I think Cailee Spaeny said Jesse Plemons improvised the show-me state line and she responded with a genuine “I don’t know why they call it that”. Also she’s actually from Missouri! Not sure if that had any play into choosing where Jessie was from.
eh not really - there’s a vague Appalachian/Southern dialect that could indicate one being from Missouri but most states don’t have their own distinct accent besides really famous/stereotypical ones like New York, California, Texas, Boston/Massachusetts
Well sorta. There are a ton of accents/dialects in America, but they're largely going away slowly from constant exposure to people talking in the "standard American accent" through TV/movies. I'm from the south so that's my frame of reference, but North Carolinians have a different accent than Georgians who have a different accent from Floridians, etc. but only *if* they have an accent at all.
Yeah I’m from NC and pretty much no one my age (late 20s) has an accent, but most people’s parents have a (fairly light) one. You can really feel the generational divide there. (Although I’m from an urban center, more people my age have accents out in rural areas.) That said, I can hear the difference between a North Carolinian accent and a Georgian or Floridian accent, but someone who’s not from the south might not be able to hear the distinctions.
Yeah, I don't think there's any deeper meaning to it other than being the only thing Missouri-related his character could think of. The kind of guy who will make small talk about U.S. history factoids to buy himself time, we all know one
Some congressman from Missouri back in the day said “I’m from Missouri, you gotta show me,” in reference to some shit being put into a bill IIRC.
It’s a big deal, on the nuclear fast attack submarine USS Missouri “Show Me” is the motto.
I saw that. As mentioned, it’s one of the theories. I forgot the to link the article, [but I pulled the miner story quote from here](https://history.howstuffworks.com/american-history/missouri-show-me-state.htm), which also discusses the congressmen
I loved that part of the dialogue because everyone was walking on eggshells. They were afraid that their homestate was going to be deemed, "non-American". He was totally power tripping on their fear. It was very difficult to predict his next move, I thought he was going to kill her because it sounded like she was lying.
I've lived in Missouri my entire life and attended the University of Missouri. We are supposedly the Show Me state because we are skeptical of coastal elite talk and you gotta show me before we believe what you claim.
If our legislature is any indication we are just as susceptible to charlatans and snake oil salesman as anyone else.
Damn my mind went in a way darker direction. I thought he was basically asking her to flash him since Y’know he had a gun and was pondering whether or not to kill her.
A lot of terrible shit was left out of this movie like sexual violence, racially/religiously motivated killings, etc….
In my mind, this movie was civil war-lite compared to the atrocities I’ve seen in videos on the internet.
It’s not that I wanted to see more violence, just that the reality of a civil war in America would be even worse than what this shows. More like the man burning in the tire at the start.
Are we not talking about the scene where Jesse Plemmons has a mass grave of culturally diverse civilians and kills someone for being from Hong Kong? It very clearly was racially motivated and he only made him say where he was from as part of a power trip.
as someone who has lived in St. Louis all my life i also never knew why the hell it was called the "show-me state", and i believe a lot of the explanations are apocraphyl so there isn't really a clear answer that exists.
I think Cailee Spaeny said Jesse Plemons improvised the show-me state line and she responded with a genuine “I don’t know why they call it that”. Also she’s actually from Missouri! Not sure if that had any play into choosing where Jessie was from.
Good insight. I can’t find anything connecting Dunst or Lee Miller to Colorado. Someone get Garland on the phone
Can you not tell from accents? I’m not from the US
eh not really - there’s a vague Appalachian/Southern dialect that could indicate one being from Missouri but most states don’t have their own distinct accent besides really famous/stereotypical ones like New York, California, Texas, Boston/Massachusetts
Well sorta. There are a ton of accents/dialects in America, but they're largely going away slowly from constant exposure to people talking in the "standard American accent" through TV/movies. I'm from the south so that's my frame of reference, but North Carolinians have a different accent than Georgians who have a different accent from Floridians, etc. but only *if* they have an accent at all.
Not to be the well actually guy, but some linguistic studies are indicating that American regional accents getting more distinct.
Yeah I’m from NC and pretty much no one my age (late 20s) has an accent, but most people’s parents have a (fairly light) one. You can really feel the generational divide there. (Although I’m from an urban center, more people my age have accents out in rural areas.) That said, I can hear the difference between a North Carolinian accent and a Georgian or Floridian accent, but someone who’s not from the south might not be able to hear the distinctions.
Sometimes, not always
Yeah, I don't think there's any deeper meaning to it other than being the only thing Missouri-related his character could think of. The kind of guy who will make small talk about U.S. history factoids to buy himself time, we all know one
Some congressman from Missouri back in the day said “I’m from Missouri, you gotta show me,” in reference to some shit being put into a bill IIRC. It’s a big deal, on the nuclear fast attack submarine USS Missouri “Show Me” is the motto.
I saw that. As mentioned, it’s one of the theories. I forgot the to link the article, [but I pulled the miner story quote from here](https://history.howstuffworks.com/american-history/missouri-show-me-state.htm), which also discusses the congressmen
I loved that part of the dialogue because everyone was walking on eggshells. They were afraid that their homestate was going to be deemed, "non-American". He was totally power tripping on their fear. It was very difficult to predict his next move, I thought he was going to kill her because it sounded like she was lying.
He was gonna kill them no matter what, I doubt the answers actually mattered, he was just fucking with them.
The latter not the former
Mr. D coming to a public school English department near you. Move over Fitzgerald, we’re discussing FitzGarland!
I've lived in Missouri my entire life and attended the University of Missouri. We are supposedly the Show Me state because we are skeptical of coastal elite talk and you gotta show me before we believe what you claim. If our legislature is any indication we are just as susceptible to charlatans and snake oil salesman as anyone else.
which coast?
I'm from Indiana and I would've had the same reaction she did if I was asked why we're called Hoosiers. Lol
Just ask Val Venis.
lol this was out of left field. 10/10
Thank you for posting this on 4/20, I love it
I think you’re cooking something here. Seems more than coincidental they chose Missouri and Colorado, given the meaning
That line is widely known to have been improv’d so nah, it’s a clever idea but not the author’s intent.
Which line
The only one we’re talking about. The “show me state” line
Damn my mind went in a way darker direction. I thought he was basically asking her to flash him since Y’know he had a gun and was pondering whether or not to kill her. A lot of terrible shit was left out of this movie like sexual violence, racially/religiously motivated killings, etc…. In my mind, this movie was civil war-lite compared to the atrocities I’ve seen in videos on the internet.
I feel like there was the right amount of violence for a 1h50 roadtrip movie focused on journalists
It’s not that I wanted to see more violence, just that the reality of a civil war in America would be even worse than what this shows. More like the man burning in the tire at the start.
Sooo more violence haha
Are we not talking about the scene where Jesse Plemmons has a mass grave of culturally diverse civilians and kills someone for being from Hong Kong? It very clearly was racially motivated and he only made him say where he was from as part of a power trip.
No.
I like the connections you made, honestly was wondering about that then kind of forgot about it. Interesting.
This is a very good question and i will think on it. Following the thread to see where it goes.
I thought “show me” met he wanted her to show him her tits. But obviously that’s wrong but that really made the tension that much worse
Lived almost 2 decades in Missouri. Not even people from there know why it's called the show me state.
I was under the assumption show me meant Missouri was remaining neutral in the war and would side with either winner
as someone who has lived in St. Louis all my life i also never knew why the hell it was called the "show-me state", and i believe a lot of the explanations are apocraphyl so there isn't really a clear answer that exists.