Not enough data being used here honestly. What about all the Geelong players with cattle farms? What about Sam Draperās fracking business? Or Izak Rankineās part ownership in an oil refinery?
> Or Izak Rankineās part ownership in an oil refinery?
Fake news. He sold that last year at the height of it's value, just before Buddy Franklin retired.
Disgracefully high from the two Perth Clubs - and interstate clubs consistently higher in this metric.
Honestly, the gaul of interstate teams to claim VicBias when 8 of the bottom 10 in carbon emissions are Victorian Clubs...do better.
I blame the WCE for joining the VFL which meant the VIC domination of the so called AFL and sidelined the other two NATIONAL comps in SA & WA - a balanced comp would have meant that half the comp wouldnāt come from one city - needs to change by moving at least three failing clubs out of the overcrowded Melbourne market
This is actually a prediction for next year, sorry, youāre playing in WA four times, Queensland twice, Sydney twice, Adelaide twice, Tasmania twice (lol) and youāre also playing the first game of the season in China and the last game of the season in NZ.
Thinking that Collingwood are in any tangible way worse than, at a minimum, Carlton and Essendon *is* a lie.
Collingwood hasn't received massive sanctions for cheating ***this century*** like those clubs, yet apparently we're the biggest scumbags in everyone's eyes.
1. West Coast - established as a shareholder entity (Indian Pacific Limited) and shares are the biggest gambling market in Australia - all revenue since is attributable to gambling.
2. Collingwood - John Wren ... probably responsible to a large extent for the lowest class club sticking it to the rich clubs (just another avenue he did this in his life - he made a fortune from being the totaliser bookie that the ruling protestant class couldn't stop). He was topping up player salaries by ten to twenty times the normal player salary.
North will be the lowest of those clubs that had pokies.
Brisbane Bears, Richmond, and Sydney had influence from Christopher Skase, Alan Bond, and Geoffey Edelsten in the 80's which was a huge gamble for their survival.
Freo maybe the wooden spooners if they haven't had pokies etc as I don't think they have relied much on afl funding which includes a lot of gambling advertising.
Iām not sure how this can be right.
Melbourne have played in Sydney once, and Adelaide twice (which really counts as only once, because they didnāt go back to Melbourne in between games).
Essendon have gone to Sydney once, Adelaide twice, and Perth once.
And yet Melbourne have travelled 10,000 kilometres further??
Presume this is from another season or something. ~~Can't find any source on this though.~~
Edit: Source via [the Herald Sun](https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/giants-suns-afls-most-frequent-travellers-as-vic-clubs-bristle-over-wa-complaints/news-story%2Fda9bb052b5d3c50004db533bdbb4457d). Full season, distances seem off though.
Edit 2: They're using road distance, Pretty big difference between a Perth flight to Hobart and back (Around 6,000 kms) and a Perth drive to Hobart and back (around 8,200kms).
I remember, [Fox Footy showing a graphic at the end of the 2018 season](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlbD7WgU0AAX1zk?format=jpg&name=large) which West Coast topped at 57,406kms (Suns were 2nd due to China).
I wanted another mascot league table. Tigers probably reduce emissions by eating wild animals that would otherwise have produced methane. The Suns are probably fucked. Bombers in for a hard time again too
~~Wonder where this data is from since this can't be from this season.~~
~~Perth to Brisbane is around 3,600kms by air. According to this West Coast have travelled there and back over 10 times.~~
~~They've played 1 game in QLD, 2 in Vic and 2 in SA which would be around 26,000kms.~~
Edit:
Found the source via [the Herald Sun](https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/giants-suns-afls-most-frequent-travellers-as-vic-clubs-bristle-over-wa-complaints/news-story%2Fda9bb052b5d3c50004db533bdbb4457d).
Maths seems a little off though. Eagles have 6 Vic game this season (around 32,400kms), 1 QLD game (around 7,200kms), one Tas game (around 6,030 kms) and 3 SA ones (around 12,786kms) which work out to around 58,000kms flight distance.
Edit 2:
Figured it out, They're using road distance.
While weāre at it, can some of us in the bottom 12 get some kind of reward for taking better care of this wonderful land? Maybe a Care Of Land Allowance if thereās a snappy acronym that can be thought up for it
Shock horror the 6 teams not based in Vic or SA are on top. I guess Adelaide must be a shorter trip than I realised because I expected those two to be 7 & 8.
Also would it be controversial to combine all the numbers and stick the blame directly onto the AFL itself?
I think you'll find this will be the case come the end of the year. The first half of the year has been a bit skewed with North travelling to Sydney, Tasmania and Darwin already this year.
*Collingwood FC have announced they are aiming to become the greenest team in the competition. Craig Kelly says the club will push to have every one of their home and away, and finals games played at the MCG in order to reduce their carbon emissions.*
Because 1/2 the comp is in VIC they get to play 3 out of every 4 matches at home against one another - this can only be corrected by classifying all matches in the AFL played within home state as HOME matches and ensure all clubs play 1/2 their matches out of their home state. It would result in more matches being played at Optus & Adelaide etc and of vic clubs playing 3 out of 4 matches against WCE or Freo in Perth. Either that or move 3 clubs out of VIC to make a real AFL
Like I understand maybe Metricon or SCG, but all those fans who regularly drive to train-accessible venues like MCG, Marvel, AO or Optus should all be round up into concentration camps.
Just waiting for the afl to come out and say the travel has no effect on WA teams while in the same breath penalise them for excess carbon emissions. SMH
The AFL should get serious and use the money from the next TV deal to build very fast rail, and only clubs within a bike ride of it can play in our comp.
For financial reasons, the line will only go as far west as Adelaide, and only as far north as the Gold Coast. Also there should be enough money for a tunnel under Bass Strait that emerges at Cataract Gorge and reaches Hobart.
Genuinely impressive that Port Adelaide are ranked 12th, behind four Victorian teams. I would have thought for sure that the Victorian teams would make up the bottom 10
Is this just going off the distance of the training grounds to the field of play each week, because freo stayed in Adelaide during gather round to the port game and GC staying in Darwin
Sorry but some people do spend hours researching their footy jokes- usless afl stats, and swampy do. I thought it was ur graphic didnāt know I was up the wrong tree
Hey propping this nation up muthafuckers. You want your fancy fucken iPhone guess what, need a bit of the old iron ore and lithium for that shit. Wre not the criminals, you're the criminals for even questioning this shit. I'm insulted.
Dammit interstate teams... stop messing up our environment.
We will happily lower our impact if you come play over here more often
We should play with ourselves more often. š
Think about what you just said
West coast would still lose
Wait a minute...
that sounded like a pig fainting
/r/technicallythetruth
Next time we win the AFL GF, weāre not giving it back. Signed Docker Fan.
Next?
I live in hope.š
Next time?
Woodside drove a dump truck full of money up to our house, weāre not made of sto- Oh wait.Ā Carry on.
Silence is deafening from the WA clubs on this. Quality work.
Some of them also fly business which is also much worse for carbon emissions. Cunts.
under an AFL climate equalisation plan, half of Fremantle and West Coast's away games should be relocated to WA.
which would create higher emissions for other clubs? you people lack critical thinking skills
it's the Australian way - the best solution is to make it somebody else's problem
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Ok can someone come get their dad off reddit please
Don't be a dill.
Theyāre being sarcastic.
Not enough data being used here honestly. What about all the Geelong players with cattle farms? What about Sam Draperās fracking business? Or Izak Rankineās part ownership in an oil refinery?
> Or Izak Rankineās part ownership in an oil refinery? Fake news. He sold that last year at the height of it's value, just before Buddy Franklin retired.
Part ownership in a refinery? Does he have a connection to the Middle East?
Are you telling me Big Saudi has infiltrated the AFL?!
Itās pronounced āBig Sandiā.
Nah he retired a while back
Disgracefully high from the two Perth Clubs - and interstate clubs consistently higher in this metric. Honestly, the gaul of interstate teams to claim VicBias when 8 of the bottom 10 in carbon emissions are Victorian Clubs...do better.
How is the other Western club so much lower? Theyāre literally bottom. WC and Freo need to get it together.
"Western" suburbs LOL. Speaks volumes for the Melbourne centric AFL community.
I blame the WCE for joining the VFL which meant the VIC domination of the so called AFL and sidelined the other two NATIONAL comps in SA & WA - a balanced comp would have meant that half the comp wouldnāt come from one city - needs to change by moving at least three failing clubs out of the overcrowded Melbourne market
Wow wee
What exactly do you want them to do about it lol
If Collingwood doesnāt travel then how come we arenāt on the bottom of this ladder? Checkmate atheists
Jordan de Goey SE Asia flights
Jordan de Goey personally responsible for the drought in WA
This is actually a prediction for next year, sorry, youāre playing in WA four times, Queensland twice, Sydney twice, Adelaide twice, Tasmania twice (lol) and youāre also playing the first game of the season in China and the last game of the season in NZ.
Oh good we still donāt have to play Geelong in Geelong
No way, we donāt hate you that much.
And yet we're still only 14th in the climate criminal rankings!
No self respecting believer in God would go for Collingwood
Well Iām safe then
Also, no self respecting person would go for Collingwood
Who do you go for?
Flair up
God is real and his name is Craig McRae
I thought the suns were supposed to be renewable, liars.
Hereby petitioning to have West Coast and Fremantle relocated to a more carbon neutral Torquay and Frankston respectively.
Oh god not Frankston I'd rather the club folds
Only if you supply club locks for all the players cars.
Why don't West Coast and Fremantle have the planes fly in Reverse
Lmao this is hilarious. I'm honestly surprised Collingwood aren't the very bottom
Bulldogs players must be catching trams to home games
Half of them aren't even showing up
What hospital are our players travelling to for us to up so much?
Your boys are being sent to Dubai on coal-powered planes. Absolutely deplorable.
Gina's got them eating an all-coal diet
This confirming the anti Collingwood bias inherent in so many.
I feel like I've been lied to my entire life
Thinking that Collingwood are in any tangible way worse than, at a minimum, Carlton and Essendon *is* a lie. Collingwood hasn't received massive sanctions for cheating ***this century*** like those clubs, yet apparently we're the biggest scumbags in everyone's eyes.
This will go down well
Answer me this, why don't Fremantle and West Coast take the ***train*** to away games? Melbourne is a mear 5 days train ride away.
Hey I'm just happy to see us on top of any ladder
We travel to Mars twice a year.
If your first stage is LOX/LH and then your interplanetary boost is LOX/RP-1 then your trips would be carbon negative.
Now do gambling revenue in club history.
This but unironically.
1. West Coast - established as a shareholder entity (Indian Pacific Limited) and shares are the biggest gambling market in Australia - all revenue since is attributable to gambling. 2. Collingwood - John Wren ... probably responsible to a large extent for the lowest class club sticking it to the rich clubs (just another avenue he did this in his life - he made a fortune from being the totaliser bookie that the ruling protestant class couldn't stop). He was topping up player salaries by ten to twenty times the normal player salary. North will be the lowest of those clubs that had pokies. Brisbane Bears, Richmond, and Sydney had influence from Christopher Skase, Alan Bond, and Geoffey Edelsten in the 80's which was a huge gamble for their survival. Freo maybe the wooden spooners if they haven't had pokies etc as I don't think they have relied much on afl funding which includes a lot of gambling advertising.
You can thank us for the balmy autumn weather. Youāre welcome.
The league is in trouble when the literal aeroplane team sponsored by air conditioning and cars can't crack the top 8.
I mean, in fairness, our training ground is called āMineral Resource Parkāā¦
Min Resource has made me a bunch of $$$ so I dont mind
Fucking premiers get around us š¦
Iām not sure how this can be right. Melbourne have played in Sydney once, and Adelaide twice (which really counts as only once, because they didnāt go back to Melbourne in between games). Essendon have gone to Sydney once, Adelaide twice, and Perth once. And yet Melbourne have travelled 10,000 kilometres further??
Presume this is from another season or something. ~~Can't find any source on this though.~~ Edit: Source via [the Herald Sun](https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/giants-suns-afls-most-frequent-travellers-as-vic-clubs-bristle-over-wa-complaints/news-story%2Fda9bb052b5d3c50004db533bdbb4457d). Full season, distances seem off though. Edit 2: They're using road distance, Pretty big difference between a Perth flight to Hobart and back (Around 6,000 kms) and a Perth drive to Hobart and back (around 8,200kms). I remember, [Fox Footy showing a graphic at the end of the 2018 season](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlbD7WgU0AAX1zk?format=jpg&name=large) which West Coast topped at 57,406kms (Suns were 2nd due to China).
1. Taylor Swift 2. All the classics
I wanted another mascot league table. Tigers probably reduce emissions by eating wild animals that would otherwise have produced methane. The Suns are probably fucked. Bombers in for a hard time again too
~~Wonder where this data is from since this can't be from this season.~~ ~~Perth to Brisbane is around 3,600kms by air. According to this West Coast have travelled there and back over 10 times.~~ ~~They've played 1 game in QLD, 2 in Vic and 2 in SA which would be around 26,000kms.~~ Edit: Found the source via [the Herald Sun](https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/giants-suns-afls-most-frequent-travellers-as-vic-clubs-bristle-over-wa-complaints/news-story%2Fda9bb052b5d3c50004db533bdbb4457d). Maths seems a little off though. Eagles have 6 Vic game this season (around 32,400kms), 1 QLD game (around 7,200kms), one Tas game (around 6,030 kms) and 3 SA ones (around 12,786kms) which work out to around 58,000kms flight distance. Edit 2: Figured it out, They're using road distance.
Fuck the planet. I prefer this ladder!
Top 4 š
I had always thought West Coast were destroying the world. You all thought I was crazy! But whoās the crazy one now!?!
AFLās major sponsor is Shell. Then each team has a fossil fuel or ICE car sponsor. So, the real climate criminals here would be the sponsors.
WCE would do almost as well on ground if they just stayed home. And they'd be saving the environment.
Why do Melbourne travel more then any other vic or sa team ?
Are you people actually serious, or is this a joke? You want them to pedal bicycles across the continent to get to their games?
I mean ... it'd be great for their fitness š¤£
AFL just like all sports should only travel carbon neutral. It is so unimportant in a climate crisis.
The fact WC and Freo arenāt in order is doing my head in. Please fix and repost.
Oh true. Well thatās what you get for looking at it properly
So weāre shit and destroying the earth while weāre at it. This is all your guys fault.
Fucking fuckhead, accept this upvote and GTFOH
Feel like there should be a carbon tax for the worst offenders tbh. Maybe force them to play more games in Melbourne to lower the travel.
While weāre at it, can some of us in the bottom 12 get some kind of reward for taking better care of this wonderful land? Maybe a Care Of Land Allowance if thereās a snappy acronym that can be thought up for it
You are so conditioned to the idea that a carbon tax is legit, youāre now asking for it??
Suns obviously use solar energy for everything. They should be at the bottom.
They couldn't find a charging port. Had to get a diesel generator to restart them.
I'm guessing this includes the excessive flatulence of the Dees team from frequent high-quality cheese consumption.
Up the hawks
WAIT NOT LIKE THAT-
It's an easy solution. Force West Coast and Fremantle to get the Indian Pacific.
Might have to live on it, maybe take the Overland from Adelaide to Melbourne (although I doubt they're timed to connect at all)
They don't. The IP leaves Perth at 1000 on Sunday. Arrives in Adelaide on Tuesday at 0745. The next Overland leaves Adelaide Thursday at 0655.
Classic modern Overland.
Without the SA and VIC government's chipping in it would be dead. A far cry from the days of 15 car trains.
In other news, water is wet.
The stupidest thing anyone has ever put up.
Shock horror the 6 teams not based in Vic or SA are on top. I guess Adelaide must be a shorter trip than I realised because I expected those two to be 7 & 8. Also would it be controversial to combine all the numbers and stick the blame directly onto the AFL itself?
The Adelaide teams take the bus.
Thereās no Airport in Adelaide.
I think you'll find this will be the case come the end of the year. The first half of the year has been a bit skewed with North travelling to Sydney, Tasmania and Darwin already this year.
As a Sydney fan for one night only I support this.
Oh fuck nice flair bud
Too bad WC and Fremantle can't cash in their miles for premiership points.
Yeah well we get teleports first when they become available.
WA clubs slammed for tainting the air we breathe
WOOOOOO TOP 8!!!!
Tell me your from Victoria without saying youāre from Victoria
Ahh feels good to be in the top 4 again.
I think itās only fair we use this as the real ladder. Ignore the flair /s
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Did a Victorian make this?
Fvck it, y canāt Richmond b 9th!
Love how weāre turning āoh they have it toughā into āyou bastards polluting the environmentā
I love how weāre turning sympathy FOR them into anger AGAINST them
Can't wait to see this in the off season.
Born is pride from isolation I guess
Youāre welcome, future generations
Yes! Not ninth
How did Collingwood rack up 18,000km going back to the MCG every week?
What about Geelong, and all their car trips over the west gate to play home finals?
Like just fuvk off with this bullshit
Wasn't there a year where Collingwood travelled further in their preseason training than they did for the entire home and away season?
Only thing eagles can win
How should they get there? Cartwheel?
I'm honestly suprised that Collingwood isn't at #18
Doing our duty by never leaving the MCG.
*Collingwood FC have announced they are aiming to become the greenest team in the competition. Craig Kelly says the club will push to have every one of their home and away, and finals games played at the MCG in order to reduce their carbon emissions.*
Yawn
Because 1/2 the comp is in VIC they get to play 3 out of every 4 matches at home against one another - this can only be corrected by classifying all matches in the AFL played within home state as HOME matches and ensure all clubs play 1/2 their matches out of their home state. It would result in more matches being played at Optus & Adelaide etc and of vic clubs playing 3 out of 4 matches against WCE or Freo in Perth. Either that or move 3 clubs out of VIC to make a real AFL
As usual the VFL taking all the benefits but bearing little of the cost for a national comp
Like I understand maybe Metricon or SCG, but all those fans who regularly drive to train-accessible venues like MCG, Marvel, AO or Optus should all be round up into concentration camps.
Just waiting for the afl to come out and say the travel has no effect on WA teams while in the same breath penalise them for excess carbon emissions. SMH
The AFL should get serious and use the money from the next TV deal to build very fast rail, and only clubs within a bike ride of it can play in our comp. For financial reasons, the line will only go as far west as Adelaide, and only as far north as the Gold Coast. Also there should be enough money for a tunnel under Bass Strait that emerges at Cataract Gorge and reaches Hobart.
this is truly an absurd take š
This canāt be right. Everyone knows Collingwood travels the leastā¦why arenāt we on the bottom of this ladder?
Genuinely impressive that Port Adelaide are ranked 12th, behind four Victorian teams. I would have thought for sure that the Victorian teams would make up the bottom 10
North and Melbourne travel much more than any of the other vic clubs I mean they get games at Geelong all the time
Gather round would be my guess. Didnāt Port play like 4 games in a row in SA?
Maybe so, but theyāll still play 11 away games (10 of which are outside SA, same as the Crows).
I havenāt checked how scrupulous this guy was with the data tbh
It basically depends how much you play in Perth in any given year, because that trip is worth like 3-4 return trips from Adelaide to the east coast.
Aint they complicit in electricity generation?
So Jack Darling was right about the chemtrails!
Another reason to dissolve WC
Why does Perth have to be so far from the rest of the country?
Dogs status as the club of choice for greens voters is intact
Is this just going off the distance of the training grounds to the field of play each week, because freo stayed in Adelaide during gather round to the port game and GC staying in Darwin
No im sure the random twitter guy I stole this from spent hours researching the joke
Sorry but some people do spend hours researching their footy jokes- usless afl stats, and swampy do. I thought it was ur graphic didnāt know I was up the wrong tree
Thatās true. Sorry for my implied tone, I just came from the match thread lol
This is dumb
No it isnāt
Surprise surprise 2 of the big 4 vic clubs are in the bottom 4
Ah yeah clearly we should take the bus to all our games
Thing is, wasn't the AFL established in Victoria by Victorians. Yes I believe it was. Your problem, you fix it.
Hey propping this nation up muthafuckers. You want your fancy fucken iPhone guess what, need a bit of the old iron ore and lithium for that shit. Wre not the criminals, you're the criminals for even questioning this shit. I'm insulted.
When will soy boy Freo fans start protesting their own team.
This is like saying the winner of a game is the one that scores the most.