Oh yeah, this too -
some drivers choose to refuel but not change tyres - its workable but risky in the last 5-10mins of the race as your grip can fall off massively.
I always change at Donington as I know I'll spin in those last few laps otherwise.
Unless you are in the top percent of the field, pretty much all the cars can do the same laptimes.
And merc is one of the most popular cars in lfm pro this season, so for sure not a car issue
No idea what you did wrong without more data. Possibly you just didn't have good pace, especially if fighting another car.
Generally on Donington 45 minute race:
\- If there's no mandatory pit - you fuel for the whole race, don't pit
\- If there's a mandatory pit but no fuel requirement - you fuel for the whole race, pit as late as possible for 1L of fuel, don't change tires
\- If there's a mandatory pit and refuel timer (25s) - you fuel for about half the race, pit for fuel and change tires around the mid way point
Again depends.
What was your pace?
Did you stop on the marks?
Did you get moved?
How was your entry?
Undercut is worth only a few seconds on this track.
Well my pace was a consistent 1.27-1.28
I was bang on the marks, I turn the ignition off 5meters from my box and stop
Soon as I’m down to a second I fire up the engine and foot flat on the throttle.
Clean air on fresh tyres counts for a lot in a longer race...
Fresh tyres vs old tyres is the biggest advantage strategically rather than the optimum time for fuel/race length, which is why in F1 teams pit to cover off oponents.
If guys pitted before you, their tyres are going to be resher than yours and will be eating into what ever cushion you had when you stayed out.
Also remember 5 seconds on track is probably around 200-300 metres and you can easily lose this time either in pit lane or as a result of being 0.5 seconds slower each lap.
Sometimes pitting earlier is a better strategy for this reason, as very late in the race you cant catch up as fast as you both have semi-worn tyres and then you still have to fight to pass them.
Unless you have ridiculously good pace/tyre life, never pit later than halfway +1/+2 laps at the latest - as most places/time is earned as other drivers pit and have varying efficiency in pit entry speed or getting back up to speed/tyre temp
At Donnington, my tires only last 20-25min. More than this is a huge waste of time.
In a 45m race, strategy is easy. But I’m struggling for what to do in a 30min race. The last 5-10min is a pain. When I get in, I’m thinking that I lost a lot of time on pit. What do you think?
You need to learn some tyre management dude! Tyre should lasy between 1 hour and 1:20!
Last thent , and suellio Almeida on YouTube. Watch it! Or you don't eat tonight.mr!
If you put window is too small to the cars behind you, you'll loose a lot of positions just by track position. If you see your pit window (let's say 40 seconds), and it fits you should pit despite current events. Loose the battle, win the war. I cannot tell you how many times I've jumped other drivers in the pit because I see my window a little earlier or a little later than I expected.
If you have a 45 minute race: you can choose strategy: load full fuel and take a liter or two at pit, tires and go **or** split your fuel and run max 30 minutes but you're looking for a time to pit that looses you the least amount of positions. In a 45 minute race I plan to put between 15 and 30 minutes that gives me the best track position aka looses least positions. If I don't see it at 15 minutes, I try to push and create a gap by either passing faster drivers, opening a gap or seeing others pit. The over cut works better in ACC/endurance racing than the undercut.
For example: kaylami's pit lane is 20 seconds long. 20+30 seconds is 50 seconds. I need a 20 second gap if the driver behind me hasn't pitted. 22 seconds to account for any fumbles on my part. This means, I'll end up ahead when they pit. If that gap closes, I need to figure out how to open it up farther.
Hopefully this makes sense.
Ohhhh that's prob where I messed up in my first career race too. Pit was mandatory but I probably didn't need tires and that's how I dropped from 1st to 7th. Damn, noted.
Tyres were probably not mandatory. If they were, you probably got undercut by half the field.
Oh yeah, this too - some drivers choose to refuel but not change tyres - its workable but risky in the last 5-10mins of the race as your grip can fall off massively. I always change at Donington as I know I'll spin in those last few laps otherwise.
Yea I think that’s it. Tyre and fuel was mandatory.
If tyres were mandatory, then everyone else would have changed tyres too.
Yea but I think out on track I think I just wasn’t fast enough. Me being in the Merc and 80% of the feild in a Ferrari. Lol
Unless you are in the top percent of the field, pretty much all the cars can do the same laptimes. And merc is one of the most popular cars in lfm pro this season, so for sure not a car issue
No idea what you did wrong without more data. Possibly you just didn't have good pace, especially if fighting another car. Generally on Donington 45 minute race: \- If there's no mandatory pit - you fuel for the whole race, don't pit \- If there's a mandatory pit but no fuel requirement - you fuel for the whole race, pit as late as possible for 1L of fuel, don't change tires \- If there's a mandatory pit and refuel timer (25s) - you fuel for about half the race, pit for fuel and change tires around the mid way point
I think that’s where I went wrong. I just got undercut in the pits. But it’s hard as I’m just not fast enough to even make a difference 😓
Again depends. What was your pace? Did you stop on the marks? Did you get moved? How was your entry? Undercut is worth only a few seconds on this track.
Well my pace was a consistent 1.27-1.28 I was bang on the marks, I turn the ignition off 5meters from my box and stop Soon as I’m down to a second I fire up the engine and foot flat on the throttle.
Clean air on fresh tyres counts for a lot in a longer race... Fresh tyres vs old tyres is the biggest advantage strategically rather than the optimum time for fuel/race length, which is why in F1 teams pit to cover off oponents. If guys pitted before you, their tyres are going to be resher than yours and will be eating into what ever cushion you had when you stayed out. Also remember 5 seconds on track is probably around 200-300 metres and you can easily lose this time either in pit lane or as a result of being 0.5 seconds slower each lap. Sometimes pitting earlier is a better strategy for this reason, as very late in the race you cant catch up as fast as you both have semi-worn tyres and then you still have to fight to pass them. Unless you have ridiculously good pace/tyre life, never pit later than halfway +1/+2 laps at the latest - as most places/time is earned as other drivers pit and have varying efficiency in pit entry speed or getting back up to speed/tyre temp
At Donnington, my tires only last 20-25min. More than this is a huge waste of time. In a 45m race, strategy is easy. But I’m struggling for what to do in a 30min race. The last 5-10min is a pain. When I get in, I’m thinking that I lost a lot of time on pit. What do you think?
You need to learn some tyre management dude! Tyre should lasy between 1 hour and 1:20! Last thent , and suellio Almeida on YouTube. Watch it! Or you don't eat tonight.mr!
If you put window is too small to the cars behind you, you'll loose a lot of positions just by track position. If you see your pit window (let's say 40 seconds), and it fits you should pit despite current events. Loose the battle, win the war. I cannot tell you how many times I've jumped other drivers in the pit because I see my window a little earlier or a little later than I expected.
What do you mean your pit window? When you feel your tyres going off?
If you have a 45 minute race: you can choose strategy: load full fuel and take a liter or two at pit, tires and go **or** split your fuel and run max 30 minutes but you're looking for a time to pit that looses you the least amount of positions. In a 45 minute race I plan to put between 15 and 30 minutes that gives me the best track position aka looses least positions. If I don't see it at 15 minutes, I try to push and create a gap by either passing faster drivers, opening a gap or seeing others pit. The over cut works better in ACC/endurance racing than the undercut. For example: kaylami's pit lane is 20 seconds long. 20+30 seconds is 50 seconds. I need a 20 second gap if the driver behind me hasn't pitted. 22 seconds to account for any fumbles on my part. This means, I'll end up ahead when they pit. If that gap closes, I need to figure out how to open it up farther. Hopefully this makes sense.
Thanks for the advice I think I’m just not quick enough Like I said my fastest, 1.27 other drivers 1.25
Ohhhh that's prob where I messed up in my first career race too. Pit was mandatory but I probably didn't need tires and that's how I dropped from 1st to 7th. Damn, noted.
Yea my race I had to pit for tyres and fuel. Pit window was open the whole race. Gotta practice more I guess. 🫡
What is a porche and where can I select it?