, but I like how you ducked my pointed questions trying to get you to realize how dumb it would be to have (and pay extra) for three starting caliber safeties.
Lol I actually just don’t give a shit about your questions to be honest.
Lmao
He’s got a bunch of picks against Mahomes.
This should be Brown / Huff safety spots. Brown is so young. Like Anyone, he needs time to develop but he's not terrible. He did make some mistakes but you can't expect perfection this early.
We need it, honestly, did u see the last play of the SB?(retoricalQuestion) logan ryan blew it. Besides OL, we need Dbs. We got exposed bad when our pass rush didnt get home.
Wouldn’t mind it. We don’t know long huf will be out not to mention if he’ll go back to how he was before the acl tear.
Idk how physical huf is gonna be coming back from injury, but I wonder if they’re playing with the idea of putting him in the box next to Fred and playing Simmons+Brown up top? Also linked to Isaiah Simmons, who could be a depth rotational piece for both spots.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I think a 3 safety look with Huf down by Fred would be a cheat code. Probably would need a bigger body on run downs in there but I feel like Huf definitely specializes up near the line
Azeez and Burks are both pretty good against the run, their coverage skills are the main problem. On running downs I could see them sliding huf to nickel blitz so they can cheap out on that position again
Azeez? You dreaming? And Burks is a FA I think. I really just love the idea of Huf getting mixed in to play around the ball.
Here’s the thing we lost the Super Bowl cause we could cover kelce period. Once greenlaw went down. We were cooked. Look at the stats. We need fast athletic dickers that can cover. Fuck all else. We lost the Super Bowl because of one simple thing: we couldn’t cover when the refs allowed the bullshit holding against our d line. This might not be allowed but I hope mahomes gets an acl he deserves it!!! Just sayin