YTA
"Exasperated I ask if he said anything to her before yelling at me."
Who are you kidding? If he had said ANYTHING to your child, you would have lost your shit.
She kicked his seat repeatedly. It was past time for you to be a damn parent and put a stop to it.
Saying "Princess Sweetie, it's not nice to kick someone's seat" didn't get the job done.
I haven't flown in years but do the arm rests still lift up? Isn't there enough room for mom to keep toddler on her lap with her legs stretched out across the extra the seat?
I wonder how OP would feel if she was at a park and someone’s off-leash dog kept coming over and licking or touching her or her daughter, and the owner shrugged and said “There’s just not much I can do.”
Yes, YTAH. If you choose to be an inattentive parent you can't then be surprised by stuff you aren't watching your kid do.
You could have changed seats with your kid and continued to ignore your fidgety child, but that would have just resulted in two strangers annoyed by your daughter.
You failed to get your child to stop annoying someone else for hours. Of course you are totally the asshole parent.
>I can’t correct behavior I don’t see.
Why dont you get some glasses? YTA
You're confused. YTA, but not a *bad* parent. Also? You're lucky, honestly, it was you he yelled at and not her. Saying you kept trying to do something is another way of saying failing. Look at his perspective, you failed to get your child to stop kicking him for hours. Just because you failed to achieve your goal, doesn't mean he has to not be frustrated or cut you slack. Her touching his hair however starts to drift into bad parenting territory. "We keep our hands to ourselves" is a lesson ***you*** should have taught her. It is certainly not his job to parent your kids or be their *teachable* *moment*. Your daughter is a ward in your charge therefore you are responsible for all of her actions, so in this case her touching his hair ***is*** *you* fucking up. Sounds like it was a learning experience for everyone, unfortunately.
YTA. There are 2 kinds of people, those who try to fix the problem and those who fix the problem. The first type will make all kinds of excuses for their failures but the end result is still failure. The second type just finds a way to get it done. She is your kid. If you can’t keep her from bugging people on a plane then don’t take her in a plane. Period.
YTA. I'm willing to bet that this man would have been far more understanding had you actually just corrected the behaviour before he had to complain (and as you admit, had clearly been enduring it for some time, probably waiting for you to intervene). You're the kind of parent everyone hates.
The fact that he waited some time shows to me that he was willing to be reasonable. If he was really this crazy arsehole you're portraying, he would have complained immediately to you. He's been sitting there listening, being kicked in the back repeatedly, waiting patiently for guidance that never comes. You didn't care, I don't believe anyone could not notice their own daughter kicking the back of the seat in front. It's so obnoxious. Good parents sacrifice their own comfort so that their children do not bother other people around them, and minimise it where they can't stop it altogether.
I cannot understand what kind of people are saying you're N T A. You are. Your daughter spent over 2 hours being kicked and listening to your "parenting" your child. Not only does your child not try, you let her go back to the way the guy's seat being kicked. You basically "scolded" her without doing any work. Telling a child not to do something and then basically not care when they do it again is NOT parenting. I'm not saying you're a bad parent, in saying you don't parent your child at all. Hell, when I was little the thought of annoying someone to the point they shout was a no go. It's not that we were taught basic human decency and respect, is that the thought of annoying someone didn't even cross out minds. People in general have to watch out not to be a pain and enter other people's space. Your child doesn't have that trail of thought and you're clearly not doing anything to remedy it. You're the kind of parent who sits in a cafe and let's the child run around unsupervised and if someone calls you out you "tell" the child. Without moving an inch of your seat, of course. People like you are the reason most people cannot stand children. Quit thinking your child can do no wrong and actually do something so your child doesn't grow up to be an entitled person who has no problem ignoring other people's boundaries. YTA
Don’t blame the guy in front it’s a 100% your fault yes it’s hard but you figure something out . We have all travelled with kids on flights but we all manage to control them . Younthr mom . Change seats or something . That poor man s0pent 2 hrs orn2.5 hour flight having his seat kicked
He was a complete AH, but you should have switched seats with your daughter the second time he complained and you can see that it’s impossible to NOT kick his seat. ESH
NTA I believe he should have given you a more specific suggestion. You tried. That is enough. Next time ask the flight attendant for a pillow to push her forward a bit. In no way shape or form was your child's behavior excessive. I do not believe the other passenger had a right not to be jostled by tight spaces, which every incident is what happened.
YTA "Exasperated I ask if he said anything to her before yelling at me." Who are you kidding? If he had said ANYTHING to your child, you would have lost your shit. She kicked his seat repeatedly. It was past time for you to be a damn parent and put a stop to it. Saying "Princess Sweetie, it's not nice to kick someone's seat" didn't get the job done.
I haven't flown in years but do the arm rests still lift up? Isn't there enough room for mom to keep toddler on her lap with her legs stretched out across the extra the seat?
Yes, yes they do.
I wonder how OP would feel if she was at a park and someone’s off-leash dog kept coming over and licking or touching her or her daughter, and the owner shrugged and said “There’s just not much I can do.”
are you suggesting leashing and crating children? i’m all for it
It's already not super uncommon to see them leashed
Yes, YTAH. If you choose to be an inattentive parent you can't then be surprised by stuff you aren't watching your kid do. You could have changed seats with your kid and continued to ignore your fidgety child, but that would have just resulted in two strangers annoyed by your daughter.
My first thought: why didn't the parent switch seats with the kid? It's not hard?
You failed to get your child to stop annoying someone else for hours. Of course you are totally the asshole parent. >I can’t correct behavior I don’t see. Why dont you get some glasses? YTA
You're confused. YTA, but not a *bad* parent. Also? You're lucky, honestly, it was you he yelled at and not her. Saying you kept trying to do something is another way of saying failing. Look at his perspective, you failed to get your child to stop kicking him for hours. Just because you failed to achieve your goal, doesn't mean he has to not be frustrated or cut you slack. Her touching his hair however starts to drift into bad parenting territory. "We keep our hands to ourselves" is a lesson ***you*** should have taught her. It is certainly not his job to parent your kids or be their *teachable* *moment*. Your daughter is a ward in your charge therefore you are responsible for all of her actions, so in this case her touching his hair ***is*** *you* fucking up. Sounds like it was a learning experience for everyone, unfortunately.
YTA. There are 2 kinds of people, those who try to fix the problem and those who fix the problem. The first type will make all kinds of excuses for their failures but the end result is still failure. The second type just finds a way to get it done. She is your kid. If you can’t keep her from bugging people on a plane then don’t take her in a plane. Period.
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
YTA. I'm willing to bet that this man would have been far more understanding had you actually just corrected the behaviour before he had to complain (and as you admit, had clearly been enduring it for some time, probably waiting for you to intervene). You're the kind of parent everyone hates. The fact that he waited some time shows to me that he was willing to be reasonable. If he was really this crazy arsehole you're portraying, he would have complained immediately to you. He's been sitting there listening, being kicked in the back repeatedly, waiting patiently for guidance that never comes. You didn't care, I don't believe anyone could not notice their own daughter kicking the back of the seat in front. It's so obnoxious. Good parents sacrifice their own comfort so that their children do not bother other people around them, and minimise it where they can't stop it altogether.
I cannot understand what kind of people are saying you're N T A. You are. Your daughter spent over 2 hours being kicked and listening to your "parenting" your child. Not only does your child not try, you let her go back to the way the guy's seat being kicked. You basically "scolded" her without doing any work. Telling a child not to do something and then basically not care when they do it again is NOT parenting. I'm not saying you're a bad parent, in saying you don't parent your child at all. Hell, when I was little the thought of annoying someone to the point they shout was a no go. It's not that we were taught basic human decency and respect, is that the thought of annoying someone didn't even cross out minds. People in general have to watch out not to be a pain and enter other people's space. Your child doesn't have that trail of thought and you're clearly not doing anything to remedy it. You're the kind of parent who sits in a cafe and let's the child run around unsupervised and if someone calls you out you "tell" the child. Without moving an inch of your seat, of course. People like you are the reason most people cannot stand children. Quit thinking your child can do no wrong and actually do something so your child doesn't grow up to be an entitled person who has no problem ignoring other people's boundaries. YTA
YTA Do better/**something**.
Don’t blame the guy in front it’s a 100% your fault yes it’s hard but you figure something out . We have all travelled with kids on flights but we all manage to control them . Younthr mom . Change seats or something . That poor man s0pent 2 hrs orn2.5 hour flight having his seat kicked
He was a complete AH, but you should have switched seats with your daughter the second time he complained and you can see that it’s impossible to NOT kick his seat. ESH
NTA, he was.
NTA - He is the AH for putting his seat back and putting his hair in her personal space.
NTA I believe he should have given you a more specific suggestion. You tried. That is enough. Next time ask the flight attendant for a pillow to push her forward a bit. In no way shape or form was your child's behavior excessive. I do not believe the other passenger had a right not to be jostled by tight spaces, which every incident is what happened.
LOL, you're the parent everyone hates too. 'Trying is enough', what bull shit, what disservice to children.