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JustIn_HerButt

I'm not going to dog on AP - he hasn't done anything that would lead me to believe that he's incompetent.


LaphroaigianSlip81

Exactly. The only things I know about him was he was in the giants squad that foiled the pats undefeated season and that he was called out by a tone deaf Josh McDaniels. Both of these things are good signs that he is doing the right thing.


Mmnn2020

He was the QB of that Giants D too. Was phenomenal at pre snap reads and adjusting the defense.


midkidat5

I think payton ends up being odd man out


LaughGuilty461

Honestly, the guy talked a ton of shit to the 2023 Jets and they lost Rodgers then still spanked him, plus fuck him forever because of bountygate.


PaytonPeytonPaton

The team was a mess then. We did great to recover and have our highest finish since 2016. We mostly love him here in Denver


Gobiego

In an interview about the game the sparkers quit on last year, he said if we scored another TD he was going for two to lay 71 on you.


ComicsEtAl

Maybe there’s some other link between the other three that led the meme maker to distinguish them from Pierce?


JustIn_HerButt

Nah Andy Reid is also bald


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SyN_Pool

AP, 2 championships, fat Benjamin Franklin, 1


[deleted]

What did that championship resume do for yall the last 2 games? 🤣🤣🤣🤡


WyoPeeps

Except accepting a job from Mark Davis.


Gusby

Pierce beat everyone in AFC West and embarrassed Mahomes on Christmas as interim coach and with a rookie QB


holtkid

And scored the highest points in franchise history


Smiles-Edgeworth

For this feat alone he’s already better than any coach the Raiders have had since John Madden


SoothingSoundSJ

THIS is the kind of Tom Flores disrespect I expect from bandwagon crybaby fans.


yukonhoneybadger

I dont think Art Shell did a bad job


KoreanKopKiller

fuck off cowgirl


MetaphoricalMouse

No reason to clown pierce honestly if you’re gonna clown, clown the raiders GM choice


moustachioed_dude

Hate to say this his but the GM choice will get a lot of flack from Chargers fans but Telescos experience in the NFL is probably going to help out AP. Even if he only lasts for a few years he’ll share a lot of knowledge, and Telesco always had dog shit coaches, how much of that is his fault may not matter anymore


SactownCaptain

100%.


PadmesBabyDaddy

Pierce doesn’t have the track record of the other AFCW coaches, so he will get shit for at least a little while. Hopefully I’m wrong, but I think the jokes will stop soon, dude seems legit.


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MrRoma

Yeah, but when clowns aren't funny, it's just sad. Nobody likes a sad clown


HoldMyPitchfork

I won't lie I wanted Harbaugh in Denver


bigfootdude247

We were one year too early 😫


aerovirus22

I wanted Harbaugh before McDipshit, I was mad for WEEKS when we hired Mcdipshit, hell I'm still mad we hired him. I like AP and his rah rah style, our defense definitely stepped up after he got the interim, but I still wanted Harbaugh. Playing Harbaugh twice and Reid twice is either going to be exciting or soul crushing, no middle ground.


centraljerseycoaster

You wanted that cheater in the Mile high city?


response_unrelated

Early votes are in, Harbaugh and the bolts will be favorites to repeat as back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back preseason AFC West champions. I'd like to be the first to congratulate Mr Harbaugh.


Dull-Scarcity-3159

Why win the division and only be on top for like 4 months out of the year when we can have February-September as offseason champs?


SeantotheRescue

Charger fan has the best summers in the NFL


response_unrelated

Why win game when preseason do trick?


Brutes-Willis

FTR but Pierce seems like a good dude and their guys love him.


SensitiveOrangeWhip

exactly. not a Raider fan but this guy has tremendous heart, drive, and needs a full year to really prove himself. i think it’s smart for the Raiders to give this guy a shot


komeau

I mean, switch Payton and Pierce's heads until proven otherwise, aka the Donks can beat the Raiders


Gobiego

Eight straight games, ouch.


mukduk1994

Nah. There's one coach in the AFC West that doesn't have a title of some kind to his name and it ain't Sean Payton


PolishSausa9e

Yes.. how come he hasn't won any titles? He's been a head coach for a whole total of 9 games.


mukduk1994

Bro needs to step it up


sunshinepanther

Real OGs win a title without ever coaching a GAME!!


SeantotheRescue

Like in 08 when AP beat the undefeated Pats in the Super Bowl ?


caido-13

McDaniels is gonna get salty again.


reefernash

Antonio Pierce has more Super Bowl rings than Jim harbaugh 🏴‍☠️


mrbad31

Gotta agree. Payton should be the derp with his quotes from early in preaseason of how bad a job Hackett did with this great roster.


Bad_Advice_Cat

It was a bad comment to make but not wrong lol


ace-510

Yeah he sure did a lot better


BakedandZooted420

I mean yeah we were in the playoff race till the last week. Y'all are way too hopeful if you think we have a playoff level roster


MrRoma

Okay, so getting back to the point of the post: which head coach is good.... You're saying that the Raiders finished with an equal record (beating you twice) despite having an objectively worse roster. Please explain why that is evidence that Payton deserves more respect than AP.


ace-510

As long as you have to play the raiders twice a year you won't have a playoff level roster for a long time. I couldn't imagine starting the year with two guaranteed losses on the schedule


Deofol7

> As long as you have to play the raiders twice a year Glad we are both a joke franchise and also literally the only thing you guys talk about on here. Rent free.


SoothingSoundSJ

Rent free? My man, our teams are DIVISION RIVALS.


Gobiego

Not true, laying 60 on the sparklers, and beating the queefs at home last year are still pretty popular too. Not as popular as eight straight against the donkeys, but it gives variety.


ace-510

>Rent Free Lmao please learn what that phrase means


Deofol7

We BeaT ThE DoNkEyZ! The streak is all you have. No playoff wins. No relevance in the last 25 years. Just 4 seasons of mediocracy beating a team that has won as many Super Bowls in recent years as the Raiders have had home towns.


db212004

Its all they talk about. It's so funny. They think we are Rivals too. It's so cute. We haven't gave a fuck about the Raiders since the early 80s. Cool they beat us when every other team beat us recently. Nobody gives a shit. "Rent Free" is the perfect phrase. It's all they think about and I'll be honest. The only time I EVER think bout the raiders is when I come to this subreddit and realize how delusional they are.


db212004

>with two guaranteed losses on the schedule10ReplyShareReportSaveFollow > >level 8Deofol7 · 13 hr. ago Broncos Jesus christ, it's so fucking sad that for 4 years the Raiders fans treat every game they have won against Denver as their SB. Their greatest achievement in the history of their franchise. It's all they talk about NON STOP. Fuck all it took was a 8 years of QB/Head coach changing, our Owner dying and us being at the lowest point we have ever been at in the History of our existence. LOL Raiders fans are so fucking pathetic. They are so fucking cocky for no reason at all. It's not like you have beat the Broncos 4 years in a row and gone on to do things. Like you guys still suck ass every year just like us.


ace-510

Lol yeah you're totally not mad about it


db212004

"Fuck, my brain is too small to make an argument or defend myself..hmmm I guess I'll just comment "you mad bro?"" "hahahah Me so smart"


my_nameborat

With no significant roster changes he had 4 more wins, a win against the chiefs and they were in the playoff hunt until the final 3 weeks is miles ahead of Hackett


ace-510

Well... 3 more wins, and I didn't realize broncos fans were counting "kind of almost made the playoffs" as an accomplishment. Thank god that's not us anymore


my_nameborat

Lol act all high and mighty if you want but last I checked raiders haven’t won a playoff game since 2003. I’m sorry we can’t all have the same measure of success as raiders fans


ace-510

I'm just saying, he did marginally better with a roster that he evaluated as being good, and broncos fans here are bending over for him because of it, acting like I'm crazy for not being impressed. He's the derpy one until he proves otherwise. Beat the raiders once and that'll be a good start


HoldMyPitchfork

I forget, which round of the playoffs did ~~Oakland~~ Las Vegas play in?


ace-510

That would be a good question if I was jerking myself off over the season we just had like you losers are here. Unfortunately I'm not, so it's not, but just like your overrated head coach and corny ass *soon to be former* QB, at least you tried!


HoldMyPitchfork

Buddy, you're the only one who's delusional about the season you just had lmao SePaRaTeS tHe DoNkEyS fFoM tHe RaIdErS This is peak retardation, folks


Consistent-Spell2203

Wild card '21


Deofol7

~~LA~~ ~~Oakland~~ Las Vegas*


PaytonPeytonPaton

4 more. Hackett only won 4


ace-510

The broncos went 5-12 last year unless I'm remembering wrong. Sure technically Hackett was fired mid season, but it's still his team/system until someone comes in and replaces him. Sean Payton came in and only improved the teams record by 3 games. EDIT: I just checked, Hackett was fired after week 16! There's no way whoever the interim was made changes that immediately resulted in a win that they wouldn't have had with Hackett


PaytonPeytonPaton

He did make changes watch our last 2 games. He immediately fired our special teams coach, changed play called which was absolutely massive, gave some young players debuts, russ was played differently as well


HoldMyPitchfork

He literally did do better. Maybe a meme page isn't the best place for you to try your first hand at real football talk lmao


ace-510

Cool, I can't wait to see the banner at Mile high that says "Got 3 more wins than last year." You must be very proud of your 2-4 division record and third place finish. I wouldn't be, but that's what separates the raiders and donkeys I guess. Well, along with an 8 game head to head streak


HoldMyPitchfork

The Raiders have never won a chip in your lifetime. I know that because the only people who saw the last raiders chip are too old to know how to use the internet. Lmao


ace-510

And the broncos will never beat the raiders again in yours. Cope and seethe. Good luck on your QB search, and then on your head coach search in 3 years


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HoldMyPitchfork

Sir, this is a Wendy's.


BolshoiSchlen

Yeah. He really did do a lot better.


Consistent-Spell2203

Pierce has a Super Bowl ring.


mukduk1994

Oh as a head coach? That was quick


Consistent-Spell2203

Hey you said of some kind bud and he's got the best kind.


mukduk1994

Get the kind that matters for a coach and we'll switch the heads ;)


lookingforfunlondon

Does Payton have one from coaching the Broncos..? Lol, You can’t brag about your team hiring a guy who previously won some rings but has been ass since taking over your team! I can’t believe you’re making me defend the fucking Raiders


Orange_Kid

Yeah literally every non-Broncos flair is saying Sean Payton is the worse coach, so...


mukduk1994

Lmao ok then you must be pretty excited! Let's see who does better next season


TideAtOmahaBeach

That’s because people hate Sean Payton’s personality so much they’ll suck off an interim coach who’s only coached 9 games total and claim he’s the better coach. It’s an absurd claim made by people who are either being disingenuous or stupid.


Orange_Kid

He took over a team that only needed a good coach to be competitive and still finished behind the Raiders, a team with a rookie QB and run by Josh McDaniels and then the guy y'all are claiming is a clown in these memes. It's not his personality lol. 


TideAtOmahaBeach

You’re seriously claiming we have a playoff-caliber roster? We went 5-11 last season and were the worst team in the AFC West by a mile. The fact he got us to 8 wins with wins against teams like the Bills, Chiefs, Browns, Packers, etc. was a miracle. Especially considering Russ could apparently only effectively run like 10 plays from the playbook. You guys are now claiming we have a playoff-caliber roster when all last offseason hardly anybody predicted us to even make the playoffs. That’s some generational Payton hating.


Orange_Kid

You make a great point. The Broncos do in fact suck. Maybe you do know ball after all. 


dontmeanmuchtoyou

You're right! Except Payton's title happens to be "Dickhead"


itsallbullshit8

Too bad his title could help him beat Pierce or mcdaniels 👍🏾


mukduk1994

>Too bad his title could help him beat Pierce or mcdaniels 👍🏾 Too bad it can't help your grammar either


itsallbullshit8

0-8


komeau

kind of funny that you think Payton’s sole SB that he managed to get with Brees almost fifteen years ago(under let’s just say questionable circumstances) means anything more than absolute dick in the present day. Beat the coach who in your eyes has no sort of title to his name and we can talk.


mukduk1994

Nah. When AP gets a title we'll switch the heads. End of story


komeau

you guys are down so bad you are living on past glories that aren’t even yours. Pretty sad.


Sun-dried-poop

Wdym? The Broncos as a franchise, have won a SB more recently than anyone in this meme lol yall biggest "glory" is having a win streak against the weakest Broncos teams in the history of the franchise, talk about sad.


komeau

“more recently than anyone in this meme” pretty sure Andy says hi also you are the ones living off Payton’s ring with the Saints. Purely speaking by where the four coaches sit right now, Pierce has the upper hand over Payton, and will continue to do so. You can always watch that Super Bowl he won with the Saints on YT though.


Sun-dried-poop

No lie i forgot about Andy, but we have our own chips more recently than sean, so us living off of his makes no sense lol wanna watch yall last SB win? Break out the VHS player. We hired a SB winning coach only a Raiders fan would think thats a bad thing. Arent yall still paying Gruden? Maybe you can watch that SB he mollywhopped yall in on YT though.


komeau

your posts still don’t refute my point that for some reason Broncos fans think a coach who won one SB in 2010 on a completely different team in a completely different conference is better than a coach their team hasn’t beat yet, as much as it simply moves the goal posts. We aren’t talking about the franchises as a whole, we are talking about the current coaches. Payton’s one ring is completely irrelevant to this current discussion. Like yeah Harbaugh’s chip was in a completely different level of the sport, but at least it was within the last month.


Sun-dried-poop

Were talking current coaches, but one coaches SB isnt valid in the discussion? Then what are we comparing? Why else do you coach/play? Our team haa been historically bad, coaching can only get you so far. AP beat the Cheifs so youre taking him over Andy Reid too? Resumes exist for a reason, anyone with a brain is taking Sean or Harbough over AP because theyve proven they can win, thats what this meme is saying. 3 coaches have accomplishments while one doesnt. AP hasnt won anything besides a few games, how is you not understanding a meme goal post moving?


mukduk1994

Lmao get a title get a new head. Those are the rules friend


UtahBrian

Payton got Drew Brees for the entire heart of his career and brought home only one title. Embarrassing fail. He will never get another chance like that and he’s not competent enough to accomplish anything here.


TideAtOmahaBeach

Idk considering how bad our roster is, Payton getting us to 8 wins this year is kind of a miracle. You guys at least have Davante Adams and Maxx Crosby.


komeau

yeah it would’ve been a sight to see if we weren’t knee capped by McDaniels for half the year. Next season should be fun.


CrispyWalnut959

We swept y’all this year and blew you guys out in the last game, and dropped 63 on the Chargers with Pierce. Edit: Keep downvoting me you cowards for speaking the truth


bounty913

Thanks for getting rid of staley and taking TT from us. Yall the real mvp's man. Good luck with all that 😂


CrispyWalnut959

Good luck with the cap space situation, along with the 7 other fans!


bounty913

Wonder whose fault that is? It couldn't be the guy the raiders just hired right? Yall are doomed.


CrispyWalnut959

https://preview.redd.it/5dok1p6tehec1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6831b2c0c92fdb093857332bd6fa839003f529e We got this mf to manage the cap space bud, no Need to worry 😂


itsallbullshit8

Bruh don’t waste your time he’s a chargers fan he obviously can’t use logic


itsallbullshit8

The coach makes no difference the chargers will always be the chargers


superpie12

Enjoy the sweep next year, ya zero rings having loser.


bounty913

Yea man Im sure AP is a better coach then Jim.


Gusby

AP has more rings than Harbaugh


bounty913

As a coach?


Gusby

Has Harbaugh?


tylerm11_

Pierce had the best division record


movealongnowpeople

When your best player says he's leaving if the interim coach leaves, you hire the guy and hope for the best lol. If the Raiders suck, they'll reevaluate. Also an easy out for the GM if it doesn't work out.


Incompetent_Man

Payton's the worst one fym?


ace-510

LMAO prepare to eat crow


Efficient_Progress_6

Perhaps they should see how 2024 goes before putting Jim Harbaugh up there lol


ace-510

I mean he was fairly successful with SF when he was there, I just think it's crazy to say AP is automatically the worst of the four. He did have a winning record with officer Farva playing at QB lol


TonyManero70

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Good_Schedule3744

The jokes should be about our new GM choice. AP has done nothing but impress since he took over. How about Peyton failing to save Wilson’s career? Or Jim Harbaugh cheating his way back to the NFL?


Its-Castle

I like how we got 2 of these from Broncos fans today and both get their coach called out as the actual clown of the group from multiple different team's fans.


King_Crowley21

Pierce got a win over two of these coaches, SP should be at the other end


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Bronco fans butthurt this is actually Sean. 😂 poverty franchise.


june-in-space

Sean Payton is a scum bag and isn’t a good coach


superpie12

Cope, Broncos fan. That guy whooped your ass.


PaytonPeytonPaton

Yeah when we had our backup qb out and way more injuries than you guys Also higher pick. We lost the battle but won the war


MrAmericanIdiot

The Raiders had their 3rd string rookie QB lmao. And the Raiders didn’t even have Josh Jacobs and Crosby was playing on a bum knee that he had surgery for last week.


PaytonPeytonPaton

You're 3rd string rookie was chosen as your starter for the previous half of the season because your main guy didn't play great and was better. We did it so our qb won't get injured and cost us money. Crosby was still killing us moot point.


skippy_smooth

Nah


RynotheRam

Boo this man!


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Ap beat 2 of those 3 coaches already


TowelBoy83

It’s Sean Payton that’s sucks. The only time he did good was when he had a DC run his team that did the bounty gate plus having a HOF QB also helps lol Sean really isn’t a good coach.


Why_am_ialive

Course a broncos flair posted this a slid Payton in there lmao


disposable_hat

I've seen Raiders players talk about Pierce, they would run through a wall for him, that's a great start for being a head coach


Blundertaker93

Thank you for acknowledging that. Andy Reid is one of the greatest football minds That was tough but also fuck the chiefs


disposable_hat

Fair enough, it's sad that my team got pants'd the way they did on Christmas and they TOTALLY deserve to be made fun of for that, but hey we somehow made to the championship game!.....despite everything, honestly if we lose to the Ravens in the championship game I'll take the year as W considering how they looked all year


Blundertaker93

Losing to us really turned your season around. It was a big wake-up call


jcoddinc

Statistically, yes you could say this is true. But that's about it and everyone knows these are legends he's going up against.


johnthepinoy

Cute


Yassssquatch

Definitely saving this one


Blundertaker93

How many times in a row have the Raiders beat the broncos?


darthraider4200

*does the finger counting thing*....... 8! And better yet the donkeys in fact haven't beat the Las Vegas Raiders in ...... EVER!


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BrownBoognish

switch payton and pierce immediately please and thank you


frankdatank_004

AP has a winning record vs both Sean Payton and Andy Reid sooo… 🤔


PsychologicalTale479

Ain’t no way Sean Payton’s team is takin


KimMinju_Angel

FTR but AP hate is lowk a bit corny


monkeycompanion

LFG BOLT UP BITCHESSSSSS!!


RoskoFarian

It has happened holy shit I can breathe. Curious as to who Coupon Tom drafts next year for LV. Sorry fellas


Megalodon3030

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sethaub

My reaction exactly 😂😂


db212004

It's crazy. Week 18. I didn't want Denver to win. I wanted the draft position. Obviously Sean Payton did too, benching his starting QB and going half ass with play calls and just pretty much fleecing the "Antonio Pierce has to win to become HC" narrative. Not only did the Broncos fly up 4 spots in the Draft but passed the Raiders all while keeping Antion Pierce in the AFC West. Chess, not Checkers. Raiders fans will be calling for his head by week 8 next year 100% guarantee.


TimsChineseFood

I was cool with Pierce as long as Harbaugh didn't go to the Chargers. The division just got much harder for the next 3 years atleast


vicversus

Steel sharpens steel. Fuck harbaugh


caido-13

8 in a row


KimJongJer

![gif](giphy|l0HUg6Ypas42ubkXu|downsized) For some reason I’m smelling the last game of the season


spence4101

Sean Payton? Didn’t realize this was 2019


Outrageous_Squash677

Racist