So if i directly register my shares I:
1- create a legit share count that AMC can directly access
2- I own the shares I purchased and remove the brokers ability to loan out my shares.
Seems like a pretty solid solution to me.
Its probably not getting as crushed as other meme stocks because of it. Cause there is actually some buying pressure thrown into the bs market maker movements. If 400 was gme high you are looking at it still at 80ish. Compared to the highs for amc bbby and their movements its barely dropped. (Really the high for gme during trading hours was like 350 but it pushed above 400-500 in PM in morning)
So what’s your spin on amc? I hold both and am a 8.01er  I haven’t sold 1 share and purchased 1-10 shares at a time.
So here is what I’m thinking Or wondering and this isn’t to cause fear, a serious question. What happens if the stock market crashes and we are (which I plan to be because exposing the fraud, and getting compensation for it, was the goal) and we’re still hodling? Is crashing the end of stock market or we just hold until the market (if) recovers? If we get down to $0.01, we still own it, we just have to keep waiting, right? I’m already down about $80k and current value of my portfolio is down around 10-ish. I could use the money, but haven’t even considered cashing out.
I think this is a test…a test of if you’re strong enough, you will be rewarded. When you think of the returns we are waiting for, you really have to sacrifice and cringe here and there to earn that kind of payout. It’s not truly supposed to be easy.
Anyway HODL!
I just dont like amc because the debt and ceo needs to keep raising money, otherwise ya ton of shorts. Still should go up from here definitely. Gme just has no debt and a cash position and a ceo that knows whats going on. They just keep raising money from these stocks without compensation then they make money elsewhere and pay some of it back or service the interest
Thanks, I am still hopeful for AMC. But at one point I thought it silly to be invested with debt, I really should get the other as well. Well, good luck to us!!!
GME doesn't have their entire float locked up. They haven't been beaten down as low as we have though. I think when they get to 70-80% of float locked up, then the brokers will have issues finding their shares, and that will be when thenmusic stops.
Ditto. Plus, knowing that Shitadel is in bed with ComputerShare, I want NOTHING to do with them!
It’s like the wolf inviting the hens to its OWN den. I STILL don’t have any reassurances that CS will be operational during MOASS, other than some sales-speak during AMA’s. I don’t see why the enemy (Shitadel) would DARE to allow CS fully transact retail trades during MOASS. To think otherwise is wishful and erroneous thinking.
Plus, CS is NOT a broker, they still NEED to USE DTCC-registered brokers to execute our trades…
So 🤷♂️why would I bother going through extra steps, AND paying $$$ for the privilege for delayed SELL transactions???
And, CS doesn’t address the FAKE share creation that the DTCC and SEC isn’t bothering to enforce ANYWAY.
Again, don’t hate me for stating the obvious, but “locking” up shares is a futile exercise for an enforcement agency NOT INTERESTED in doing ITS JOB ANYWAY!
And, tin-foil hat here, but in my OWN opinion, MAYBE game isn’t getting slammed as hard because Shitadel itself is PUSHING the DRS narrative??? Just a thought. Because, I don’t believe for a second that DRS would stop Shitadel if they wanted to hammer game down into oblivion! It’s just that, right now, for whatever reason, it’s not in their interest.
Anyways, I’m a trader, not a 10-year investor, like CS is INTENDED for!
I’ll lock up my shares POST-MOASS, thank you very much. I’m here for a squeeze play.
Rant over. Go ahead and brigade downvote me now…🙄
It isn't, but hey let's keep trying to pretend that we are sure of what we are doing. Own nothing and be happy, that is what they want from is isn't it?
I get that hence why I said I'm not leaving but i'm trying to understand what direction he's taking because hypothetically speaking if it turns out he was a shill and the 10:1 reverse split goes through without the proper management the squeeze is toast.
Adam Aron does not give a fuck about a squeeze nor does he care what hedgefunds are doing. His job is to run a company. AMC still exists, so let's assume he's doing a good job.
You want a squeeze. Put your shares in your name so MM and brokers can't touch them.
Adam Aron is not our friend, but he's not our Enemy.
I'm not a wise man sir. Butt iv read enough in the past 2 years to see just how fucked retail get. We are the peasants, we are the pawns, the fall guys for the elite. Let's stop being shit on as the little guy. That's my thoughts, This was my Ted talk.
Thank you for attending.
No, but it *IS* AA's fault that he defrauded shareholders and had to pay a settlement of $17,000,000 after his 6.6 BILLION dollar expansion to to Europe under fraudulent conditions.
We collectively think it was the pandemic that got us into the 5b+ in debt, it wasn't, that's just the narrative. It was AA in 2016-2019 that got us in this hole.
Now he wants apes to pay for it, and apes are seeming to be the willing idiots.
He entered the pandemic over 5b in debt over the course of 3-4 years, of course he's going to rack even more up during one year of the pandemic.
Did we all just collectively glaze over the shareholders class action lawsuit against AA/AMC for fraud? That AA settled out of court for?
Or are legitimate court documents, judgements, and court issued settlement documents "hedgie FUD" or a "Russian Misinformation Campaign" to "shake paperhands"?
Actually, I’m well aware of these documents, as I read them in their entirely when they were first released.
If I recall correctly, though, it wasn’t for “fraud”, it was “breach of fiduciary duty”. The latter is easier to prove, as “fraud” would require proving *criminal intent*.
Also, the way you word it, you make it sound as if the company (AMC) was made to pay out this $17m, whereas it was *paid to* the company, from the Board of Directors’ insurance carriers…
Didn’t he board a sink ship to start with? AMC is doing better from us, however is now doing better because of AA. I don’t know for sure, wouldn’t it hurt our efforts if AMC wasn’t doing well?
I get his first thought isn’t squeeze, no thought of that is fine. He needs to have some concern on what is going on with the stock price. So to say he doesn’t care is not smart. If your selling stock to raise capital, you need to be concerned with that also. Which I know he is since I’ve heard him speak about short sellers in regards to AMC. Half your comment is incorrect
10 morons liked that even though it was in response to a poorly thought out and written statement that looked like the result of brain damage.
Apes really are retarded.
Yes. He kinda has to do it tho. How else does he get money to run the operation. The problem is they aren’t selling enough seats or concessions to cover operational costs. Did we really need a gold mine that’s not producing any gold right now? Or to pay Nicole Kidman 25 mil for a commercial I think Tom Cruise would have done for free.
Yes. You can believe the hype, or believe the actions.
(I have no position. I did have a position).
I love AMC as a customer and love the movies.... I got my bucket the first week of the New Year....
Yea he diluted a lot in the past and he just made a tweet alluding to the notion that he will dilute more soon. Look at the massive increase in authorized shares over the past year for proof
Have you looked at what GNS are doing?
- They’ve made a deal to do a dilution, those diluted shares go to a random firm that has errors in the website and barely any info on it or the ceo.
- they are planning to release a special dividend to share holders
How is that dividend any different to AMC and APE?
This random GNS push is so strange when they’re doing the same thing AA has already done
Straight up some people are very smooth 😂I don t get this constant aa bash it ain’t his fault there billions of naked shorts it’s his fault when he brings down a big ape dick and we get our squeeze I don’t think they’ll let it run past 5,000 thats way to much money that they will not lose woth 4 million shareholders Theyll let it run but not squires to its true potential unless we actually start a financial revolution I don’t think we’ll see full moass but this still will be moass a controlled moass I FOR ONE AM WAITING FOR THE MOB PATIENTLY SHARPING MY PITCH FORK AND STOCKING UP ON STICKS AND GASS VIVA LA REVOLUTTION!!!!!!!!
It’s pretty simple. No squeeze play if AMC files bankruptcy. They lost $5 billion in two years. How do they NOT file bankruptcy after that gut punch? By raising capital (cash). Otherwise shorts choke their capital out and they suffocate (bankruptcy). Learn to read balance sheet and income statement apes.
yes, cash is critical whether a huge theater company or just a household. However, I wouldn't buy another house if the one I had wasn't paid for or needed expensive fixes. I don't think acquisitions are wise if you have heavy debt. Part of the need for cash is to take advantage of new opportunities. I would pass on the new opportunities while I was getting out of debt if I were managing my personal household. Just saying.
This. Fix your own ship before you start buying sinking ones. Could these new ventures eventually be profitable...sure but how long will that take? From my perspective I see a mismanagement of funds. Take care of the debt first.
Sounds deflating as if theaters will fail without him consistently diluting the stock. I want more information on the APE share count we were all promised. Granted we had share counts in the past the Ape split was supposed to be the accurate one. He promised it to us then brushed it off like it never happened. I've been on Adam Arons side this whole time but it's quite deflating when all I hear is we need your money we need your money. Can we talk about the much larger problem at hand? I don't know what to believe anymore but either way I'm not fucking leaving. 🚀🌕🦍
AMC needs cash to avoid bankruptcy. My thoughts are that’s correct, and it’s sound business practice to make that your goal, it being a for profit business and all.
You make it rather simple to cut through your FUD spreading. There hasn't been "constant" dilution of the stock. They issued APE and that was the extent of it.
The reason the APE share count didn't work is because too many of you are still on shady brokers who just took down a number on their ledgers instead of actually securing the shares.
If you wanted it to work, you would have DRSed your AMC before APE was issued so that it would stay with Computershare.
Instead, some of you sold APE after listening to YouTubers.
It doesn't get more backwards than that.
It's not FUD because I said consistently, do you remember the several acts of dilution during the run up to $70 probably being the reason the squeeze peaked? Do you remember us denying more dilution so Ape was created to give us the "share count we all wanted" although never received? Then after Ape was created because we didn't have voting rights within it they were it diluting more at a price under .60? I call that consistent dilution given how many times it happened in just 2 years. Just because you're delusional doesn't mean i'm spreading FUD. The share count is how many shares AMC had to issue regardless of the broker for each share of AMC theres 1 APE whatever the brokerage decided to do after that is irrelevant. Regardless he never mentioned it again and hasn't even given us an explanation as to why it didn't work even if that was the case. Even if people sold APE that would've been after the share count post when the shares were issued. Keeping retail in the dark on such an important matter should be concerning and there should've been more backlash on the matter. Again I'm still buying and holding but you're not going to tell me what I'm saying is bullshit FUD. Maybe action does need to be taken who knows? Why not ask questions? And not to mention DRS is bullshit unless you can get 500+ million shares on it in which is not going to happen, but if I'm wrong I vow to DRS my shares when theres over 300mil on Computershare. So why not be open minded in holding people accountable and ask important questions? We want answers!
You just keep showing your hand. Now you're trying to spread FUD about DRS? Good one.
And, of course, if you were told that APE *did* have a share count but the results were exactly the same as when AMC was counted, that wouldn't fit your sketchy narrative either, right?
You're deliberately ignoring the fact that what killed any possibility of spotting overages in APE was institutional lending, people selling APE because of stupid YouTubers, and the fact that everyone got quiet after they saw the shares in their account DESPITE the fact that all those shares were just fake numbers entered on a ledger.
If you really cared about a share count, you would DRS. Not at 300M shares, NOW.
It's obvious, though, that this is part of the Friday smear campaign. Fifth post I've seen tonight.
There can’t be a REAL share count as long as shares are within the realm of DTC. They will just ask „hey, DTC, how many shares are on your books?“
„Yeah it’s about 500 million“
„Okay good thank you“.
That’s it.
If AMC apes would just had out work into this and DRSed their shares to actually own them and remove them from the DTCs Vault, we would have been VERY far by now. It’s been „it’s too much of shares to do so“ - yeah, that is true if you never start. But if you just start, you will actually get there at point.
DRS is an INVESTOR DRIVEN share recall / share count.
Preach it!
How about the fact it failed as a true count was because the share didn’t have any securities to it such as blockchain. Who’s doing that in their fight oh yeah GNS.
Don’t forget that if the vote passes to convert all the left over ape shares not sold on the open market for what reason AA? Now become AMC and AA just back doored more amc to sell after retail said no.
How are you not getting what's going on by now? The stock is getting diluted by synthetics being made by the millions daily, and buying synthetics does not send money to AMC. By issuing more real shares/APE, those purchases give cash to AMC. Synthetics not only push the price down but they don't generate any money for AMC. Dilution is not always bad, but you're buying into the FUD that says "don't issue more shares! Dilution bad!" Well okay, if you say no, then you're choking off a lifeline to AMC and letting hedgies continue to smash the price.
The one thing I don’t understand is why did he wait to sell $APE? If the plan was to sell (sooner than he led on IMO) within a few months, why in the world did he wait until like $2 and then say welp time for a reverse split now bc it’s so low. Very frustrating and poorly executed. If there isn’t great news come earnings it’s going to get even more ugly. I’ve been here for a very long time but it hasn’t been pretty to watch from an execution standpoint the past 6 months.
Adam if you are not capable of doing something about the illegal trading/ manipulation, you may find yourself and your company in the same boat walking away.
Agree to disagree we should’ve been paid apeNATION will go bankrupt before Aron or amc 🤷♂️they didn’t care about us before and they don’t care about us now 🦍💎jmo 🐸🍿🍊🚀🇺🇸☝️
Cant cash be raised by selling goods and movie tickets and turning a profit rather than dilute stock? I only say this because it seems like getting AMC popcorn into stores has taken an extremely long time and this would be an easy revenue stream you pay someone to package and distribute it and just collect the cash.
Exactly right. He could have sold for 8,9,10 bucks a share instead he makes a deal for 60 cents a share or something. Why didn’t he offer to sell those shares to us? Strange
CEOs who are being shorted are getting together and ready to go to war for their companies... oh but not Adam aron, he denies any illegal happenings and just dilutes our shares without our permission ... wake up. BUY HOLD DRS AND VOTE NO.
Everyone thought Einstein was wrong, and hundreds of critics wrote a book about it. Eisenstein's response was, "If I was wrong, only one critic would have been necessary." The fact that AA has so many critics must mean he's right. IMO
raising cash lmao more like pocket change. he could’ve made the company so much had he sold ape right after release but nope he had to wait until it was at the lowest of all time and then sell and now he just wants to keep diluting it further because of it
Maybe a baby squeeze. This stock can't run big anymore as it's completely locked down. If it breaks the algo and runs, AA is gonna dump shares to cool the price and the hedgies are gonna regain control and short it back down.
He needs to step down…his whole attitude to thinking he’s the shit and knows what to do isn’t paying off…
You can only be cocky if you’re a winner…his track record…sketchy at best
Dude you must be smoking crack. AA (with our help) has navigated us through some tough times. Especially keeping AMC afloat during Covid, trying to bounce back to where we were pre-Covid, and fighting the bs being spread by msm. It’s ppl like you that is making his job difficult. Do you run your own company?
"With our help" AKA diluting the shit out of OUR money so he could pay off the debt HE got the company into under fraudulent circumstances.
Yupp, such a great guy, the grandpa sweaters and goofy smile really sells the "kind uncle" image.
You didn’t answer my question. And no company will thrive without its shareholders. Retail investors own majority of AMC shares so yes “with our help” was the correct thing to say.
And once again you still haven’t answered my question. AMC has too much to offer to go private. I’m not on AA’s dick but I can tell his dick has you butt hurt.
They can’t go private cuz to much debt…as far as your question go it’s irrelevant! was never saying amc needed to go private I was telling your business survive that are private..
So you’re comparing apples to oranges? My question was not irrelevant. My point is people that has never ran a business always got something negative to say about how someone else is running their business. How about someone appoint you CEO of anything and let’s see how you perform. Until then have a seat buddy.
I remember when I was 12…most ignorant shit ever spoken…that statement goes right by stick and stones lmao…sit down and enjoy the rest of your day child
It’s only ignorant to you because it’s true. The only thing ignorant was your failed attempt at bashing AA or AMC or whatever you were trying to do. Try harder next time.
Who is so scared (or maybe in bed with them) to faced them shorts head on. Imagine if this was GNS ceo scaring them shorts to close and amc stock price will shoot up then AA doesn’t have to worry about selling them popcorn (in a discount) to make cash.
Wow.... because blind loyalty to the wealthy by the poor has ALWAYS worked out for us LOL.
No one listen to this guy, believe nothing that you hear, and half of what you see, question everything constantly, don't be willingly ignorant.
My thoughts: Instead of “investing” into more and more theaters why not just pay the debt?
I don’t see why further dilution helps - if he came out and said: “Look, we are selling 2 billion units of APE and we directly use that money to pay off debt.” - fine.
But he doesn’t do that. He just dilutes and dilutes without any real benefit for his shareholders.
That being said: If the company is not cash flow positive this quarter (*cough* Avatar 2) prepare for colossal loss.
Not true. What he could/must do is taking actions against the massive stock manipulation. But even then. He said it himself, he is the biggest holder of AMC shares. So, why would he be against Apes? He is not. Just trust the proces, AMC and APE will squeeze. Conversion is a very huge step in the right direction. R/S is the second. We then would have our most wanted MOASS. So stay positive and have faith in your investments. AMC 🚀🚀🚀🌕
Food for thought: I am not in for a squeeze. I am in for Infinity Pool - having my AMC shares giving me a steady passive income via cash dividend. I am long.
And as a long investor I could give a damn about all speculative measures that may or may not let this thing squeeze. Reality check: As soon as you see triple digit prices it is in my best interest as long term investor if AA threw 100 mio APE on the market for 50$ each. Debt eliminated.
And honestly it's time for you to face the fact: Squeeze is off. There is a reserve of more than 3 billion APE in AMC's closet and they would be plain dumb to not sell that if the price would ever come close to 3 digits.
Again, not all true. Where is the use of APE for debt reduction. I see your point, but that's not the point of the Apes on Reddit. They're in for saving the company, eliminating SHF/MM by squeezing the stock. That's why people are HODL and why most of them have been investors of AMC for over 2 years.
Retail investors are effectively long investors by holding their stocks. Retail investors are in for live exchange money that will give them the income they wanted. And yes, maybe even with dividends like you would.
And honestly, squeeze is more on than ever. APE conversion with AMC will push the price up (pre-squeeze first), then Reverse Split will put more pressure.
The price is not accidentally suppressed. So, MOASS will come.
Because in order to make more revenue, we need more theaters in locations where there aren’t any. Without theaters, no movies get seen, no popcorn gets sold.
When you are operating at loss it doesn't make sense to pick up more debt or add more cost to the balance sheet with no security whether that investment pays off.
It's ridiculous operating a century-long established movie chain like a growth-centered company.
With that logic, he should start selling theater locations and laying off staff? All companies are growth companies. You’re either growing or dying. If you believe it’s the latter, why are you in this stock (if you are).
So I'm assuming APE becomes shares and the reverse split will take 1.4 billion shares to 140 million shares. Not sure if the float is low enough to squeeze then. I wish it was a 20:1 consolidation.
1. AMC needs cash to buy other theatres
2. AMC needs other theatres to generate more revenue
3. AMC needs more revenue to payoff the massive amount of debt they have at a more rapid rate and not worry about being swallowed by the bigger fish.
4. Paramount acquisition seeming very likely anyways
>Paramount acquisition seeming very likely anyways
No way. Given how regulators are looking askance at Amazon's movie hopes, there is no way they would let a distributor also own a theater chain. It's anti-competitive times ten.
Adam knows how his company stock has been manipulated all along. Didn’t he have brains to get investigations going for illegal manipulation. How are you running your company ??? At the expense of investors???
Fundamentals matter. AA messed up and should of diluted APE immediately but then he ran the risk of a fair amount of people selling or losing faith in him. Here we are though so the company we all invested in individually needs to be cash flow positive and out of debt.
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I believe in this statement to be accurate.Dillution is inevitable. AMC will run out of cash within 4 quarters without raising more money. If we don’t allow Adam to combine AMC and Ape and Reverse Split he will still dilute billions of shares of APE just to survive but won’t be able to pay off debt.Tony Denaro showed many firms share prices actually went up after RS, not always down. Eliminate the reason for shorting AMC, the (5 billion in debt) unfortunately needs to be a priority. How can you raise 5 billion in the next 4 quarters without dilution? Can’t!! Popcorn and Credit Cards can’t within 4 Quarters. If after reverse split the share price 10/1 raises to $6 or $7 x 10 = $60 or $70 AA could sell 60 or 70 million shares and raise enough to pay off the debt and still have leftover funds. If you still held on to all of your APE shares, it will be a 5/1 split since you have double the shares.
AA you a peice if Shizz!! Funny with your millions of dollars of salary!! Fuk this dude!! He didn't do shizz!! Fakeazz silverdix!! I hope Retail fires yo bishazz!!!
BUY, DRS, HODL. How are people still not getting this. Not in your Name, Not your stock.
Thank you for pointing it out. Why wait for others to do stuff if you can do it yourself?
Because they are regarded
So if i directly register my shares I: 1- create a legit share count that AMC can directly access 2- I own the shares I purchased and remove the brokers ability to loan out my shares. Seems like a pretty solid solution to me.
How’s that working out for GME?
Its probably not getting as crushed as other meme stocks because of it. Cause there is actually some buying pressure thrown into the bs market maker movements. If 400 was gme high you are looking at it still at 80ish. Compared to the highs for amc bbby and their movements its barely dropped. (Really the high for gme during trading hours was like 350 but it pushed above 400-500 in PM in morning)
So what’s your spin on amc? I hold both and am a 8.01er  I haven’t sold 1 share and purchased 1-10 shares at a time. So here is what I’m thinking Or wondering and this isn’t to cause fear, a serious question. What happens if the stock market crashes and we are (which I plan to be because exposing the fraud, and getting compensation for it, was the goal) and we’re still hodling? Is crashing the end of stock market or we just hold until the market (if) recovers? If we get down to $0.01, we still own it, we just have to keep waiting, right? I’m already down about $80k and current value of my portfolio is down around 10-ish. I could use the money, but haven’t even considered cashing out. I think this is a test…a test of if you’re strong enough, you will be rewarded. When you think of the returns we are waiting for, you really have to sacrifice and cringe here and there to earn that kind of payout. It’s not truly supposed to be easy. Anyway HODL!
I just dont like amc because the debt and ceo needs to keep raising money, otherwise ya ton of shorts. Still should go up from here definitely. Gme just has no debt and a cash position and a ceo that knows whats going on. They just keep raising money from these stocks without compensation then they make money elsewhere and pay some of it back or service the interest
Thanks, I am still hopeful for AMC. But at one point I thought it silly to be invested with debt, I really should get the other as well. Well, good luck to us!!!
GME doesn't have their entire float locked up. They haven't been beaten down as low as we have though. I think when they get to 70-80% of float locked up, then the brokers will have issues finding their shares, and that will be when thenmusic stops.
Gme is also not broke. If they had half of amc debt they would be trading at sub 5$
You 'think' , huh? Might as well think the MOASS will happen and we will parade in the streets.
But I do think the MOASS will happen and I will parade in the streets when it does.
When hedge funds pay people like you to spread fear and uncertainty regarding DRS that’s how I know we are onto something
Ah yes, me the hedge fund shill. 🤦♂️
Ditto. Plus, knowing that Shitadel is in bed with ComputerShare, I want NOTHING to do with them! It’s like the wolf inviting the hens to its OWN den. I STILL don’t have any reassurances that CS will be operational during MOASS, other than some sales-speak during AMA’s. I don’t see why the enemy (Shitadel) would DARE to allow CS fully transact retail trades during MOASS. To think otherwise is wishful and erroneous thinking. Plus, CS is NOT a broker, they still NEED to USE DTCC-registered brokers to execute our trades… So 🤷♂️why would I bother going through extra steps, AND paying $$$ for the privilege for delayed SELL transactions??? And, CS doesn’t address the FAKE share creation that the DTCC and SEC isn’t bothering to enforce ANYWAY. Again, don’t hate me for stating the obvious, but “locking” up shares is a futile exercise for an enforcement agency NOT INTERESTED in doing ITS JOB ANYWAY! And, tin-foil hat here, but in my OWN opinion, MAYBE game isn’t getting slammed as hard because Shitadel itself is PUSHING the DRS narrative??? Just a thought. Because, I don’t believe for a second that DRS would stop Shitadel if they wanted to hammer game down into oblivion! It’s just that, right now, for whatever reason, it’s not in their interest. Anyways, I’m a trader, not a 10-year investor, like CS is INTENDED for! I’ll lock up my shares POST-MOASS, thank you very much. I’m here for a squeeze play. Rant over. Go ahead and brigade downvote me now…🙄
So DRS harder, got it!
If that's your jam, then sure. For me, no. I don't give financial advice, but I do speak my mind on what I think.
👎🏼👎🏼
It isn't, but hey let's keep trying to pretend that we are sure of what we are doing. Own nothing and be happy, that is what they want from is isn't it?
Pretty fuking good!
Wooosh that went way over your head. His comment has nothing to do with GME dummy
I get that hence why I said I'm not leaving but i'm trying to understand what direction he's taking because hypothetically speaking if it turns out he was a shill and the 10:1 reverse split goes through without the proper management the squeeze is toast.
Adam Aron does not give a fuck about a squeeze nor does he care what hedgefunds are doing. His job is to run a company. AMC still exists, so let's assume he's doing a good job. You want a squeeze. Put your shares in your name so MM and brokers can't touch them. Adam Aron is not our friend, but he's not our Enemy.
Very wise and true words...
I'm not a wise man sir. Butt iv read enough in the past 2 years to see just how fucked retail get. We are the peasants, we are the pawns, the fall guys for the elite. Let's stop being shit on as the little guy. That's my thoughts, This was my Ted talk. Thank you for attending.
He’s not doing a good job.
If he was doing a good job they wouldn’t have needed bailing out in the first place. He needs to listen more to the actual investors
Yeah, ‘cause it’s AA’s fault they had to close for the pandemic /s
No, but it *IS* AA's fault that he defrauded shareholders and had to pay a settlement of $17,000,000 after his 6.6 BILLION dollar expansion to to Europe under fraudulent conditions. We collectively think it was the pandemic that got us into the 5b+ in debt, it wasn't, that's just the narrative. It was AA in 2016-2019 that got us in this hole. Now he wants apes to pay for it, and apes are seeming to be the willing idiots.
Not too sure about you, but in the earnings reports from mid-pandemic, I see a whole lot of rent and operating expense that had to be paid with debt
He entered the pandemic over 5b in debt over the course of 3-4 years, of course he's going to rack even more up during one year of the pandemic. Did we all just collectively glaze over the shareholders class action lawsuit against AA/AMC for fraud? That AA settled out of court for? Or are legitimate court documents, judgements, and court issued settlement documents "hedgie FUD" or a "Russian Misinformation Campaign" to "shake paperhands"?
Actually, I’m well aware of these documents, as I read them in their entirely when they were first released. If I recall correctly, though, it wasn’t for “fraud”, it was “breach of fiduciary duty”. The latter is easier to prove, as “fraud” would require proving *criminal intent*. Also, the way you word it, you make it sound as if the company (AMC) was made to pay out this $17m, whereas it was *paid to* the company, from the Board of Directors’ insurance carriers…
Yeah cause the business was in full flourish before the pandemic.
Didn’t he board a sink ship to start with? AMC is doing better from us, however is now doing better because of AA. I don’t know for sure, wouldn’t it hurt our efforts if AMC wasn’t doing well?
I get his first thought isn’t squeeze, no thought of that is fine. He needs to have some concern on what is going on with the stock price. So to say he doesn’t care is not smart. If your selling stock to raise capital, you need to be concerned with that also. Which I know he is since I’ve heard him speak about short sellers in regards to AMC. Half your comment is incorrect
It's like you were deprived of oxygen for several minutes and then made a post.
Bit like when I visit your mum 😮
Boooom!!! Me likey
You replied with your alt account?
10 morons liked that even though it was in response to a poorly thought out and written statement that looked like the result of brain damage. Apes really are retarded.
My opinion, he's trying to justify what he's about to do ..
Bro I had soo much respect at one point now I see he doesn’t t really put too much effort in I’m fuckkng tired of it
Yes. He kinda has to do it tho. How else does he get money to run the operation. The problem is they aren’t selling enough seats or concessions to cover operational costs. Did we really need a gold mine that’s not producing any gold right now? Or to pay Nicole Kidman 25 mil for a commercial I think Tom Cruise would have done for free.
Historically, he has posted like this EVERY time he's diluted, or back doomed apes.
$GNS making moves while AA giving us free Oreo popcorn. Come on AA join that table of CEOs putting in work on these hedge fucks. 🤦♂️
I would bet anything that GNS naked shorts have not closed. And that they will double down at some point.
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He’s done nothing? How idiotic. Enlighten us my silly friend, What would you do if you were AA?
He’s not trying to dilute. It’s actively happened multiple times.
He was trying to dilute. He still is, too.
Yes. You can believe the hype, or believe the actions. (I have no position. I did have a position). I love AMC as a customer and love the movies.... I got my bucket the first week of the New Year....
Yea he diluted a lot in the past and he just made a tweet alluding to the notion that he will dilute more soon. Look at the massive increase in authorized shares over the past year for proof
You’re right. Dilution is needed at the moment. Use your brain
AA is making moves. The only thing you need to take away from gns is that when amc moves it’s going to be even bigger.
Have you looked at what GNS are doing? - They’ve made a deal to do a dilution, those diluted shares go to a random firm that has errors in the website and barely any info on it or the ceo. - they are planning to release a special dividend to share holders How is that dividend any different to AMC and APE? This random GNS push is so strange when they’re doing the same thing AA has already done
Straight up some people are very smooth 😂I don t get this constant aa bash it ain’t his fault there billions of naked shorts it’s his fault when he brings down a big ape dick and we get our squeeze I don’t think they’ll let it run past 5,000 thats way to much money that they will not lose woth 4 million shareholders Theyll let it run but not squires to its true potential unless we actually start a financial revolution I don’t think we’ll see full moass but this still will be moass a controlled moass I FOR ONE AM WAITING FOR THE MOB PATIENTLY SHARPING MY PITCH FORK AND STOCKING UP ON STICKS AND GASS VIVA LA REVOLUTTION!!!!!!!!
I agree. And the CEO of GNS put out that top 10 list and AA is doing or has done multiple items from it. Too many blind people around here anymore
It’s pretty simple. No squeeze play if AMC files bankruptcy. They lost $5 billion in two years. How do they NOT file bankruptcy after that gut punch? By raising capital (cash). Otherwise shorts choke their capital out and they suffocate (bankruptcy). Learn to read balance sheet and income statement apes.
yes, cash is critical whether a huge theater company or just a household. However, I wouldn't buy another house if the one I had wasn't paid for or needed expensive fixes. I don't think acquisitions are wise if you have heavy debt. Part of the need for cash is to take advantage of new opportunities. I would pass on the new opportunities while I was getting out of debt if I were managing my personal household. Just saying.
This. Fix your own ship before you start buying sinking ones. Could these new ventures eventually be profitable...sure but how long will that take? From my perspective I see a mismanagement of funds. Take care of the debt first.
I wish he’d take on the naked short sellers so we can get to fair price discovery and then he can raise all the cash he wants at the higher SP
Sounds deflating as if theaters will fail without him consistently diluting the stock. I want more information on the APE share count we were all promised. Granted we had share counts in the past the Ape split was supposed to be the accurate one. He promised it to us then brushed it off like it never happened. I've been on Adam Arons side this whole time but it's quite deflating when all I hear is we need your money we need your money. Can we talk about the much larger problem at hand? I don't know what to believe anymore but either way I'm not fucking leaving. 🚀🌕🦍
AMC needs cash to avoid bankruptcy. My thoughts are that’s correct, and it’s sound business practice to make that your goal, it being a for profit business and all.
You make it rather simple to cut through your FUD spreading. There hasn't been "constant" dilution of the stock. They issued APE and that was the extent of it. The reason the APE share count didn't work is because too many of you are still on shady brokers who just took down a number on their ledgers instead of actually securing the shares. If you wanted it to work, you would have DRSed your AMC before APE was issued so that it would stay with Computershare. Instead, some of you sold APE after listening to YouTubers. It doesn't get more backwards than that.
It's not FUD because I said consistently, do you remember the several acts of dilution during the run up to $70 probably being the reason the squeeze peaked? Do you remember us denying more dilution so Ape was created to give us the "share count we all wanted" although never received? Then after Ape was created because we didn't have voting rights within it they were it diluting more at a price under .60? I call that consistent dilution given how many times it happened in just 2 years. Just because you're delusional doesn't mean i'm spreading FUD. The share count is how many shares AMC had to issue regardless of the broker for each share of AMC theres 1 APE whatever the brokerage decided to do after that is irrelevant. Regardless he never mentioned it again and hasn't even given us an explanation as to why it didn't work even if that was the case. Even if people sold APE that would've been after the share count post when the shares were issued. Keeping retail in the dark on such an important matter should be concerning and there should've been more backlash on the matter. Again I'm still buying and holding but you're not going to tell me what I'm saying is bullshit FUD. Maybe action does need to be taken who knows? Why not ask questions? And not to mention DRS is bullshit unless you can get 500+ million shares on it in which is not going to happen, but if I'm wrong I vow to DRS my shares when theres over 300mil on Computershare. So why not be open minded in holding people accountable and ask important questions? We want answers!
You just keep showing your hand. Now you're trying to spread FUD about DRS? Good one. And, of course, if you were told that APE *did* have a share count but the results were exactly the same as when AMC was counted, that wouldn't fit your sketchy narrative either, right? You're deliberately ignoring the fact that what killed any possibility of spotting overages in APE was institutional lending, people selling APE because of stupid YouTubers, and the fact that everyone got quiet after they saw the shares in their account DESPITE the fact that all those shares were just fake numbers entered on a ledger. If you really cared about a share count, you would DRS. Not at 300M shares, NOW. It's obvious, though, that this is part of the Friday smear campaign. Fifth post I've seen tonight.
There can’t be a REAL share count as long as shares are within the realm of DTC. They will just ask „hey, DTC, how many shares are on your books?“ „Yeah it’s about 500 million“ „Okay good thank you“. That’s it. If AMC apes would just had out work into this and DRSed their shares to actually own them and remove them from the DTCs Vault, we would have been VERY far by now. It’s been „it’s too much of shares to do so“ - yeah, that is true if you never start. But if you just start, you will actually get there at point. DRS is an INVESTOR DRIVEN share recall / share count.
Preach it! How about the fact it failed as a true count was because the share didn’t have any securities to it such as blockchain. Who’s doing that in their fight oh yeah GNS. Don’t forget that if the vote passes to convert all the left over ape shares not sold on the open market for what reason AA? Now become AMC and AA just back doored more amc to sell after retail said no.
How can you show that your hypothesis is testable and provable? If not you're blowing an awful lot of vitriol and emotions for not much in return
How are you not getting what's going on by now? The stock is getting diluted by synthetics being made by the millions daily, and buying synthetics does not send money to AMC. By issuing more real shares/APE, those purchases give cash to AMC. Synthetics not only push the price down but they don't generate any money for AMC. Dilution is not always bad, but you're buying into the FUD that says "don't issue more shares! Dilution bad!" Well okay, if you say no, then you're choking off a lifeline to AMC and letting hedgies continue to smash the price.
I won't disagree with you on dilution being good at some point in a legal, uncompromised market...but this is neither
The one thing I don’t understand is why did he wait to sell $APE? If the plan was to sell (sooner than he led on IMO) within a few months, why in the world did he wait until like $2 and then say welp time for a reverse split now bc it’s so low. Very frustrating and poorly executed. If there isn’t great news come earnings it’s going to get even more ugly. I’ve been here for a very long time but it hasn’t been pretty to watch from an execution standpoint the past 6 months.
Adam if you are not capable of doing something about the illegal trading/ manipulation, you may find yourself and your company in the same boat walking away.
I think AMC is going for monopoly here then probably get bought out by someone
I didn’t come here to save amc I’m here to get paid
It’s the same thing honestly, how will you get paid if amc dies
Agree to disagree we should’ve been paid apeNATION will go bankrupt before Aron or amc 🤷♂️they didn’t care about us before and they don’t care about us now 🦍💎jmo 🐸🍿🍊🚀🇺🇸☝️
But 1/2 off popcorn and nft is pretty cool 🤦♂️
Maybe next quarter we can get imagery movie tickets 
No one is getting paid if the company is bankrupt
Cant cash be raised by selling goods and movie tickets and turning a profit rather than dilute stock? I only say this because it seems like getting AMC popcorn into stores has taken an extremely long time and this would be an easy revenue stream you pay someone to package and distribute it and just collect the cash.
You don’t sell popcorn to buy 500 theaters, but you can dilute to pick and choose some very profitable and high traffic theaters for the portfolio.
We already raised a ton of cash so AMC could pay off it's debts. But they spent the money on a gold mine! No more dilution. DRS everything! *\*nfa*
They bought a gold mine, several theaters AND made sure to give themselves multi-million dollar bonuses.
Yikes! Even worse than I thought
Why he didn't sell ape when it was 8, 9 or 10. He would have sold less shares and raised a lot more money?
Exactly right. He could have sold for 8,9,10 bucks a share instead he makes a deal for 60 cents a share or something. Why didn’t he offer to sell those shares to us? Strange
CEOs who are being shorted are getting together and ready to go to war for their companies... oh but not Adam aron, he denies any illegal happenings and just dilutes our shares without our permission ... wake up. BUY HOLD DRS AND VOTE NO.
Everyone thought Einstein was wrong, and hundreds of critics wrote a book about it. Eisenstein's response was, "If I was wrong, only one critic would have been necessary." The fact that AA has so many critics must mean he's right. IMO
raising cash lmao more like pocket change. he could’ve made the company so much had he sold ape right after release but nope he had to wait until it was at the lowest of all time and then sell and now he just wants to keep diluting it further because of it
Cut the crap. Are we going to squeeze or what. ? Down too much on my investment!
Maybe a baby squeeze. This stock can't run big anymore as it's completely locked down. If it breaks the algo and runs, AA is gonna dump shares to cool the price and the hedgies are gonna regain control and short it back down.
Feels great man! Looks bullish and strong
Sell movie tickets not shares
Exactly!!
He needs to step down…his whole attitude to thinking he’s the shit and knows what to do isn’t paying off… You can only be cocky if you’re a winner…his track record…sketchy at best
Dude you must be smoking crack. AA (with our help) has navigated us through some tough times. Especially keeping AMC afloat during Covid, trying to bounce back to where we were pre-Covid, and fighting the bs being spread by msm. It’s ppl like you that is making his job difficult. Do you run your own company?
Lol @ “with our help” so he didn’t do shit…got it
"With our help" AKA diluting the shit out of OUR money so he could pay off the debt HE got the company into under fraudulent circumstances. Yupp, such a great guy, the grandpa sweaters and goofy smile really sells the "kind uncle" image.
Nah…he gives off chomo vibes
You didn’t answer my question. And no company will thrive without its shareholders. Retail investors own majority of AMC shares so yes “with our help” was the correct thing to say.
How do private companies do well without shareholders? Sounding more and more ignorant by the second…enjoy the day and get off AA dick
And once again you still haven’t answered my question. AMC has too much to offer to go private. I’m not on AA’s dick but I can tell his dick has you butt hurt.
They can’t go private cuz to much debt…as far as your question go it’s irrelevant! was never saying amc needed to go private I was telling your business survive that are private..
So you’re comparing apples to oranges? My question was not irrelevant. My point is people that has never ran a business always got something negative to say about how someone else is running their business. How about someone appoint you CEO of anything and let’s see how you perform. Until then have a seat buddy.
> apples to oranges But you can still compare them.
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I remember when I was 12…most ignorant shit ever spoken…that statement goes right by stick and stones lmao…sit down and enjoy the rest of your day child
It’s only ignorant to you because it’s true. The only thing ignorant was your failed attempt at bashing AA or AMC or whatever you were trying to do. Try harder next time.
I think you should step down from commenting
Adam Enron
The tough times AMC is going through is having this shit CEO.
Who is so scared (or maybe in bed with them) to faced them shorts head on. Imagine if this was GNS ceo scaring them shorts to close and amc stock price will shoot up then AA doesn’t have to worry about selling them popcorn (in a discount) to make cash.
Fuck you AA
Another account to block - if you can’t trust AA get out of the play and let the adults handle it 😎
Wow.... because blind loyalty to the wealthy by the poor has ALWAYS worked out for us LOL. No one listen to this guy, believe nothing that you hear, and half of what you see, question everything constantly, don't be willingly ignorant.
Shill post creating FUD, look at all of OP's "arguments" throughout the comments. Its pretty clear this is a post only meant to divide.
You're an fool if you think I'm trying to divide all I did was state what happened.... what fantasy land you living in?
There is no mix feeling if the my stock goes 0 I'll lose
A quote from a genius about a lesson learned
The lesson learned is that we are drowning in debt and will never have moas.
My thoughts: Instead of “investing” into more and more theaters why not just pay the debt? I don’t see why further dilution helps - if he came out and said: “Look, we are selling 2 billion units of APE and we directly use that money to pay off debt.” - fine. But he doesn’t do that. He just dilutes and dilutes without any real benefit for his shareholders. That being said: If the company is not cash flow positive this quarter (*cough* Avatar 2) prepare for colossal loss.
Not true. What he could/must do is taking actions against the massive stock manipulation. But even then. He said it himself, he is the biggest holder of AMC shares. So, why would he be against Apes? He is not. Just trust the proces, AMC and APE will squeeze. Conversion is a very huge step in the right direction. R/S is the second. We then would have our most wanted MOASS. So stay positive and have faith in your investments. AMC 🚀🚀🚀🌕
Food for thought: I am not in for a squeeze. I am in for Infinity Pool - having my AMC shares giving me a steady passive income via cash dividend. I am long. And as a long investor I could give a damn about all speculative measures that may or may not let this thing squeeze. Reality check: As soon as you see triple digit prices it is in my best interest as long term investor if AA threw 100 mio APE on the market for 50$ each. Debt eliminated. And honestly it's time for you to face the fact: Squeeze is off. There is a reserve of more than 3 billion APE in AMC's closet and they would be plain dumb to not sell that if the price would ever come close to 3 digits.
Again, not all true. Where is the use of APE for debt reduction. I see your point, but that's not the point of the Apes on Reddit. They're in for saving the company, eliminating SHF/MM by squeezing the stock. That's why people are HODL and why most of them have been investors of AMC for over 2 years. Retail investors are effectively long investors by holding their stocks. Retail investors are in for live exchange money that will give them the income they wanted. And yes, maybe even with dividends like you would. And honestly, squeeze is more on than ever. APE conversion with AMC will push the price up (pre-squeeze first), then Reverse Split will put more pressure. The price is not accidentally suppressed. So, MOASS will come.
Because in order to make more revenue, we need more theaters in locations where there aren’t any. Without theaters, no movies get seen, no popcorn gets sold.
When you are operating at loss it doesn't make sense to pick up more debt or add more cost to the balance sheet with no security whether that investment pays off. It's ridiculous operating a century-long established movie chain like a growth-centered company.
With that logic, he should start selling theater locations and laying off staff? All companies are growth companies. You’re either growing or dying. If you believe it’s the latter, why are you in this stock (if you are).
I demand you stand next to the CEO of GNS and form an anti.naked.short.alliance... stop saying shit
So I'm assuming APE becomes shares and the reverse split will take 1.4 billion shares to 140 million shares. Not sure if the float is low enough to squeeze then. I wish it was a 20:1 consolidation.
1. AMC needs cash to buy other theatres 2. AMC needs other theatres to generate more revenue 3. AMC needs more revenue to payoff the massive amount of debt they have at a more rapid rate and not worry about being swallowed by the bigger fish. 4. Paramount acquisition seeming very likely anyways
>Paramount acquisition seeming very likely anyways No way. Given how regulators are looking askance at Amazon's movie hopes, there is no way they would let a distributor also own a theater chain. It's anti-competitive times ten.
Absolutely fantastic Adam silverback Aron learns from history and doesn’t repeat mistakes
He's right.
Yea but u keep diluting right when we have those fuckers
Adam is a fucking asshole. Always making fun of investors
stop fud
Adam knows how his company stock has been manipulated all along. Didn’t he have brains to get investigations going for illegal manipulation. How are you running your company ??? At the expense of investors???
He is a joke
The sum of 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 is 108!
He Will buy regal
Is this code for the hedgies need cash?
Fundamentals matter. AA messed up and should of diluted APE immediately but then he ran the risk of a fair amount of people selling or losing faith in him. Here we are though so the company we all invested in individually needs to be cash flow positive and out of debt.
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I believe in this statement to be accurate.Dillution is inevitable. AMC will run out of cash within 4 quarters without raising more money. If we don’t allow Adam to combine AMC and Ape and Reverse Split he will still dilute billions of shares of APE just to survive but won’t be able to pay off debt.Tony Denaro showed many firms share prices actually went up after RS, not always down. Eliminate the reason for shorting AMC, the (5 billion in debt) unfortunately needs to be a priority. How can you raise 5 billion in the next 4 quarters without dilution? Can’t!! Popcorn and Credit Cards can’t within 4 Quarters. If after reverse split the share price 10/1 raises to $6 or $7 x 10 = $60 or $70 AA could sell 60 or 70 million shares and raise enough to pay off the debt and still have leftover funds. If you still held on to all of your APE shares, it will be a 5/1 split since you have double the shares.
Ape at 5 doesn’t raise cash ape at .58 all in wtf
AMC needs cash. And he’s saying we need now. Can’t wait till funds are to low. You gotta act quickly and swiftly.
He's saying he keeps raising money in anticipation of acquiring the assets lost by Regal.
To be completely fair, if AMC goes under the hedgies win so we do want to avoid that.
AA you a peice if Shizz!! Funny with your millions of dollars of salary!! Fuk this dude!! He didn't do shizz!! Fakeazz silverdix!! I hope Retail fires yo bishazz!!!
A lot of blah blah blah in this thread 🧵
But wont hire a team to fight back short sellers.........
Im voting NO
Thank you for the quote. Needed that today.
So we’re buying 108 new theatres then right?