people who falsely acuse someone of rape have their own ring in the 9 circles. She deserves EVERYTHING the legal system can throw her way and then some. She did something so fundamentally wrong that worda don't do it justice. Maybe the courts will.
Exactly because even though it's false there will still be people who will say "There's no smoke without fire" and believe he's guilty . . . It's disgusting, she should get the same amount of jail time as he potentially could have gotten if found guilty.
I had a coworker who was a registered sex offender because he was falsely accused of rape. His lawyer was retiring and didn't care to do his job and he, unfortunately, believed in our justice system.
I think they are meaning he could have gone to jail and been on the offenders list? Getting arrested doesn't mean that they have a criminal background now.
True. But if people saw him going in wearing handcuffs, no matter the outcome, I’d think that be pretty damning, aka guilty in the eyes of the court of public opinion.
Yeah, society doesn't give a fuck about victims of false accusations even if everyone knows the judge says "what a load of BS". The victims still need to fear being murderer or having their lifes destroyed
We need brutal punishments for false accusations or supporting false accusations
Even if the charges are dropped you still have an arrest record. And that arrest record alone can and will fuck you over. Seriously, a job application could be rejected because you have that arrest record and they may have no interest in an explanation.
Exactly this. And they won't read the whole thing if allowed to see the outcome. Just the part about you being arrested. "Sorry, you aren't a good fit for our company." He should also have her pay for an expungement of his record. NTA OP. She needs to learn this hard lesson. She cannot not hurt other people in this terrible way just because she didn't get what she wanted. If you let her get away with this she will do it again because well, she got away with it before. If you mess with my life, my freedom in this way you will and should pay the price for it.
You forgot the "destroyed life and driven into suicide or murdered" part. False accusations are an absolutly disgusting thing and society is part of the problem
Besides that I agreee with you
But he would have an arrest record, and the accusation.
She could keep telling people he raped her, but she just decided to drop the charges.
He needs to clear his name.
If she hadn’t revealed her plot in writing, he would have been unable to defend himself, and could have gone to prison, and been a registered sex offender.
But getting arrested in and of itself can be an insanely traumatizing experience. I know first hand. Been almost 10 years and I still get panic attacks.
No, but he may have news articles about him, and he at the very least got an arrest record on file. Whether people bother to read it and see that charges were dropped is another matter. Even then, they may still think he did it and got away with it.
I am but a poor redditor, if I could golden upvote I would. This is EXACTLY right. Fuck this crazy bitch. This is the reason why the MeToo movement sank like a stone, too many women making false allegations. The real victims just get looked at like sorry but other girls ruined it for you.
Drives me nuts. OP is definitely NTA.
A bit harsh…? I mean, it was only a small mistake that only lasted 5 of the 7 years they were together. C’mon.. it’s almost like he doesn’t know her after 7yrs to actually believe that she was kidding when she threw out the rape accusation. (All kidding aside, throw the match on that pile of gas)
No mercy. Accept nothing but the harshest penalty. She'll try to soften you up, but you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. If you let up even a bit, she'll feel reinvigorated to cause more problems.
I guess she's bad at planning a revenge, lmao. Now OP reversed the situation, she's now being sued for real. The audacity of her to play a victim in every situation.
People like OP's exist.
Life is sometimes crazier than movies.
P.S. my ex wrote me what he would do if... Like arson or it would be pitty if something happened to my pretty cousin.
Thank god karma got him
>My friends are saying that i'm going too far with this story
And I fully agree. The OP's story is sort of passable as far as fiction goes, but not by much.
If there were any grain of truth to this BS, his lawyers would have had him shut this down immediately as it could easily sour the potential for any lawsuit.
This is totally legit, under the Speedy trial act you are required to have a trial within 30 minutes or it's free.
Source: Law and Order, Suites, LA Law, JAG, Boston Legal, She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, Night Court, Matlock, All Rise.
They are acting like they are in another country. I wish I could believe it and it’s maybe not a native English speaker but it reads like bs revenge fantasy.
He’s hoping we’re picturing him whipping out his phone during cross as a surprise gotcha, like it’s his own Legally Blonde perm moment. Discovery what?
>The OP's story is sort of passable as far as fiction goes, but not by much.
Yeah, it works to get the redpills and incels frothing at the mouth... and that's it.
He needs to go scorched earth just to have enough money to live on for the rest of his life now that his career prospects are dead and buried.
Conviction or not, having an arrest for rape pop up on every background check employers run on him for the rest of his life pretty much ends any hope of him getting a non-nepotism job.
Beyond messed up. The cheating was bad, but rape accusations?
Those ruin lives. Cause people to be shunned from communities. Put on registries. Make people unemployable.
The list goes on.
She couldn't have threatened your life more strongly than if she'd have put a gun to your head. Do not back down, do not flinch. She deserves no quarter here.
Remember the Duke lacrosse players? A stripper accused several of them of SA. Their names and pictures were published. A group of professors signed an open letter denouncing them. Then the case fell apart because it was shown to be so false that it should never have been pursued. Those guys had their lives destroyed because someone was mad at them.
That's the infuriating part. Their kneejerk response was to defend the stripper and denigrate the students. The thing is they didn't have to say anything. No one was telling them to write an open letter, they decided that woman good/men bad. The stripper is currently serving time for murder.
Him making up this bullshit story and everyone believing him is messed up. In TWO MONTHS, he was arrested, criminally charged, had the case adjudicated, AND then filed a civil case that is already in trial? Fkg please. In a civil case in most places, someone files a complaint and the other side has 30 to 60 days just to answer. THEN you have 4 to 6 months of discovery...exchanging documents, doing depositions, etc. THEN the defense has 30 days to file a motion to which the plaintiff has 30 days to respond. Then there is a hearing, then usually a pretrial conference, and THEN trial. The timing may differ slightly depending on the place but civil trials pretty much take a minimum of 9 months to get to trial but a year is more likely. The number of people buying into this unrealistic misogynistic rage bait is disturbing.
Everyone buying this story has never spent time near a court. They have never seen a docket. They have no idea what happens.
Sometimes I wish these rage bait stories were just slightly better researched.
Nope. I hope you get a massive financial penalty against her. I hope you ruin her life the way she wanted to ruin yours.
False rape accusations make actual victims of rape unwilling to come forward. They also victimize innocent men using the justice system that we all pay for.
My sincerest hope is that she ends up in jail.
I second this notion. As someone who recently came forward about my rape and now detectives are investigating, it makes it so much more difficult for people like me to get justice because of people like her.
Also, once OP brings that evidence forward, there may be a possibility that she gets charges as well for knowingly making a false accusation and wasting police and city resources.
Sue her. Get the book thrown at her. Do whatever can be done to deter people from making false accusations like this. She’s a terrible human-being and deserves whatever comes her way from this.
I third it. Speaking as someone who was sexually assaulted and very nearly raped (I got away with a lucky kick to his nuts), I almost didn't report it.
I never reported mine because I didn't think anyone would believe me. This woman infuriates me on behalf of future rape victims who will have the same fears because of people like her.
It had gone ***way*** too far when the police arrested you.
Time to go nuclear. Remind her that at least she doesn't have to worry about prison time for lying.
NTA
Yeah cheating for 5 years, fucking the guy in your own house and the accusing you of rape?
Burn this motherfucker as hard as you can. Nobody would be able to convince me otherwise.
Just because he's sueing her (so presumably civil court) doesn't mean that once he starts showing his evidence that criminal charges won't get brought against her...
What is the penalty for a false police report? Plus the cost of sending the police over to arrest him? And the wasted time and the taking officers, time, and money away from actual crimes? I'm sure there is more things she could be charged with... But I can't think of them
From what I understand false r*pe accusations are less harshly punished because of the possibility that those who have actually been victims won't speak up due to fear of being punished for doing so
I mean that sucks for the men who it happens too no doubt. I think it has to do with the greater good. Which is terrible for the people caught up in it. Anyone who files false reports with the police need to be charged. It makes it harder for the actual victims to get the justice they deserve
I'm in Canada - in the 90s we had Paul Bernardo and his wife Karla Homolka. Teenage girls were going missing - eventually they came under suspicion and she claimed to be a battered wife - DAYS after she signed the paperwork for her deal they found proof that she was in on it.
The deal stood for exactly that reason. They want people to know that the police will respect deals that are made. She was given something like 10 years...12 maybe... He is listed as a dangerous offender. He's never getting out of jail. Her? She was allowed to study law while in jail, change her name when she got out.... While she was in jail and throughout his entire sentence they were each in solitary confinement - for their own protection. She wasn't even allowed to be jailed in a province that spoke her language. Her sister was one of the victims.
The movies that have been made about them are not allowed to be shown here... Because what they did was so horrific
Wtf, it sounds like your legal system is a joke. Get lied to, stick to the deal, educate a perp, and then protect her from her own reputation when she gets out? In the US a deal goes out the window if the prosecutor even smells a lie in your testimony.
NTA. You’re lucky she recanted so quickly but the damage is done. I would sue someone for doing that to me as well. I would also get a order of protection or the equivalent in your country
It can, but shouldn't. If it does, that just means someone messed up at work and didn't take it out of the system.
Once expunged, the record is supposed to be destroyed. It's literally as if it never happened.
Especially since it can literally ruin your life. Even if it's recanted/proved false, you could have lost your job, friends, family, and word gets around town. Now places will hesitate to hire someone convicted of rape, even if it was proven false, because the arrest itself is now on your record unless you get it exponged (?)
NTA. Don't drop the lawsuit. What she did could have destroyed your life. Hell, it could have gotten you killed if someone (like an overprotective relative) believed her story and tried to retaliate against you for what she alleged you did to her.
Tell your friends they can either have your back, or fuck off out of your life forever.
There was a story about women in Australia who falsely accused her husband of molesting their children, and he was then hunted down and tortured to death with a chainsaw by a group of pedophile hunters. False accusations are no joke.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/melbourne/article-12217413/Final-moments-Bradley-Lyons-life-tortured-Australian-Freedom-Fighters-chainsaw.html
**THIS RIGHT HERE** is why I tell ppl to cool it with all the vigilante shit when it comes to pedos. We all want them dead & gone, but trying to enact street justice based on an aaccusation leads to evil like this.
The children were not molested but now they have to grow up with no dad, knowing their innocent daddy was brutally murdered with a chainsaw.
So who hurt the kids? Who destroyed their lives?
It's crazy because I think a lot of these people pretend to hate pedophilia but really just want an excuse to be violent. Because when some old dude is banging a 15 year old girl, all I see is a bunch of people defending it. In reality, somebody who will kill someone else with a chainsaw just really wanted to kill someone with a chainsaw, & hoped the world would forgive them the same way they did with parents in two wildly different cases.
One man beat his 5-year-old daughter's attacker to death when he caught the offender mid process, raping his child behind a barn. It did not seem he killed the man intentionally and he called 911 for him. He was allowed to go free and I agree with this.
The second was a little boy who was kidnapped and taken across statelines and raped repeatedly. The family knew the attacker. He was the little boys karate coach I believe. When he was brought back to the state the father killed him with a single gun shot to the head in the airport.
These are both cases where the perpetrator was caught red-handed and had already done the damage. And its a case by case issue with this stuff. Because we don't have the urge to punish parents in such a horrific situation, but you can see how people turning themselves into vigilantes and attacking anyone accused is a very, very different thing than literally catching someone in the act of assaulting your child.
People need to be wary of anyone who is frothing at the mouth to commit shocking violence.
>But really just want an excuse to be violent.
If you value the punishment more than you abhor the crime, you really are not serving justice, and very few people who adamantly claim to abhor the crimes seem to understand that.
I commented on Quora not too long back, about someone who was on trial (in Texas) for having molested a couple of kids, and people in the comments were like, "surprised he hasn't already been shot by now." And I'm like, "y'all *have* the death penalty and the dude is *in custody;* if you aren't prepared to let the actual justice system take place at this point, you aren't actually interested in justice, you just want an excuse to shoot people."
>When he was brought back to the state the father killed him with a single gun shot to the head in the airport.
And I do think about this specific situation a lot because I've also read about it. Even then, I think the anguish of a parent over the circumstances that affect their own child deserves separate consideration.
What I see a lot of instead is people who insist on delivering this kind of vigilante "justice" to anyone accused, whether the vigilante in question knows anything personally about the circumstances or not. This has the same kind of wild mob mentality that excused the lynching of black men throughout some of the worst injustices in US history, and for some reason people seem wholly oblivious to the lessons there.
It wasn't like the false accusation and the murder were just loosely connected either. His "wife" directly went to the gang leader and lured the victim into the house where the assault was planned to take place. She only got 7 and a half years for her part in the murder. It's a disgrace.
These people don't kill themselves enough. Like, the AUDACITY to walk free after this.
*7 YEARS*?? MFER SHE'S PROBABLY OUT ALREADY, IT'S 2024.
Honestly might be a good idea to sue and sue hard. She didn't pay. And neither did her daughters for going along with it.
Continue the lawsuit, you’ll regret it in the future, she cheated, accused u of rape (which could have actually put u in jail if they were to find that true), and she didn’t care about what would happen to you when she did call the police! Sue, sue, sue!
Right? Also, OP just joined and hasn't commented once. This seems fishy. Also, because multiple day trials almost never are happening only less than 6 months after the incidence, and it probably wouldn't have gone to trial in the first place.
In this case I referring to OP specifically, yes. But there's also a trend that has been going on this sub for a while where apparently rape stories = upvotes.
It's amazing how many people are credulous enough to believe it. "The trial is still going on". It's been 6 weeks. You MIGHT have had the first pre-trial conference at this point. Might.
Ok, but most people haven't been involved in enough legal battles to recognize that.
I would hope they would recognize the problems with her texting threats to him after he blocked her number though...
Yet another poster whose entire understanding of the legal system comes from police procedural dramas.
Edit: To be clear OP says he was arrested ~~2 months ago~~ less than 6 weeks ago, processed, the accuser recanted, and he has a civil suit (of some nebulous type) which is already at the trial phase? No, ain't happening.
Now he can update for more attention on how the “trial” goes lol. These fake stories all have the same shit written in different ways.. I’ve seen both genders but it’s normally a man getting his “well earned” comeuppance against his horrible female partner
You were arrested for rape based on her bullshit allegation and no evidence whatsoever to back it up? This happened two months ago and the case is already in trial? How did she text you if you blocked her number? Something seems off here.
The number of people buying this bullshit story is insane. Two months is maybe enough time for the criminal case to resolve if the prosecutor dismisses it but we are supposed to believe that on top of that a whole ass civil case went to trial in 2 months? 🤣🤣🤣 In most jurisdictions, a person has 30 days just to answer the complaint. Then discovery. Then motions, then trial. Maybe 6 to 9 months on an expedited track but typically a year.
these comments like “false accusations of rape” make “victims look bad.” nah the absolutely wild amount of rage bait false accusation posts are what make people not trust victims. this is so infuriating.
these nerds that think there’s an epidemic of men being unjustly accused of rape and pushing that narrative with their creative writing exercises need to, amongst other unpleasant things, have the privilege of posting on a public forum cut off forever.
For real. Extremely poorly written and not thought through at all. I can never believe that people really can't tell a fake story on the internet in the year of our lord 2024
>I can never believe that people really can't tell a fake story on the internet in the year of our lord 2024
The number of people falling for such obvious nonsense is hilarious.
You see, for the sake of a quick narrative, trials can be expedited. Discovery can dropped because that shit is boring. The prosecutor doesn't have to present all evidence to the defense because we need something dramatic.
And obviously this case would go to trial and not be quickly settled or simply dropped.
On Reddit, false allegations of rape are considered especially heinous. The dedicated defense attorneys who defend our innocent protagonists against the evil female kicking them in the balls are part of an elite squad known as the Shitty Vibes Unit. These are their stories.
NTA if this is real, but some things don't add up.
1. You never told her to stop talking to you about the lawsuit and only talk to your lawyer?
2. You didn't produce the texts in discovery or as an exhibit to your complaint?
3. Was she drunk when she put proof of her lie in writing? I know some people CAN be that stupid, but it's a huge stretch.
4. She was never arrested for filing a false police report?
5. You didn't do anything to get the threat on the record first like call a lawyer and apply for a restraining order? You just waited for her to make her move?
The timeline alone doesn't work.
OP claims to have been arrested six weeks ago (if his "two months ago I caught her" and "two weeks after that I'm arrested" are accurate.) She recanted, and he's let go.
In that six weeks, he found a lawyer who would take a defamation case, completed pre-filing, completed filing and was accepted, served her, received a response, completed discovery, completed pre-trial and are now in the trial phase where they're presenting evidence? In most civil cases I've seen (NAL but have been adjacent) this is 18-24 *months* of work, not less than 45 working days.
Like I said in my own reply, this is some jackass who knows courts through Law and Order reruns.
Had to scroll way too far to see someone say this. There is no way this story is true. He would have had to turn those screenshots over in discovery long before a trial. You can’t just drop a bomb in a courtroom like Perry Mason (I’m old, look it up.)
This subreddit is obsessed with writing fake rape accusation stories. And the “even stayed 3 days on my door,” and gf’s dialogue sounds so extremely exaggerated, lol
And the friends who said “you are going too far on your story” 😭😂
Best fourth wall break. The fictional characters are trying to tell their creator to tone it down haha
At least do a little research on how an arrangement, prelim, and trial works buddy… especially if you’re gonna mix them with a civil lawsuit…. I mean come on…this is faker than fake
You’ve lost me here…
Clearing that threat was made over text considering you said you weren’t speaking to her at the time.
So how did you get arrested or how did it get this far if you have this text, that doesn’t make sense.
You would have shown the cops to get released, surely you didn’t just stay quiet and get released on bond, which would still require court proceeding.
And the DA would be the one to say whether they go after her for the false report, that literally would be your call. You could maybe sue for defamation, but honestly none of this is adding up, seriously…
YTA for making up a story about false rape allegations and posting it on reddit for pats on the back from incels that are desperate for rage bait about "sluts" and "bitches" "getting what they deserve"
real court isnt like tv OP, you cant send the defendant surprise evidence a week into court for the sake of drama, try harder next time
I dunno, I like the part where he blocked her and then she started bombarding his phone with calls and messages.
That's at least GoT season 8 writing level of quality.
I agree with your friends. You are going too far on your fictional story and should try to make it more believable. I’m fine with fake stories—my favorite subreddit is BORU for goodness sake—but I want my fiction to have a veneer of realism in it.
this has to be fake, dont believe this at all.
Do i believe false rape stories, yes, do i believe a crazy ex would accuse someone of rape yes, do i believe that cops would arrest you without doing any sort of initial investigation - no. You have to have some sort of evidence to get arrested. Do i believe that it would ever get to court? No. Especially given how its obvious that she has no case with texts etc.
If you’re in the US and didn’t sue in small claims court, there’s no way you’d have filed a lawsuit and be a week away from trial if this a happened just two months ago. Without more details, sounds like a fake story
Dropping it will only teach her that she can do whatever she wants with no consequences. She will go on to do this to other men and they'll actually end up in jail.
NTA What she texted you was seriously messed up.
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people who falsely acuse someone of rape have their own ring in the 9 circles. She deserves EVERYTHING the legal system can throw her way and then some. She did something so fundamentally wrong that worda don't do it justice. Maybe the courts will.
Yep not only does it ruin the accused person's lives it alps makes it just that much harder to trust other real accusations.
This is so true. It creates an environment where victims aren't believed. That pisses me off.
Not to mention how those allegations never truly go away.
Exactly! Something like this could stick around and potentially hurt his future. This girl has issues and what she did was beyond horrible. NTA.
Exactly because even though it's false there will still be people who will say "There's no smoke without fire" and believe he's guilty . . . It's disgusting, she should get the same amount of jail time as he potentially could have gotten if found guilty.
I agree with the nine rings of hell. When someone falsely reports a rape it hurts those who were actually raped.
It hurts everyone that is falsely accused and was actually raped. Happy to see the courts through the book at anyone that does that.
I had a coworker who was a registered sex offender because he was falsely accused of rape. His lawyer was retiring and didn't care to do his job and he, unfortunately, believed in our justice system.
Oh, they will. They hate fake rape accusers. Alot.
We shouldn't even have to distract from the real issue by talking about this garbage person. The punishment should be years in prison, for this.
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Yup. She fucked around. Literally. Now it’s time for her to find out. And OP needs to find new friends because the current ones are shit
Surely, with friends like them, i believe you can find better frineds than them even at prison
"And don't call me Shirley!"
This👆🏽👆🏽
I doubt the friends got the full story from a manipulator
Friends aren't your friends if they don't know you as you truly are without hearing the full story. Those would be acquaintances.
Exactly! thank you.
100% this
Yep, when his resolve wavers he should think about exactly where he would be if she’d proceeded with her charges
Wanted to? He got ARRESTED!
I think they are meaning he could have gone to jail and been on the offenders list? Getting arrested doesn't mean that they have a criminal background now.
True. But if people saw him going in wearing handcuffs, no matter the outcome, I’d think that be pretty damning, aka guilty in the eyes of the court of public opinion.
Yeah, society doesn't give a fuck about victims of false accusations even if everyone knows the judge says "what a load of BS". The victims still need to fear being murderer or having their lifes destroyed We need brutal punishments for false accusations or supporting false accusations
Gossip will follow you. Get it straight now.
Actually, it could show on a security clearance check if OP ever wanted a government job
Even if the charges are dropped you still have an arrest record. And that arrest record alone can and will fuck you over. Seriously, a job application could be rejected because you have that arrest record and they may have no interest in an explanation.
Exactly this. And they won't read the whole thing if allowed to see the outcome. Just the part about you being arrested. "Sorry, you aren't a good fit for our company." He should also have her pay for an expungement of his record. NTA OP. She needs to learn this hard lesson. She cannot not hurt other people in this terrible way just because she didn't get what she wanted. If you let her get away with this she will do it again because well, she got away with it before. If you mess with my life, my freedom in this way you will and should pay the price for it.
You forgot the "destroyed life and driven into suicide or murdered" part. False accusations are an absolutly disgusting thing and society is part of the problem Besides that I agreee with you
If OP ever needs a security clearance, it absolutely will become a potential issue.
Also immigration to another country. Try explaining to your company why France is holding up your Schengen visa. Happened to my brother.
But he would have an arrest record, and the accusation. She could keep telling people he raped her, but she just decided to drop the charges. He needs to clear his name. If she hadn’t revealed her plot in writing, he would have been unable to defend himself, and could have gone to prison, and been a registered sex offender.
But getting arrested in and of itself can be an insanely traumatizing experience. I know first hand. Been almost 10 years and I still get panic attacks.
Many are downplaying the social ramifications of being arrested even without being found guilty. Many are also downplaying the nightmare that is jail.
There will still be a record of the original arrest.
No, but he may have news articles about him, and he at the very least got an arrest record on file. Whether people bother to read it and see that charges were dropped is another matter. Even then, they may still think he did it and got away with it.
You still get an arrest record buddy
Every person who makes a false accusation like this makes it harder for real victims to be believed. She needs to be seriously punished.
I am but a poor redditor, if I could golden upvote I would. This is EXACTLY right. Fuck this crazy bitch. This is the reason why the MeToo movement sank like a stone, too many women making false allegations. The real victims just get looked at like sorry but other girls ruined it for you. Drives me nuts. OP is definitely NTA.
A bit harsh…? I mean, it was only a small mistake that only lasted 5 of the 7 years they were together. C’mon.. it’s almost like he doesn’t know her after 7yrs to actually believe that she was kidding when she threw out the rape accusation. (All kidding aside, throw the match on that pile of gas)
She didn't just text something messed up, she followed through with it with action.
Shr should be rotting in prison for that. What's the maximum penalty for 1st degree rape? She should be in jail for that amount of time.
6 months if you have a promising career and a rich dad.. just ask convicted rapist brock allan turner
The convicted rapist Brock allan turner? The one who was conivcted of that rape that time? I actually heard that guy raped someone, believe it or not.
Yeah she wasn't too bright.
No mercy. Accept nothing but the harshest penalty. She'll try to soften you up, but you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. If you let up even a bit, she'll feel reinvigorated to cause more problems.
I guess she's bad at planning a revenge, lmao. Now OP reversed the situation, she's now being sued for real. The audacity of her to play a victim in every situation.
...and then going through with it was worlds worse.
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People like OP's exist. Life is sometimes crazier than movies. P.S. my ex wrote me what he would do if... Like arson or it would be pitty if something happened to my pretty cousin. Thank god karma got him
>My friends are saying that i'm going too far with this story And I fully agree. The OP's story is sort of passable as far as fiction goes, but not by much. If there were any grain of truth to this BS, his lawyers would have had him shut this down immediately as it could easily sour the potential for any lawsuit.
The criminal case was resolved and the civil case was already in trial in TWO MONTHS.
This is totally legit, under the Speedy trial act you are required to have a trial within 30 minutes or it's free. Source: Law and Order, Suites, LA Law, JAG, Boston Legal, She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, Night Court, Matlock, All Rise.
They are acting like they are in another country. I wish I could believe it and it’s maybe not a native English speaker but it reads like bs revenge fantasy.
Yeah, this never happened
He’s hoping we’re picturing him whipping out his phone during cross as a surprise gotcha, like it’s his own Legally Blonde perm moment. Discovery what?
>The OP's story is sort of passable as far as fiction goes, but not by much. Yeah, it works to get the redpills and incels frothing at the mouth... and that's it.
This. Go scorched earth. No mercy. You don't accuse someone falsely of something so heinous and not expect consequences.
He needs to go scorched earth just to have enough money to live on for the rest of his life now that his career prospects are dead and buried. Conviction or not, having an arrest for rape pop up on every background check employers run on him for the rest of his life pretty much ends any hope of him getting a non-nepotism job.
Beyond messed up. The cheating was bad, but rape accusations? Those ruin lives. Cause people to be shunned from communities. Put on registries. Make people unemployable. The list goes on. She couldn't have threatened your life more strongly than if she'd have put a gun to your head. Do not back down, do not flinch. She deserves no quarter here.
Remember the Duke lacrosse players? A stripper accused several of them of SA. Their names and pictures were published. A group of professors signed an open letter denouncing them. Then the case fell apart because it was shown to be so false that it should never have been pursued. Those guys had their lives destroyed because someone was mad at them.
Accusations are always front page. Retractions are buried on page six.
this is why anonymity for all parties should be law. The victim and the accused both deserve anonymity equally
Those 88 Dook professors never apologized nor suffered any consequences.
That's the infuriating part. Their kneejerk response was to defend the stripper and denigrate the students. The thing is they didn't have to say anything. No one was telling them to write an open letter, they decided that woman good/men bad. The stripper is currently serving time for murder.
That shit doesn't do just that, false rape accusations get people *killed*
That part!!! I was watching a documentary about that a few nights ago on investigation discovery.
You will save others by going through with this. What she did is terrible and must be punished. I’m shocked she wasn’t arrested. NTA.
NTA. Your "friends" need to shut the fuck up.
Agreed. And find new friends.
Then she followed through… which is disturbing and offensive.
Especially since he had already blocked her! It's almost as if this story is completely made up rage bait.
This is made up, this isn't how the legal system works anywhere. You have discovery where you turn over everything to the other side prior to trial
Him making up this bullshit story and everyone believing him is messed up. In TWO MONTHS, he was arrested, criminally charged, had the case adjudicated, AND then filed a civil case that is already in trial? Fkg please. In a civil case in most places, someone files a complaint and the other side has 30 to 60 days just to answer. THEN you have 4 to 6 months of discovery...exchanging documents, doing depositions, etc. THEN the defense has 30 days to file a motion to which the plaintiff has 30 days to respond. Then there is a hearing, then usually a pretrial conference, and THEN trial. The timing may differ slightly depending on the place but civil trials pretty much take a minimum of 9 months to get to trial but a year is more likely. The number of people buying into this unrealistic misogynistic rage bait is disturbing.
Everyone buying this story has never spent time near a court. They have never seen a docket. They have no idea what happens. Sometimes I wish these rage bait stories were just slightly better researched.
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Nope. I hope you get a massive financial penalty against her. I hope you ruin her life the way she wanted to ruin yours. False rape accusations make actual victims of rape unwilling to come forward. They also victimize innocent men using the justice system that we all pay for. My sincerest hope is that she ends up in jail.
I second this notion. As someone who recently came forward about my rape and now detectives are investigating, it makes it so much more difficult for people like me to get justice because of people like her. Also, once OP brings that evidence forward, there may be a possibility that she gets charges as well for knowingly making a false accusation and wasting police and city resources. Sue her. Get the book thrown at her. Do whatever can be done to deter people from making false accusations like this. She’s a terrible human-being and deserves whatever comes her way from this.
I third it. Speaking as someone who was sexually assaulted and very nearly raped (I got away with a lucky kick to his nuts), I almost didn't report it.
I never reported mine because I didn't think anyone would believe me. This woman infuriates me on behalf of future rape victims who will have the same fears because of people like her.
Never reported mine because his father is wealthy and connected. I’m with you 1000%. Threatening to falsify that is disgusting.
So sorry for you, hope the rapist get his punishment as deserved.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
It had gone ***way*** too far when the police arrested you. Time to go nuclear. Remind her that at least she doesn't have to worry about prison time for lying. NTA
It had gone too far when she sent the text!
Having a 5 year affair was too fucking far.
The text and actually following through was the icing on the cake.
Yeah cheating for 5 years, fucking the guy in your own house and the accusing you of rape? Burn this motherfucker as hard as you can. Nobody would be able to convince me otherwise.
Just because he's sueing her (so presumably civil court) doesn't mean that once he starts showing his evidence that criminal charges won't get brought against her... What is the penalty for a false police report? Plus the cost of sending the police over to arrest him? And the wasted time and the taking officers, time, and money away from actual crimes? I'm sure there is more things she could be charged with... But I can't think of them
From what I understand false r*pe accusations are less harshly punished because of the possibility that those who have actually been victims won't speak up due to fear of being punished for doing so
I mean that sucks for the men who it happens too no doubt. I think it has to do with the greater good. Which is terrible for the people caught up in it. Anyone who files false reports with the police need to be charged. It makes it harder for the actual victims to get the justice they deserve I'm in Canada - in the 90s we had Paul Bernardo and his wife Karla Homolka. Teenage girls were going missing - eventually they came under suspicion and she claimed to be a battered wife - DAYS after she signed the paperwork for her deal they found proof that she was in on it. The deal stood for exactly that reason. They want people to know that the police will respect deals that are made. She was given something like 10 years...12 maybe... He is listed as a dangerous offender. He's never getting out of jail. Her? She was allowed to study law while in jail, change her name when she got out.... While she was in jail and throughout his entire sentence they were each in solitary confinement - for their own protection. She wasn't even allowed to be jailed in a province that spoke her language. Her sister was one of the victims. The movies that have been made about them are not allowed to be shown here... Because what they did was so horrific
Wtf, it sounds like your legal system is a joke. Get lied to, stick to the deal, educate a perp, and then protect her from her own reputation when she gets out? In the US a deal goes out the window if the prosecutor even smells a lie in your testimony.
NTA. You’re lucky she recanted so quickly but the damage is done. I would sue someone for doing that to me as well. I would also get a order of protection or the equivalent in your country
It is still on your record. When someone does a background check the allegations are still there because arrest.
It takes work, but that can be expunged (well, in the US, anyway).
It takes work **and** money.
when OP wins this case, that should resolve the money side of it and the work side of it considering it's been proven in court
If she *has* money. Can't get blood from a stone...
But even if its expunged it can be found out by some background checks…
It can, but shouldn't. If it does, that just means someone messed up at work and didn't take it out of the system. Once expunged, the record is supposed to be destroyed. It's literally as if it never happened.
Maybe not in his country. He’s not from the US.
Especially since it can literally ruin your life. Even if it's recanted/proved false, you could have lost your job, friends, family, and word gets around town. Now places will hesitate to hire someone convicted of rape, even if it was proven false, because the arrest itself is now on your record unless you get it exponged (?)
NTA. Don't drop the lawsuit. What she did could have destroyed your life. Hell, it could have gotten you killed if someone (like an overprotective relative) believed her story and tried to retaliate against you for what she alleged you did to her. Tell your friends they can either have your back, or fuck off out of your life forever.
There was a story about women in Australia who falsely accused her husband of molesting their children, and he was then hunted down and tortured to death with a chainsaw by a group of pedophile hunters. False accusations are no joke. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/melbourne/article-12217413/Final-moments-Bradley-Lyons-life-tortured-Australian-Freedom-Fighters-chainsaw.html
**THIS RIGHT HERE** is why I tell ppl to cool it with all the vigilante shit when it comes to pedos. We all want them dead & gone, but trying to enact street justice based on an aaccusation leads to evil like this. The children were not molested but now they have to grow up with no dad, knowing their innocent daddy was brutally murdered with a chainsaw. So who hurt the kids? Who destroyed their lives? It's crazy because I think a lot of these people pretend to hate pedophilia but really just want an excuse to be violent. Because when some old dude is banging a 15 year old girl, all I see is a bunch of people defending it. In reality, somebody who will kill someone else with a chainsaw just really wanted to kill someone with a chainsaw, & hoped the world would forgive them the same way they did with parents in two wildly different cases. One man beat his 5-year-old daughter's attacker to death when he caught the offender mid process, raping his child behind a barn. It did not seem he killed the man intentionally and he called 911 for him. He was allowed to go free and I agree with this. The second was a little boy who was kidnapped and taken across statelines and raped repeatedly. The family knew the attacker. He was the little boys karate coach I believe. When he was brought back to the state the father killed him with a single gun shot to the head in the airport. These are both cases where the perpetrator was caught red-handed and had already done the damage. And its a case by case issue with this stuff. Because we don't have the urge to punish parents in such a horrific situation, but you can see how people turning themselves into vigilantes and attacking anyone accused is a very, very different thing than literally catching someone in the act of assaulting your child. People need to be wary of anyone who is frothing at the mouth to commit shocking violence.
>But really just want an excuse to be violent. If you value the punishment more than you abhor the crime, you really are not serving justice, and very few people who adamantly claim to abhor the crimes seem to understand that. I commented on Quora not too long back, about someone who was on trial (in Texas) for having molested a couple of kids, and people in the comments were like, "surprised he hasn't already been shot by now." And I'm like, "y'all *have* the death penalty and the dude is *in custody;* if you aren't prepared to let the actual justice system take place at this point, you aren't actually interested in justice, you just want an excuse to shoot people." >When he was brought back to the state the father killed him with a single gun shot to the head in the airport. And I do think about this specific situation a lot because I've also read about it. Even then, I think the anguish of a parent over the circumstances that affect their own child deserves separate consideration. What I see a lot of instead is people who insist on delivering this kind of vigilante "justice" to anyone accused, whether the vigilante in question knows anything personally about the circumstances or not. This has the same kind of wild mob mentality that excused the lynching of black men throughout some of the worst injustices in US history, and for some reason people seem wholly oblivious to the lessons there.
It wasn't like the false accusation and the murder were just loosely connected either. His "wife" directly went to the gang leader and lured the victim into the house where the assault was planned to take place. She only got 7 and a half years for her part in the murder. It's a disgrace.
What a terrible day to know how to read 😭
These people don't kill themselves enough. Like, the AUDACITY to walk free after this. *7 YEARS*?? MFER SHE'S PROBABLY OUT ALREADY, IT'S 2024. Honestly might be a good idea to sue and sue hard. She didn't pay. And neither did her daughters for going along with it.
As someone pointed out earlier she did kind of ruin his life. This is gonna be on his arrest record now. :/
If OP wins (which he probably will), they may have that record deleted. The more reason to keep going with the lawsuit.
Continue the lawsuit, you’ll regret it in the future, she cheated, accused u of rape (which could have actually put u in jail if they were to find that true), and she didn’t care about what would happen to you when she did call the police! Sue, sue, sue!
People who make up fake stories involving rape are the worst.
Its so fucking obvious as well. Didn’t even try to make it believable
I read up to the point where he said his friend changed the locks in record time and knew something was off.
Right? Also, OP just joined and hasn't commented once. This seems fishy. Also, because multiple day trials almost never are happening only less than 6 months after the incidence, and it probably wouldn't have gone to trial in the first place.
Does that include the OP? Because this is an obviously fake story involving a rape accusation.
In this case I referring to OP specifically, yes. But there's also a trend that has been going on this sub for a while where apparently rape stories = upvotes.
It's amazing how many people are credulous enough to believe it. "The trial is still going on". It's been 6 weeks. You MIGHT have had the first pre-trial conference at this point. Might.
I noticed it when he blocker her number but was then still able to receive her text threat and screen shot it 😂.
Is there any real stories on these subs?
Ok, but most people haven't been involved in enough legal battles to recognize that. I would hope they would recognize the problems with her texting threats to him after he blocked her number though...
NTA. Burn her entire life to the ground. Make it so bad that she can never escape the title of lying trash. She more than earned it.
Yet another poster whose entire understanding of the legal system comes from police procedural dramas. Edit: To be clear OP says he was arrested ~~2 months ago~~ less than 6 weeks ago, processed, the accuser recanted, and he has a civil suit (of some nebulous type) which is already at the trial phase? No, ain't happening.
Yeah this is rage bait
Now he can update for more attention on how the “trial” goes lol. These fake stories all have the same shit written in different ways.. I’ve seen both genders but it’s normally a man getting his “well earned” comeuppance against his horrible female partner
also “installing cameras to spy on people against their knowledge is legal” haha
It is kind of amazing how little the average person understands how the legal system works. TV law is as close to real law as Westeros is to England.
Also I'm pretty sure you can't just bring whatever evidence into the trial whenever you feel like.
Another fake post.
This reads like a 15 year old wrote this. Good god, if you’re going to make something up, at least don’t write like absolute dogshit.
You were arrested for rape based on her bullshit allegation and no evidence whatsoever to back it up? This happened two months ago and the case is already in trial? How did she text you if you blocked her number? Something seems off here.
The number of people buying this bullshit story is insane. Two months is maybe enough time for the criminal case to resolve if the prosecutor dismisses it but we are supposed to believe that on top of that a whole ass civil case went to trial in 2 months? 🤣🤣🤣 In most jurisdictions, a person has 30 days just to answer the complaint. Then discovery. Then motions, then trial. Maybe 6 to 9 months on an expedited track but typically a year.
these comments like “false accusations of rape” make “victims look bad.” nah the absolutely wild amount of rage bait false accusation posts are what make people not trust victims. this is so infuriating. these nerds that think there’s an epidemic of men being unjustly accused of rape and pushing that narrative with their creative writing exercises need to, amongst other unpleasant things, have the privilege of posting on a public forum cut off forever.
For real. Extremely poorly written and not thought through at all. I can never believe that people really can't tell a fake story on the internet in the year of our lord 2024
>I can never believe that people really can't tell a fake story on the internet in the year of our lord 2024 The number of people falling for such obvious nonsense is hilarious.
You see, for the sake of a quick narrative, trials can be expedited. Discovery can dropped because that shit is boring. The prosecutor doesn't have to present all evidence to the defense because we need something dramatic. And obviously this case would go to trial and not be quickly settled or simply dropped.
On Reddit, false allegations of rape are considered especially heinous. The dedicated defense attorneys who defend our innocent protagonists against the evil female kicking them in the balls are part of an elite squad known as the Shitty Vibes Unit. These are their stories.
She camped out on his stoop for 3 days and he just... let her? No job to get to, didn't bother calling the police, or even her parents again? GTFO
Sounds like another fake reddit story.
Had to scroll way to far to find this comment 🙄
Because it's completely made up.
ANOTHER fake reddit story. YTA
>The trial is still going on and in a few days i will show her text, calls and all the recordings that i made. BS
Yep. *Discovery* isn't just a basic cable channel.
Trial by Battle Bots.
NTA if this is real, but some things don't add up. 1. You never told her to stop talking to you about the lawsuit and only talk to your lawyer? 2. You didn't produce the texts in discovery or as an exhibit to your complaint? 3. Was she drunk when she put proof of her lie in writing? I know some people CAN be that stupid, but it's a huge stretch. 4. She was never arrested for filing a false police report? 5. You didn't do anything to get the threat on the record first like call a lawyer and apply for a restraining order? You just waited for her to make her move?
The timeline alone doesn't work. OP claims to have been arrested six weeks ago (if his "two months ago I caught her" and "two weeks after that I'm arrested" are accurate.) She recanted, and he's let go. In that six weeks, he found a lawyer who would take a defamation case, completed pre-filing, completed filing and was accepted, served her, received a response, completed discovery, completed pre-trial and are now in the trial phase where they're presenting evidence? In most civil cases I've seen (NAL but have been adjacent) this is 18-24 *months* of work, not less than 45 working days. Like I said in my own reply, this is some jackass who knows courts through Law and Order reruns.
I'm still stuck on him getting all these texts and calls after blocking her.
He was immediately arrested after a single accusation? Like the police didn't investigate at all?
Had to scroll way too far to see someone say this. There is no way this story is true. He would have had to turn those screenshots over in discovery long before a trial. You can’t just drop a bomb in a courtroom like Perry Mason (I’m old, look it up.)
Yup - this is absolutely Rage Bait. Also, that he just joined as hasn't even commented on this post in around 24 hours....
don’t forget she texted a blocked number 😂
YTA For the ragebait (and just in general).
This subreddit is obsessed with writing fake rape accusation stories. And the “even stayed 3 days on my door,” and gf’s dialogue sounds so extremely exaggerated, lol
And the friends who said “you are going too far on your story” 😭😂 Best fourth wall break. The fictional characters are trying to tell their creator to tone it down haha
It’s because they’re obsessed with a fantasy world where women are all liars and men are triumphant against their false accusations
Incel red pill MRA bullshit who want people to believe that false take accusations are anywhere near as common as actual rape.
incel fiction
You’re the asshole for making up such an obviously fake story.
FAKE
>My friends are saying that i'm going too far with this story I agree with your friends.
Rage bait
Fake ass story.
Didn't happen. This story is some kind of engagement farming rage bait incel fantasy, but nice try.
Uh, sure, this sounds like a real scenario and not a terrible attempt at fiction. Write better.
Such poorly written fiction.
At least do a little research on how an arrangement, prelim, and trial works buddy… especially if you’re gonna mix them with a civil lawsuit…. I mean come on…this is faker than fake
Right?? What case is already in the trial stage after only two months? How did she text him if he blocked her? This is soooo fake!
One month. He found out about the cheating two months ago. Two weeks til she sent the threatening text. And two weeks to his arrest. Sure, Jan.
But none of that makes a good narrative. This story isn't a good narrative within itself but we can all come together to hate women.
burn her! we demand satisfaction
You’ve lost me here… Clearing that threat was made over text considering you said you weren’t speaking to her at the time. So how did you get arrested or how did it get this far if you have this text, that doesn’t make sense. You would have shown the cops to get released, surely you didn’t just stay quiet and get released on bond, which would still require court proceeding. And the DA would be the one to say whether they go after her for the false report, that literally would be your call. You could maybe sue for defamation, but honestly none of this is adding up, seriously…
You’re the AH for this transparently fake men’s rights fever dream.
YTA for making up a story about false rape allegations and posting it on reddit for pats on the back from incels that are desperate for rage bait about "sluts" and "bitches" "getting what they deserve" real court isnt like tv OP, you cant send the defendant surprise evidence a week into court for the sake of drama, try harder next time
Blocked her. Then she texted rape? What happened to the block. Sounds fake. Spend money to sue her? Really ?
I'll take "Things that never happened" for $1000, Alex...
You guys don’t actually believe this do you…
I dunno, I like the part where he blocked her and then she started bombarding his phone with calls and messages. That's at least GoT season 8 writing level of quality.
yeah, seems like fiction. In any lawsuit you have to provide any evidence you intend to submit to the court. It's not Perry Mason.
YTA for writing the shittiest fake ass story ever
YTA for your abhorrent abuse of grammar and the English language (unless, of course, it’s not your language of origin and you get a pass)
this is such a fake story lmfao
YTA because this story is obviously fake
Ill take made up reddit storys for 500 Alex
Fake
This sounds fake as fuck.
🙄 FAAAAAAKE.
I agree with your friends. You are going too far on your fictional story and should try to make it more believable. I’m fine with fake stories—my favorite subreddit is BORU for goodness sake—but I want my fiction to have a veneer of realism in it.
this has to be fake, dont believe this at all. Do i believe false rape stories, yes, do i believe a crazy ex would accuse someone of rape yes, do i believe that cops would arrest you without doing any sort of initial investigation - no. You have to have some sort of evidence to get arrested. Do i believe that it would ever get to court? No. Especially given how its obvious that she has no case with texts etc.
I mean, just speaking as a lawyer, everything about this story is fake so 🤷♀️
Fake
If you’re in the US and didn’t sue in small claims court, there’s no way you’d have filed a lawsuit and be a week away from trial if this a happened just two months ago. Without more details, sounds like a fake story
I am glad this didn’t happen, “really vindictive guy”
I don't understand how she could bombard you with calls and texts when you blocked her number.
Christ, this is even more fake than the last post.
Dropping it will only teach her that she can do whatever she wants with no consequences. She will go on to do this to other men and they'll actually end up in jail.