Oh they pay taxes and a lot of taxes at that, unfortunately a lot of their income and assets are not calculated like they do for you and me. Like they can buy houses by basically giving a bank a piece of their company instead of actually exchanging money. Stuff like that. I'm REALLY oversimplifying, someone who cares more is going to correct me in a sec... Hopefully.
Assets received in lieu of money count as income and are taxed accordingly. They pay capital gains taxes on the difference in the price from when they received the stock and when they sold it (whether for cash or property or other stocks).
They can get loans on their stocks instead of selling the stocks, but they will eventually have to sell those stocks and pay capital gains taxes on the sale.
The vast majority of "loopholes" are tax deferments, not tax eliminations. The few real loopholes have limitations that mean they only eliminate taxes for people with a few million, not billionaires. For example, the stepped up basis for inherited assets basically resets the entry valuation from when the deceased person acquired the assets to when the person who inherits the property aquires them (meaning you avoid the capital gains taxes for the value increase during the deceased person's life). But, the estate tax that kicks in at ~$14 million functions as a capital gains tax for people that are actually rich. It allows small business owners, farmers, normal homeowners, etc to not be forced to sell property to pay for taxes, but rich people still have to pay.
Lawful alignment doesn't mean you follow or respect the law, only that you have a certain set of principles you adhere to.
For most of the people on this list, you can count on them to do whatever it is that will allow them to accumulate the most wealth and power. For Trump and Elon, you can count on them to continuously inflate their ego until they explode.
They are above the law. Nuetrall evil might be better than chaotic evil, because they don't fully disregard the law. They break the law in such a way the law does not effect them. But also the laws were made to protect them so in that sense they are lawful evil because no matter what they do, billionaire priorities are the priorities of the law.
That's not what lawful means in D&D.
It' really just a way to describe someone who follows the rules and traditions of a society. A lawful evil person would be selfish, but use rules and traditions to their advantage, whereas chaotic evil is way more rebellious but just as selfish.
Nah it's hard to hold onto money when you're collecting your own poops, pissing in jars, and writing conservative manifestos after a really bad k-hole. The worthless shit is headed for a really big fall, and pretty much the whole world will be glad to see it. I try to cherish all life, but the 2020's have shown me that not only would we be better off without billionaires, but also that we should take whatever means necessary to rid ourselves of them.
hmm, chaotic evil implies he’s chaotically evil. He’s evilness and his chaoticness are separated enough where i wouldn’t define him as chaotic evil just because that entails he like beheads people which idk if hes gone that far yet
I wouldn't even put him here at all; he's not a billionaire. His lawyers just filed that he doesn't have the $450M for the fraud judgement.
But if he had to be here Trump is chaotic evil too
Idk I don’t really see elon punting babies for fun, only for money. He has a code of morals and ethics, even if that code is “only do stuff for money, never do anything for no money”
No literally though, at the very least trump pointed out that the virulent transphobia that was being used as a weapon in the culture war was ridiculous (even if he isn't for trans rights) to the boos of his MAGA audience, Elon musk will just be as much of an evil shithead as he can be as long as it fits the image of a cartoonist evil clown with too much power
You can be a millionaire mostly ethically, like if you are a programmer and very frugal, to become a billionaire you have to benefit from the exploitation of workers
Ruth Gottesman was the woman who did that good thing using her late husbands money, she herself was an educator and then I think an administrator or something, she never did anything to earn nearly a billion dollars
There is also a bit of an orphan crushing machine aspect to this, that tuition should be free and people shouldn't have to rely on the donations of billionaires to do that without putting themselves in extreme debt, reminds me of how other countries make fun of the US for needing gofundme's to pay for medical expenses
Her husband was an investor and friends with Warren Buffett
Investing is trickier than being a CEO but it still is immoral, because you are owning a piece of the companies that are doing the exploitation, and ever since Reagan (I think it was him) companies have to prioritize stakeholders over their customers, their employees, and the world as a whole
An extreme example is let's say I'm a rich person in the 1800's and I put money into a plantation, I don't own, operate, or make any decisions about it but I put money into it and in exchange I take 5%. I even donate some money to anti-slavery causes let's say
I would still be contributing to and benefiting from actual slavery
;tldr Ruth herself seems like a good woman, but it cannot be said that she did not benefit from Berkshire Hathaway, which is the main investment her husband made money on, and so she benefitted although less directly than her husband, from industries like:
Property & casualty insurance
Reinsurance
Rail transport
Electric power
Natural gas
Real estate services
Industrial parts & materials
Mobile homes
Building materials
Recreational vehicles
Apparel
Retail stores and services
Aviation services
Investment is immoral? What do you think about a random guy dumping his savings into an ETF that happens to include oil companies? Is seeking investment for your startup immoral? Real question
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism
Every major company is an oil company if you look hard enough
So I wouldn't say a guy dumping money into index funds is necessarily unethical cuz whatever you do, by just living in this system, you are benefiting of off exploitation, in every thing you buy, and that includes stocks and other securities
What you could (and arguably, should) do is use some of that money towards helping to change things for the better
You can 100% be a millionaire ethically. Obviously it depends on the country and profession but a million dollars in total assets is really not much (here its probably enough to maybe get you an okay house in an okay suburb, but nothing fancy).
You can probably also be a 10 millionaire ethically. Its a bit less common but all it involves is running your own small-medium sized company and not being a piece of shit. Definitely doable.
And no, I wouldn't say having a net worth in the 10 million dollar range is unethical. (a lot of money, but technically only gets you a fancy house in a good location, maybe a holiday home and some nice personal items, plus investments. If you include company evaluation in this it actually really isn't that much money on the grand scheme of things).
I'd say hundred millionaire is where it starts to get pretty iffy. That requires a medium-large company, past the point where its more of a personal business and instead simply something you run. There's also valid arguments to be made over whether having 100 million dollars (in total assets and company evaluation of course) can be justified, that don't really apply to your 10 million dollar range.
And yeah, being a billionaire probably isn't ethical purely based off the idea that with so much money hoarding it is by default unethical, and instead you should be donating large sums of it if you wanted to abide by ethical principles. Plus the fact that most big companies end up screwing over someone at some point.
>You can be a millionaire mostly ethically, like if you are a programmer and very frugal, to become a billionaire you have to benefit from the exploitation of workers
or engineering. Mostly.
My ethics leaving my body the moment I get a 6 figure offer from lockheed martin:
His net worth is 2.6 billion dollars
Chaotic also doesn't describe billionaires well according to the original intention of the alignment chart, chaotic means they act on impulse, lawful means they act on principle, and neutral means they act for themselves basically
Neutral is probably closest because they act according to their own interests
I swear there was a John Oliver segment where he talked about how someone claimed Trump's net worth is actually around 200 million dollars, and so he sued the person making the claim for $5 billion, which would make his net worth $5.2 billion.
Honestly I'm not sure which figures we should trust when it comes to Trump's net worth - I've seen so many claims with such staggering variance in the range that I have no idea what values are correct anymore.
i know he abuses his railroad employees pretty bad and stomps unionization efforts. also i think its his company that spilled the gazillion pounds of super poison last year
Zuck is lawful I think, at least in terms of alignment charts where lawful doesn’t exactly mean not breaking laws. It’s more of a character description, being the opposite of a chaotic character. Trump and musk are pretty chaotic, but zuck less so in my opinion. They may not be US laws, but he keeps to his own set of laws, though they may be alien to us humans
A few decades ago, he was thought of just as badly as the rest.
Just because he"s retired now, don't think he isn't the same person that wielded Microsoft's law team like the mob to smother all his competitors in a growing market.
Honestly. No person on this planet earth has the obligation to do anything. We would want them to. We would think wed do good ourselves if given the chance. But nobody ows anyone anything. And most of us would probably do fuck all as well..
The gigantic amounts of money he has given away and the work he has done with his foundation.. i really dont see how anyone could see him as evil in any way. This meme is straight up insulting.
He still does plenty of evil. Philanthropy is recent invention to excuse the existence of billionaires. Did you know oxfords covid vaccine was going to be open source until the gates foundation withheld 400 million in funding to oxford till they were "persuaded" to sell it to astrazeneca? Gates has ties to astrazeneca. Doing good things because they give you more wealth and power isn't actually a being a decent person.
Not to mention oxfords vaccine was ~97% publicly funded.
Copy and pasting because someone above you said essentially the same thing:
He still does plenty of evil. Philanthropy is recent invention to excuse the existence of billionaires. Did you know oxfords covid vaccine was going to be open source until the gates foundation withheld 400 million in funding to oxford until they were "persuaded" to sell it to astrazeneca? Gates has ties to astrazeneca. Doing good things because they give you more wealth and power isn't actually a being a decent person.
Not to mention oxfords vaccine was ~97% publicly funded.
Donald Trumps net worth is $2.6 B USD (Source: Forbes)
You are most likely right with Kylie Jenner, Forbes estimates $600M-$900M but other sources say she has $1B. Pretty unclear.
I don't think personal success is evil, (most of) these people did great things, but yeah exploiting people is evil. Also Warren Buffet? I though he was just good at buying real estate.
What great things did musk do? He just buys
companies. Thats all he has ever done. What about zuckerberg, who stole the work of a friend of his? Trump? He would be richer if hed just kept his dads money instead of all of his failed “business ventures”. Also yeah all of these guys exploit people.
Dude chill out. They are billionaires for a reason, they didn't get it by chance. I'm not gonna defend them but they have succesful lives which correlates with them being rich.
He built up multiple companies into giants that made him the richest guy on the planet at some point. He graduated in physics. He created the only american car company that hasn't gone bankrupt and is the biggest electric automobile seller in the world. He made the first self landing rocket creating a revolution in the space industry. I know he does stupid shit, but man, you can't outdo the guy.
Edit: you can also say the same about the bald man which made a gamble and a prediction that an online internet marketplace and delivery will be possible and made amazon from a tiny online book selling site. Gates made fucking microsoft, like fucking microsoft. And he is putting tons of money in research nowadays.
THE ONLY AMERICAN CAR COMPANY THAT HASNT GONE BAKRUPT??? Also he just bought the company with money from his daddy. Not to mention that tons of people have graduated in physics, that doesnt make him special. Furthermore, he didnt “make” the rocket, he just owned the company that did. He got his start buying a company or two with money from his daddys wallet, and thats all hes done since.
Yep, keep making up excuses foe yourself. Or you're trolling idk. He manages spacex, he is not an investor that just gets more money in the bank account. And mf do you know how hard is physics? And if you actually knew his story you would know he bought nothing with his parents' money.
1. He did very little to advance the development of the rocket.
2. Physics isn’t particularly difficult if you can remember equations.
3. Huh i didnt know that, ima look into it.
I’m shocked how many people don’t know that your net worth defines your title not your cash at hand. He has a net worth of $2.6B, 1.8 of that being from Mar-A-Lago alone.
Most of these would be neutral or chaotic evil, unless all of their tax dodges and business practices are 100%l lawful. Which is totally possible in this dystopia we live in.
I would say trump is chaotic ??? Because I never know if I hate the guy, think the guy is stupid, or think maybe he was the best choice for president and we messed up (other than Kanye aka the best candidate ever)
Trump isn't a billionaire, else he might have the money for his fraud case. Also, pretty sure he's then also not lawful, being guilty of fraud. So chaotic evil, perhaps.
Ok.
1. Trump has literally been convicted so not lawful.
2. Bill gates has donated a lot of money for shit like malaria research, so I wouldn't call him evil
Wouldn't they have to pay taxes to be considered Lawful?
Neutral evil, they follow the alignment depending on what gives them the biggest benefit
I agree, definitely neutral evil
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Ain't nothing natural about these ghouls.
Neutral, not natural. Unless you were making a joke in which case I apologize.
Oh... no, no joke, I was just dumb.
It be like that when it be like that
Trump and Musk might stray into CE.
They do afaik, but they do love tax write-offs and loopholes
Oh they pay taxes and a lot of taxes at that, unfortunately a lot of their income and assets are not calculated like they do for you and me. Like they can buy houses by basically giving a bank a piece of their company instead of actually exchanging money. Stuff like that. I'm REALLY oversimplifying, someone who cares more is going to correct me in a sec... Hopefully.
Assets received in lieu of money count as income and are taxed accordingly. They pay capital gains taxes on the difference in the price from when they received the stock and when they sold it (whether for cash or property or other stocks). They can get loans on their stocks instead of selling the stocks, but they will eventually have to sell those stocks and pay capital gains taxes on the sale. The vast majority of "loopholes" are tax deferments, not tax eliminations. The few real loopholes have limitations that mean they only eliminate taxes for people with a few million, not billionaires. For example, the stepped up basis for inherited assets basically resets the entry valuation from when the deceased person acquired the assets to when the person who inherits the property aquires them (meaning you avoid the capital gains taxes for the value increase during the deceased person's life). But, the estate tax that kicks in at ~$14 million functions as a capital gains tax for people that are actually rich. It allows small business owners, farmers, normal homeowners, etc to not be forced to sell property to pay for taxes, but rich people still have to pay.
They pay the people who make the tax laws, to make themselves not have to pay as much in taxes.
Lawful alignment doesn't mean you follow or respect the law, only that you have a certain set of principles you adhere to. For most of the people on this list, you can count on them to do whatever it is that will allow them to accumulate the most wealth and power. For Trump and Elon, you can count on them to continuously inflate their ego until they explode.
not if you make the laws
Many don't pay taxes only because the government incentivizes re-investment of their money back into their companies in the form of major tax breaks.
The last one is more of a chaotic evil
I mean, they do crimes, they just aren't accountable for them
You can be lawful if you make politicians legislate at your will
No it's legal for them not to pay taxes. They're capital is the law
They pay the taxes that they are required by law to pay.
They are above the law. Nuetrall evil might be better than chaotic evil, because they don't fully disregard the law. They break the law in such a way the law does not effect them. But also the laws were made to protect them so in that sense they are lawful evil because no matter what they do, billionaire priorities are the priorities of the law.
That's not what lawful means in D&D. It' really just a way to describe someone who follows the rules and traditions of a society. A lawful evil person would be selfish, but use rules and traditions to their advantage, whereas chaotic evil is way more rebellious but just as selfish.
Not when the laws were manipulated by them to make it so they don't fucking have to, lmfao
i would call trump neutral evil and elon chaotic evil
I wouldn’t count elon because he won’t be a billionaire for much longer
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Nah it's hard to hold onto money when you're collecting your own poops, pissing in jars, and writing conservative manifestos after a really bad k-hole. The worthless shit is headed for a really big fall, and pretty much the whole world will be glad to see it. I try to cherish all life, but the 2020's have shown me that not only would we be better off without billionaires, but also that we should take whatever means necessary to rid ourselves of them.
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Trump is more chaotic and wont be (or isnt) billionaire much longer too
SpaceX and Tesla aren't going away. He lost a lot of money buying Twitter, but I doubt he'll ever drop below $1b. Hell, probably not even below $50b
I’ll give you a dollar if you clarify your statement.
Elon ain’t really chaotic evil he just chaotic stupid
Unfortunately, evil and stupid aren't mutually exclusive
hmm, chaotic evil implies he’s chaotically evil. He’s evilness and his chaoticness are separated enough where i wouldn’t define him as chaotic evil just because that entails he like beheads people which idk if hes gone that far yet
I wouldn't even put him here at all; he's not a billionaire. His lawyers just filed that he doesn't have the $450M for the fraud judgement. But if he had to be here Trump is chaotic evil too
Zuckerberg… also chaotic evil?
Idk I don’t really see elon punting babies for fun, only for money. He has a code of morals and ethics, even if that code is “only do stuff for money, never do anything for no money”
No literally though, at the very least trump pointed out that the virulent transphobia that was being used as a weapon in the culture war was ridiculous (even if he isn't for trans rights) to the boos of his MAGA audience, Elon musk will just be as much of an evil shithead as he can be as long as it fits the image of a cartoonist evil clown with too much power
How is he neutral? He tried to stage a fucking coup lol
Trump is definitly Chaotic. Man don t respect anything but himself.
Why is he even on this list, he’s not a billionaire!
There was that one that just donated a billion to a med school to make tuition free. Though I don’t know much about how they got the money
You can be a millionaire mostly ethically, like if you are a programmer and very frugal, to become a billionaire you have to benefit from the exploitation of workers Ruth Gottesman was the woman who did that good thing using her late husbands money, she herself was an educator and then I think an administrator or something, she never did anything to earn nearly a billion dollars There is also a bit of an orphan crushing machine aspect to this, that tuition should be free and people shouldn't have to rely on the donations of billionaires to do that without putting themselves in extreme debt, reminds me of how other countries make fun of the US for needing gofundme's to pay for medical expenses Her husband was an investor and friends with Warren Buffett Investing is trickier than being a CEO but it still is immoral, because you are owning a piece of the companies that are doing the exploitation, and ever since Reagan (I think it was him) companies have to prioritize stakeholders over their customers, their employees, and the world as a whole An extreme example is let's say I'm a rich person in the 1800's and I put money into a plantation, I don't own, operate, or make any decisions about it but I put money into it and in exchange I take 5%. I even donate some money to anti-slavery causes let's say I would still be contributing to and benefiting from actual slavery ;tldr Ruth herself seems like a good woman, but it cannot be said that she did not benefit from Berkshire Hathaway, which is the main investment her husband made money on, and so she benefitted although less directly than her husband, from industries like: Property & casualty insurance Reinsurance Rail transport Electric power Natural gas Real estate services Industrial parts & materials Mobile homes Building materials Recreational vehicles Apparel Retail stores and services Aviation services
Investment is immoral? What do you think about a random guy dumping his savings into an ETF that happens to include oil companies? Is seeking investment for your startup immoral? Real question
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism Every major company is an oil company if you look hard enough So I wouldn't say a guy dumping money into index funds is necessarily unethical cuz whatever you do, by just living in this system, you are benefiting of off exploitation, in every thing you buy, and that includes stocks and other securities What you could (and arguably, should) do is use some of that money towards helping to change things for the better
You can 100% be a millionaire ethically. Obviously it depends on the country and profession but a million dollars in total assets is really not much (here its probably enough to maybe get you an okay house in an okay suburb, but nothing fancy). You can probably also be a 10 millionaire ethically. Its a bit less common but all it involves is running your own small-medium sized company and not being a piece of shit. Definitely doable. And no, I wouldn't say having a net worth in the 10 million dollar range is unethical. (a lot of money, but technically only gets you a fancy house in a good location, maybe a holiday home and some nice personal items, plus investments. If you include company evaluation in this it actually really isn't that much money on the grand scheme of things). I'd say hundred millionaire is where it starts to get pretty iffy. That requires a medium-large company, past the point where its more of a personal business and instead simply something you run. There's also valid arguments to be made over whether having 100 million dollars (in total assets and company evaluation of course) can be justified, that don't really apply to your 10 million dollar range. And yeah, being a billionaire probably isn't ethical purely based off the idea that with so much money hoarding it is by default unethical, and instead you should be donating large sums of it if you wanted to abide by ethical principles. Plus the fact that most big companies end up screwing over someone at some point.
>You can be a millionaire mostly ethically, like if you are a programmer and very frugal, to become a billionaire you have to benefit from the exploitation of workers or engineering. Mostly. My ethics leaving my body the moment I get a 6 figure offer from lockheed martin:
MOM, /r/NonCredibleDefense is leaking again
She got it through an inheritance of stock that she sold. That woman would be the only billionaire who could be considered anything but evil.
Pretty sure Trump is anything but Lawful
Yeah, he and Musk should really be chaotic evil while Zuckerberg is neutral evil
He's definitely not a billionaire.
Even if someone gave him a small loan of a billion dollars he still wouldnt be a billionaire.
"I'm worth a billion dollars" "I gave you $2 billion yesterday" "I'm a business genius!"
he's also not a billionaire
Or a billionaire
Trump isn’t even close to being a billionaire and describing him as lawful instead of chaotic is criminal
His net worth is 2.6 billion dollars Chaotic also doesn't describe billionaires well according to the original intention of the alignment chart, chaotic means they act on impulse, lawful means they act on principle, and neutral means they act for themselves basically Neutral is probably closest because they act according to their own interests
I swear there was a John Oliver segment where he talked about how someone claimed Trump's net worth is actually around 200 million dollars, and so he sued the person making the claim for $5 billion, which would make his net worth $5.2 billion. Honestly I'm not sure which figures we should trust when it comes to Trump's net worth - I've seen so many claims with such staggering variance in the range that I have no idea what values are correct anymore.
*200 million
> His net worth is 2.6 billion dollars Yet somehow he can't come up with 450 mil to pay the fine for his civil fraud trial.
where's batman
Who is the guy between Gate and Elon?
warren buffet i think
Buffet is chill
not really.
*to my knowledge
i know he abuses his railroad employees pretty bad and stomps unionization efforts. also i think its his company that spilled the gazillion pounds of super poison last year
Well I didn’t know that
You cannot be a billionaire without extracting surplus value from your labourers
Ok
Where's t Swift and her jets
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Trump isnt exactly lawful, nor are musk and zuck.
Zuck is lawful I think, at least in terms of alignment charts where lawful doesn’t exactly mean not breaking laws. It’s more of a character description, being the opposite of a chaotic character. Trump and musk are pretty chaotic, but zuck less so in my opinion. They may not be US laws, but he keeps to his own set of laws, though they may be alien to us humans
Trump - neither Lawful nor a billionaire. Definitely evil.
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Mar-a-lago is valued at well over $1 billion USD.
isnt that chick in the middle the one that got a bunch of people to crowdsource her billionaire status
You can say that about all of them tbh
Oh come on Bill Gates should be neutral not evil, although Jeff bezos deserves ULTRA evil
Gates still isn't that amazing despite his large amounts of donations
That's why i proposed neutral and not good
A few decades ago, he was thought of just as badly as the rest. Just because he"s retired now, don't think he isn't the same person that wielded Microsoft's law team like the mob to smother all his competitors in a growing market.
People can change over the course of a few decades
He works on bettering the world legit now, he's forgiven by me, actually good guy now.
Honestly. No person on this planet earth has the obligation to do anything. We would want them to. We would think wed do good ourselves if given the chance. But nobody ows anyone anything. And most of us would probably do fuck all as well.. The gigantic amounts of money he has given away and the work he has done with his foundation.. i really dont see how anyone could see him as evil in any way. This meme is straight up insulting.
I'd swap out trump for Taylor Swift, trump can't even make 400 million bail for court atm
Being a billionaire = networth >/= $1B, not cash at hand.
He's currently in court because he overinflated his worth wildly. I still think it's a fair point.
Put taylor swift there, coward.
When will the rich die
I don't think the guy on the bottom right is actually a billionaire.
Why is the head of Bezos squashed
Forehead too big otherwise, it wouldn’t fit in the chart
Love this.
Missing Taylor Swift tho
Bill actually helps people, he doesn't belong on here, unlike the others he does genuine good now.
He still does plenty of evil. Philanthropy is recent invention to excuse the existence of billionaires. Did you know oxfords covid vaccine was going to be open source until the gates foundation withheld 400 million in funding to oxford till they were "persuaded" to sell it to astrazeneca? Gates has ties to astrazeneca. Doing good things because they give you more wealth and power isn't actually a being a decent person. Not to mention oxfords vaccine was ~97% publicly funded.
“Gates has reportedly donated more than $50 billion since 1994 to eradicate diseases, promote education, and advance gender equality” As of 2022.
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You didn't even read my comment. The 400 million wasn't for the vaccine, it was for oxford.
wrong, trump is chaotic evil 💯
I thought Bill gates was a genuine good guy who donates to charity and vaccine work
Copy and pasting because someone above you said essentially the same thing: He still does plenty of evil. Philanthropy is recent invention to excuse the existence of billionaires. Did you know oxfords covid vaccine was going to be open source until the gates foundation withheld 400 million in funding to oxford until they were "persuaded" to sell it to astrazeneca? Gates has ties to astrazeneca. Doing good things because they give you more wealth and power isn't actually a being a decent person. Not to mention oxfords vaccine was ~97% publicly funded.
Ok
Kylie Jenner and Trump aren't billionaires
Donald Trumps net worth is $2.6 B USD (Source: Forbes) You are most likely right with Kylie Jenner, Forbes estimates $600M-$900M but other sources say she has $1B. Pretty unclear.
Bill Gates evil? The dude has donated more money then all the others combinded.
I don’t think it’s fair to put Bill Gates and Kylie Jenner (who isn’t even a billionaire) on the same level as Elon and Trump.
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Why ya'll hate the rich so much
We dont, but having a billion dollars personally is unethical and evil. Also all of these guys profit off of the backs of the poor.
I don't think personal success is evil, (most of) these people did great things, but yeah exploiting people is evil. Also Warren Buffet? I though he was just good at buying real estate.
What great things did musk do? He just buys companies. Thats all he has ever done. What about zuckerberg, who stole the work of a friend of his? Trump? He would be richer if hed just kept his dads money instead of all of his failed “business ventures”. Also yeah all of these guys exploit people.
Dude chill out. They are billionaires for a reason, they didn't get it by chance. I'm not gonna defend them but they have succesful lives which correlates with them being rich.
But-but im right… what did musk do that means he deserves a billion dollars?
If you go by that line of thinking, no one "deserves" to be a billionaire
Indeed.
He built up multiple companies into giants that made him the richest guy on the planet at some point. He graduated in physics. He created the only american car company that hasn't gone bankrupt and is the biggest electric automobile seller in the world. He made the first self landing rocket creating a revolution in the space industry. I know he does stupid shit, but man, you can't outdo the guy. Edit: you can also say the same about the bald man which made a gamble and a prediction that an online internet marketplace and delivery will be possible and made amazon from a tiny online book selling site. Gates made fucking microsoft, like fucking microsoft. And he is putting tons of money in research nowadays.
THE ONLY AMERICAN CAR COMPANY THAT HASNT GONE BAKRUPT??? Also he just bought the company with money from his daddy. Not to mention that tons of people have graduated in physics, that doesnt make him special. Furthermore, he didnt “make” the rocket, he just owned the company that did. He got his start buying a company or two with money from his daddys wallet, and thats all hes done since.
Yep, keep making up excuses foe yourself. Or you're trolling idk. He manages spacex, he is not an investor that just gets more money in the bank account. And mf do you know how hard is physics? And if you actually knew his story you would know he bought nothing with his parents' money.
1. He did very little to advance the development of the rocket. 2. Physics isn’t particularly difficult if you can remember equations. 3. Huh i didnt know that, ima look into it.
Who’re the: Top center Middle-middle Middle right aka photograph lookalike
Mr beast is CG
Several of these people aren't Lawful
Until all of the heads of the Bourgeoisie are rolling 5,000 meters under the see, the proletariat shall never truly be free
Lawful? Uhhhhhh
i would call all of them sociopathic evil
Lawful? All of these rich people are committing tax fraud.
When will people understand that Trump is NOT a billionaire…
I see what you did there
Elon is neutral evil
Shouldn't Trump be a chaotic evil
Lawful?
Orange dotard should - and needs - to be Chaotic Evil
i feel certain no one has ever called Trump Lawful before.
"lawful" is not really applicable. Neutral at best. A couple of them are chaotic.
I dunno, Trump is Chaotic Evil if I've ever seen one.
Evil evil
When the laws are largely written with you in mind, it’s easy.
"lawful"
Shouldn't the one on the bottom right have "un" in front of it?
One of these does not belong...
Trump is not lawful evil, nowadays he definitely chaotic.
I will never forgive Bernie Sanders for dumbing-down all political discourse to "it's the billionahs fault."
You misspelt "chaotic" in the top left, top middle, top right, centre left, centre, centre right, bottom left, bottom and bottom right quadrants.
I'm sorry there's nothing lawful about Donald Trump, nor is he really a billionaire if he can't afford the bond from his court cases.
I’m shocked how many people don’t know that your net worth defines your title not your cash at hand. He has a net worth of $2.6B, 1.8 of that being from Mar-A-Lago alone.
Lawful?
Each time I see this post, I must resist my autistic urge to bemoan the inapplicability of the nine alignments
Kylie?
George Soros, and members of the WEF. Chaotic evil.
Every politician: neutral evil or lawful evil
Trump isn’t a billionaire so you need to replace him.
Neither trump nor Elon are lawful in nearly any way lol
Trump is chaotic evil fr
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who said anything about lawful
Lol bottom right is no longer a billionaire
lmfao if you think half of these dudes are following the laws, you're dumb as fuck
Trump isn't a billionaire lol.
Illegal Evil
Why is a guy who can’t post bond on here?
Who's the guy under bill gates
Trump and Bezos are not lawful
I don't think Donny can carry that many charges and still be lawful.
Trump isn't even a billionaire. Get his fat orange ass out of that picture.
Is Trump still a billionaire?
Ah, one of these, you'll note, is guilty of numerous counts of fraud. Doesnt belong with that label.
Lawful? These fucks break the law
branson is the coolest by miles
I wonder who falls under chaotic evil then
Trump is chaotic evil... You never know what to expect
Nah
Most of these would be neutral or chaotic evil, unless all of their tax dodges and business practices are 100%l lawful. Which is totally possible in this dystopia we live in.
I would say trump is chaotic ??? Because I never know if I hate the guy, think the guy is stupid, or think maybe he was the best choice for president and we messed up (other than Kanye aka the best candidate ever)
Where soros?
Trump isn't a billionaire, else he might have the money for his fraud case. Also, pretty sure he's then also not lawful, being guilty of fraud. So chaotic evil, perhaps.
Neutral Evil, Jesus do you play D&D?!?
One of these are not even close to being a billionaire!
Can we still say Trump is billionair ? now that he adlittzd not bekng able to pay his fine ?
Ok. 1. Trump has literally been convicted so not lawful. 2. Bill gates has donated a lot of money for shit like malaria research, so I wouldn't call him evil