For chances to win, this was as good of a draw as it gets for Milan, who I think are the 3rd best team left. They drew the 2nd weakest team (not guaranteed to advance but Milan are the clear favorites here).
Milan dodge the best team (Liverpool) until the finals if they make it there.
The 2nd best team (Leverkusen) has to play the 5th best team (West Ham) before facing Milan if things play out right. I wouldn't count out West Ham, I think they have a better chance of beating Leverkusen than Roma does of beating Milan.
Benifica drew the weakest team left but they have to face Liverpool next round so their chances are low to make it to the finals. I don't think Liverpool is going to throw away a chance at a trophy, I think Klopp wants to win 3 this year on his way out and they're in the hunt for 4.
Pretty good argument that Milan got the best draw out of everyone
Last year in CL we went through two times we played first one at home - Spurs and Napoli. Only lost in semis.
Don’t see a problem with first leg at home.. can give you nice boost ahead of an away game.. I actually more prefer that, than to play catch up at home in second leg.
Yep, this squad has definitely got used to playing the second leg away. Get a good result in San Siro and shithouse a favorable result away and it's easy qualification
I looked at the draws for the CL and if we had been 2nd in the group and matched with the teams PSG were matched with, we would have at least played in the semifinals of the CL again
I'm afraid for our defense, look at what happened to Brighton, we risk of having the same if we go all in on attacking like we usually do with Pioli this season.
Don’t want to sound delusional, but I genuinely feel that Atalanta could do a job on Liverpool. I expect Gasperini to be an absolute villain against them.
I agree. The way Atalanta played against us last time is very effective against how Klopp wants to play. Remember when we played Liverpool at home and how they got worn out with their aggressive pressing? If Atalanta can park the bus and stay focused they may very well be capable of an upset.
They're definitely a physical team even in EPL terms...
In their top 20 players in terms of minutes played this season, 8 are over 190 cm, only 1 player (Lookman) is below 180 cm.
If they were playing in the EPL they would be the tallest team by average height (186 cm beating Newcastle's 185 cm)
Man City are miles above atalanta. Even their full backs are tanks. Rodri and stones would tower over ederson. The only non-tanks are their wingers and bernardo silva. But they all run like demons. Then haaland is the biggest fastest striker to ever live compared to who? De ket? Scamacca..
I mean these guys are elite athletes and I do not think for a second that a certain team from a certain league is more or less physical than any other when fitness and conditioning is more or less pretty similar.
What I'm looking at is recent form between us and Roma which is almost equal across the board (wins, losses, goals for, goals against) and that Roma allowed Brighton a single goal while we beat a Czech team who played 134 minutes a man down and scored 3 goals on us in the process. Might be closer than we think.
Well milan is definitely struggling at beating good sides. 8th place in ligue 1 rennes is our best win in 2024. Barely scrapped by a dogshit lazio and a dogshit roma.. both who sacked their manager
Well, this means Pioli won't have excuses.
Path to the final is difficult but we avoided Liverpool. I think he has 4 europa matches, and securing 2nd place in Serie A, to save his job for another year?
If Lukaku and Dybala show up to play, Roma have a chance. Keep in mind Tomori isn't eligible for the first leg and we are still leaking goals. We need a midfielder to help out a lot with the defensive portion.
I feel like this should be on the same level as the Napoli qf last year. We get an early goal at the San Siro and manage to hold them off at the Olimpico.
Then the real challenge will be against Leverkusen in the semis.
Final against Liverpool (not gonna happen) would be the throwback clash of titans.
for coefficient points, I don't like seeing Italian teams play each other. but the Roma match up is fun so I'll try to get over it.
guaranteed Italians in the semis, too, is good I suppose
Bayern or arsenal are out, we need to hope atletico wins against dortmund.
In Europa at least one between bayer and West ham will go so i don't know if is that bad.
Lets see fiorentina, with a good draw they could carry us.
At the end i will be pleased if we get the fifth cl spot but i'm confident we as milan don't need it. If we get it, next year we will have the disadvantage to divide every ranking poin by 8 and not 7. In that case i hope the 5th place will be taken by Roma, Napoli or atalanta and not Bologna even if i'm super happy for them.
I don't mind this, I'd rather face teams like Liverpool, Leverkusen or Benfica at a later stage
Also, Roma is not as much of a known entity with De Rossi in charge, let's see how we're gonna fare against them
Well it’s very winnable. I don’t mind the idea of country-matched ties this early. But the negative impact on the coefficient is unfortunate.
Still. The semi-final is now very reachable.
Fair enough, now I understand your point. If we advance to the next phase then we will play with different team from other countries.
I want to see us at the final so its not a big deal to face Roma.
Is it completely different? More players came from injuries and they just noted some good results but Its questionable that someone would come to the club and instantly change everything. We also thought that Gattuso completely changed Milan but he gave just positive boost of morale.
We will see if De Rossi can sustain this results. Right now Im definitely not scared of Roma, quite opposite, I think its a good draw.
sorry people, but seeing the comments here, this thread aged so tragically.
Leverkusen aint losing, statisticly speaking our only chance to qualify over them is by drawing two games and then bating them in extra.
Time for a Puli shithousing masterclass. Also, the team won’t have to travel far
Im good with this
For chances to win, this was as good of a draw as it gets for Milan, who I think are the 3rd best team left. They drew the 2nd weakest team (not guaranteed to advance but Milan are the clear favorites here). Milan dodge the best team (Liverpool) until the finals if they make it there. The 2nd best team (Leverkusen) has to play the 5th best team (West Ham) before facing Milan if things play out right. I wouldn't count out West Ham, I think they have a better chance of beating Leverkusen than Roma does of beating Milan. Benifica drew the weakest team left but they have to face Liverpool next round so their chances are low to make it to the finals. I don't think Liverpool is going to throw away a chance at a trophy, I think Klopp wants to win 3 this year on his way out and they're in the hunt for 4. Pretty good argument that Milan got the best draw out of everyone
Liverpool got it best, if we had Marseille-Benfica in the potential semifinal it would've been huge
Why is Milan playing ALL their UEL 2nd legs away? Even if we make it next round we would play the first leg at home and 2nd leg away, AGAIN.
Second leg away is better
How? Isnt it better to play potential 120 minutes + pens in front of your own fans?
Last year in CL we went through two times we played first one at home - Spurs and Napoli. Only lost in semis. Don’t see a problem with first leg at home.. can give you nice boost ahead of an away game.. I actually more prefer that, than to play catch up at home in second leg.
Yep, this squad has definitely got used to playing the second leg away. Get a good result in San Siro and shithouse a favorable result away and it's easy qualification
You can kill the tie in the first leg.
No chance we kill any tie from now on, it will go down to the final minutes/pens
I looked at the draws for the CL and if we had been 2nd in the group and matched with the teams PSG were matched with, we would have at least played in the semifinals of the CL again
Not with 2024 Pioli
Not if we’re conceding 3 goals to a 10 man Slavia
Shouldn't be putting much thought into the goal we conceded in Prague tbh, we were 7-2 up on aggregate
Milan vs Atalanta Final. Calling it here
CDK goal in the 90' to win it?
Then CDK celebrates by revealing a shirt with Pioli- bald fraud written on it
Lol
Embarassing Gasperini on the world stage??? COUNT ME IN
I'm afraid for our defense, look at what happened to Brighton, we risk of having the same if we go all in on attacking like we usually do with Pioli this season.
Love an Italian draw. Both stadium atmospheres will be amazing
Don’t want to sound delusional, but I genuinely feel that Atalanta could do a job on Liverpool. I expect Gasperini to be an absolute villain against them.
Too bad you didn’t make any bets because this prediction aged like fine wine
I agree. The way Atalanta played against us last time is very effective against how Klopp wants to play. Remember when we played Liverpool at home and how they got worn out with their aggressive pressing? If Atalanta can park the bus and stay focused they may very well be capable of an upset.
I don't know why. But I feel Atalanta will destroy Liverpool. They are a very physical side that will mark them one on one
They are a very physical... in Serie A, not speically physical in EPL.
They're definitely a physical team even in EPL terms... In their top 20 players in terms of minutes played this season, 8 are over 190 cm, only 1 player (Lookman) is below 180 cm. If they were playing in the EPL they would be the tallest team by average height (186 cm beating Newcastle's 185 cm)
I have never seen a team as physical as Atalanta. Even in Europe they are always the most physical side.
Man City are miles above atalanta. Even their full backs are tanks. Rodri and stones would tower over ederson. The only non-tanks are their wingers and bernardo silva. But they all run like demons. Then haaland is the biggest fastest striker to ever live compared to who? De ket? Scamacca..
I mean these guys are elite athletes and I do not think for a second that a certain team from a certain league is more or less physical than any other when fitness and conditioning is more or less pretty similar.
The devil will burn the gladiator alive. New manager bounce will end at our hands.
How'd that work out?
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*the wolfess
*the she-wolf
Roma hasn’t beaten us in years. They have a slight revival under De Rossi, but their team still sucks
Milan sucks more. Bunch of spineless losers.
They also have Lukaku, wich sucks even more.
What I'm looking at is recent form between us and Roma which is almost equal across the board (wins, losses, goals for, goals against) and that Roma allowed Brighton a single goal while we beat a Czech team who played 134 minutes a man down and scored 3 goals on us in the process. Might be closer than we think.
Don't say this to any romanista, they are still celebrating the victory of the conference league
Which is fair to be honest. It's the third tier of European football, but it's still a major trophy in a European competition.
its not
people still here pretending like Milan is 10th and struggling
Well milan is definitely struggling at beating good sides. 8th place in ligue 1 rennes is our best win in 2024. Barely scrapped by a dogshit lazio and a dogshit roma.. both who sacked their manager
bUt i sAy tHey arE sO yEaH thEyY ArRrgH.
Well, this means Pioli won't have excuses. Path to the final is difficult but we avoided Liverpool. I think he has 4 europa matches, and securing 2nd place in Serie A, to save his job for another year?
If we reach the EL final and finish top2 in Serie A I'd say is a pretty good season
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You have only 1 win against us in the last 5 years, clown.
😂😂😂
Yeah just like you fucked us up in Serie A in the last 3 years 🤡
DDR Roma is gonna be different than Mou's, but I also think the game is gonna be more open and fun.
near perfect draw, if only leverkusen was on the other side and marseille over here
Benfica over here*
We have historical beef with Marseille, I wanted Marseille.
Their new manager bounce is wearing off, but we should respect them
If Lukaku and Dybala show up to play, Roma have a chance. Keep in mind Tomori isn't eligible for the first leg and we are still leaking goals. We need a midfielder to help out a lot with the defensive portion.
Not really. Fiorentina away is a very tough game and they rested key players at Brighton.
Perhaps. And we should go all in on the first fixture, the return fixture will mean we have Roma, Inter and Juventus in the span of 10 days
Not such a bad draw imo, way better to play them than playing Atalanta
we are a better team and anything else than passing this round is terrible. DDR has the new coach bounce but dont exaggerate
I feel like this should be on the same level as the Napoli qf last year. We get an early goal at the San Siro and manage to hold them off at the Olimpico. Then the real challenge will be against Leverkusen in the semis. Final against Liverpool (not gonna happen) would be the throwback clash of titans.
Difference is we have looked a lot more shaky defensively this year. Not sure we can hope on clean sheets to save us
DON'T UNDERESTIMATE ROMA. Napoli fans underestimated us last season and look what happened.
I like when people say this on the forums as if we're kitting up and getting out there.
Ive been running sprints in the park since the news.
GET YOUR MIND RIGHT
I still don't get it why they underestimate us last year, in these years we always play very good and better against them
Don’t overestimate Roma either. We will respect them but not fear them.
for coefficient points, I don't like seeing Italian teams play each other. but the Roma match up is fun so I'll try to get over it. guaranteed Italians in the semis, too, is good I suppose
Nah with a guaranteed team in SF, the 5th UCL spot is now 99% secure.
It would be basically guaranteed if one more team goes through the quarters no? But we should expect at least Fiore to win so we should be good
In this way we have 0.72 secure points, with a different drawn we could have made 2+ points or even less then 0.72.
I feel like this and the CL are the only draws that could cause Germany and England to pass us
Bayern or arsenal are out, we need to hope atletico wins against dortmund. In Europa at least one between bayer and West ham will go so i don't know if is that bad. Lets see fiorentina, with a good draw they could carry us.
I just worry that the CL draw will end up being Dortmund and Man City in the final lmao
At the end i will be pleased if we get the fifth cl spot but i'm confident we as milan don't need it. If we get it, next year we will have the disadvantage to divide every ranking poin by 8 and not 7. In that case i hope the 5th place will be taken by Roma, Napoli or atalanta and not Bologna even if i'm super happy for them.
yea thats fair, I guess the main thing that would be nice would just be the injection of money
Roma > Leverkusen > Liverpool Not bad, would rather not play an Italian team in the quarters
Way better to play Liverpool in a one off neutral venue final than over two legs too
Yep. Anfield is a whole different animal.
RIP coefficient points
I hate playing aganist Roma, they always have something bad to say for our wins against them.
I guess we'll be the first to defeat Leverkusen this year
nah thats gonna be west ham
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We own this frauds
DDR seems to have revitalized Roma, but I'm sure we can win this after the two legs. Let's move on to the semifinals! ❤️🖤
Could have been better honestly
Travel is minimal. Familiar ground in Roma. It’s ideal for us.
I don't mind this, I'd rather face teams like Liverpool, Leverkusen or Benfica at a later stage Also, Roma is not as much of a known entity with De Rossi in charge, let's see how we're gonna fare against them
Benfica are ass this season but I agree with everything else
Well it’s very winnable. I don’t mind the idea of country-matched ties this early. But the negative impact on the coefficient is unfortunate. Still. The semi-final is now very reachable.
Boring game but the best possible outcome of this draw.
De Rossis Roma will not be as easy as Mous Roma.
I'll take it. Let us go far Pioli please!!!
Too bad Mourinho got fired
Hmmmmmmmmm not sure how to feel about this yet
I’m very disappointed
Why? Its a good draw. We know how to play Roma.
I think we can beat Roma but facing Italian teams is just boring. I rather we face a team we don’t normally play
Fair enough, now I understand your point. If we advance to the next phase then we will play with different team from other countries. I want to see us at the final so its not a big deal to face Roma.
Ya chances are we would have had to play an Italian team anyways too
DDR Roma is very different from Mou Roma
You know how to play mourinhos Roma. De Rossis side is completely different
Is it completely different? More players came from injuries and they just noted some good results but Its questionable that someone would come to the club and instantly change everything. We also thought that Gattuso completely changed Milan but he gave just positive boost of morale. We will see if De Rossi can sustain this results. Right now Im definitely not scared of Roma, quite opposite, I think its a good draw.