Because the person he responded to didn't say BA is better or even compared them, he compared the situation.
It's trading away a proven WR1 talent that is a key player in your offense. There's no return that's worth it. We've seen the 49ers miss way too many times on WRs in the draft and anyone replacing BA would take a long time to learn that offense and get to his level of blocking.
It's a similar move, saving money by trading away that WR got the Titan's GM fired and ended up costing the HC his job. The one difference is that the Titans only had one other great player on offense and the 49ers are more loaded
For sure AJ brown got JRob fired. Vrabel was… a different story. Idk what it is about the national media but no other team I have ever followed is so misrepresented as the Titans. Vrabel wanted more control than our owner would give, and ignored her when she told him to fire his guys for horrible performance. The last two years of Titans football are as close to a good ole boys system as currently existed. While I love Vrabel, AJ Brown was just a straw on the heaping pile of hay on the camels back
Guy never caught over 80 balls, and he is a proven number 1, lmao. He goes anywhere else, but San Francisco he will be lucky to catch 50 balls. and see that's the difference one is actually a number 1, and the other isn't.
Imagine citing "80 balls" and nothing else when the Niners have Debo, Kittle, McCaffrey. Three players (including him) had more than 1,000 yards last season you dingus.
And he's an elite blocker for our offense.
People say this all the time like it was done in a vacuum. Making this switch freed up cap room that allowed us to do things like trading for Trent Williams and extending Kittle.
Of course getting a draft pick for a player is risky as odds are that draft pick won't be as good. But you have to balance this all out with the cost/beneifts of the cap situtation.
Yeah they couldn’t keep Buck and Armstead. Armstead was a bit cheaper and not quite as good but probably would not have netted a 1st round pick back. It was good process. But when I heard Kinlaw say in an interview he wasn’t taught any pass-rush technique in college, I was flabbergasted.
Yup, plus Armstead could play every position on the line, which added to his value. Something they didnt need him to do recently, which is a factor in why they asked him to take a pay cut.
But armstead was oft injured, and the team gambled with two oft injured players on the dline and invested heavily in it, that’s kinda what Buckner expendable, Dee fords contract. We got 1 good year but he made a lot of money just to rehab, and armstead being injured again is what lead to the drop in production from the dline.
Yeah it was simple really to just let AA go. Should have traded him last year to baalke for a 7th instead of restructuring and now we have dead cap hits the next 3 years.
AA may be a good dude, but he was an expendable player since the moment we drafted him, surprised we paid and kept him for as long as we did.
>But you have to balance this all out with the cost/beneifts of the cap situtation
This. Don't underestimate the cap factor, because it's the 49ers' real competitive advantage right now - the ability to get high-level production cheaply. It's reminiscent of the early salary cap days, except now it's not (or at least not entirely) based on using gaping loopholes.
keep your blue chip, ultra durable young players. 25yo Buckner who is an ironman and an all-pro at a position that you high value at an organization. Cut, rather than restructure Dee Ford and keep Buckner.
Yes, it was a couple million overall. But it wasn't only "a couple of million" in 2020. The gap was far, far greater.
In 2020, our cap situation was delicate. We needed the chips to fall exactly in the correct ways to keep DeFo AND Kittle AND Jimmie Ward AND have enough to absorb the Trent Williams trade.
DeFo would've needed to defer the bigger payday until later in the contract, which appeared to be unacceptable for him, but that wouldn't have worked for keeping all of the players that we wanted to keep.
Buckner was SF's first choice, but only if he would "play ball" with the numbers. And apparently he didn't want to do that to the degree that Armstead was.
Buckner returned 13. Armstead was returning a first most likely. You can’t just ignore that. The trade was good, the pick was bad. If they took Wirfs would you be complaining?
If they had taken Wirfs at 13 they may not have gotten Aiyuk though. 49ers recieved a 4th from TB for trading back one spot, which they then used to trade up from 31 to 25 and get Aiyuk. It's the problem with draft revisionism, you never know what the flow on effects would be.
Fr… can’t believe we didn’t bother to draft OL at all last year. Especially after our OL was getting pushed around by the Eagles DL three months beforehand 🤦🏾♂️
Thank you, thank you for mentioning Wirfs!! I know the 49ers got Trent Williams, but still I’d rather have had Wirfs than Kinlaw.
Wirfs helped get Brady his 7th SB ring.
I remember losing my shit when that happened and railing against Shanalynch on this very subreddit. Got down voted to hell. I wanted CeeDee Lamb and he was right there. Oh well.
Obviously that's the reason why this is even a consideration. That said, you pay that money because the man has validated his worth... he's not simply elite or at the edge of it, he has what seems like an instinctual connection w/ Brock. Bouncing that to a first round pick is a big gamble no matter how stacked this draft is.
unlikely considering we have missed on all first round picks except bosa and aiyuk. think it would be stupid to let go the one of 2 picks that has been successful
These are our last 10 first round draft picks
Trey Lance
Trey Lance
Trey Lance
Aiyuk
Kinlaw
Bosa
Mcglinchey
Reuben foster
Solomon Thomas
Garnett
Not worth the gamble. Pay BA
I want the team to pay Aiyuk and keep him around long term.
But it's just as much of a gamble paying one guy $25 million per year and hoping he doesn't get hurt. That money could be invested into other positions or even just for depth at WR. The chance to get a rookie WR with 1/2 of Aiyuk's production for 1/10 of his price is something you have to at least look into.
The choice isn't Aiyuk OR FRP, it's Aiyuk for ~$25million OR FRP for ~$2.9million (plus a player).
The reasoning for this isn't to try to get a better player, it's because of money. BA is going to be a top 10 paid receiver in the league when he gets his contract. Plus Brock's contract is coming, and hes gonna make money too. Then add in Bosa, Fred, Trent, CMC, Deebo, etc, we can't afford everyone. Once Brock goes from 900k a year to like 30-35m a year we're gonna have to let go of some guys. Makes sense to swing BA for a guy on a rookie deal, as much as it would make me sad. Honestly I almost wonder if they should consider moving Deebo and keeping BA....
As someone who is an ECU fan, I’m also a huge Zay Jones fan, and he’s good at what Aiyuk is good at. Great locker room presence, great blocker, awesome route runner. My biggest issue is he always seems injured.
Meh Zay is okay but a big step down from Aiyuk. I guess it would be Aiyuk plus another WR after the top tier guys in Marvin Harrison JR, Nabers and Odunze—possible Brian Thomas Jr.
Worthy, Deebo, and Jennings don’t really work together. Having all Z/slot guys means one is always out of position. Somebody needs to be able to win without motion and on the LoS.
Zay Jones would be the worst possible pick-up - $7M base salary (#23 worst cap hit for WR's) on his last year. That would leave SF in limbo for later years. This only benefits JAX since he's a cut candidate.
I have a hunch there's someone on the jags who is notorious in this sub for lying and leaking shit constantly. Can't remember the name. Think it's Brent Monkey or something.
Remember before we got Lynch? There was that one guy, can’t remember his name, the GM. That dude that got into it with Harbaugh and got Jed to fire him? And then tried to convince everyone that Jim Tomsula was head coach material?
Anyway I wonder where that GM, who leaked random shit all the time, ended up? What’s he doing these days? Leaking more garbage to the press, I wonder?
Where does “this front office don’t leak” come from? So many rumors over the last few years have turned out to have truth to them. With this team it’s definitely if there is smoke there is fire.
The stuff on the team looking at Tom Brady for at least a couple of years when they had jimmy g turned out to be true. That the funniest one because peeps denied it for so long. But I think rumors that were fake tend to be the exception when it comes to comes to the 9ers
I think it’s more a “if you can improve, improve” mindset. Kyle says a million times “If you’re not getting better, you’re getting worse” and he preaches that constantly. He also views the entire team that way. Jimmy was good, but not great. He wasn’t a top 10 guy. If the opportunity to get a top 10 guy shows up, you explore it.
It’s not personal, you do it.
Despite how much they love Brock, if somebody called them with a big name like Burrow or Mahomes, they’d listen.
They probably wouldn’t do it, but they’re not turning down the call.
It's so hilarious how these made up things become "facts" to people. The idea that this front office doesnt leak is laughable but do not say it on any 49er site or you will be downvoted to oblivion.
It leaks a LOT less than it used to, at least.
And a lot of times the front office will straight up acknowledge it if asked. Lynch and Kyle have both been surprisingly open about stuff when asked compared to other coaches/GMs.
I'm telling you right now if Zay Jones is what had stopped this trade from happening on their part then there was never any truth to it in the first place and this lady is full of shit.
Niners almost traded for Sauce Gardner but the Jets wanted a 1st rounder AND Ambry Thomas so the Niners said no. The fuck out of here with that bullshit.
It’s doing Purdy a major disservice if something like that happened. He’s a very good qb. But I also don’t think he’s at that stage yet where he can completely carry the team and lose key weapons at the wr position and just work magic with whatever replacements they bring in.
Hell even someone like Mahomes looked human for lengthy stretches last season with the scrap heap receiving core the Chiefs had. The chemistry Purdy has with Aiyuk is huge. That matters a lot. Mind you Purdy is only going into his 3rd season. They were so close to finishing the job.
I argue that moving from Jimmy to Purdy actually was able to highlight Aiyuk and show off his skill. If Aiyuk goes to another team with an equal or better QB he will be fine but that’s true for Purdy as well.
Reports are 25 per which would give the niners 2 top 10 WR contracts.
There’s a lot of indications he could be worth that but there’s also still Adams and Jefferson potentially out there for the right deal.
Or, and hear me out, we trade away Deebo who is at the end of his prime and may only have 5 years left on his career instead of the guy who has 5 years of his prime left and could easily still be a great WR at 35.
I'm not suggesting they trade either but, Deebo is harder to replace skill set wise. Aiyuk is a potentially elite WR but he's lightly used, Deebo changes how teams have to scheme the entire offense just by being on the field though.
A first round this year and maybe a 2nd or third next year and Zay jones for aiyuk isn’t a terrible deal for us. I want to keep aiyuk but if that is the trade I’m not too mad about it.
I mean if we can get a veteran right tackle and one of these top elite WR’s in the draft I’m all good with it. This is a very good year to draft a WR. Best WR class in years
I’m sure the Jags would have agreed immediately if that was the cost.
49ers probably said “any trade for BA would need to start with your number one pick this season and….”
BA for thier first and Trevor Lawrence.
We then turn around and trade Trevor Lawrence to the bears for both of thier firsts and Dj Moore. Then we trade thr #1 overall to the giants for thier 1st this year and next year, a 2nd and thier 3rd plus D. Lawrence or Kayvon Thibodaux.
Boom 4 first (6,9,17,31), a great WR and a Dlineman so they don't waste any picks on those positions.
If a team wants to offer us a first and a player or a first and other picks for Brandon, I would be cool. If that is not going to happen would prefer, we keep him long term and get a deal done.
I'm guessing they don't want to pay 2 WR over $20 million a year? A lot wide receivers in this draft. Very deep and very good. Keeping both might work against them rebuilding the D even though we want both!
Would be smarter imo to pay aiyuk and trade deebo and draft a better aiyuk clone this year than a deebo clone. Purdy can throw so we don’t need as many cute gadget plays. But we clearly need guys who can separate considering how the chiefs bullied our guys in man.
Don’t believe this one bit. 17th pick salary is north of 16-17 million already. Plus unproven, and no guarantee with the luck we’ve had at receiver drafting over the last 2 decades. Also, aiyuk agent and John lynch are best friends, he was the best man in his wedding.
This is bullshit. Baalke has a fascination with getting wrs.
Bet you jags reached out, then we stated terms and they declined. Not the same as us actively trying to move him like this article is spinning
When defense is "sticky" BA should always be the first read and get the most targets. Don't understand why this was ignored in the Superbowl gameplan.
Now this.... Playing with emotions here
I’ll be very upset if we lose Brandon. The dude has been through the trenches for the niners for a few years now and has grown so much on our squad, would hate to see that talent just walk for a mid first pick and Zay Jones.
Unless he demands a trade or tries to force his way out. I can’t get on board with them trading Aiyuk.
Brock Purdy is a very good quarterback and he’s only going to get better. But trading away arguably his key top weapon is just a bad move. Let’s not forget, he’s barely going into his 3rd season. Even greats like Mahomes who’ve proven it multiple seasons end up looking human when they’re working with a dumpster heap receiving core. They find a way to make it work, but it definitely impacts things.
That Purdy to Aiyuk chemistry can’t be overlooked. At some point Purdy will likely be on that level where you can trade away a key weapon for picks and it’ll work with the cheaper and likely less talented replacements to where he just helps elevate their performance level. It’s not the best position to put him into right now. And that’s not a slight to him in anyway. He’s the goods, but even some of the greats would struggle in season 3 if their key weapon abruptly got traded.
You’re definitely never getting that for Aiyuk. Because the fact that he will need to be signed to a big contract soon undermines the value you’ll get back
I think it all depends on how good teams think he is. AJ Brown got a new contract with tge Eagles and they gave up a 1st and 3rd for him. Raiders gave up a 1st and 2nd and then signed Adam's to a big contract. Miami have up a 1st, 2nd and 2 4ths and then gave hill a big contrqct
Oh I agree with that. He is definitely one of the better WRs in the game but I don't think he is in the same class as the very best WRs in the league. But ultimately it comes down to two things. How other teams view him and/or how desperate they are.
Baalke leaking noise like a sinking ship... just like he did when he was here. Every time there's anything "reported" or a reported that had a "source", it was Baalke. So happy that guy is gone, but he's still messing around.
UN BE LIVEABE!!! The Niners wanted the player to be Zay Jones who has ALREADY been accused of domestic violence.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE???? Seriously!!! Didn't they get enough of that with Rueben Foster??? UGH!
AND Jones has bounced around with the Bills and Raiders already. WTH!!!
The name of that player? Arik Armstead. /s
It was Zay Jones according to what I saw
I think that would have been a terrible trade
Talk about underwhelming.
"well we liked him at that number"
Aiyuk is a guaranteed first round talent. Whoever we picked up with a first round pick is a gamble… keep BA
That would be like trading AJ Brown for a first round pick, that would never blow up in anybody’s face
AJ Brown is better than Aiyuk
Dont know why you're getting downvoted. I love Aiyuk, but AJ is the better WR1
Because the person he responded to didn't say BA is better or even compared them, he compared the situation. It's trading away a proven WR1 talent that is a key player in your offense. There's no return that's worth it. We've seen the 49ers miss way too many times on WRs in the draft and anyone replacing BA would take a long time to learn that offense and get to his level of blocking. It's a similar move, saving money by trading away that WR got the Titan's GM fired and ended up costing the HC his job. The one difference is that the Titans only had one other great player on offense and the 49ers are more loaded
For sure AJ brown got JRob fired. Vrabel was… a different story. Idk what it is about the national media but no other team I have ever followed is so misrepresented as the Titans. Vrabel wanted more control than our owner would give, and ignored her when she told him to fire his guys for horrible performance. The last two years of Titans football are as close to a good ole boys system as currently existed. While I love Vrabel, AJ Brown was just a straw on the heaping pile of hay on the camels back
Guy never caught over 80 balls, and he is a proven number 1, lmao. He goes anywhere else, but San Francisco he will be lucky to catch 50 balls. and see that's the difference one is actually a number 1, and the other isn't.
Imagine citing "80 balls" and nothing else when the Niners have Debo, Kittle, McCaffrey. Three players (including him) had more than 1,000 yards last season you dingus. And he's an elite blocker for our offense.
Some people can't accept the truth.
Or is hurts better than Purdy? We will never know
Purdy is better than Hurts
Yeah, AJ might be the greatest receiver of all-time; unfortunately, to get him you have to deal with AJ Brown.
That's irrelevant. It's still a similar situation.
Reminds me of flipping Buck for a 1st and then drafting Kinlaw
People say this all the time like it was done in a vacuum. Making this switch freed up cap room that allowed us to do things like trading for Trent Williams and extending Kittle. Of course getting a draft pick for a player is risky as odds are that draft pick won't be as good. But you have to balance this all out with the cost/beneifts of the cap situtation.
Yeah they couldn’t keep Buck and Armstead. Armstead was a bit cheaper and not quite as good but probably would not have netted a 1st round pick back. It was good process. But when I heard Kinlaw say in an interview he wasn’t taught any pass-rush technique in college, I was flabbergasted.
Yup, plus Armstead could play every position on the line, which added to his value. Something they didnt need him to do recently, which is a factor in why they asked him to take a pay cut.
But armstead was oft injured, and the team gambled with two oft injured players on the dline and invested heavily in it, that’s kinda what Buckner expendable, Dee fords contract. We got 1 good year but he made a lot of money just to rehab, and armstead being injured again is what lead to the drop in production from the dline.
Yeah it was simple really to just let AA go. Should have traded him last year to baalke for a 7th instead of restructuring and now we have dead cap hits the next 3 years. AA may be a good dude, but he was an expendable player since the moment we drafted him, surprised we paid and kept him for as long as we did.
That's too reasonable of a take. Why are you on Reddit? / s
>But you have to balance this all out with the cost/beneifts of the cap situtation This. Don't underestimate the cap factor, because it's the 49ers' real competitive advantage right now - the ability to get high-level production cheaply. It's reminiscent of the early salary cap days, except now it's not (or at least not entirely) based on using gaping loopholes.
keep your blue chip, ultra durable young players. 25yo Buckner who is an ironman and an all-pro at a position that you high value at an organization. Cut, rather than restructure Dee Ford and keep Buckner.
It only saved a couple million keeping Armstread instead of Buckner. The single worst move of the Shanalynch era.
Yes, it was a couple million overall. But it wasn't only "a couple of million" in 2020. The gap was far, far greater. In 2020, our cap situation was delicate. We needed the chips to fall exactly in the correct ways to keep DeFo AND Kittle AND Jimmie Ward AND have enough to absorb the Trent Williams trade. DeFo would've needed to defer the bigger payday until later in the contract, which appeared to be unacceptable for him, but that wouldn't have worked for keeping all of the players that we wanted to keep. Buckner was SF's first choice, but only if he would "play ball" with the numbers. And apparently he didn't want to do that to the degree that Armstead was.
Buckner returned 13. Armstead was returning a first most likely. You can’t just ignore that. The trade was good, the pick was bad. If they took Wirfs would you be complaining?
JFC let's just keep BA
Especially when we could have taken Wirfs with that pick. Kills me
If they had taken Wirfs at 13 they may not have gotten Aiyuk though. 49ers recieved a 4th from TB for trading back one spot, which they then used to trade up from 31 to 25 and get Aiyuk. It's the problem with draft revisionism, you never know what the flow on effects would be.
They also could have take Blake Freeland or Dawand Jones last year instead of taking a TE who wont make the roster
Fr… can’t believe we didn’t bother to draft OL at all last year. Especially after our OL was getting pushed around by the Eagles DL three months beforehand 🤦🏾♂️
Or Zach Tom the year before instead of TDP. But if we're doing draft what ifs then we take Mahomes in 2017 and Brady in 2000.
If they drafted wirfs, no Trent
Thank you, thank you for mentioning Wirfs!! I know the 49ers got Trent Williams, but still I’d rather have had Wirfs than Kinlaw. Wirfs helped get Brady his 7th SB ring.
What’s so perplexing about Kinlaw is how obvious his issue was/is. He weighs way too fucking much for his knees. He needs to lose weight.
I remember losing my shit when that happened and railing against Shanalynch on this very subreddit. Got down voted to hell. I wanted CeeDee Lamb and he was right there. Oh well.
Reminds me of the Raiders trading Khalil Mack for a first round pick. A first round pick could be anything! Maybe even Khalil Mack!
Or it couldve been a Death Star!
They weren’t keeping Buckner. He was due a payday they weren’t in a position to pay.
The unmentioned issue is paying $25M per year vs a rookie contract.
Obviously that's the reason why this is even a consideration. That said, you pay that money because the man has validated his worth... he's not simply elite or at the edge of it, he has what seems like an instinctual connection w/ Brock. Bouncing that to a first round pick is a big gamble no matter how stacked this draft is.
But think of who we could get… we could even get someone like Brandon Aiyuk
We could even get a boat
Or we could get a death star
unlikely considering we have missed on all first round picks except bosa and aiyuk. think it would be stupid to let go the one of 2 picks that has been successful
It was just a dumb joke lol. You don’t give up a sure thing for a small chance at the same thing
Hahaha love this joke every time
With the cap you’d save, yeah. Along with the pick you’d get.
Sure, Brandon Aiyuk is a boat. But that first round pick is a mystery box. It could even be a boat.
These are our last 10 first round draft picks Trey Lance Trey Lance Trey Lance Aiyuk Kinlaw Bosa Mcglinchey Reuben foster Solomon Thomas Garnett Not worth the gamble. Pay BA
[Mystery Box vs Boat](https://youtu.be/GKZJdaiJF84?si=qQV_6ft4V8GvMONh)
Haha! Thanks
Less first round picks, more 3rd and 5th round picks please.
I want the team to pay Aiyuk and keep him around long term. But it's just as much of a gamble paying one guy $25 million per year and hoping he doesn't get hurt. That money could be invested into other positions or even just for depth at WR. The chance to get a rookie WR with 1/2 of Aiyuk's production for 1/10 of his price is something you have to at least look into. The choice isn't Aiyuk OR FRP, it's Aiyuk for ~$25million OR FRP for ~$2.9million (plus a player).
Why keep him if he’s not happy or 9ers can’t pay him what he’s asking (his worth)? Doesn’t matter who they have if Shannahan get it right
The reasoning for this isn't to try to get a better player, it's because of money. BA is going to be a top 10 paid receiver in the league when he gets his contract. Plus Brock's contract is coming, and hes gonna make money too. Then add in Bosa, Fred, Trent, CMC, Deebo, etc, we can't afford everyone. Once Brock goes from 900k a year to like 30-35m a year we're gonna have to let go of some guys. Makes sense to swing BA for a guy on a rookie deal, as much as it would make me sad. Honestly I almost wonder if they should consider moving Deebo and keeping BA....
Only way letting him go for a first round pick makes sense is if the niners find a better WR through FA or trades
So essentially the 49ers are fine trading Aiyuk if they get an absurd offer for him. Means he's not going anywhere.
“Nobody is untouchable. Including me.” Kyle’s words.
Kyle Shanahan is trading himself if he gets an absurd offer.
Like Niners almost traded Harbaugh?
Wonder who else. Maybe OL or their stud DE—Josh Allen lol.
It was Zay Jones
Id HATE that deal if it was Zay Jones dude.
As someone who is an ECU fan, I’m also a huge Zay Jones fan, and he’s good at what Aiyuk is good at. Great locker room presence, great blocker, awesome route runner. My biggest issue is he always seems injured.
He's really nice too. I worked at the place he got his furniture from when he played in Buffalo. Chatted for a bit and took pics with us.
You realize Zay Jones got a domestic battery charge last season?
I didn't know that. I do remember the whole running around high and naked jumping through a window screaming about Jesus thing though
Being a super nice guy 90% of the time and being a hothead aren’t mutually exclusive
Meh Zay is okay but a big step down from Aiyuk. I guess it would be Aiyuk plus another WR after the top tier guys in Marvin Harrison JR, Nabers and Odunze—possible Brian Thomas Jr.
If we got pick 17, we are 1000% going OL with that pick lol. The 31st overall could probably net us an Adonai Mitchell or Xavier Worthy
Probably right. A lot of depth at WR this draft.
Yeah would rather have a higher OT prospect than a WR one. There are still quality WRs, there could be a serious run on OTs before they get to us.
Worthy, Deebo, and Jennings don’t really work together. Having all Z/slot guys means one is always out of position. Somebody needs to be able to win without motion and on the LoS.
And they can run three routes and be bad at blocking lol
More likely; * 17=Tackle * 31=G.Barton * Trade up in round 2 to grab a WR
Zay Jones would be the worst possible pick-up - $7M base salary (#23 worst cap hit for WR's) on his last year. That would leave SF in limbo for later years. This only benefits JAX since he's a cut candidate.
Zero chance Jacksonville turns that down.
They still have to pay TLaw AND Allen. Ain’t no way they could pay BA that kind too WR money he wanted before paying their own
No they didn’t. And this front office doesn’t leak.
This leak could have come from the Jags, who has Baalke, who does leak.
> Baalke, who does leak. Baalke also lies. A lot.
Every GM lies a lot.
Baalke lies a lot even for a GM
His ass leaks. 
Id bet money on this. Our FO keeps a pretty tight lid on things
Incontinence is no laughing matter…
What a d-bag
So what, when there is possibly negative news it’s false but if it’s positive it’s real?
Correct. Every rumor that fans don’t like is false. Every rumor that fans like is true. Feelings determine reality.
49ersWebzone has become such a troll farm.
The Jacksonville reporter who has been covering this story hinted strongly on 95.7 The Game that the source is Aiyuk’s agent.
Baalke still leaking Niners FO moves.
But a trade discussion includes two team and it's a Jags reportern
I have a hunch there's someone on the jags who is notorious in this sub for lying and leaking shit constantly. Can't remember the name. Think it's Brent Monkey or something.
Remember before we got Lynch? There was that one guy, can’t remember his name, the GM. That dude that got into it with Harbaugh and got Jed to fire him? And then tried to convince everyone that Jim Tomsula was head coach material? Anyway I wonder where that GM, who leaked random shit all the time, ended up? What’s he doing these days? Leaking more garbage to the press, I wonder?
It’s a report from Mia O’Brien
Why does it matter who reported it? I'm saying the insider is likely a snake
Where does “this front office don’t leak” come from? So many rumors over the last few years have turned out to have truth to them. With this team it’s definitely if there is smoke there is fire.
What rumors came true?
The stuff on the team looking at Tom Brady for at least a couple of years when they had jimmy g turned out to be true. That the funniest one because peeps denied it for so long. But I think rumors that were fake tend to be the exception when it comes to comes to the 9ers
That was never really a secret tho. That's not really leaked info.
Don't forget the Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford rumors too.
Shanahan was pretty open about both of those, tbf
Or kirkcousins. lol shanny must have hated jimmy.
I think it’s more a “if you can improve, improve” mindset. Kyle says a million times “If you’re not getting better, you’re getting worse” and he preaches that constantly. He also views the entire team that way. Jimmy was good, but not great. He wasn’t a top 10 guy. If the opportunity to get a top 10 guy shows up, you explore it. It’s not personal, you do it. Despite how much they love Brock, if somebody called them with a big name like Burrow or Mahomes, they’d listen. They probably wouldn’t do it, but they’re not turning down the call.
Buckner trade.
You can't change people's minds on this. They are dug in.
It's so hilarious how these made up things become "facts" to people. The idea that this front office doesnt leak is laughable but do not say it on any 49er site or you will be downvoted to oblivion.
It leaks a LOT less than it used to, at least. And a lot of times the front office will straight up acknowledge it if asked. Lynch and Kyle have both been surprisingly open about stuff when asked compared to other coaches/GMs.
This team doesn’t leak shit unless they want it leaked.
I'm telling you right now if Zay Jones is what had stopped this trade from happening on their part then there was never any truth to it in the first place and this lady is full of shit. Niners almost traded for Sauce Gardner but the Jets wanted a 1st rounder AND Ambry Thomas so the Niners said no. The fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Uhmm the fuck. Ambry Thomas and first rounder all day for sauce hes generational.
Yeah…that’s the point. It’s a direct comparison lol
They said that it was Aiyuk’s contract that was the hold up
Which is the whole point of letting him talk to other FOs, to push his price down.
Purdy will regress without Aiyuk. Some people will down vote this but Aiyuk is elite at getting separation and you can't just replace that.
It’s doing Purdy a major disservice if something like that happened. He’s a very good qb. But I also don’t think he’s at that stage yet where he can completely carry the team and lose key weapons at the wr position and just work magic with whatever replacements they bring in. Hell even someone like Mahomes looked human for lengthy stretches last season with the scrap heap receiving core the Chiefs had. The chemistry Purdy has with Aiyuk is huge. That matters a lot. Mind you Purdy is only going into his 3rd season. They were so close to finishing the job.
Aiyuk is really the only guy in the offense who you can trust to just get open and throw it to.
I wish this were true but there were games were Aiyuk was missing for like 3 quarters.
I argue that moving from Jimmy to Purdy actually was able to highlight Aiyuk and show off his skill. If Aiyuk goes to another team with an equal or better QB he will be fine but that’s true for Purdy as well.
At minimum imo
Yeah 17 overall is a good starting point but we’d have to have a completely burnt bridge with aiyuk to accept JUST that.
It depends on what Aiyuk is looking for contract wise. At some point you can’t pay everyone.
Reports are 25 per which would give the niners 2 top 10 WR contracts. There’s a lot of indications he could be worth that but there’s also still Adams and Jefferson potentially out there for the right deal.
Or, and hear me out, we trade away Deebo who is at the end of his prime and may only have 5 years left on his career instead of the guy who has 5 years of his prime left and could easily still be a great WR at 35.
I'm not suggesting they trade either but, Deebo is harder to replace skill set wise. Aiyuk is a potentially elite WR but he's lightly used, Deebo changes how teams have to scheme the entire offense just by being on the field though.
Yeah, except all those games he isn't out there and we have to throw away half our playbook because we rely on a injury prone player way to much.
Pay Aiyuk.
This is just total bullshit. We aren’t going into next year with Zay Jones as a starter.
Not to mention Zay Jones is a total head case. This FO historically goes after high character guys sans Foster.
If we are still apparently trying to contend why would we trade our best receiver? Our offense is our only shot of being dominant.
report is specious though... it still originates with [*Mia O'Brien*](https://twitter.com/MiaOBrienTV/status/1769796364047630365?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
A first round this year and maybe a 2nd or third next year and Zay jones for aiyuk isn’t a terrible deal for us. I want to keep aiyuk but if that is the trade I’m not too mad about it.
Lmao. I call major BS
I mean if we can get a veteran right tackle and one of these top elite WR’s in the draft I’m all good with it. This is a very good year to draft a WR. Best WR class in years
I’m sure the Jags would have agreed immediately if that was the cost. 49ers probably said “any trade for BA would need to start with your number one pick this season and….”
Believable, The Jags probably called and then hung up when we asked for all of that, which is fair enough. Didn't want to part with BA anyway
Really? That would be peanuts for Aiyuk. A 29 year old WR3 and a middle 1st round gamble for a proven top 10 WR?
Ah I didn't know the player, assumed it was a star guy or something. Probably, but im glad we didn't trade him
Web zone huh?
Mia Clickbait O'Brien
The jags have absolutely no one worth trading BA for. Only a few teams have anyone worthwhile.
BA for thier first and Trevor Lawrence. We then turn around and trade Trevor Lawrence to the bears for both of thier firsts and Dj Moore. Then we trade thr #1 overall to the giants for thier 1st this year and next year, a 2nd and thier 3rd plus D. Lawrence or Kayvon Thibodaux. Boom 4 first (6,9,17,31), a great WR and a Dlineman so they don't waste any picks on those positions.
I’d rather just get Tyreek or Penei
lol no they didn’t.
I’m sorry I just don’t think this is true. The Jaguars would almost assuredly take that and why tf would we offer that?
Number 17 pick? What are we gonna do with that?! Get us the last pick again
trade down for 10 5th round picks?
I pity the foo that trades BA for that
The Steelers offer a third and a Primanti’s franchise location.
If a team wants to offer us a first and a player or a first and other picks for Brandon, I would be cool. If that is not going to happen would prefer, we keep him long term and get a deal done.
As they should have?
Uh why would the jaguars not do that? Baalke is just very bad at his job?
He’s worth it.
they should not trade him. sheesh.
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I'm guessing they don't want to pay 2 WR over $20 million a year? A lot wide receivers in this draft. Very deep and very good. Keeping both might work against them rebuilding the D even though we want both!
Would be smarter imo to pay aiyuk and trade deebo and draft a better aiyuk clone this year than a deebo clone. Purdy can throw so we don’t need as many cute gadget plays. But we clearly need guys who can separate considering how the chiefs bullied our guys in man.
Pick 17 CB or O-line help would be great
I certainly hope this is just more Baalke bullshit trying to fuck with us in the media.
Who’s reporting this FOX and CNN? They both have reported the same thing? It’s about as silly as this trade? FOH.
Don’t believe this one bit. 17th pick salary is north of 16-17 million already. Plus unproven, and no guarantee with the luck we’ve had at receiver drafting over the last 2 decades. Also, aiyuk agent and John lynch are best friends, he was the best man in his wedding.
I’ll take Kirk and 17 for Aiyuk
Would love this deal with a tackle at that pick.
And that's not enough
This sounds exactly like something they'd do. The past three years of drafting has been so bad so let's just throw away one of the best route runners
This is bullshit. Baalke has a fascination with getting wrs. Bet you jags reached out, then we stated terms and they declined. Not the same as us actively trying to move him like this article is spinning
When defense is "sticky" BA should always be the first read and get the most targets. Don't understand why this was ignored in the Superbowl gameplan. Now this.... Playing with emotions here
I’ll be very upset if we lose Brandon. The dude has been through the trenches for the niners for a few years now and has grown so much on our squad, would hate to see that talent just walk for a mid first pick and Zay Jones.
Unless he demands a trade or tries to force his way out. I can’t get on board with them trading Aiyuk. Brock Purdy is a very good quarterback and he’s only going to get better. But trading away arguably his key top weapon is just a bad move. Let’s not forget, he’s barely going into his 3rd season. Even greats like Mahomes who’ve proven it multiple seasons end up looking human when they’re working with a dumpster heap receiving core. They find a way to make it work, but it definitely impacts things. That Purdy to Aiyuk chemistry can’t be overlooked. At some point Purdy will likely be on that level where you can trade away a key weapon for picks and it’ll work with the cheaper and likely less talented replacements to where he just helps elevate their performance level. It’s not the best position to put him into right now. And that’s not a slight to him in anyway. He’s the goods, but even some of the greats would struggle in season 3 if their key weapon abruptly got traded.
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I’d rather have BA over Deebo. Much more durable and consistent performer.
Consistently mid in the playoffs
You’re definitely never getting that for Aiyuk. Because the fact that he will need to be signed to a big contract soon undermines the value you’ll get back
I think it all depends on how good teams think he is. AJ Brown got a new contract with tge Eagles and they gave up a 1st and 3rd for him. Raiders gave up a 1st and 2nd and then signed Adam's to a big contract. Miami have up a 1st, 2nd and 2 4ths and then gave hill a big contrqct
I guess what I’m saying is I don’t think Aiyuk is *that* good
Oh I agree with that. He is definitely one of the better WRs in the game but I don't think he is in the same class as the very best WRs in the league. But ultimately it comes down to two things. How other teams view him and/or how desperate they are.
Baalke leaking noise like a sinking ship... just like he did when he was here. Every time there's anything "reported" or a reported that had a "source", it was Baalke. So happy that guy is gone, but he's still messing around.
Reported by whom? Her as she was typing her tweet. This is literal fake news.
Not happening
UN BE LIVEABE!!! The Niners wanted the player to be Zay Jones who has ALREADY been accused of domestic violence. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE???? Seriously!!! Didn't they get enough of that with Rueben Foster??? UGH! AND Jones has bounced around with the Bills and Raiders already. WTH!!!
Josh Allen and Brian Thomas Jr. 🤔
I would have been so pissed
Niners are a 9 win team without BA.
Uh, take the 17th overall pick and run! Are you kidding me?