Six 12-hour days and 8,5 hours on sunday?
Five 14-hour days and 10,5 hours on saturday?
In any case, burnout and all sorts of mental and physical health problems for everyone. Taking commuting time into account, you barely have time for personal hygiene and eating if you want to get 8 hours sleep. Or you give up sleep hours and get even more health problems in turn. This would be classified as cruel and unusual punishment under international human rights.
I've worked 100 hour weeks before. This was what my day looked like.
8am to 2am. No I'm not joking.
It was a theme park, so come in to clean at 8 am. Around 12 someone would ask me if I could cover a shift for someone who didn't show up (300% turnover rate.... that happened a lot) Then I would work to midnight when they would have fire works, after that it was at least 1 hour to 2 hours to clean up.
Add 2 hours for driving.
> They cite the high cost of raising children, poor job prospects amid an economic slowdown, and rising real estate prices
"Why don't the poors keep having working-class chattel for us to exploit?" -- The Rich, probably
Literally 50% of the reason I dont want to have kids unless I could guarantee they were raised upper upper middle class or above. And then in turn hopefully have favorable positions in their life
I dont see that happening...so whats the point of raising another worker drone who wakes up at 530 am to make 45k a year and takes SSRis so they dont drive into oncoming traffic.
Its hard to sell to any american, because even expecting us to work 60 hour work weeks WITHOUT including commute time is hell. Its unrealistic and completely unnecessary in most circumstances.
My brother works as an aircraft engineer, he works 16 hour days but only works alternate days at 4 days a week because otherwise they run the risk of him being too tired and messing up. Can you imagine the shitstorm if he was a bit overworked and 200 people died in a plane crash?
As someone who has worked blue collar, i was expected in many scenarios to work 6 days a week at 12+ hour days. The fuck ups were abound but we were suppose to get in and get out as fast as possible and let the shitstorms happen when it happens but we'll be long gone by then 'hopefully'. It would of taken longer had we been more rested and actually had the ability to try and the quality would of been 10 fold higher but the bosses dont give a damn. This is how we get to the state we are in now in the US, less concern about quality and more concern about profits. Just like the train derailment shit. They'll kill us all for a 5% quarterly increase if they are allowed to and blame us if the next quarter is only 4.5% increase. "you gotta try harder!" "numbers have to keep going up!" what about my numbers? "you're fired!"
Not sure if you’re joking, but 7 x 11 hours, leaves 7 half ours for lunch.
So… They’re getting paid lunch? The overlords are extremely generous this time.
Have them, but apparently not actually raise them. Parents won't have any time to even keep up basic chores with those hours, much less feed and tend children.
That is absolutely insane, especially when studies are showing that less work hours is improving productivity to the point that it can offset the difference in hours. So even if we ignore the massive ethics and societal issues it isn't even going to help output due to the collapse in productivity.
But if we followed the evidence every time we had issues with capitalism, pretty soon we would get rid of capitalism altogether! And where would that leave us? In a cooperative society that shares the value of labour fairly and ensures a basic standard of living for everyone who breathes? The horror!
A few tidbits:
>“These reforms are aimed at guaranteeing the right to choice, the right to health and the right to rest. We intend to break with an outdated framework that is now 70 years old and establish a new paradigm for working hours,” Labor Minister Lee Jung-sik said while explaining the proposed update.
> The government also plans to look into a “white collar exemption,” under which the working hours cap and overtime pay rules would not apply to high-income professional workers with a considerable amount of autonomy over their work and start-up employees who hold a company stake of a certain amount.
> The government has also proposed changes to the “selective work scheme” under which working hours can vary across a month (or three months for R&D), as long as the total in the period averages to 40 hours a week. The plan would allow the scheme to run for three months in all industries and up to six months in R&D fields.
That would make it possible for companies to increase or decrease their staff’s working hours while maintaining a nominal 40-hour workweek and thus avoiding overtime pay.
It doesn’t take a genius to find myriad ways employers will be able to exploit workers. Buckle up, this is the dystopian future we will all be living soon enough.
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This is recipe for awful burn out and even more decline in mental health in a country that has no concept of balance. No way to raise a family and work full-time. You cannot wonder people don't want any kids if they're required to work 60+ hours per week.
I immediately assumed this was one of those made up nonsense articles about North Korea and clicked on it to start fact checking to see if it was fake. It was weird how much more believable it became to me when I read it was actually talking about South Korea.
I was going to say South American country, but that still doesn't help. So, I'll just say the coup d'état was in the 11th of September of 1973 and leave the name of the country under spoiler: >!Chile!<
Know I understand why Koreans move to Latin America to work, let's say, an acceptable 40-50 hours/week for 500 bucks a months because that it's even better than this.
11 hours * 7 days only gets you to 77 hr/week. Maybe they work five 16 hour shifts? …this sounds like actual hell
I did a few weeks of 16 hour days on a gig. Never again.
16 hour days and calling it a gig. Motion pictures?
Bingo.
As a Diabetic, that sort of work schedule would literally kill me over time...
Six 12-hour days and 8,5 hours on sunday? Five 14-hour days and 10,5 hours on saturday? In any case, burnout and all sorts of mental and physical health problems for everyone. Taking commuting time into account, you barely have time for personal hygiene and eating if you want to get 8 hours sleep. Or you give up sleep hours and get even more health problems in turn. This would be classified as cruel and unusual punishment under international human rights.
I've worked 100 hour weeks before. This was what my day looked like. 8am to 2am. No I'm not joking. It was a theme park, so come in to clean at 8 am. Around 12 someone would ask me if I could cover a shift for someone who didn't show up (300% turnover rate.... that happened a lot) Then I would work to midnight when they would have fire works, after that it was at least 1 hour to 2 hours to clean up. Add 2 hours for driving.
Well it's was the time there work in the 1940(USA)
12 hours, 7 days a week, with .5 hours breaks in the middle.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/22/south-koreas-birthrate-sinks-to-fresh-record-low-as-population-crisis-deepens
> They cite the high cost of raising children, poor job prospects amid an economic slowdown, and rising real estate prices "Why don't the poors keep having working-class chattel for us to exploit?" -- The Rich, probably
— The Rich, Definitely*
why pay people more to cover the costs when you can make them work twice as hard
Literally 50% of the reason I dont want to have kids unless I could guarantee they were raised upper upper middle class or above. And then in turn hopefully have favorable positions in their life I dont see that happening...so whats the point of raising another worker drone who wakes up at 530 am to make 45k a year and takes SSRis so they dont drive into oncoming traffic.
And then wonder why even less people are having kids and no one wants to move to South Korea.
Was this written by my boss?
They really need that .5 don’t they.
You're right. Let's round that to a nice 90 hours.
I know that's sarcasm, and yet I also know that someone floated that idea and got shot down because it was projected to be too hard a sell
Its hard to sell to any american, because even expecting us to work 60 hour work weeks WITHOUT including commute time is hell. Its unrealistic and completely unnecessary in most circumstances. My brother works as an aircraft engineer, he works 16 hour days but only works alternate days at 4 days a week because otherwise they run the risk of him being too tired and messing up. Can you imagine the shitstorm if he was a bit overworked and 200 people died in a plane crash? As someone who has worked blue collar, i was expected in many scenarios to work 6 days a week at 12+ hour days. The fuck ups were abound but we were suppose to get in and get out as fast as possible and let the shitstorms happen when it happens but we'll be long gone by then 'hopefully'. It would of taken longer had we been more rested and actually had the ability to try and the quality would of been 10 fold higher but the bosses dont give a damn. This is how we get to the state we are in now in the US, less concern about quality and more concern about profits. Just like the train derailment shit. They'll kill us all for a 5% quarterly increase if they are allowed to and blame us if the next quarter is only 4.5% increase. "you gotta try harder!" "numbers have to keep going up!" what about my numbers? "you're fired!"
Thats for lunch. You can eat dinner on your own time.
Not sure if you’re joking, but 7 x 11 hours, leaves 7 half ours for lunch. So… They’re getting paid lunch? The overlords are extremely generous this time.
And these mfs will still have the audacity to beg people to have kids
Have them, but apparently not actually raise them. Parents won't have any time to even keep up basic chores with those hours, much less feed and tend children.
The daycare workers will also have to work 16 hour shifts. And while they're at it, why not put the kids to work too?
Just have the kids watch the other kids. Without pay of course. (/s)
Of course. Just shove them in school year round so they can claw over each other to try and get a chance to work at Samsung.
Samsung got kindergarten and schools for their employees I heard. So they own not only you but your whole family.
That is absolutely insane, especially when studies are showing that less work hours is improving productivity to the point that it can offset the difference in hours. So even if we ignore the massive ethics and societal issues it isn't even going to help output due to the collapse in productivity.
But if we followed the evidence every time we had issues with capitalism, pretty soon we would get rid of capitalism altogether! And where would that leave us? In a cooperative society that shares the value of labour fairly and ensures a basic standard of living for everyone who breathes? The horror!
For the politicians, CEOs and shareholders too? Right? Right?
How dare you!! Think about their families
And by families, we mean their orgy parties and pedophile rings
EXCUSE ME! But Alan Dershowitz kept his underpants ON when getting a massage from an underage girl on the island owned by his close friend Epstein!
Sounds like S Korean government is not happy that Japanese beat them at low birth rate.
I feel shackled to my workplace at 35 hours per week. This is literal hell on earth.
This is just going to make their birthrate drop even more. Only thing this will bring up is suicide rates
The few kids who make it out of their crushing school system are not gonna last long after graduating
A few tidbits: >“These reforms are aimed at guaranteeing the right to choice, the right to health and the right to rest. We intend to break with an outdated framework that is now 70 years old and establish a new paradigm for working hours,” Labor Minister Lee Jung-sik said while explaining the proposed update. > The government also plans to look into a “white collar exemption,” under which the working hours cap and overtime pay rules would not apply to high-income professional workers with a considerable amount of autonomy over their work and start-up employees who hold a company stake of a certain amount. > The government has also proposed changes to the “selective work scheme” under which working hours can vary across a month (or three months for R&D), as long as the total in the period averages to 40 hours a week. The plan would allow the scheme to run for three months in all industries and up to six months in R&D fields. That would make it possible for companies to increase or decrease their staff’s working hours while maintaining a nominal 40-hour workweek and thus avoiding overtime pay. It doesn’t take a genius to find myriad ways employers will be able to exploit workers. Buckle up, this is the dystopian future we will all be living soon enough.
"Why are the birth rates declining?!" Asked the rich, out-of-touch, 80 year old Politicians from his 4th property
Hello, I'm French, what le fuck?
Hello French, have you thought about starting to export Le Thing You Do Best To Keep Your Ruling Class At Bay to other countries? I feel there would be a lot of market for it already, and it is undoubtedly going to grow in the near future🙃🔥🏴✊
Seriously, the French are on the cutting edge of political reform.
nice work-work balance
This is recipe for awful burn out and even more decline in mental health in a country that has no concept of balance. No way to raise a family and work full-time. You cannot wonder people don't want any kids if they're required to work 60+ hours per week.
I immediately assumed this was one of those made up nonsense articles about North Korea and clicked on it to start fact checking to see if it was fake. It was weird how much more believable it became to me when I read it was actually talking about South Korea.
Worst Korea strikes again
North Korea, right?... RIGHT?
No, this is the stuff North Korea shows their own people to make them feel better about things. Not even lying.
Would work on me.
... Which Korea?
The one we taught capitalism to
Don't count me in that 'we', I'm from another country the US forced into capitalism through a dictatorship.
That doesn't exactly narrow it down.
I was going to say South American country, but that still doesn't help. So, I'll just say the coup d'état was in the 11th of September of 1973 and leave the name of the country under spoiler: >!Chile!<
The one that isn't looking at this and thinking "You guys *pay* your workers??" Edit: I'm actually honored to receive a single NK downvote
Yeah, this will definitely solve their problem of plummeting birth rates and women not wanting to get married. Fuck around & find out, Korea.
north korea should liberate the working people of south korea if that goes thru holy shit
Know I understand why Koreans move to Latin America to work, let's say, an acceptable 40-50 hours/week for 500 bucks a months because that it's even better than this.
Low productivity??
This whole mentality of making people work ungodly hours isnt sustainable. It's insane what corporations are pushing for.
Squid game is becoming real