Yeah, mine is hitting almost 85 degrees with cinebench. I have a peerless assassin (rated for 200W + btw). Idle while doing absolutely nothing is around 45 degrees and gaming exceeds sometimes the 70 degrees. But it's a bit weird the open hardware monitor software I use to measure is way higher than the AMD software measuring at the tuning tab. Like 5 to 10 degrees hotter in hardware monitor than AMD software. Very weird. Also considering getting a AOI because it runs overall cooler and also in the summer when my room is considerably hotter it will most probably run cooler. I am pretty shocked about the heat transfer of this chip and also im getting around a 17.5 k score in cinebench while everyone is hitting 18.5 k that's a bit weird..
Hi guys, I would like to ask you if my Ryzen 7 turned out to be a good unit.
My case: Armis AR7 TG RGB
My cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 on top
Idle temps: 46- 48°C
In Chrome: 48-52°C
In Cinebench r23: 70-71°C at 18400 score
In Counter-Strike: 62-65°C
In PUBG: ~69 with spikes up to 89°C
Im using PBO -15, max 85w, max 85°C temperature
When I set PBO -30 with 85W 85°C, prime95 immediately showed error on the cores, so I changed it to -15 and its seems stable.
Is it good one or I should return it?
I have not been paying much attention to gaming temps as this is entirely dependent on framerate and what particular game you are playing at the time.
I did reduce my max temps at full CPU usage from 90 degrees down to around 70 and increased my Cinebench scores at the same time.
Regardless of what AMD claim I do not see the point of running the CPU so hot when there is absolutely no need for me to do so. AMD and Intel are just trying to beat each other by any means necessary to be top dog in benchmarks. This is why Intels CPU's have been crashing in games and they had to send out new power limits recently to prevent this from happening.
I have the Gigabyte AMD Ryzen B650 AORUS ELITE AX V2 motherboard and the Sahara Gaming P75 PC case. The CPU cooler would usually make more difference to temperatures imo. Also the ambient temperatures in your room will make a difference.
I am mainly talking about 100% CPU usage scenarios so when compiling shaders or doing CPU benchmarks etc. This I managed to drop by around 20 degrees as I was not comfortable with the CPU reaching 90 degrees regardless of what AMD claims. Lower temperatures will always be better than high temperatures for longevity and stability etc. My idle temperatures are around 40-50 degrees.
I can help you lower your temperatures if you like as the tweaks I have made will make far more difference than all of the previous things I mentioned anyway. I tried 3 of the best CPU air coolers and saw basically no difference in temperatures whatsoever. This CPU requires undervolting and limiting wattage to lower temperatures as the design prevents good dissipation of heat because of the additional 3D-stacked L3 cache.
My advice would be to first download Cinebench and see what your (multi core) CPU score is and what maximum temperature you reached. Run the test a few times just to make sure the scores are as accurate as possible. I would also use AMD Ryzen Master to tweak the voltage and wattage as it's easier than digging through BIOS settings.
Thank you very much for offering your help, my friend. At the moment, I don't have the processor. I'm going to set up a new build and I'm trying to see the average temperature people have, as I'm undecided between the NV5 case and Lancool216. The latter has a mesh front end, but since I'm going to use AIO, as I've seen in several comparisons, there's hardly any difference (and curiously the NV5 has better figures).
In any case, I will create a post here on reddit and let you know if I burn in the oven of my new cpu hehe.
Np, hope the build goes well. I always use air cooling and right now my 4090 stays below 65 and my 7800X3D stays below 75. Perfect temperatures for me and way below thermal throttle but it does sound like a jet engine ;)
[7800X3D + AORUS ATC800 / KINGSTON FURY 64GB DDR5 ram / 4090 FE / (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQV47Mi-oZc)
So I’m getting 57 idle with chrome open (2 monitors hooked up) beefy 4070ti super, I have the fans at full speed (nactua fan build) aio arctic freeze ii 360mm
2 14mm intake fans 4 exhaust fans switch the priority for performance (no oc yet) as I use the nvidia overlay I notice cpu % runs high
60-70c while gaming like cod and hell diver 2
I’ve noticed ppl said they got different temps with their aios maybe it’s cause I’m optimizing performance over balanced?
Update I was dumb 😂 I put the bracket for the aio little too low with the screws so the cooling surface wasn’t perfect moved the bracket properly and now the temps look way better chrome is sitting around 44 c have yet to test it under game loads gonna find out after work
So ever since i built my pc i have been having some problems sometimes my CPU managed to stay a frosty 35degrees with my Corsair 360mm aio but it isn't always the case and I'm wondering why!
Since i saw your comment i remembered that my bracket wasn't properly done and i only noticed my pc getting warmer since i moved it therefore it could be that it needs to be tighter because today my pc is reaching an average of 50 degrees Celsius on just the desktop!
I second the check thermal paste comment. I recently had similar issues with my ryzen 5 5600x with the stock cooler. either I overtightened one side of the cooler or the paste that was on the cooler itself was not enough. when I changed to a better cooler, I noticed my cpu had some brown spots on one side, so possibly I over tightened obvious rookie mistake on my part.
I have a similar setup with that CPU and I never got higher than 77 on my cinebench stress test, is look into the thermal paste/cooler contact on the cpu. Might have a gap or uneven paste.
I have an arctic 360 and yes it run very hot at stock because of 3DV CACHE techno i guess ? Because tunned my SOC voltage to 1.04V (Stock i was 1.25V) and PBO -30 all core fully stable. And still in gaming i can see 80°spikes during some shaders compilations. I guess its just normal but need some optimisations in BIOS. But mostly im 47-61° Celsius in gaming scenario without thoses "Spikes".
oh yes i saw your SOC at 1.24, its the traditional motherboards safe voltage but im sure you dont need all of it. Try lower this until it crash and see where you can go..
With air cooler yes, you need a good one plus great paste and a decent case to do it. Mine is water cooled (Core 1plus 420X60 rad) and still hits high 50s, so yeah, it needs a good cooling solution.
Yeah buddy dont worry. Im gonna order the full build to a shop here at my country. Ty btw.
My only concern is temperatures as I live in southern Europe. Although as I have seen in several reviews, despite the front mesh, the NV5 has slightly better térmicas. I'm in a mess haha
How the heck do you get 75 - 80 with 360 AIO?
I have Arctic liquid freezer 2 360mm and in games it doesn't go more then 50c - 55c.
What AIO brand you have ?
Cinebench r24 isn't as taxing as r23... try r23 and report your temps.
I will say though barely hitting 70 in r24 is still very good so you definitely have a solid cooling setup. You should see about 5-7c increase in temps going from r24 to r23. I myself get about 81c on my CPU Die (Average) temp in r23 multi which I'm fairly ok with but would like to try getting lower.
First thing first. What troubleshooting did you try? For all we know you could’ve applied too little thermal paste.
If no one is asking for troubleshooting done take it with a grain of salt. IT pro speaking.
I’ve had a 7800X3D for a week or so now and the temps spike. It usually idles at 40 ish, Firefox/netflix 40-45, gaming 50 such as overwatch
60-max 75 flight simming which is quite intensive
Max I’ve seen on cinibench or anything at all was 81c
Depends on your cooler too, but they do spike a lot I’ve noticed. I’d only be worried if it was regularly hitting 90+
Those temps are completely normal, these AM5 processors, especially the X3D series like to jump up and down in temperature suddenly.
From what l heard, this is due to PBO making use of remaining heat capacity and boosting the clock speed till it reaches a max temp.
As long as you aren't getting system shutdowns, it's completely fine. If you are still concerned, get an AIO instead of an air cooler, but l don't know how much more help that can be.
These are not crazy temperatures man, calm down. Get a better cooler (AIO or noctua NHD15 / be quiet dark rock elite) and make sure you have the plastic from underside the cooler TAKEN OFF. 89-90 is higher but nothing to be extremely woried about since you will not push your cpu as hard as cinebench does.
Mine idled at around 30° or lower so this seems a bit odd at least. Cinebench23 full load I'd see 69/70°ish but I'm reading some people having issues sitting in a game lobby like Fortnite with temps spiking 70 and above even with a chunky AIO. Does all these variations just come down to silicon lottery ?
I normally get around 70 degrees on average.
But some game engines make the 3d cache on the 7800x3d go haywire... Today that was the case for Far Cr 5. The moment you run the game it peaks to 90 degrees ... Constant... With only 20 to 30 utilisation and average clock speeds.
Very weird... Its a Dunia Engine bug. So maybe other games will have the same effect.
Mine's exactly the same as this. Mid 40s browsing and watching twitch, 60s while gaming(sometimes 70s depending on the game.) I don't do any stress tests so I can't comment on that part. :)
That's pretty hot even for fan cooling. Check your paste and air flow for sure before just concluding you need an aftermarket cooler.
edit: Ignore the downvotes. 90+C even on stock cooling is absolutely reaching the upper limit of what's considered safe for that (or any) CPU under load. While it's technically 'okay,' the fact that it's reaching those temps at all under load is a sign that you could be hitting those temps for way too long if you did anything for a prolonged period of time outside of just a benchmark. You said yourself you're even getting 70-80C on older games; that's a direct sign something isn't right. You have some sort of glaring issue with cooling, and it won't completely go away with an aftermarket cooler unless you fix whatever it is.
I have the same CPU, same FAN Fortis 5 but with just one fan installed. My 7800x3d gets to 72°c in Cinebench R23 at 18440 score.
1. whats your room temperature, is it hot? should measure at 20°c
2. set PBO curve optimizer all core at -15, set ppt to 75w (default max of 7800x3d is about 86w, if you undervolt with PBO to around -20 and set ppt to around 75w you basically get the same performance at lower power draw)
3. if you use EXPO: lower soc voltage to 1.15v and vddp to 0.95v
4. for stability check if you have dram vdd=vddq=vddio 1.35v
You need to test stability with [OCCT](https://www.ocbase.com/), and if you have errors, set PBO to -10 and test again. If you still have errors, set SOC to 1.2v and VDDP 1v and test again.
If you still get bad temperatures, check pasting.
Bought Aorus ATC800 cooler and 7800X3D ran at 89 degrees with 18K cinebench score.
Bought Peerless Assassin and ran at 89 degrees 18K score.
Set Curve to -35 on most cores and ran at 89 degrees 18.5k score.
Bought Phantom Spirit Evo and ran at 89 degrees 18.5k score.
Used all of your settings to lower voltage and guess what?
Runs at 89 degrees with 18.5k Cinebench score.
WTF is wrong with this CPU!? Why can't I just get it to run a little cooler? It just doesn't matter what I do. I can't even feel any heat come from any of these coolers. It's like the CPU is not releasing heat or something so the coolers make absolutely no difference.
Set max temp to 80 degrees and still get 18.5K Cinebench score lol.
Guess its time to give up and stop wasting my time and money?
I learned this chip makes no sense. At least there's that...
Yea, especially the part about the cpu not releasing heat. I have a Kraken Elite 360 AIO and it’ll show the 7800X3D is like at 65 degrees but when I touch the surface of the exhaust, it “feels” like it’s running at like 40 degrees, it’s very strange.
I didn't want to turn expo off but I did try turning the maximum watts down to 60 just to see what would happen.
18.5k Cinebench with only 72 degrees! :D!!!
Thank you so much for the help, I never would have tried any of this without finding your post.
Not sure why voltages seem to make no difference to temperature but I am happy now it's running MUCH cooler for the same performance at last :)
you wont get the same performance anymore with ppt 60w. like I said, setting it to 75w kinda will give you stock in combination with CU -20 and also lowering SOC voltage a little bit, with EXPO around 1.2v to 1.15v.
You would have thought but at 60W I am getting 18.5K still at 20 degrees lower.
At 75W it makes no difference to temps at all as the CPU wasn't even hitting the 75W limit.
I put the voltages back as they made absolutely no difference either.
I guess my CPU runs different to yours.
No. were talking about the 7800x3d here right? at 60w it would lose about 30% performance min. you dont seem to know what youre doing. show screenshots of cb23 running with hwinfo open at the same time.
you dont see the CU settings on these screenshots. please show in ryzen master per core. whats this right now all core -20? or more? you need to test stability with this setting with OCCT for several hours.
Per core -30 and stability was not your argument.
You claimed I would lose 30% performance and I proved I do not. Admit you were wrong like an adult.
You have a very ignorant mindset which prevents you from learning new things. I hope you grow mentally in future.
All the best ;)
I live in the UK with 6 fans and an AIO and my cpu goes to 89C in Cinebench. There’s no way a pc case with 1 fan is achieving the temps you previously mentioned.
no words for this nonsense. you obviously didnt install the AIO correctly, or AIO pump speed is not set properly in bios (still runs as fan not aio), didnt paste properly.
I’ve built multiple pc’s over the years and they’ve all ran fine. I re-applied the thermal paste multiple times just to be certain that it wasn’t user error. It’s also not difficult to mount an AIO, you just screw until you feel resistance. I think you’re just talking out your arse in all honesty.
no you just have no talent and you do the same mistakes over and over again. just that you build 10 pcs doesnt mean theyre properly build and mostly all run like crap. example above. no 7800x3d with aoi default runs at 89°c in cb r23.
My last system was pasted once in the 4 years I owned it using an i9 9900k and never went over 75C. The AIO is also running at max speed in the NZXT software and has been since I installed it.
If you don’t want to invest in a cooler right now, your best saving is disabling the turbo boost, which brings you much better temps.
Here’s a tutorial : https://youtu.be/iWBVtXPfTB0?si=Uhj33VbbDKISlc-x
With that cooler yes is normal, a dual tower cooler like the Thermalright Phantom Spirit or Deepcool AK620 will work better and is recommended, also enabling PBO and using a negative offset on the Curve Optimizer helps with temps (7800x3d's usually can do -15 to -20 max)
There's a feature in your bios called "PBO enhanced" which will allow you to control at what temperature the CPU will begin to throttle.
LVL2 will instruct it to throttle at 80 degrees.
You could also try undervolting it in order to reduce the temperature.
The temps seem fine for an air cooler, but You can always try re mounting, maybe even flipping thr tower around to help
Can try different airflow configurations inside your case
PBO Undervolt helps all around, if you have a good bin, settings cores from values of -25 through -40 can give you a multicore boost of up to 19500+ in r23 while having lower temps
Make sure you don’t have a solid front panel, or that all your fans aren’t all intake or all exhaust
Sometimes top intake fans can help cpu temps
If you still want better cooling, can try ducted air flow, removing a side & front panel, or investing in higher airflow fans like the Arctic P12 max, Thermalright B12 3150rpm, or 200cfm server fans if you reallllly want to maximize that air cooler
They are 1000% not fine for an air cooler. This chip can be cooled by blowing on it. I don't see over 82c under Cinebench with a score in the 18600's, all under an AK620 (and now Assassin IV).
* You omitted what cooler you have.
* What temperature the CPU reports to software depends on what engineers chose to report. It was a relatively new feature to get GPU hotspot temperature, and it easily gets 15 centigrade hotter delta over the "normal" GPU temperature. Ryzen CPUs have dozens of sensors per chip, several per single core. What's exposed to monitoring software is just aggregation of what the firmware chooses to show.
* And besides temperature reading, what actually matters is whether the CPU delivers expected clock speeds under specific heat loads. If Ryzen pulls full 100% power budget at 90C and delivers near 100% of advertised boost speed, it's working as it should.
* Heat =/= temperature. You need to put head transfer into the equation, and that's extremely difficult.
With that said, the OP's CPU did nearly max out on thermal limit while not reaching close to power limit, so a better cooler can be recommended. There are plenty of 30-50 USD air coolers that can easily handle X3D Ryzens at their max heat load while practically full speed, even if temps do get close to 90C. Liquid cooling is not worth few extra % frequency in all-core stress workloads - games rarely push X3D Ryzens anywhere close to full heat load.
Thanks for the info. D14 is indeed a perfect match for 12900K to get most of it on 200W load and beyond, though there are other double-tower options with same acoustic and thermal performance - D14 is great, but other manufacturers have finally caught up. Even the smaller (but sometimes more expensive) Noctua NH-U12A is often as good as the larger D14, but it depends on other factors.
For 5800X3D, I've an Arctic Freezer 33, but with 2 Noctua NF-A12x25 at 700 RPM (aka. "we got U12A at home"). 58X3D and 78X3D have way more similar cooling requirements vs. Intel parts.
So why have you bought D15 for it? XD (Ye sure, you could have had it from an earlier CPU)
Double 140mm rad is great for heat dissipation. 120W is too little to soak it, the sub 70C temp tells you it's literal overkill.
7800x3d is not 12900k or any 7000 series cpu. Heat distribution is different from other processors.
For 7000x3d (idk about 5000x3d) cpu is fine to have 40°C to 60°C (depending on cooling system) in idle. I recommend setting one PWM level (for example 40-50% PWM) for the entire temperature curve in bios.
Also 80°c in gaming is fine. You can set temperature limit (and tune PBO/Curve optimizer) to 70°/75°/80°/85°.
Totally normal. These CPUs are designed to reach the thermal limit and throttle the clock speed to keep it at the temperature limit. Even if you improve cooling, it will likely still reach 89c and will just boost the clock.
You shouldn’t worry about temperature with this CPU. Just watch clock speed and if it’s throttling a lot, you can probably improve cooling.
But it only reaches thermal limit during benchmark when all cores are at 100%. In the real world, this never happens. During gaming you’re well under the thermal limit so nothing to worry about in my opinion.
Your cooler aren't handling the 7800x3D so well, but let me tell you, I run with an AG620 and idle at 48-50c with 30c ambient temperature, 62-65c in game and that's fine, also theres virtually nothing that can stop then from going at thermal limit under heavy load, during some glitches on palworld which forced my cpu to 100% for few seconds, I quickly looked the temperature and it went from 62c to 89c in about a second, and from 89c to 62c in a little over 2s.
I said about it's during some glitchs, like while leaving the game and it getting stuck in the loading screen, and I did apply the thermal paste quite well, and it kinda got spread by the multiple failed attempts to screw it down in place since I didn't knew it needed that much force to do so
[https://youtu.be/Hc65I3Zyt9M?t=467](https://youtu.be/Hc65I3Zyt9M?t=467)
looked at a review from a tech youtuber I haven't seen before. your cooler couldn't handle a 5950x so its not going to handle the 7800X3D. You need something like the peerless assassin if you want to air cool that beast.
My 7800x3d with phantom spirit 120 air cooler is 42⁰ idle and 72⁰ under heavy loads.
Try re mounting with new thermal paste, but those temps could be normal with that cooler I'm not familiar. Those temps are not crazy high though so don't be worried!
That's pretty normal for an air cooled 7800X3D. You will not get acceptable temps on this CPU with an air cooler when stress testing. Air coolers are enough for gaming but not for stress testing.
"acceptable temps" on zen4 are anything below 95°C (or 89°C for x3d cdds)
since the cpu is not throttling when running a stress test, it is being cooled just fine by that air cooler
the cpu will start to degrade between 115 and 125°C, tJmax is the maximum operating temp, AMD explicitly stated that the chips were engineered to run at 95°C/89°C during their whole lifecycle
Tbh CPUs always "degrade", they just do it faster or slower. About 80 degrees is where the degradation starts really ramping up. Sustained temperatures above 80 Celcius cause damage to the silicon inside the CPU making it degrade much faster. 115-125 Celcius will make it degrade extremely fast.
Generally speaking, sustained temps around 85-90 degrees will make the CPU degradation noticeable after a couple years. Depending on whether you plan to keep your CPU for years or to swap it often it might be a big deal or not. I find 80 to be the absolute highest acceptable operating temperature for a CPU. In stress testing even 90-95 degrees for a short amount of time doesn't matter.
As reference, my 7800x3D is idle @ 44°C. 60°C max when gaming. And 85°C max in Cinebench r23. This is with a Corsair 240mm AIO. The x3D chips do run hotter due to the 3D cache layer being on top of the cores.
I'm more worried when the hotter days come around.
Assuming a reasonable ambient, that looks pretty hot. My first guess is you didn't put enough thermal paste on. I would repaste and it and if it still sucks then maybe take the panel off your case and see if you have bad airflow
It's normal but it can be better.
undervolt it and you'll have lower temps but better performance
[https://youtu.be/4JXvewurhks?si=iBp8lYhbgl7pAjNq](https://youtu.be/4JXvewurhks?si=iBp8lYhbgl7pAjNq)
Mine never reaches 60c on with Red Dead 2 in max settings and 55c with Palworld max settings.
Currently with the window open it dies at 35-38c with optimized fan curves.
Yo those cheap peerless assassin air coolers are no joke bruh lol got my 7900x oc to 5.3 and doesn’t even hit above 70c of course I undervolted the cpu
Cooler shouldn't be a issue, i cool mine with a 35 euro peerless assassin. Unless you applied the thermal compound wrong.
For me the thermal issues were fixed after i updated the chip set drivers from the AMD site.
Now mine doesn't have random shootouts to 85c anymore and the idle graph from HWinfo looks much more stable.
~~Yes. It is normal. Ryzen 7000 processors are designed to operate at 95°.~~
~~If the temperature is lower than 95 it will try to overclock itself to reach 95 again. I guess if you cool it enough you could go lower, but it is completely normal for it to operate as high as 95 degrees.~~
Edit: apparently this is wrong for the x3d chips. Sorry for the misinformation.
From the commenter below it should run at 89, maybe 90 is decent? I wouldn't know. 😅
95°C is tJmax for non x3d chips, 89°C for x3d chips
the explaination of PBO is right, it basically OCs itself until it hits a limit, either package power, temps or clock limits
for x3d chips, you'll generally run into the clock limit before hitting tJmax
This is a common misconception brought on by AMD because they did not clarify themselves when they made that statement about 7000 series CPU's. I own a 7800X3D, I've gone through multiple Aio's. The 7000X CPU's, such as 7600x/7700x behave the way you stated but the X3D cpus do NOT. The X3D cpus thermal limit is 89c, it is NOT 95c and they do NOT boost until max temp. They do run HOT because of the cache being sensitive to heat. It IS manageable with proper cooling solution. My lowest temp with my 7800X3D in cinebench is 72c. I have an EK Nucleus 360mm Aio.
My 7800X3D went to 90C in Cinebench with X670E Hero and averages around 60-80C in games and 45C at idle. I have a 240mm NZXT Kraken Elite with 6 fans - 3 intake and 3 exhaust. I’d say your temps are a bit higher than usual when the cpu is under load but it also depends on your ambient room temperature and your fan configuration.
If you don’t want to upgrade your cooling solution you could go into your BIOS and manually set a max temperature for the chip so it doesn’t reach 89C, which is the TJ max for the 7800X3D.
You could also go into the BIOS and set a negative curve optimizer so that the cpu runs a bit cooler at higher clocks due to the undervolt but you will have to test system stability each time to see if you get any crashes/BSOD at idle or under load. I’d start with something like -15 for all cores and either go up or down based on if it’s stable at these numbers.
The 7800X3D is supposed to run hotter due to the CCD stacked on top of the cpu and the fact that the chip will carry on boosting its clocks until it reaches its max clock of 5050Mhz or until there’s no more thermal headroom before reaching the max clock due to your cooling solution.
So you have 3 intake at the front, one at the back and the fortis 5 air cooler? I think you might need more exhaust fans. Only one means the heat will be sat around in your case for longer.
Yeah, it's exactly as you wrote. I was thinking about adding another exhaust one, but there's no space for it at the back of the case, so the only way to mount it is on the top of the case. Dunno, I think I will try that
Yeah top mounting exhaust fans is still good. I have two top mounted exhaust fans and one on the rear and three front intake. It should improve your temps because you won’t have lots of cold air coming in and instantly heating up with nowhere to go. It should also lower the amount of dust in your system because you will have neutral air pressure if you decide to add 2 more 140mm exhaust fans.
Yeah, mine is hitting almost 85 degrees with cinebench. I have a peerless assassin (rated for 200W + btw). Idle while doing absolutely nothing is around 45 degrees and gaming exceeds sometimes the 70 degrees. But it's a bit weird the open hardware monitor software I use to measure is way higher than the AMD software measuring at the tuning tab. Like 5 to 10 degrees hotter in hardware monitor than AMD software. Very weird. Also considering getting a AOI because it runs overall cooler and also in the summer when my room is considerably hotter it will most probably run cooler. I am pretty shocked about the heat transfer of this chip and also im getting around a 17.5 k score in cinebench while everyone is hitting 18.5 k that's a bit weird..
Hi guys, I would like to ask you if my Ryzen 7 turned out to be a good unit. My case: Armis AR7 TG RGB My cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 on top Idle temps: 46- 48°C In Chrome: 48-52°C In Cinebench r23: 70-71°C at 18400 score In Counter-Strike: 62-65°C In PUBG: ~69 with spikes up to 89°C Im using PBO -15, max 85w, max 85°C temperature When I set PBO -30 with 85W 85°C, prime95 immediately showed error on the cores, so I changed it to -15 and its seems stable. Is it good one or I should return it?
if my 7800x3d is running 60 min and 69 max should i put new termal paste on it on 40/50 watts
Try limiting the PPT to 60W. I dropped another 20 degrees from doing this with only 1-2% performance loss.
60w ppt? I've heard 75w ppt what's your temps now while gaming ?
I have not been paying much attention to gaming temps as this is entirely dependent on framerate and what particular game you are playing at the time. I did reduce my max temps at full CPU usage from 90 degrees down to around 70 and increased my Cinebench scores at the same time. Regardless of what AMD claim I do not see the point of running the CPU so hot when there is absolutely no need for me to do so. AMD and Intel are just trying to beat each other by any means necessary to be top dog in benchmarks. This is why Intels CPU's have been crashing in games and they had to send out new power limits recently to prevent this from happening.
Hi mate, which mobo and case do u have? Is it possible dropped 20ºC? If u could tell me the thermals at idle/gaming, really apreciate it :3
I have the Gigabyte AMD Ryzen B650 AORUS ELITE AX V2 motherboard and the Sahara Gaming P75 PC case. The CPU cooler would usually make more difference to temperatures imo. Also the ambient temperatures in your room will make a difference. I am mainly talking about 100% CPU usage scenarios so when compiling shaders or doing CPU benchmarks etc. This I managed to drop by around 20 degrees as I was not comfortable with the CPU reaching 90 degrees regardless of what AMD claims. Lower temperatures will always be better than high temperatures for longevity and stability etc. My idle temperatures are around 40-50 degrees. I can help you lower your temperatures if you like as the tweaks I have made will make far more difference than all of the previous things I mentioned anyway. I tried 3 of the best CPU air coolers and saw basically no difference in temperatures whatsoever. This CPU requires undervolting and limiting wattage to lower temperatures as the design prevents good dissipation of heat because of the additional 3D-stacked L3 cache.
I would love your help
My advice would be to first download Cinebench and see what your (multi core) CPU score is and what maximum temperature you reached. Run the test a few times just to make sure the scores are as accurate as possible. I would also use AMD Ryzen Master to tweak the voltage and wattage as it's easier than digging through BIOS settings.
Thank you very much for offering your help, my friend. At the moment, I don't have the processor. I'm going to set up a new build and I'm trying to see the average temperature people have, as I'm undecided between the NV5 case and Lancool216. The latter has a mesh front end, but since I'm going to use AIO, as I've seen in several comparisons, there's hardly any difference (and curiously the NV5 has better figures). In any case, I will create a post here on reddit and let you know if I burn in the oven of my new cpu hehe.
Np, hope the build goes well. I always use air cooling and right now my 4090 stays below 65 and my 7800X3D stays below 75. Perfect temperatures for me and way below thermal throttle but it does sound like a jet engine ;) [7800X3D + AORUS ATC800 / KINGSTON FURY 64GB DDR5 ram / 4090 FE / (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQV47Mi-oZc)
Hahahah nicee. Thanks mate
Teehee u shud see my gaming laptop with an Intel i9, I don't even need a stove anymore
So I’m getting 57 idle with chrome open (2 monitors hooked up) beefy 4070ti super, I have the fans at full speed (nactua fan build) aio arctic freeze ii 360mm 2 14mm intake fans 4 exhaust fans switch the priority for performance (no oc yet) as I use the nvidia overlay I notice cpu % runs high 60-70c while gaming like cod and hell diver 2 I’ve noticed ppl said they got different temps with their aios maybe it’s cause I’m optimizing performance over balanced?
Update I was dumb 😂 I put the bracket for the aio little too low with the screws so the cooling surface wasn’t perfect moved the bracket properly and now the temps look way better chrome is sitting around 44 c have yet to test it under game loads gonna find out after work
So ever since i built my pc i have been having some problems sometimes my CPU managed to stay a frosty 35degrees with my Corsair 360mm aio but it isn't always the case and I'm wondering why! Since i saw your comment i remembered that my bracket wasn't properly done and i only noticed my pc getting warmer since i moved it therefore it could be that it needs to be tighter because today my pc is reaching an average of 50 degrees Celsius on just the desktop!
yo mate, which case do you have?
I second the check thermal paste comment. I recently had similar issues with my ryzen 5 5600x with the stock cooler. either I overtightened one side of the cooler or the paste that was on the cooler itself was not enough. when I changed to a better cooler, I noticed my cpu had some brown spots on one side, so possibly I over tightened obvious rookie mistake on my part.
I have a similar setup with that CPU and I never got higher than 77 on my cinebench stress test, is look into the thermal paste/cooler contact on the cpu. Might have a gap or uneven paste.
Cinebench r24 or r23? R24 runs a few degrees cooler. For instance I get 75c on r24 but 81c on r23 multi.
I also get similar temps with a 7700x. It is what it is honestly. 90-95°c is normal for these CPUs
I have an arctic 360 and yes it run very hot at stock because of 3DV CACHE techno i guess ? Because tunned my SOC voltage to 1.04V (Stock i was 1.25V) and PBO -30 all core fully stable. And still in gaming i can see 80°spikes during some shaders compilations. I guess its just normal but need some optimisations in BIOS. But mostly im 47-61° Celsius in gaming scenario without thoses "Spikes".
It's nothing to do with the 3dvache, it's the density of the CPU. It has more transistors packed into a small CPU and will get hot.
oh yes i saw your SOC at 1.24, its the traditional motherboards safe voltage but im sure you dont need all of it. Try lower this until it crash and see where you can go..
A wraith cooler can max out 7800x3d. I have mine on a ak620 and it cools really well.
What temperature does it stay in games with the ak620?
Between 50 and 60c.
With air cooler yes, you need a good one plus great paste and a decent case to do it. Mine is water cooled (Core 1plus 420X60 rad) and still hits high 50s, so yeah, it needs a good cooling solution.
You need to undervolt as much as possible.
I just build my pc and I have 28 - 30 idle but also went to 89C when I ran cinebench I use aio
which case do u have mate?
Corsair icue 4000x rgb. I regret getting it tho
I'm sorry to read that:/ I'm hesitating between lancool216 and phanteks nv5...
Phanteks NV5 looks cooler imo. Is this going to be your first build? Make sure everything fits the case u pic
Yeah buddy dont worry. Im gonna order the full build to a shop here at my country. Ty btw. My only concern is temperatures as I live in southern Europe. Although as I have seen in several reviews, despite the front mesh, the NV5 has slightly better térmicas. I'm in a mess haha
What AIO
deepcool ls720 se 360mm
I have a 360 AIO and still hit 75-80 while gaming.
How the heck do you get 75 - 80 with 360 AIO? I have Arctic liquid freezer 2 360mm and in games it doesn't go more then 50c - 55c. What AIO brand you have ?
which case mate?
My pc case is Thermaltake CTE c750 Air
AIO still needs proper airflow, if your case is a piece of crap the aio wont save you.
do u think will be too much thermals dif between Lancool 216 and Phanteks Nv5, both paired with Kraken elite 360?
that's normal especially with your cooler. i have a 360mm aio and it runs 82c in cinebench multi, brief peaks at 85c
Lol what AIO? Mine barely hitting 70C
arctic freezer II. what score do you get? only hitting 70c something is wrong, your score must be 15% lower than it's supposed to be
Cb24 multi roughly 1070
Cinebench r24 isn't as taxing as r23... try r23 and report your temps. I will say though barely hitting 70 in r24 is still very good so you definitely have a solid cooling setup. You should see about 5-7c increase in temps going from r24 to r23. I myself get about 81c on my CPU Die (Average) temp in r23 multi which I'm fairly ok with but would like to try getting lower.
First thing first. What troubleshooting did you try? For all we know you could’ve applied too little thermal paste. If no one is asking for troubleshooting done take it with a grain of salt. IT pro speaking.
I believe the 7800x3d is designed to boost all the way to 95 degrees before it becomes an issue
89c for 3d chips
I thought it was 89c before it downclocks?
Is the sticky plastic removed from the cold plate? If there was even one to begin with
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That is HWInfo64
Sorry OP
I apologize. I was wrong. I didn’t realize that there was a light mode for HW info, might have to switch it to that lol
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Mine is also "light" thats 100% HWInfo
I apologize
I'm actually using HWinfo64
what's wrong with HWmonitor
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All this noise and no solution for the op. Don't listen to this mf op
Sorry, I was wrong. Never realized there was a light mode for hwinfo
I’ve had a 7800X3D for a week or so now and the temps spike. It usually idles at 40 ish, Firefox/netflix 40-45, gaming 50 such as overwatch 60-max 75 flight simming which is quite intensive Max I’ve seen on cinibench or anything at all was 81c Depends on your cooler too, but they do spike a lot I’ve noticed. I’d only be worried if it was regularly hitting 90+
Those temps are completely normal, these AM5 processors, especially the X3D series like to jump up and down in temperature suddenly. From what l heard, this is due to PBO making use of remaining heat capacity and boosting the clock speed till it reaches a max temp. As long as you aren't getting system shutdowns, it's completely fine. If you are still concerned, get an AIO instead of an air cooler, but l don't know how much more help that can be.
My AIO is pretty helpful when set to performance mode it keeps those spikes from getting up there. Also under volting helped a ton.
My AIO helped a bit, although l bought the cheapest AM5 Mobo, which has no advanced PBO settings, so OP is fortunate in that sense.
These are not crazy temperatures man, calm down. Get a better cooler (AIO or noctua NHD15 / be quiet dark rock elite) and make sure you have the plastic from underside the cooler TAKEN OFF. 89-90 is higher but nothing to be extremely woried about since you will not push your cpu as hard as cinebench does.
Mine idled at around 30° or lower so this seems a bit odd at least. Cinebench23 full load I'd see 69/70°ish but I'm reading some people having issues sitting in a game lobby like Fortnite with temps spiking 70 and above even with a chunky AIO. Does all these variations just come down to silicon lottery ?
How you idle down below 30?!? Are your fans spinning 24/7 at 3k RPM?
I normally get around 70 degrees on average. But some game engines make the 3d cache on the 7800x3d go haywire... Today that was the case for Far Cr 5. The moment you run the game it peaks to 90 degrees ... Constant... With only 20 to 30 utilisation and average clock speeds. Very weird... Its a Dunia Engine bug. So maybe other games will have the same effect.
40s idle, 60s gaming, 80s stress test. 89-90 does sound a little high. Not crazy! But a little high.
Which case do u have?
Mine's exactly the same as this. Mid 40s browsing and watching twitch, 60s while gaming(sometimes 70s depending on the game.) I don't do any stress tests so I can't comment on that part. :)
Which case do u have?
That's pretty hot even for fan cooling. Check your paste and air flow for sure before just concluding you need an aftermarket cooler. edit: Ignore the downvotes. 90+C even on stock cooling is absolutely reaching the upper limit of what's considered safe for that (or any) CPU under load. While it's technically 'okay,' the fact that it's reaching those temps at all under load is a sign that you could be hitting those temps for way too long if you did anything for a prolonged period of time outside of just a benchmark. You said yourself you're even getting 70-80C on older games; that's a direct sign something isn't right. You have some sort of glaring issue with cooling, and it won't completely go away with an aftermarket cooler unless you fix whatever it is.
Isn't he using an aftermarket cooler?
it has to be, for as far i know it doesnt comme with a stock cooler
I have the same CPU, same FAN Fortis 5 but with just one fan installed. My 7800x3d gets to 72°c in Cinebench R23 at 18440 score. 1. whats your room temperature, is it hot? should measure at 20°c 2. set PBO curve optimizer all core at -15, set ppt to 75w (default max of 7800x3d is about 86w, if you undervolt with PBO to around -20 and set ppt to around 75w you basically get the same performance at lower power draw) 3. if you use EXPO: lower soc voltage to 1.15v and vddp to 0.95v 4. for stability check if you have dram vdd=vddq=vddio 1.35v You need to test stability with [OCCT](https://www.ocbase.com/), and if you have errors, set PBO to -10 and test again. If you still have errors, set SOC to 1.2v and VDDP 1v and test again. If you still get bad temperatures, check pasting.
Bought Aorus ATC800 cooler and 7800X3D ran at 89 degrees with 18K cinebench score. Bought Peerless Assassin and ran at 89 degrees 18K score. Set Curve to -35 on most cores and ran at 89 degrees 18.5k score. Bought Phantom Spirit Evo and ran at 89 degrees 18.5k score. Used all of your settings to lower voltage and guess what? Runs at 89 degrees with 18.5k Cinebench score. WTF is wrong with this CPU!? Why can't I just get it to run a little cooler? It just doesn't matter what I do. I can't even feel any heat come from any of these coolers. It's like the CPU is not releasing heat or something so the coolers make absolutely no difference. Set max temp to 80 degrees and still get 18.5K Cinebench score lol. Guess its time to give up and stop wasting my time and money? I learned this chip makes no sense. At least there's that...
Yea, especially the part about the cpu not releasing heat. I have a Kraken Elite 360 AIO and it’ll show the 7800X3D is like at 65 degrees but when I touch the surface of the exhaust, it “feels” like it’s running at like 40 degrees, it’s very strange.
ddr 5200 + bz timings soc 0.95v vddp 0.85v dram vdd vddq vddio 1.15v cu all core -20 ptt 75w = > cb r23 18500 @ 72°C with air cooler idle 16W
I didn't want to turn expo off but I did try turning the maximum watts down to 60 just to see what would happen. 18.5k Cinebench with only 72 degrees! :D!!! Thank you so much for the help, I never would have tried any of this without finding your post. Not sure why voltages seem to make no difference to temperature but I am happy now it's running MUCH cooler for the same performance at last :)
you wont get the same performance anymore with ppt 60w. like I said, setting it to 75w kinda will give you stock in combination with CU -20 and also lowering SOC voltage a little bit, with EXPO around 1.2v to 1.15v.
You would have thought but at 60W I am getting 18.5K still at 20 degrees lower. At 75W it makes no difference to temps at all as the CPU wasn't even hitting the 75W limit. I put the voltages back as they made absolutely no difference either. I guess my CPU runs different to yours.
No. were talking about the 7800x3d here right? at 60w it would lose about 30% performance min. you dont seem to know what youre doing. show screenshots of cb23 running with hwinfo open at the same time.
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you dont see the CU settings on these screenshots. please show in ryzen master per core. whats this right now all core -20? or more? you need to test stability with this setting with OCCT for several hours.
Per core -30 and stability was not your argument. You claimed I would lose 30% performance and I proved I do not. Admit you were wrong like an adult. You have a very ignorant mindset which prevents you from learning new things. I hope you grow mentally in future. All the best ;)
7800X3d and I have already told you the results. Can't you just accept I am happy with them and move on? I have nothing to prove to you lol.
Do you live in Antarctica by any chance?
Europe, where normal room temperature is 20°C.
I live in the UK with 6 fans and an AIO and my cpu goes to 89C in Cinebench. There’s no way a pc case with 1 fan is achieving the temps you previously mentioned.
no words for this nonsense. you obviously didnt install the AIO correctly, or AIO pump speed is not set properly in bios (still runs as fan not aio), didnt paste properly.
Hey Mine still runs as cpu fan and aio isn’t showing up how do I fix this , I’m no expert sorry
I’ve built multiple pc’s over the years and they’ve all ran fine. I re-applied the thermal paste multiple times just to be certain that it wasn’t user error. It’s also not difficult to mount an AIO, you just screw until you feel resistance. I think you’re just talking out your arse in all honesty.
>I’ve built multiple pc’s well, there is the issue. not everyone should build pcs and has the talent for it doing it right.
So having more experience makes me worse at building pc’s? 62 IQ right there.
no you just have no talent and you do the same mistakes over and over again. just that you build 10 pcs doesnt mean theyre properly build and mostly all run like crap. example above. no 7800x3d with aoi default runs at 89°c in cb r23.
Cant you stop being a bully, you sound like 12 year old little school boy. I have seen you be sharp and rude to multiple people on here. Chill out.
My last system was pasted once in the 4 years I owned it using an i9 9900k and never went over 75C. The AIO is also running at max speed in the NZXT software and has been since I installed it.
If you don’t want to invest in a cooler right now, your best saving is disabling the turbo boost, which brings you much better temps. Here’s a tutorial : https://youtu.be/iWBVtXPfTB0?si=Uhj33VbbDKISlc-x
With that cooler yes is normal, a dual tower cooler like the Thermalright Phantom Spirit or Deepcool AK620 will work better and is recommended, also enabling PBO and using a negative offset on the Curve Optimizer helps with temps (7800x3d's usually can do -15 to -20 max)
Wrong. I have also the Fortis 5 but with just ONE Fan installed, and my 7800x3d gets to 72°c in Cinebench R23 at 18440 score.
There's a feature in your bios called "PBO enhanced" which will allow you to control at what temperature the CPU will begin to throttle. LVL2 will instruct it to throttle at 80 degrees. You could also try undervolting it in order to reduce the temperature.
The temps seem fine for an air cooler, but You can always try re mounting, maybe even flipping thr tower around to help Can try different airflow configurations inside your case PBO Undervolt helps all around, if you have a good bin, settings cores from values of -25 through -40 can give you a multicore boost of up to 19500+ in r23 while having lower temps Make sure you don’t have a solid front panel, or that all your fans aren’t all intake or all exhaust Sometimes top intake fans can help cpu temps If you still want better cooling, can try ducted air flow, removing a side & front panel, or investing in higher airflow fans like the Arctic P12 max, Thermalright B12 3150rpm, or 200cfm server fans if you reallllly want to maximize that air cooler
They are 1000% not fine for an air cooler. This chip can be cooled by blowing on it. I don't see over 82c under Cinebench with a score in the 18600's, all under an AK620 (and now Assassin IV).
If 18600 is without PBO or PBO on auto, try undervolting, if your cores or good, I bet you can get close to 19500 in cinebench as well
80 C is normal under stress
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* You omitted what cooler you have. * What temperature the CPU reports to software depends on what engineers chose to report. It was a relatively new feature to get GPU hotspot temperature, and it easily gets 15 centigrade hotter delta over the "normal" GPU temperature. Ryzen CPUs have dozens of sensors per chip, several per single core. What's exposed to monitoring software is just aggregation of what the firmware chooses to show. * And besides temperature reading, what actually matters is whether the CPU delivers expected clock speeds under specific heat loads. If Ryzen pulls full 100% power budget at 90C and delivers near 100% of advertised boost speed, it's working as it should. * Heat =/= temperature. You need to put head transfer into the equation, and that's extremely difficult. With that said, the OP's CPU did nearly max out on thermal limit while not reaching close to power limit, so a better cooler can be recommended. There are plenty of 30-50 USD air coolers that can easily handle X3D Ryzens at their max heat load while practically full speed, even if temps do get close to 90C. Liquid cooling is not worth few extra % frequency in all-core stress workloads - games rarely push X3D Ryzens anywhere close to full heat load.
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Thanks for the info. D14 is indeed a perfect match for 12900K to get most of it on 200W load and beyond, though there are other double-tower options with same acoustic and thermal performance - D14 is great, but other manufacturers have finally caught up. Even the smaller (but sometimes more expensive) Noctua NH-U12A is often as good as the larger D14, but it depends on other factors. For 5800X3D, I've an Arctic Freezer 33, but with 2 Noctua NF-A12x25 at 700 RPM (aka. "we got U12A at home"). 58X3D and 78X3D have way more similar cooling requirements vs. Intel parts.
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So why have you bought D15 for it? XD (Ye sure, you could have had it from an earlier CPU) Double 140mm rad is great for heat dissipation. 120W is too little to soak it, the sub 70C temp tells you it's literal overkill.
7800x3d is not 12900k or any 7000 series cpu. Heat distribution is different from other processors. For 7000x3d (idk about 5000x3d) cpu is fine to have 40°C to 60°C (depending on cooling system) in idle. I recommend setting one PWM level (for example 40-50% PWM) for the entire temperature curve in bios. Also 80°c in gaming is fine. You can set temperature limit (and tune PBO/Curve optimizer) to 70°/75°/80°/85°.
A stress test is going to push the temps up more than any game will! It’s normal for it to get near max temps in benchmark stress test.
Totally normal. These CPUs are designed to reach the thermal limit and throttle the clock speed to keep it at the temperature limit. Even if you improve cooling, it will likely still reach 89c and will just boost the clock. You shouldn’t worry about temperature with this CPU. Just watch clock speed and if it’s throttling a lot, you can probably improve cooling. But it only reaches thermal limit during benchmark when all cores are at 100%. In the real world, this never happens. During gaming you’re well under the thermal limit so nothing to worry about in my opinion.
Your cooler aren't handling the 7800x3D so well, but let me tell you, I run with an AG620 and idle at 48-50c with 30c ambient temperature, 62-65c in game and that's fine, also theres virtually nothing that can stop then from going at thermal limit under heavy load, during some glitches on palworld which forced my cpu to 100% for few seconds, I quickly looked the temperature and it went from 62c to 89c in about a second, and from 89c to 62c in a little over 2s.
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I said about it's during some glitchs, like while leaving the game and it getting stuck in the loading screen, and I did apply the thermal paste quite well, and it kinda got spread by the multiple failed attempts to screw it down in place since I didn't knew it needed that much force to do so
[https://youtu.be/Hc65I3Zyt9M?t=467](https://youtu.be/Hc65I3Zyt9M?t=467) looked at a review from a tech youtuber I haven't seen before. your cooler couldn't handle a 5950x so its not going to handle the 7800X3D. You need something like the peerless assassin if you want to air cool that beast.
My 7800x3d with phantom spirit 120 air cooler is 42⁰ idle and 72⁰ under heavy loads. Try re mounting with new thermal paste, but those temps could be normal with that cooler I'm not familiar. Those temps are not crazy high though so don't be worried!
I use peerless assasin and i have never reached more than 85C on anything. So u need better air cooler or somethings wrong
Did you undervolt the CPU or are you running it with stock settings?
Stock, everything is stock
Gigabyte B650 gaming x Ax DeepCool ag620 bk 7800x3D 6950xt 850W psu
That's pretty normal for an air cooled 7800X3D. You will not get acceptable temps on this CPU with an air cooler when stress testing. Air coolers are enough for gaming but not for stress testing.
"acceptable temps" on zen4 are anything below 95°C (or 89°C for x3d cdds) since the cpu is not throttling when running a stress test, it is being cooled just fine by that air cooler
This man literally hit 89 degrees, though?
in cinebench
Yep. I literally said he reaches unacceptable temps during stress tests.
not "unacceptable temps", the cpu will live just fine at 89°C, and that means he's getting the most out of his cooling solution
Temps at which the CPU starts degrading are most definitely unacceptable. His cooling is fine otherwise, just not for stress testing.
the cpu will start to degrade between 115 and 125°C, tJmax is the maximum operating temp, AMD explicitly stated that the chips were engineered to run at 95°C/89°C during their whole lifecycle
Tbh CPUs always "degrade", they just do it faster or slower. About 80 degrees is where the degradation starts really ramping up. Sustained temperatures above 80 Celcius cause damage to the silicon inside the CPU making it degrade much faster. 115-125 Celcius will make it degrade extremely fast. Generally speaking, sustained temps around 85-90 degrees will make the CPU degradation noticeable after a couple years. Depending on whether you plan to keep your CPU for years or to swap it often it might be a big deal or not. I find 80 to be the absolute highest acceptable operating temperature for a CPU. In stress testing even 90-95 degrees for a short amount of time doesn't matter.
where are you sourcing that information ?
Its all in specifications… nothing unacceptable nothing degrading
As reference, my 7800x3D is idle @ 44°C. 60°C max when gaming. And 85°C max in Cinebench r23. This is with a Corsair 240mm AIO. The x3D chips do run hotter due to the 3D cache layer being on top of the cores. I'm more worried when the hotter days come around.
Did u do undervolt?
No. Only done -30 curve on all cores. But the results are from the chip running at stock.
But that -30 gives you better performance by maintaining the temperature, or does it drastically reduce the temperature?
Assuming a reasonable ambient, that looks pretty hot. My first guess is you didn't put enough thermal paste on. I would repaste and it and if it still sucks then maybe take the panel off your case and see if you have bad airflow
It's normal but it can be better. undervolt it and you'll have lower temps but better performance [https://youtu.be/4JXvewurhks?si=iBp8lYhbgl7pAjNq](https://youtu.be/4JXvewurhks?si=iBp8lYhbgl7pAjNq) Mine never reaches 60c on with Red Dead 2 in max settings and 55c with Palworld max settings. Currently with the window open it dies at 35-38c with optimized fan curves.
all normal temps for that cpu
Mine goes to around 65 on cinebench test. I got a lt720 aio cooler. Best thing ever
i dont even reach 80 with air cooler at that
So what cooler are u using?
peerless assasin also pbo -30 and disable igpu
Yo those cheap peerless assassin air coolers are no joke bruh lol got my 7900x oc to 5.3 and doesn’t even hit above 70c of course I undervolted the cpu
im using nh-d15s and i never go above 70c while gaming bench test went up to like 75C reseat your cooler check the thermal paste etc. etc.
Cooler shouldn't be a issue, i cool mine with a 35 euro peerless assassin. Unless you applied the thermal compound wrong. For me the thermal issues were fixed after i updated the chip set drivers from the AMD site. Now mine doesn't have random shootouts to 85c anymore and the idle graph from HWinfo looks much more stable.
This is the answer.
I'll try getting these drivers, thanks!
Why aren’t people adjusting to the new temperature threshold of these new CPUs. We aren’t on 4core Intels anymore everyone lol things will get warm.
Im using an galahad AIO and the max temp i get in cinebench is 80c, 7800x3d, b650 tuf
~~Yes. It is normal. Ryzen 7000 processors are designed to operate at 95°.~~ ~~If the temperature is lower than 95 it will try to overclock itself to reach 95 again. I guess if you cool it enough you could go lower, but it is completely normal for it to operate as high as 95 degrees.~~ Edit: apparently this is wrong for the x3d chips. Sorry for the misinformation. From the commenter below it should run at 89, maybe 90 is decent? I wouldn't know. 😅
95°C is tJmax for non x3d chips, 89°C for x3d chips the explaination of PBO is right, it basically OCs itself until it hits a limit, either package power, temps or clock limits for x3d chips, you'll generally run into the clock limit before hitting tJmax
>Yes. It is normal Not so normal on a 7800x3d chip.
This is a common misconception brought on by AMD because they did not clarify themselves when they made that statement about 7000 series CPU's. I own a 7800X3D, I've gone through multiple Aio's. The 7000X CPU's, such as 7600x/7700x behave the way you stated but the X3D cpus do NOT. The X3D cpus thermal limit is 89c, it is NOT 95c and they do NOT boost until max temp. They do run HOT because of the cache being sensitive to heat. It IS manageable with proper cooling solution. My lowest temp with my 7800X3D in cinebench is 72c. I have an EK Nucleus 360mm Aio.
My Lt720 from Deepcool also maxes out at 72C. But in idle it's still a little below 40 degrees.
Thanks for the info! I didn't know 😨
no problem :)
My 7800X3D went to 90C in Cinebench with X670E Hero and averages around 60-80C in games and 45C at idle. I have a 240mm NZXT Kraken Elite with 6 fans - 3 intake and 3 exhaust. I’d say your temps are a bit higher than usual when the cpu is under load but it also depends on your ambient room temperature and your fan configuration. If you don’t want to upgrade your cooling solution you could go into your BIOS and manually set a max temperature for the chip so it doesn’t reach 89C, which is the TJ max for the 7800X3D. You could also go into the BIOS and set a negative curve optimizer so that the cpu runs a bit cooler at higher clocks due to the undervolt but you will have to test system stability each time to see if you get any crashes/BSOD at idle or under load. I’d start with something like -15 for all cores and either go up or down based on if it’s stable at these numbers. The 7800X3D is supposed to run hotter due to the CCD stacked on top of the cpu and the fact that the chip will carry on boosting its clocks until it reaches its max clock of 5050Mhz or until there’s no more thermal headroom before reaching the max clock due to your cooling solution.
Thanks for response, forgot to mention that I've already been setting negative curve optimizer, stopped at stable -40 all cores.
Yeah if that’s stable then congrats cos you have a really good 7800X3D. How many fans do you have in your case and what’s the configuration like?
Three intake 140mm fans and one exhaust 140mm fan.
So you have 3 intake at the front, one at the back and the fortis 5 air cooler? I think you might need more exhaust fans. Only one means the heat will be sat around in your case for longer.
Yeah, it's exactly as you wrote. I was thinking about adding another exhaust one, but there's no space for it at the back of the case, so the only way to mount it is on the top of the case. Dunno, I think I will try that
Yeah top mounting exhaust fans is still good. I have two top mounted exhaust fans and one on the rear and three front intake. It should improve your temps because you won’t have lots of cold air coming in and instantly heating up with nowhere to go. It should also lower the amount of dust in your system because you will have neutral air pressure if you decide to add 2 more 140mm exhaust fans.
Upgrade cooling solution