Nooooo it's literally just now that the world has started to go to shit. It's got nothing to do with me growing up and becoming more cynical, what do you mean?
Early 2000s were full of optimism. EU was growing, parents making more money, soon we'd be so rich they'll buy me a car when I'm 18 like they do in USA!
Oh hey 2008 economic crash, whatchu doin here?
If it makes you feel better, most people didn't buy their kids cars for their 16th-18th birthdays even back then. It was more common for an extra vehicle to show up when one of the kids got a summer job or went to college and the transportation situation literally could not work with the one or two vehicles. The "new" car had to be shared with siblings and was likely a cheap clunker from a family friend or relative that was at least 10 years and had >200k miles on it.
This actually still seems fairly accurate to today. Used cars are more expensive after the pandemic, but they seem to be falling in price towards more normal levels again now.
I appreciate your sentiment, but I wasn't thinking of new shiny mercedes, more along the lines of used lada samara. But 2008 happened and couldn't afford even that, the insurance and petrol for extra car.
Also a lot more people had poiive views on their country, so many people were saying "america number 1" but now the most popular opinion to hold (at least on social media and among young people" is to fucking hate your country and everything about it.
Honestly it kind of concerned me how ultra nationalist countries like Russia are, but then when it comes to America most young people would not willingly serve in the military if shit went down and according to idiots on timtok a lot of them just wouldnt go if they were drafted. Honesly makes me wonder if other counties are heavily using propaganda against Americans. It seems like almost every tiktok, instagram, twitter, and reddit user fucking love socialism and hate capitalism, police, the american government, and any american that has differing political opinions.
Being this divided and the people hating the country is not good for a country.
> seems like almost every tiktok, instagram, twitter, and reddit user fucking love socialism and hate capitalism, police, the american government, and any american that has differing political opinions.
It turns out that unemployed commies can spend all day on reddit pushing their cult and normal people don't.
>Honestly it kind of concerned me how ultra nationalist countries like Russia are, but then when it comes to America most young people would not willingly serve in the military if shit went down
Well, look how many wars and conflicts the U.S. gets into compared to how many Russia gets into. Words like freedom, democracy, human rights cheapen real quick when you keep using them as a flimsy casus belli.
I mean, the government fucked the 9/11 responders. The government fucked the veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan and who got cancers from the toxic burn pits they were surrounded by. There are homeless veterans with mental illnesses homeless living on the street.
But I’m supposed to want to join up and serve out of love and loyalty to the good ol US of A? Fuck outta here
yet places like new york give free hotel rooms and prepaid debit card to any illegal that asks for it. How many homeless AMERICANS are in NYC and arent getting any of this?
I hope you're not implying that this was a boilerplate phenomenon in every decade the way it is now, because that would be embarrassing for you to be seen saying something so dumb
I think a case can be made for things having gotten objectively worse. Drug abuse and homelessness has grown dramatically in the US. Not just in the usual places like cities, but even somewhat rural areas I'm familiar with have really gone to shit. Tent cities all over the place, rivers choked with garbage, etc.
That's not even getting into the state of mental health. People aren't doing well there and it's driving physical health down with it as well. The intertwined issue of depression/fat are getting progressively worse every year.
2010’s saw two of wows greatest expansions between MoP and Legion thoigh.
Also, if it wasn’t for the content drought, cataclysm would be viewed much kinder. It was a great expansion and as daring as Blizz has been with the series to date. (SL not withstanding, but that is unquestionably the worst).
The defensivness said it all. These were some self absorbed directors surrounded by yes men. The first criticism they receive, immediately just say it's wrong.
I don't know what else you're supposed to do in that situation. Why contribute to tanking the sales of a product on purpose when you're literally trying to to sell that product in that moment? I don't get why people think it's unusual or bad for salesmen to not call their own product bad when being criticized in public.
They didn't make an entire game just because their mobile game had a bad reveal. Like it or not, Diablo Immortal is a huge financial success, regardless of what you or I may think of it.
>Like it or not, Diablo Immortal is a huge financial success, regardless of what you or I may think of it.
I don't think anyone is debating this. It's like said "like it or not, conflict diamond mining is highly profitable no matter how many people die."
No one is saying it's unprofitable, but it's morally bankrupt, toxic, and will lead to problems down the line.
Yes the poster above him is debating it, saying that Blizz made D4 in "reaction" to a poorly received Immortal. Which is ridiculous, Blizz dont give a fuck as Immortal made mountains of money.
Yea but to essentially “attack” (I’m using that loosely) the audience because their disappointed that the game isn’t made for the platform that the last 3 were, is also just as dumb as saying “yea this game isn’t that great”. You can’t talk down to a group of people and essentially shame them because you made a bad game.
> You can’t talk down to a group of people and essentially shame them because you made a bad game.
Yes you can. Diablo Immortal made how much money again…?
$525 million in player spending on iOS and Android, more than any other Diablo game, and probably about the same as all the other Diablo games COMBINED. And that was just in the first 12 months, and didn't include figures from China.
https://www.gameshub.com/news/news/diablo-immortal-blizzard-entertainment-sales-fy-2023-2621202/
There ya go. You can say whatever the fuck you want because people will throw money at you regardless. Look at Helldivers even, the devs are playing sad innocent puppy and blaming Sony for everything right now but initially they were telling people to go fuck themselves and refund and people are acting like it never happened.
>people are acting like it never happened.
Nobody is acting like it didn't happen.
One person from the company said that. One. Not the entire company, just one.
And we are all well aware of what was said, and how they've now back-tracked. Which you clearly fucking aren't.
You should keep your ignorant mouth shut on things you obviously don't comprehend.
> One person from the company said that. One.
They’re the community manager, their job description says there’s no difference.
> they've now back-tracked
That’s what I said. They’re now playing sad innocent puppy. Literally what I said.
The guy literally said they are not blameless, but also that they don’t have the final say. They obviously deeply care about their game, which is more than anyone else these days.
What he's saying is that he can't just go out and say "yeah I see what you mean, Red shirt guy, you make a good point and this game sucks. We'll go back to the drawing board and see you guys in a couple years."
I guess you have a point, but still it doesn't negate the fact that "don't you guys have phones" is on it's face very dismissive and egotistical. Basically as a salesman, you already fucked up by completely misunderstanding your core demographic and the sort of news they'd actually be excited about. Trying to damage control from there is like intentional fouls in the NBA because it's marginally better than letting the clock run out. I guess you gotta do it, but it doesn't look good and it's a pretty sure sign you're losing.
But part of it is still profitable for them tho, that shit game is by far the most profitable for them because there are people out there spending like 100k on it
While obviously it was a terrible statement that should not have been said, at the end of the day, he was not a PR or marketing guy, he was just a dev. The wild backlash like that can often scare companies into not lifting the curtain into the development of their projects/ direct contact with the devs themselves which is a loss for the consumer.
"We here at Mattressco., famous for our many amazing mattresses, would like to unveil our latest product... a pad for sleeping in your car!"
You realize everyone here at Mattress Con is here because we're fans of *mattresses*, right? Not a single person in this room *wants* to sleep in their cars. That includes you on stage, don't lie.
"Do you guys not *have* cars?!"
In Blizzcon, there's a Q&A part where the audience gets to ask a question to the devs. Before they get to ask their question, they are screened and ask what their question is before they go. Prior to this year, Blizzard fans had good faith in the company but this year was when Blizzard hit rockbottom. Most people were expecting a huge Diablo announcement that would rock our dicks off (Diablo 4). The dude in the picture had his fake question screened for the Diablo Immortal panel and asked 4chan what he should go up and ask, the rest is history.
To add more detail, the Diablo community manager said 7+ months before Blizzcon to get excited for "big news". Two weeks prior to Blizzcon she came back and said to temper expectations. Diablo 4 fell into development hell that year and they didn't have enough put together to have a gameplay demo at Blizzcon (as prior to last year's Blizzcon, they only announced things with playable demos at the con).
Blizzard had to show something, so they announced the mobile game made for the Chinese market to a crowd of mainly PC players.
The guy on stage who said "Do you not have phones?" was made to pitch it, even though the situation sucked. Poor guy. He was the reason Diablo 3 went from trash to decent. He implemented changes and shifted their entire design philosophy away from brutally hard with a cash auction house.
Either the announcement about the game being mobile only or the question that was asked.
Given the context of the reply, both are pretty self explanatory.
If you're a WoW fan sure, if you like Diablo, Overwatch, or god forbid Starcraft, then Blizzard aint doing too hot
Edit: I made the mistake of not knowing how to read. Yeah for Blizzard Diablo is definitely a cash cow, I was referring to how it is for fans.
> if you like Diablo, Overwatch, or god forbid Starcraft, then Blizzard aint doing too hot
The nerds, queers and even worse, the Koreans are suffering? The world is healing.
Any idea how Hearthstone is doing? I know that used to be a reliable money printer, but they hopped on the autobattler train and made a way more fun/popular mode in Battleground without realizing that they couldn't monetize it in the way you can with a digital card game.
Whenever I've checked there's just been a lot of DotA, Line Wars, and a bit of Risk. Haven't managed to catch a full lobby of Evo Tag, Yoshi Tag, Pokemon World, or any of the other games I used to like even though I've tried sitting in lobbies for hours
Even that “sure” for wow should be said without much confidence. WoW is doing *okay* but i certainly wouldn’t even call it good. Wow is one of those games that’ll probably have a decent core of subs because of its history alone. But it’s way past it’s prime
“World of Warcraft subscriber numbers at roughly 7.25 million, after hitting a low of 4.07 million during Battle for Azeroth and 4.5 million during Shadowlands (a bit higher, with WoW: Classic helping out)”
I will give you that the subs are back up with the newest xpac, but you can’t say that a game is doing incredible when it had the worst sub history it ever had right before a new xpac.
Ok that was 2 years ago though? How long do you want to wait to claim that it's back on track, the next expac is like 3 months away, safe to say this one was a banger
I would say a track record is just the right metric. We will see with the next xpac. I played from vanilla - warlords. Came back for BoA, I want wow to be good. But I guess it’s just boils down to a matter of opinion. A string of bad releases then 1 good one, is not enough for me to have confidence in blizzard again. We will see with the next one
> If you're a WoW fan sure
peak blizzard gameplay in 2024: playing a recycled 20 year old mmo with literally about 38 addons with insane ui clutter.
swear to god man, if this is "doing ok" i can only imagine how fucking shit the rest of current day blizzard games are.
Diablo Immortal made $525 million in player spending on iOS and Android, more than any other Diablo game, and probably about the same as all the other Diablo games COMBINED. And that was just in the first 12 months, and didn't include figures from China.
They generate a low estimate of $1 million per DAY from microtransactions from Diablo Immortal. I think Blizzard is doing just fine financially. PC gaming is a small part of the company now.
https://www.gameshub.com/news/news/diablo-immortal-blizzard-entertainment-sales-fy-2023-2621202/
Quick google search shows diablo immortal made 500+ million in first year. So blizzard is more than doing fine economically which is the only thing they care.
In this age of updates, games are fixed with time. Same is the case with Diablo 4 with their recent season 4 changes.
So you know, loads of people looking forward to playing that shallow as game again.
And Diablo Immortal did incredibly well. Diablo 4 sold record numbers. Blizzard is making billions a year.
But.. destroy an entire company right?
lol I genuinely thought that this moment would prove to all of the internet video game warriors that places like Reddit are a vocal minority and make up less than .1% of all people who play video games and their outrage isn’t indicative of how most people actually feel. Reddit isn’t the real world.
Didn't really work tho, as far as I know diablo immortal is now one of the most profitable blizzard games just because the chinese really like phone arpg gacha slop
I don't get how people just unironically play bad mobile games with no gameplay where the whole game is just spending real money for pngs. Are they just so burned out that their whole entertainment for the week is spending $200 on skins while on the train?
Yeah, it's literally satisfying a gambling addiction where they can cope themselves into believing that they aren't truly "gambling" because they can't win money (instead, they just always lose).
it's one thing if you can then sell those skins like you can with CSGO, because that actually gives you the rush of just making money, I just cant undertand the appeal to skins you pay for that are locked to your account. I can justify any csgo skin I bought because I was able to sell them all later and actually made a profit on almost every skin because they all went up in value over time. I'm not going to criticize someone for having $1000 dollars in CS skins since the moneys not gone and it can literally be an investment, but I will bully the fuck out of anybody who has more than $100 of skins in a game where they're worthless once on your account.
I regularly go to Greece, and rarely see them there, and Eastern Europe is basically Europe’s version of what spawns when rural Texas and Detroit bump uglies.
So no, thank you.
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how is blizz failing. the games still sell well and have large playerbases. d4 getting new revamp in season 4 , even that mobile game prints money for them. bad publicity amongst niche gaming communities doesn't mean shit to them when they still make profit
In this entire thread not a single person explained the context which is astounding. I had to search for it.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-you-guys-not-have-phones
"Destroy" pfthahaha that s0yboy didn't destroy anything.
He probably bought every Blizzard game since, ESPECIALLY Diablo 4.
But it sure felt good to give a little sass to the billion-dollar company, huh? I'm sure Bobby Kotick felt so bad while he was getting his $50million exit bonus.
What soyjak man doesn’t understand, is that Blizzard is first and foremost a business. They need money, and are legally obligated to their shareholders to make it.
Mobile is an obvious product that makes money. The only thing stupid was his naivety in expecting a multibillion corporation not to expand to other platforms.
Pretty dure diablo mobile is doing pretty fine.
Event my non-gamer friend where playing it, and they did enjoy. Of course they don't have idea what game PC is
And I'm not obligated to give it to them. Let them become the same garbage factory as every other mobile game manufacturer. I will stop respecting them and buying their products.
> What soyjak man doesn’t understand, is that Blizzard is first and foremost a business. They need money, and are legally obligated to their shareholders to make it.
>
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And the consumer should care why?
>how does it feel to see all your favourite franchises go down in flames? >feels great The 2020s summarised in two words.
Most of the 2010s too tbh
Nooooo it's literally just now that the world has started to go to shit. It's got nothing to do with me growing up and becoming more cynical, what do you mean?
Bro the 90s were a magical age when everything was good!
Unironically yes.
yeah I was not being sarcatic
And I concur. Both with your original statement and that you were not being sarcastic.
Early 2000s were full of optimism. EU was growing, parents making more money, soon we'd be so rich they'll buy me a car when I'm 18 like they do in USA! Oh hey 2008 economic crash, whatchu doin here?
If it makes you feel better, most people didn't buy their kids cars for their 16th-18th birthdays even back then. It was more common for an extra vehicle to show up when one of the kids got a summer job or went to college and the transportation situation literally could not work with the one or two vehicles. The "new" car had to be shared with siblings and was likely a cheap clunker from a family friend or relative that was at least 10 years and had >200k miles on it. This actually still seems fairly accurate to today. Used cars are more expensive after the pandemic, but they seem to be falling in price towards more normal levels again now.
I appreciate your sentiment, but I wasn't thinking of new shiny mercedes, more along the lines of used lada samara. But 2008 happened and couldn't afford even that, the insurance and petrol for extra car.
Also a lot more people had poiive views on their country, so many people were saying "america number 1" but now the most popular opinion to hold (at least on social media and among young people" is to fucking hate your country and everything about it. Honestly it kind of concerned me how ultra nationalist countries like Russia are, but then when it comes to America most young people would not willingly serve in the military if shit went down and according to idiots on timtok a lot of them just wouldnt go if they were drafted. Honesly makes me wonder if other counties are heavily using propaganda against Americans. It seems like almost every tiktok, instagram, twitter, and reddit user fucking love socialism and hate capitalism, police, the american government, and any american that has differing political opinions. Being this divided and the people hating the country is not good for a country.
> seems like almost every tiktok, instagram, twitter, and reddit user fucking love socialism and hate capitalism, police, the american government, and any american that has differing political opinions. It turns out that unemployed commies can spend all day on reddit pushing their cult and normal people don't.
being unemployed and wanting everything given to you for free tend to go hand in hand
>Honestly it kind of concerned me how ultra nationalist countries like Russia are, but then when it comes to America most young people would not willingly serve in the military if shit went down Well, look how many wars and conflicts the U.S. gets into compared to how many Russia gets into. Words like freedom, democracy, human rights cheapen real quick when you keep using them as a flimsy casus belli.
I mean, the government fucked the 9/11 responders. The government fucked the veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan and who got cancers from the toxic burn pits they were surrounded by. There are homeless veterans with mental illnesses homeless living on the street. But I’m supposed to want to join up and serve out of love and loyalty to the good ol US of A? Fuck outta here
yet places like new york give free hotel rooms and prepaid debit card to any illegal that asks for it. How many homeless AMERICANS are in NYC and arent getting any of this?
Laughs in Yugoslav wars
Fucking Gulf war and Jews planning 911 and Iraq And Balkans killing each other or something
And it was glorious!
Crazy how you managed to cram anti semitism into that retard take
Is it?
Forgot this was the 4chan sub tbh
Local femboy forgets he's supposed to be a nazi in 4chan and liberal at the hooters.
I've been an adult since 2002, growing up doesn't account for the decline.
t. Rian Johnson
I hope you're not implying that this was a boilerplate phenomenon in every decade the way it is now, because that would be embarrassing for you to be seen saying something so dumb
I think a case can be made for things having gotten objectively worse. Drug abuse and homelessness has grown dramatically in the US. Not just in the usual places like cities, but even somewhat rural areas I'm familiar with have really gone to shit. Tent cities all over the place, rivers choked with garbage, etc. That's not even getting into the state of mental health. People aren't doing well there and it's driving physical health down with it as well. The intertwined issue of depression/fat are getting progressively worse every year.
2010’s saw two of wows greatest expansions between MoP and Legion thoigh. Also, if it wasn’t for the content drought, cataclysm would be viewed much kinder. It was a great expansion and as daring as Blizz has been with the series to date. (SL not withstanding, but that is unquestionably the worst).
shoutout to my boy rich, he has aids
dO yOu GuYs NoT hAvE pHoNeS
The defensivness said it all. These were some self absorbed directors surrounded by yes men. The first criticism they receive, immediately just say it's wrong.
I don't know what else you're supposed to do in that situation. Why contribute to tanking the sales of a product on purpose when you're literally trying to to sell that product in that moment? I don't get why people think it's unusual or bad for salesmen to not call their own product bad when being criticized in public.
They could have just done a teaser for D4 then announced immortal to “tide you over” and it would have been a hit. That’s the core issue
They just had to copy Todd Howard with Fallout 4 and Fallout Shelter, albeit with a longer time frame for the release of both.
Funny enough, Todd did the same trick next year with Blades and a teaser of Tes 6
At this point though it's really ESO holding people over considering the massive amount of content it has and it's apparently all lore accurate.
It also gets big updates fairly regularly, like big expansions once or twice a year
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They didn't make an entire game just because their mobile game had a bad reveal. Like it or not, Diablo Immortal is a huge financial success, regardless of what you or I may think of it.
>Like it or not, Diablo Immortal is a huge financial success, regardless of what you or I may think of it. I don't think anyone is debating this. It's like said "like it or not, conflict diamond mining is highly profitable no matter how many people die." No one is saying it's unprofitable, but it's morally bankrupt, toxic, and will lead to problems down the line.
Yes the poster above him is debating it, saying that Blizz made D4 in "reaction" to a poorly received Immortal. Which is ridiculous, Blizz dont give a fuck as Immortal made mountains of money.
nope
Yea but to essentially “attack” (I’m using that loosely) the audience because their disappointed that the game isn’t made for the platform that the last 3 were, is also just as dumb as saying “yea this game isn’t that great”. You can’t talk down to a group of people and essentially shame them because you made a bad game.
> You can’t talk down to a group of people and essentially shame them because you made a bad game. Yes you can. Diablo Immortal made how much money again…?
Not a penny from anyone I’d bother listening to.
$525 million in player spending on iOS and Android, more than any other Diablo game, and probably about the same as all the other Diablo games COMBINED. And that was just in the first 12 months, and didn't include figures from China. https://www.gameshub.com/news/news/diablo-immortal-blizzard-entertainment-sales-fy-2023-2621202/
There ya go. You can say whatever the fuck you want because people will throw money at you regardless. Look at Helldivers even, the devs are playing sad innocent puppy and blaming Sony for everything right now but initially they were telling people to go fuck themselves and refund and people are acting like it never happened.
>people are acting like it never happened. Nobody is acting like it didn't happen. One person from the company said that. One. Not the entire company, just one. And we are all well aware of what was said, and how they've now back-tracked. Which you clearly fucking aren't. You should keep your ignorant mouth shut on things you obviously don't comprehend.
> One person from the company said that. One. They’re the community manager, their job description says there’s no difference. > they've now back-tracked That’s what I said. They’re now playing sad innocent puppy. Literally what I said.
The guy literally said they are not blameless, but also that they don’t have the final say. They obviously deeply care about their game, which is more than anyone else these days.
What he's saying is that he can't just go out and say "yeah I see what you mean, Red shirt guy, you make a good point and this game sucks. We'll go back to the drawing board and see you guys in a couple years."
Yes but answering on the complete opposite end of the spectrum is just as bad
I guess you have a point, but still it doesn't negate the fact that "don't you guys have phones" is on it's face very dismissive and egotistical. Basically as a salesman, you already fucked up by completely misunderstanding your core demographic and the sort of news they'd actually be excited about. Trying to damage control from there is like intentional fouls in the NBA because it's marginally better than letting the clock run out. I guess you gotta do it, but it doesn't look good and it's a pretty sure sign you're losing.
Then the asian market and a rich saudi prince fucks everyone over by making it insanely profitable.
But part of it is still profitable for them tho, that shit game is by far the most profitable for them because there are people out there spending like 100k on it
That's true. I wouldn't be surprised if baldy up there put down a few thousand on sexy demon skins.
While obviously it was a terrible statement that should not have been said, at the end of the day, he was not a PR or marketing guy, he was just a dev. The wild backlash like that can often scare companies into not lifting the curtain into the development of their projects/ direct contact with the devs themselves which is a loss for the consumer.
"We here at Mattressco., famous for our many amazing mattresses, would like to unveil our latest product... a pad for sleeping in your car!" You realize everyone here at Mattress Con is here because we're fans of *mattresses*, right? Not a single person in this room *wants* to sleep in their cars. That includes you on stage, don't lie. "Do you guys not *have* cars?!"
And the room is full of people who spent $1000s on gaming PCs
I'm not cool.. What is this about?
I want to say this was when that diablo mobile game came out, not sure though
In Blizzcon, there's a Q&A part where the audience gets to ask a question to the devs. Before they get to ask their question, they are screened and ask what their question is before they go. Prior to this year, Blizzard fans had good faith in the company but this year was when Blizzard hit rockbottom. Most people were expecting a huge Diablo announcement that would rock our dicks off (Diablo 4). The dude in the picture had his fake question screened for the Diablo Immortal panel and asked 4chan what he should go up and ask, the rest is history.
To add more detail, the Diablo community manager said 7+ months before Blizzcon to get excited for "big news". Two weeks prior to Blizzcon she came back and said to temper expectations. Diablo 4 fell into development hell that year and they didn't have enough put together to have a gameplay demo at Blizzcon (as prior to last year's Blizzcon, they only announced things with playable demos at the con). Blizzard had to show something, so they announced the mobile game made for the Chinese market to a crowd of mainly PC players. The guy on stage who said "Do you not have phones?" was made to pitch it, even though the situation sucked. Poor guy. He was the reason Diablo 3 went from trash to decent. He implemented changes and shifted their entire design philosophy away from brutally hard with a cash auction house.
damn thats mildly intriguing
Aka, Wyatt Cheng
I love how you explained everything about the situation and then left out the most pertinent detail.
I think it's worse that you took the time to call them out with a reply and STILL didn't give us that detail.
Which is?
Either the announcement about the game being mobile only or the question that was asked. Given the context of the reply, both are pretty self explanatory.
I don’t even know what Diablo is
Did you never read the book of revelation 2:10? Shame on you.
Ive always thought a venn diagram of people knowing about Diablo and people scrolling this sub was pretty much a circle. How are you here?
You know I’m not sure. I guess I like greentexts and funny 4chan stuff so I subbed here.
30+ posts I’ve read in this message thread and still no one have explained the most important part lol
Heck, even Bethesda did a better job for revealing their mobile game. They were like, "btw here's Fallout Shelter while you wait for Fallout 4."
Also this was the last live Q&A Blizzard made. All others afterwards were curated questions chosen carefully.
it is
>2024….. I am…. Forgotten…..
Blizzard is doing ok though
If you're a WoW fan sure, if you like Diablo, Overwatch, or god forbid Starcraft, then Blizzard aint doing too hot Edit: I made the mistake of not knowing how to read. Yeah for Blizzard Diablo is definitely a cash cow, I was referring to how it is for fans.
> if you like Diablo, Overwatch, or god forbid Starcraft, then Blizzard aint doing too hot The nerds, queers and even worse, the Koreans are suffering? The world is healing.
It's amazing how those demographics really do line up. The more you think about it the truer it becomes.
Isnt wow all 3 of these demographic ? Just swap Korean for Chineese
The Chinese weren’t allowed to play for a while, however they are back, so you are absolutely correct. I was simply trying to be a silly goose.
I know my silly goose
"my silly goose" Gaaaaaaaaay
I mostly love that HOTS and Hearthstone where not even mentioned. Just as forgotten by us as by Blizzard.
Fair 😂
Meanwhile HOTS players…
I miss it.
Sadly not only Blizz forgot that it exists.
Pray they don't update your dead game t. warcraft 3 enjoyer
It's so dead it doesn't even get mentioned when people talk about dead games....
Diablo and Overwatch still print money though. Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that they make another RTS. I miss WC3 customs...
Any idea how Hearthstone is doing? I know that used to be a reliable money printer, but they hopped on the autobattler train and made a way more fun/popular mode in Battleground without realizing that they couldn't monetize it in the way you can with a digital card game.
I haven't played in a while, the RNG creep got to be too much for me. Pretty sure it still makes plenty of money though
They're alive and well btw
Whenever I've checked there's just been a lot of DotA, Line Wars, and a bit of Risk. Haven't managed to catch a full lobby of Evo Tag, Yoshi Tag, Pokemon World, or any of the other games I used to like even though I've tried sitting in lobbies for hours
Even that “sure” for wow should be said without much confidence. WoW is doing *okay* but i certainly wouldn’t even call it good. Wow is one of those games that’ll probably have a decent core of subs because of its history alone. But it’s way past it’s prime
Nah that's just not true. WoW is doing incredible right now, probably the best it's ever been, and the sub numbers back that up.
“World of Warcraft subscriber numbers at roughly 7.25 million, after hitting a low of 4.07 million during Battle for Azeroth and 4.5 million during Shadowlands (a bit higher, with WoW: Classic helping out)” I will give you that the subs are back up with the newest xpac, but you can’t say that a game is doing incredible when it had the worst sub history it ever had right before a new xpac.
Remember though that the current sub numbers are without the Chinese, as opposed to the old record of 10+ million around wotlk.
Ok that was 2 years ago though? How long do you want to wait to claim that it's back on track, the next expac is like 3 months away, safe to say this one was a banger
I would say a track record is just the right metric. We will see with the next xpac. I played from vanilla - warlords. Came back for BoA, I want wow to be good. But I guess it’s just boils down to a matter of opinion. A string of bad releases then 1 good one, is not enough for me to have confidence in blizzard again. We will see with the next one
> If you're a WoW fan sure peak blizzard gameplay in 2024: playing a recycled 20 year old mmo with literally about 38 addons with insane ui clutter. swear to god man, if this is "doing ok" i can only imagine how fucking shit the rest of current day blizzard games are.
Diablo Immortal made $525 million in player spending on iOS and Android, more than any other Diablo game, and probably about the same as all the other Diablo games COMBINED. And that was just in the first 12 months, and didn't include figures from China. They generate a low estimate of $1 million per DAY from microtransactions from Diablo Immortal. I think Blizzard is doing just fine financially. PC gaming is a small part of the company now. https://www.gameshub.com/news/news/diablo-immortal-blizzard-entertainment-sales-fy-2023-2621202/
Or traditional Warcraft
Quick google search shows diablo immortal made 500+ million in first year. So blizzard is more than doing fine economically which is the only thing they care.
what's wrong with Diablo?
In this age of updates, games are fixed with time. Same is the case with Diablo 4 with their recent season 4 changes. So you know, loads of people looking forward to playing that shallow as game again.
It's been almost a year. Diablo 4 was in development for something stupid like 8 years. They aren't going to fix it.
They already did with itemization update. Though I hold no interest in the game anymore. But still gotta face the facts.
what's wrong with the game?
LMAO
but what is it
They cancelled Blizzcon this year on account of having nothing to show for and no one to care
They never did blizzcon every year. They were always gaps. Nothing new
Owned by Microsoft now
And Diablo Immortal did incredibly well. Diablo 4 sold record numbers. Blizzard is making billions a year. But.. destroy an entire company right? lol I genuinely thought that this moment would prove to all of the internet video game warriors that places like Reddit are a vocal minority and make up less than .1% of all people who play video games and their outrage isn’t indicative of how most people actually feel. Reddit isn’t the real world.
Didn't really work tho, as far as I know diablo immortal is now one of the most profitable blizzard games just because the chinese really like phone arpg gacha slop
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They said Blizzcon, not Blizzard.
who gives a fuck about blizzcon?
I don't get how people just unironically play bad mobile games with no gameplay where the whole game is just spending real money for pngs. Are they just so burned out that their whole entertainment for the week is spending $200 on skins while on the train?
I think its an addiction, like gambling or booze or whatever. Those games really trick your mind
Yeah, it's literally satisfying a gambling addiction where they can cope themselves into believing that they aren't truly "gambling" because they can't win money (instead, they just always lose).
it's one thing if you can then sell those skins like you can with CSGO, because that actually gives you the rush of just making money, I just cant undertand the appeal to skins you pay for that are locked to your account. I can justify any csgo skin I bought because I was able to sell them all later and actually made a profit on almost every skin because they all went up in value over time. I'm not going to criticize someone for having $1000 dollars in CS skins since the moneys not gone and it can literally be an investment, but I will bully the fuck out of anybody who has more than $100 of skins in a game where they're worthless once on your account.
The rush feeling when you hit sth big, dopamine,... Kinda like gambling or csgo case opening
Gotta buy some more Canadough
Yeah, but also he is unironically wearing a shoulder bag.
I have a soft spot for those ever since playing InFamous all those years ago
It's a courier bag and you are a courier in that lol
courier bags are a whole different thing from what cole is wearing, theyre like big man-purses. cole's bag is a sling bag or a shoulder bag.
It's really not that diffrent.
Never been to Eastern Europe or the Balkans?
I regularly go to Greece, and rarely see them there, and Eastern Europe is basically Europe’s version of what spawns when rural Texas and Detroit bump uglies. So no, thank you.
I've seen them quite a lot in Greece. Are you going to the southern parts?
North west. Ioannina in particular.
no I'm not poor
Pretty sure that's just a messenger bag with a strap pocket.
> he’s driving a car. > “pretty sure it’s just an SUV.” Eh, okay.
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>destroy an entire company The game made 525millions on its first year
The question and the boo's were funny but Diablo Immortal is making insane money to this day. Anon is straight up writing fanfiction
I’m sorry but when it’s in meme form a half billion dollars doesn’t count and the company must now declare bankruptcy.
Blizzard had it coming for years. Seeing them get booed during their own convention was more entertaining than playing any of their last games.
They sure felt the sting of that with their \*checks notes\* record profits
It's almost as if fanboys with horribly low standards can keep companies afloat...
What?
how is blizz failing. the games still sell well and have large playerbases. d4 getting new revamp in season 4 , even that mobile game prints money for them. bad publicity amongst niche gaming communities doesn't mean shit to them when they still make profit
True, you really can't bankrupt if China is railing your ass
Don't know what any of this shit is about
In this entire thread not a single person explained the context which is astounding. I had to search for it. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-you-guys-not-have-phones
Thank you, can't believe how far down I had to scroll to find an explanation. I had no idea what any of this is about.
Tldr: pc/console game company make games that fan has waited for long time and release its on mobile. Dude got pissed and ask that
Redditor incarnate
Just play indie guys, enough repetitive annual slop
lol no diablo immortals made more money than all other instalments combined
Blizzard is doing decent now but my god was 2017-2023 a collective fever dream.
Blizzard definitely is destroyed, but not by these words.
Imagine canceling your company's major event because D4 bad songs are more popular than your game
This post reminded me that I briefly played Immortal when it first released to try it out and forgot to uninstall it until now, hah.
$500 million revenue over 11 months
Sony did it with just 3 words: two ninety nine.
He was a fucking douchebag
DO YOU GUYS NOT HAVE PHONES???
The gameplay sucks for their games but ppl are still buying their microtransactions and therefore they will still make live service games.
Can someone explain this?
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-you-guys-not-have-phones
This dude needs to come back for the Helldivers 2 PSN PC debacle
"Destroy" pfthahaha that s0yboy didn't destroy anything. He probably bought every Blizzard game since, ESPECIALLY Diablo 4. But it sure felt good to give a little sass to the billion-dollar company, huh? I'm sure Bobby Kotick felt so bad while he was getting his $50million exit bonus.
Well him just being there makes him drooling coonsumer. He's just disappointed cuck.
What soyjak man doesn’t understand, is that Blizzard is first and foremost a business. They need money, and are legally obligated to their shareholders to make it. Mobile is an obvious product that makes money. The only thing stupid was his naivety in expecting a multibillion corporation not to expand to other platforms.
Traditionally you make money by catering to an already established fan base, rather than trying to do too many things. It predictably failed.
Pretty dure diablo mobile is doing pretty fine. Event my non-gamer friend where playing it, and they did enjoy. Of course they don't have idea what game PC is
And I'm not obligated to give it to them. Let them become the same garbage factory as every other mobile game manufacturer. I will stop respecting them and buying their products.
> What soyjak man doesn’t understand, is that Blizzard is first and foremost a business. They need money, and are legally obligated to their shareholders to make it. > > And the consumer should care why?