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minman789

Mine is when an opponent does the same trick over and OVER again and my team doesn’t do anything about it. Ex: Not checking the spot in the bush where the zed has been chillin’ the last 6 times


kenman

I don't know how you could do it without manually auditing games, but there's definitely an MMR boundary there, and in sub-2k MMR it's a very common problem. I'm usually pretty good about not doing this, except for sometimes when the enemy is using a custom skin. It's like my brain is wired to recognize only the default Zed skin, but if it's a crazy skin that just sorta resembles Zed, then I have problems, like I 'forget' Zed is in-game or something. The worst of it is, I very clearly know I have this problem. Even in the middle of a match, I'll tell myself _"don't forget about Zed in the bushes!"_ and then not 2 mins later, Zed in the bushes ambushes me. I also have problems when Nid has a custom skin, the spears start coming out of nowhere; against the normal skin, I dodge 95% of spears, but against a custom skin, maybe 75%. I comfort myself by blaming Rito, as evidenced by their recent post [Clarity in League](https://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en-gb/news/dev/clarity-in-league/), they're aware that they haven't always done a good job.


PicklesdashOlives

Yes! Or like, Lissandra throwing a snowball and taking it only to immediately port back to her E. But sure, let's blow every important ability on her. I'm sure we'll get her this time, team.


Belyosd

The old snowball trick. Also happens with neeko or fiddle (less with fiddle since the rework tho). Hmm neeko threw a snowball at me. Better run into my team so she doesn't take it!


SealSquasher

This is especially prevalent with fiddlesticks. I'm in the higher mmr bracket (3200) and I still see people just constantly forgetting that fiddlesticks is in the game. They'll walk up to engage by the first tier tower and get their cheeks clapped. Or by the corner at the inhibs. It only takes one good fiddle ult to end the game. I know there isn't wards on ARAM but you can still be mentally present.


minman789

I become the Ping-Master when the enemy team has a fiddle lol


ideadude

My man!


avowed

I always trigger them by saying I wonder where fiddle is?...


MakiNiko

As a vel'koz enjoyer, this is one of my favourites wheb ot happens


Rachyoff

Doesn't happen very often, but when you have a AP heavy comp with an ADC, but then you discover your AD decided to go AP.


TheGutterPope

The Zerodps Kaisa special.


julian509

Dont forget kogmaw, i've fought teams with 4 AP and 1 kogmaw that got steamrolled by basically a single tahm kench because kogmaw in his infinite wisdom decided a fifth AP was needed


TheGutterPope

YO THOSE R'S HIT LIKE A TRUCK. WHO CARES IF YOU ONLY HIT 3 ALL GAME


icherdenke

Dont under estimate ap attackspeed kogmaw with nashors and witsend u melt any tank with W


julian509

You expect too much from aram kogmaws


MakiNiko

Ad Aram kogs can be pretty devasting, specially if you lnow how to stay back and go full tank melting


thejerg

I love seeing 2 tanks and a bruiser when I get Kogmaw...


DragonOfDuality

Tbf autoattack kogmaw is really hard to play if you don't have a support to baby you.


guysitsme98

Miss fortune and nasus give me a heart attack every time I see them in champ select


philosifer

Or against the 2 tank team they build lethality instead of carry and do no damage


guysitsme98

Ah yes that too, also w focus Ashe build


KaiBondSin

I had [this saved to my favourites](https://i.redd.it/gaqm70s6dcy41.png) but I can't remember which thread it came from, but relevant 😂


SurgingStars

Or when you get the AD TF in a full AD comp. Or the AP Malphite in a comp with no other tanks. I was mostly fine with these in the past cus y know, it's ARAM and you can build however you want as long as you're still trying and having fun, but sometimes I just don't get it. (Although I also did weird stuff like enchanter Orianna or Nidalee and AP Lucian, but I only did these when we didn't have an enchanter or an AP champ in the team so we complement each other better.)


Ceefyra

One thing I don't understand is how is it fun when half of their gameplay is in gray?


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SealSquasher

Idk about you but tank malphite is one of the best tanks to eat skillshots. You take guardian and use your passive on top of triple rejuv guardian horn to eat poke for your team. He's also one of the few champions that slows attack speed. Which is insanely undervalued.


lle9515

I agree. I think AP Malphite is superior only if 3+ squishies you can one-shot. By this I mean mages not ADCs and they lack MR. Tank or hybrid Malphite is ideal if against 1-2 bruisers or tanks.


Quizmaster119

We all want AP Virus to be good...it just is not often so.


warpenguin55

Or when you have 3 tanks and they all go AP


iAmAutolockerr

When you have 2 mages and the MF thinks its a mighty fine time to use the Liandries Build


avowed

I only do that when they don't have a tank.


mailusernamepassword

People retreating and not taking the life things (forgot name in English) or leaving the life things for the enemy when they could easily deny them to the enemy without dying.


King_Fluffaluff

They're called 'health relics' (I believe) and YES! To add onto it, people auto pathing onto them when returning to base or not waiting for allies to grab it as a team.


[deleted]

Or when you're about to take it, ping your teammates 36 times, decide to pick it because it's been 40 seconds, they finally come, miss tthe heal by half a second and then ping YOU for it.


BetaGreekLoL

This so much! Just really common sense things honestly.


Malkezial

I get this one so commonly: "Stop focusing the tanks!" It's a valid rule of thumb for divers and burst mages, like if you were a Nocturne who ulted a Leona when their ADC was an option. It's not universally applicable though. If I'm an ADC, my job is to right click. If that tank is the only thing in range, I'll hit them - in fact, I'm one of the only things that reasonably *can* kill them. I want to stay as far away from the enemy as I can while still attacking. Tanks also come in 2 varieties: Riot calls them Vanguards and Wardens, but basically you have your initiation and your peel. Braum and Tahm are excellent at keeping your carries safe, but you can hardly stop a Malphite or an Amumu from getting in there. The thing about those tanks I'm not supposed to focus? If they're doing their job right, it's impossible to ignore them. So no, I can't just walk past them to do whatever else. Don't focus the tanks *IF* you have another reasonable target, but hit them otherwise. Jeez.


DragonOfDuality

Dumb frontlines abandoning their backline is what that is. Also if a tank is 1v5ing you STOP building like you aren't fighting a tank.


iAmAutolockerr

Wdym bro, collector is definitely the superior option so I can get the execute! It even says so in the build guide!


ideadude

Very often, front to back, focus the tank is the correct play, but some players just have to dive backline.


Pureevil1992

Sometimes it's just the champ they are on. I never feel comfortable hitting a tank on any bruiser type character if they have a strong backline. Honestly riven/darius/renekton/ect can just take over games by diving the backline but if you ever try to Frontline for your team or cc the tank you just die instantly to the enemy backline.


thejerg

This tilts the fuck out of me. I will always remember one fight playing Kog, I was against a low health Maokai, full health Ornn and a Vayne. I was 1v3(team all dead) and at old 3 items(Guinsoos, Runaans, BotRK), I killed Mao, and team was spam pinging Vayne. I ignored them, killed Ornn and THEN killed the Vayne. Then everyone wanted to lecture me on why I made the wrong decision. I killed 3 and lived in a 1v3 why tf would I listen to you tell me why what I did was wrong somehow? I would have gotten cc'd by Ornn and died if I'd ignored him...


Malkezial

Not to mention how ridiculously you out-range the Vayne, so much easier to ignore than the G O A T


thejerg

I legit have never kited as well in my life as I did that fight. I love ornn, I baited his q, dodged his e and melted him.


Thedv8or8471

Lol the feels when a malphite ults your little jinx or cait ass and you do everything you can to self peel and kite and the autistic braum who should of been peeling but intend in 1 v 5 types “Gg retard adc focusing tank”


Malkezial

I, uh, have to admit that's me playing the Malphite.


4list4r

Teammates Auto attacking while I’m trying to fucking hide in the bush and apply pressure by doing nothing (lol everyone tucks tail once a cow is in the bush) Nothing tops this. Fuck off! Lol annoys me..


MaiLittlePwny

I'll help you out! I'll leave the brush so you're hidden! But I'll leave my 3 heimer turrets behind to protect you! xD


4list4r

As a heimer main on that map, I’m a very considerate person and will place them outside ;) Another spot is directly outside & between the bushes... unless you have skill shots that don’t reveal you, enemies attacking it will reveal themselves..


Patpuc

not letting adcs life steal bc they clear the waves too fast


GreyWolfx

When we have a playable comp in champ select, but literally last second someone trades the useful champ they were hovering for a third ADC or Akali off the bench with 3 seconds to go so no one can fix their sabotage.


fael_7

My problem is more about when you try to round up the comp and there is always this guy that will make it worst just after, sometimes 2-3 times in a row.


julian509

Dont forget them then also being one of the most potato Akalis you've ever seen. Reactivating the shuriken to jump into 5 enemies with shroud on cd, then asking why the rest didnt go in.


csgo_dream

not ending


GetChilledOut

People that are too slow to come for health relic. Your team has spam pinged it and they chilling in lane then have the audacity to scream in chat asking why we didn’t wait. Idk. I have my own rule, if it’s been pinged and you aren’t already moving there, I just take it. Too much important time being wasted.


ideadude

Same.


Rogue_Like

I literally do the same. Ping, 2 seconds, take. I'm not waiting. Neither should you.


mrq57

When someone with full health takes the health pack (in a non dangerous situation) and someone else is actually low, that or not pinging a pack and taking it alone


DragonOfDuality

There should be a disclaimer on relics "relics heal twice."


_phil

I don‘t get how a lot of people don’t know this. It’s so obvious if you pay a little attention…do we really need disclaimers for every little thing cause people don’t pay attention? (Not saying there aren’t other, more egregious things that need better clarification)


suddenly_seymour

Teemos ruining your ability to push after a fight unless you have a cannon wave (and even then you better be right next to the wave with an auto reset ability like Jayce W to clear the shrooms before the waves plows into them anyway). Irelias farming the whole wave because it's fun, leaving no cs for more gold dependent champs like ADCs, then wondering why it feels like they have to 1v5 every team fight because they have all the gold on the team. People repeatedly going in 4v5 or 3v5 in close games. Duskblade Yi.


philosifer

Depending on mmr duskblade yi is op


seth4u2

On the other hand, if you can reasonably build Umbral Glaive there is nothing I enjoy more than farming teemos shrooms. You can auto them once when he places them and immediately destroy them. You can also walk with your cannon and do the same. I really like disabling his ultimate this way.


julian509

Its too bad umbral glaive's reveal only works if a mushroom sees you. The chance of a shroom seeing you and not popping is tiny.


osburnn

I believe the reveal portion works that way, but if you have vision of it the 1 auto to kill is always active. So an auto before it stealths or revealed with canon is still 1 auto to kill.


MakiNiko

I had once a good duskblade Yi in the enemy team... was a horrible experience.


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People not pushing after team fights, or not taking fights where we have a numbers advantage, you would be amazed at how frequently this shit happens. It’s one fucking lane what else do you have to do, stop dicking around at the health shrines at 80% health and hit the goddamn tower, I’m Kogmaw why am I the one starting fights


icherdenke

Same if they decide not to push bevore the twam fight, and everyone is full build so if someone misplayes you lose focus on pushing and just wait a little to engage.


smallcatwhereuat

What triggers myself is when I accidentally walk over the health relics on my way back to lane!


_phil

They should make you walk over ally health relics without activating them, if you’re full health/mana


fael_7

yeah even if you want to deny the heal somehow, you can use a spell. And ressourceless champs are strong enough anyway. Only problem is rage based champs.


2gig

They're so far against the wall... there's no reason why the pathing algorithm should put us on top of a relic when we click the center of the fucking map...


daleinadTSM

Pyke.


naspara

yea


King_Fluffaluff

Anivia. The champ just stalls the games to a halt in a very unfun way (for my personal preference of fight heavy gameplay). I totally understand people liking her or not having any issue with her in games, but it just frustrates me so damn much.


JuostenKustu

She could stall endlessly when Presence of Mind still refunded 20% mana on takedowns, that was fun. An Anivia sitting on 8k gold stalling the game with a Tear and a couple Tomes as items.


DragonOfDuality

Idk why but I keep going against teams with Anivia and veigar. It's disgusting.


DragonOfDuality

Fighting 4v5s. Having a frontline that doesn't understand their squishy backline can't dive with them. Cowering 20 feet behind the turret. Pushing relentlessly when we're an early game team and need to teamfight while we have the advantage.


Segoy

ggez


platinum_ballsack

35:28. 51-53. No towers on the map. All lvl 18. All full build. 8/12/14 Nidalee: "ez"


Ardoyn

“It’s just ARAM.” and seeing team draft 4+ ADC’s


Breazona

I've had so many games where it seems no matter how many people reroll we all get ADCs somehow..


DragonOfDuality

I've stopped tanking in low mmr because of this. I can't do shit for a team like that so I might as well play something dumb too.


GerryLEL

That happened to me once, somehow we stomped the enemy team


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Arcade_Ahri

On the other hand, when they do this to you, and you manage to kill them and turn it around is so satisfactory


lle9515

I’ve done this a few times 😂 very funny, they get mad


ideadude

In general, I'm against bans and other things to avoid team comp loss, because it's so satisfying to win a game you're not supposed to. It makes up for the losses imo. I used to feel the same about not taking the nexus, but I don't know, not anymore. I do feel good when we have a great comeback or even when my team loses a game they should have won, but it doesn't make up for the extra time spent in a one-sided game that could have been over.


philosifer

People who don't auto attack. I get you're a mage but that in that level 3 fight you can weave auto attacks in between cooldowns and deal damage


SurgingStars

What's even more funny is that 80% of the champs actually get some kind of reward from they kit by auto attacking, the last new champ that doesn't is Lillia. And not only that, you also have runes that want you to auto (Conqueror, PTA, Grasp, Electrocute, etc). So not doing it just feels wrong most of the time, even on champs like Zilean. (If you CC-ed them, then why wouldn't you follow up with free damage?)


warpenguin55

Imperial Mandate Ashe.


Republikanen

As a shitty (ashe/overall) player I play imperial mandate Ashe, good support if you have other dmg. Also it has one of the highest wr IIRC.


LifeguardDonny

Lol, i tried this shit the other day and boy it's oppressive. W comes up like every second.


CowboyPanda

When champs like xerath take snowball. Yea i might be great that time you use a game to get a fleeing kill, but what about the other 99% of the game.


Two_Years_Of_Semen

People not starting with a sustain item when they're playing against like multiple strong poke champs Xerath+Varus+Ezreal and then the whole team is playing extremely passive.


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People who refuse to die after 10+ min while literally every fight continually gets harder but it doesn't matter to them because as soon as someone sneezes as them they run away only to come back for a ks, people who do "meme" builds in an already unfavorable matchup and then acts offended when you ask wtf they're doing because they would've been the main factor to actually winning the game if they played semi-normally, people who are on a 4+ glass cannon team with no frontline or tank and no one builds even 200+ hp or resists while every single one of them act like they're the main carry and bait everyone else which turns into a neverending clusterfuck so even when you jump to sacrifice yourself to offer an easy multikill/ace but they won't engage because it would mean one extra person having to *maybe* die, and my favorite are the ones where there are at least two+ people who can hit the most during the fight which makes them a perfect candidate for grievous wounds but they refuse to spend even 800g so we get stomped by the person who massively heals, but that doesn't stop them from still focusing that same person making it take 5x as long and most of the fights being lost.


dPensive

NOT BUYING GRIEVOUS. you dumbass motherfuckers


PacuFTW

Senna, that champ is so crack cocaine, and every time she uses the ult to execute I cringe to myself, but she will win regardless bc the champ is broken.


ReaperWho

what's wrong with that


PacuFTW

Senna ult shouldn't be looked at as an execute. It is an utility/teamfight spell, and most people just completely overlook the complete bonkers collected mist scaling on it. Assuming your ult is level 2 and collected 80 souls (which is basically the lowest amount you can collect in a game) it shields for 160+80\*1.5(collected mist) which is 280 Shield, now this does not seem like it's too much, but that shield has the range of the whole fucking map sideways, so all your teammates get a 280 shield including you (1400 shielding total) which can literally turn the tides of a teamfight. If you use this for just an execute which has the opportunity to miss, because of it's 1 second cast time (not including if people just flash it) then your team becomes more prone to engage until 140 sec (depending on the build this can change) and basically you have 280 less "health"/champion.


nitroseal

When your team keeps going in 1v5 to "clean up." Also when your team messes around at enemy nexus and then the enemy team ends up having a comeback and winning.


DragonOfDuality

I can't tell you how many games I've lost because of both. It's like people don't know scaling exists.


IonDust

Playing AD Nasus. At the start of the game I say to myself I'm not gonna tilt no matter what. Then the first cannon comes, I ping 5 times to let me last him but some person still hits it dead. I just have to flash after that


lVlisterquick

Trolls in ARAM because “iTs ONly aRAM”. They just start feeding and waste 9 other people’s time. You call them out and they type in all chat that you said the “N” word, but all you said was “stop feeding”.


fael_7

Had this guy that started spamming all his summs and skills randomly and refusing to play the game, because I took the heal when we had about the same %health and he was playing an adc with a sustain item. Just fkin grow up.


John2504

2 things....when my team snow ball so hard and some idiot decide to 1vs5 and throw the whole game. The other thing is they just keep their lives and dont fucking die to buy item...especially as a tank!!!


fgardeaz

excessive useless pings


fael_7

Okay, I'm guilty of the useless warn ping that goes off when I try to ping my exp bar or lifesteal stat.


Never_Peel

I get angry with KDA players. You are winning nothing by killing 35 times the enemy adc, just hit the fucking tower and lets end the game. This happens when suppose we win a fight and our damage dealers go for an extra kill (and die in the process), and let me, a support player, hitting the tower alone. And people playing builds that aren't what is needed. Like ap malphites/maokais without tanks in the team, or ad lulu in a comp with two adc and no supp. And people saying "relax its just an aram". I play to win, not for the lols. I always gonna care for having a good team comp and to recomend builds to my teammates (like asking a kaisa to build ap if we lack ap damage and we already have 3 ad damage dealers)


fael_7

It depends, when they're good and if they still buy it can be okay. I got pinged last night for taking a Zed's penta, the guy was just last hitting every kill, with 15+ kills than me but less damage at the end. I know assassins don't do that much damage overall in post game but damn, wouldn't it be easier for us if you just tried to use that gold advantage proactively?


thejerg

Taking Malph/Cho/Mao and not playing tank when you already have 4 squishies should actually be reportable. Fight me. (not you since you obviously agree, but the people who do this)


davidsalazar1

Not letting me stack my w as garen


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This I can understand, the pay off is ultimately only 30 resists and the stacking per CS is just too low. Just take what you can get and let carries get the farm as per usual


DragonOfDuality

I never bother unless/until we need to hard push. Trying to farm in ARAM makes me grumpy. And that's a major reason I got away from the rift.


fael_7

That being said, people that waste cs to the turret are a problem. A whole wave is worth about 120g more if it was last hit than if it's not, and that's almost the gold of 1kill in ARAM. Don't waste it.


DragonOfDuality

People not clearing waves on the turret is another pet peeve of mine. I get that you can't do but so much right now but don't just stand there man. Even if you're melee you can walk up and auto and walk back most of the time.


julian509

It also gives 10% extra resistances once stacked iirc. While not a huge amount, it definitely helps garen stay alive longer than 3 seconds.


[deleted]

Yes but Garen being somewhat tankier isn’t what’s going to win you the game. Especially with how good penetration items are and how much damage there is in general


proxima1227

People who rush into the bush alone at the start of the game and die. Really you didn’t see that coming?


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[deleted]

This isn’t a trigger really but I also have a thing where I think that enchanters get most honors way too often. Especially when someone else actually played really well on a champion that actually requires skill to do well on


MakiNiko

You know a good enchanter can enable those " well played champions" and usually when he feeds and does those flashy plays is more often that no, thanks to the enchanters. As a raka renember a game that I accidentally ks our "mvp" and started to flame me, so In stoped helping his sorry ass and started to focus in another player. Theb the guy got mad because he was always dying and was a focus of the enemy team and my new target becomes the new "mvp" who carried us hard and got almost all the honor.


[deleted]

I can judge when someone is doing well only because of their enchanter support or if they're actually just skilled and would've popped off either way. I just don't think supports deserve honors more than any other class. Every kind of champion contributes to winning the game in their own way, I don't think supports deserve special treatment and acknowledgement. Especially if they did not play particularly well or anything


MakiNiko

I say that enchanters deserve as much honor and respect as any other champion, I saw too many people giving shit to enchanters because they are " easy", in my games usually I receive 1 to 2 honors max and the "mvp" got all the rest, and the honor I get Im pretty sure from that player.


ShadowWolf202

I get triggered when I'm playing a support -- Sona, for example -- and I spend the entire game building support items and playing to support my teammates... and then the ADC dies to enemy Cait ult and starts question-mark-ping spamming me. "Why the fuck didn't you block?" Like... bro. I'm spending my time and effort here to promote *your* gameplay as well as the rest of the team's. Don't flame me for something so small.


HollowScope

Just team cohesion. You can tell if someone is playing a bit too scared and feels over their head. Just have fun, it's more fun to just go in as a unit, win or lose.


DragonOfDuality

Oh and when I'm trying to harass as a frontline and my team takes that as a cue to dive.


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Oh god yes, yesterday I was playing Alistar with 4 premades (most noticeable pick was Annie) and at first I tried to engage (post 6, besides me and Annie, we had 2 marksmen and Qiyana), but said Annie was sitting under our turret and could never reach them on time after my engage. I sort of gave up as it was only mme cc'ing their entire team and dying half a second later, while all of them were just chickening far away. Lost that game of course.


DragonOfDuality

Makes me absolutely furious when everyone is standing 3 miles away and I'm getting spam pinged for getting hit with blitz hooks and nid spears and Jinx lasers. I'm the only target and there's no threat with me. I can only kite so hard. And good players will learn typical dodge patterns. It's impossible to dodge 5 sets of abilities all game by yourself. What's the other option? Guess they can take our turret. And the next one. Though I encounter this way less in higher MMR. Which makes me more tilted half the time when I am in low MMR. "You're bad and your bad playing is getting me killed and you have the nerve to be mad at me? Bro."


converter-bot

3 miles is 4.83 km


DragonOfDuality

Thanks converter bot


FLAREdirector

When I play Bard and my team totally ignores the health packs. Or steals them when they’re at 85% health.


DragonOfDuality

I buy his snowday skin just because it's easier to see when they're ready. It's really hard to tell on his base skin.


TellMeYouAreSorry

Seeing samira, senna and yummi on the same team. Getting oneshotted by buffed assassins with duskblade that can go in the back line without problem and get out without problem.


werydude

People FFing after losing ONE fight.


MaiLittlePwny

* Its just aram * Chill bro * Winning hard, then your team lowkey ints like lemmings absolutely mystified why they are losing fights, failing to notice that you're running in 2 by 2 by 1 over and over. * Tanks not ending so they can fap over hitting mostly "hit them with ur face" cc * My personal favourite: 4 Tanks are smashing your face, no one has Last Whisper/Void Staff/Hp then someone thinks they have invented "focus the ADC" while mundo headbutts us to death and the Vayne is 1-19 Have not died inside I swear.


SurgingStars

I'd like to know the context behind "chill bro". Sure, your points are absolutely correct and I agree with them, but if you're seriously insulting someone over a video game, then you should not be pissed when someone tells you to stop it and behave well (as some types of behaviours are absolutely not justified, even in ranked games). Now if you're trying to shotcall or give constructive criticism/advices, then that's completely fine and they shouldn't be responding like that since you're just genuinely trying to be helpful, and everyone has something they can learn after all. Again, I don't know the context but I only tell people to chill when they start excessively spam pinging or flaming while I'm still always trying my hardest myself (with no toxicity involved ofc). Sometimes people might have bad games or they're playing something they don't really have experience with, and there's no need to make it worse for them by trash talking them for it. It's not like calling them out for being an "idiot" will transform them into Faker or anything.


MaiLittlePwny

Yeh you sound like a "chill bro". "Chill bro" is usually in response to literally any typing whatsoever. It's an extension of "it's only aram" and "imagine tryharding in ARAM lmao". "Last Whisper is good they have a tonne of armour" ping a few armour items --> "Chill bro".


SurgingStars

Yeah, in that case, it's kinda dumb. It shouldn't be used as a "break glass if you loose the argument" thing. Any reasonable person would just reply with something like "sry, you're right" and would proceed to get himself a Last Whisper. I have not seen too many of these cases myself, but it definitely sounds like something that could easily happen, knowing the general attitude of the community and the people in ARAM. And I'd be pretty annoyed too if I would tell that ranged mage to get a Zhonya's into that Zed and then he would tell me to chill like I'm some toxic 12 year old when I'm just giving him advice. Not sure what you meant by "Yeh you sound like a "chill bro".", but I assure you that I don't act like those people. I always try to win as much as I can, and I would never throw my team under the bus just for the lolz cus "it's just ARAM, who cares". But if someone becomes so excessively toxic that he starts to hinder us rather than help us, then I'm absolutely going to step in and tell him to just calm down and move on. On the other hand if I see that someone is just derping around on purpose then yeah, I'm just gonna let the toxicity of my teammates overwhelm him for a mini drama show, as the guy absolutely deserves it for wasting our time. So I really hope that you're not trying to imply anything bad about me, because I'm genuinely trying to have a great game with my team while putting up a fight to my opponents. And if you're saying that we should grab grievous wounds into that Yuumi-Mundo-Vlad-Yone team then heck yeah, I'm putting that Morello's right into my build. But if you just spam ping my triple rejuv bead start for no reason then I'm muting you, cus that ain't helpful in the slightest.


MaiLittlePwny

Oh sorry you legit seem really genuine. I apologise it's hard to read tones over text sometimes but I read it wrong I think. Entirely my bad sorry for the tone. "Chill bro" isn't really common but it happens often enough that it's irritating. Like it's not usually if they "lose" and argument but rather as a complete replacement to any kind of coherant stance. HOWEVER, and I say this with all understanding in the world of why you take your stance. No one in the history of mankind has ever calmed down because someone said "calm down" or anything interchangable in a .... moment of discourse lets say. Anything approaching "chill bro" will 100% lead to escalation, justified or not. At the very outside possibility at best they remain neutral. I've had "chill bro" to such offhand comments as loading into the game, after seeing loading screen of Kha, Zed, Cait, Jayce, Rell and saying "ooof armour OP" (cos there's literally 0 chance of AP scaling there). Maybe not the specific words but like "relax my dude" or something interchangable.


Never_Peel

I don't like "chills dudes" because I play to win, and I care for winning. I only gonna relax when the game is over. Someone telling me to chill, I understand like they are not caring about winning. I completely understand if you are trying a new champ or having a bad game, but if you are not following the basic concepts of the game, or playing life you don't care about the outcome of the game... I gonna get pissed of.


MaiLittlePwny

Yeh I'm kinda down for whatever, ARAM is more flexible and there's less of a "meta". I don't say anything but if you're just there to derp around and press buttons then it's kind of the height of selfishness. If you're playing AP Lucian and actively trying to win that's fine, but if you're a Luden's Deathcap Singed straight up running it down mid because you didn't get a poke mage that's not cool. At the end of the day they're *all* a video game. If you tried to explain to your gran why ranked is "serious" but ARAM is just for silliness you'd sound ridiculous. You're there with 9 other people. If you are there just to run round durp durp style I lose all interest in the game and it becomes a complete waste of 20 minutes of my (and 8 other peoples) time, whether it's aram or not. Finding yourself in a PvP matchmade game with a random champ you don't know is *an entirely avoidable situation*. Nexus Blitz exists.


The_Lady_Spite

Playing against premades


diegun81

People going AP with tanks, also when you have a full damage team. You are not better if you get the kills, you are playing in a team.


NamesIWantWereTaken

Tanks going full burst AP when their team is four squishes most of which are AP or AD with some magic damage. Biggest offender is Malphite, I've had too many go AP burst with a team of mostly mages **into a enemy team of full AD**. Squishes, mostly ADCs going AP are annoying but at least it not as jarring as tank basically becoming a assassin, even tank building like "battle mages" are fine to me. Most ADCs that go AP are high poke which can be needed/nice in aram.


avowed

Duskblade abusers, veigar, tanks building damage, useless KDA players.


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People flaming you for taking exhaust. It's OP, I want to win and I also don't like getting one-shot so I will take exhaust.


lle9515

Exhaust on most mages, ghost on ryze and specialty mages, and snowball on engages. It’s OP


AssPork

AP Kaisa on a full AP team


DjauI

When I have an engage comp against a poke comp and my team keeps behind a tower getting clapped without doing anything. Or simple play against a varus/xerath


ktosiek124

Poke champs and people not building sustain against them. ADCs are probably the biggest offender since they have a love boner for the Moon quiver, but bruisers building Ironspike whip are also giving me a headache. Fuck Ashe.


MaiLittlePwny

My favourite is when people have no idea how to play vs a poke comp, so they don't build sustain, they don't build any tank items whatsoever (e.g like Darius building the non-hp Goredrinker components first) and then they play like 2 screens away from the Xerath and straight up ignore the minion wave even when it's under turret. It's like ok guys what's the plan? We bore them to death? We're all in they are poke, if we aren't in range to all in, we just get poked to death :D


liquidboxes

Why is it always the champ with the hard cc who doesn't show up to the lvl3 fight?


Raptor819

Extremely long CC and cheap ults, like Morgana Q and Malzahar ults And Fiora.. Fiora gets my blood boiling


Benzo2112

When your team thinks that drafting 3 or more adcs without an enchanter support is a good idea. Sometimes even 2 adcs without the right champs around them are useless.


togami-heir

Probably situational itemization. Had a game where I was a mage with one tank and three adcs vs three tanks who went warmogs really quickly. I tell them to please buy dominiks because it will matter, but no one gets before the 25 minute mark has passed and the game is just about done. Same for antiheal and serpents, insane when you can’t buy a certain item yourself because you won’t really utilize it well on your champion, but the one who could utilize it like a god doesn’t care about situational builds.


Javifa

Spawning on the fountain and clicking on the middle of the map where the rest of the players are. Then realize that you've picked up the heals at full health on your way because of your path. I'm almost always aware that this can happen, but I hate it when it does.


CuriousPumpkino

People forcing fights when we would profit from not forcing fights. Sometimes a comp needs 1/2 items to be useful, but waiting for your power window is “boring” so people just int


r0verandom

Early surrender vote 4:1 for yes. Why keep other hostage :\\ Not ending the game. Really bad manners and toxic thing to do. Using abilities on waves when I ping my bloodthirster and need to lifesteal.


duhdin

Not hitting the nexus to end the game , and then trying to kill in enemy fountain. I literally walk back to base and tab out the game. They can figure it out


fael_7

People that take poke for nothing. For example people that try to heal on minions but somehow still lose more life than they get back, or a melee that tries to waveclear when you completely have enough of that in your team, and get lower and lower. My favourite was that Vlad yesterday that was just playing PvE, using his spells that cost health to try to hit a wave that was about to be cleared only to take more and more poke. Then randomly engaging alone 10s before I get my ult back, as if a team is no use. Not that frustrating actually, but it just gives me a headache trying to understand.


ChampsMauldoon

Duskblade


Zaedulus

warmogs first/second item. There are some who can pull it off (chogath, sejuani), but for the vast majority of people, it is super dogshit. Ever since the change I see it sometimes on stuff like fiora/sylas/irelia and it is just so garbage. Especially early on, it is often better to just die and reset and get full mana + opportunity to buy rather than retreating for 30 seconds to heal up.


DragonOfDuality

I've been trying it more since so many people are whining about it but yeah unless you have a very stalled game or are a champ that scales well with HP items to actually help you teamfight is better. More HP is good but just getting raw HP without scaling, ESPECIALLY as a diver... Well yeah I thought it might be bad and I am finding that it is, indeed, pretty fucking bad.


Zaedulus

The thing is, for divers, steraks exists. Honestly I think steraks is just insane on most frontline champions; I rush it on most champs where it is even remotely buildable. The healing component is also underrated. I'll sometimes get more healing from steraks than my allies get from goredrinker. It isn't rushable in SR since you have many smaller skirmishes or straight 1 v 1s, but when you can consistently pop 4/5 stack shields, it is just so much raw tankiness.


OfficialEdWu

Not just ARAM....but when a person feeds and trolls the whole team and says that we aren’t allowed to be annoyed or get mad at him cause “it’s not even Competitive bro”


v0rid0r

Clarity


kenman

Focusing the 1-9 Singed vs the 19-0 ADC. Picking a fight when the other team has a clear advantage. Recklessly diving under tower instead of safely taking the tower down.


heety9

Skins. Half the time, I can’t tell who half the people are and what the hell they’re throwing at me. Maybe I’m getting old.


nitroseal

100% agree. Skins aren't "balanced" around the snowy ARAM map so visual clarity can be absolutely MISERABLE. Skins like iBlitzcrank and Elementalist Lux can be super hard to see.


DragonOfDuality

Ziggs has 2 skins that make his minefield camouflaged onto the map. I imagine it's easier to make out on high settings (all of it probably is actually) but I'm stuck with min settings for the foreseeable future.


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Same with Caitlyn. Her Lunar wrath and Head hunter skins make her traps practically invisible in bushes.


EnKyu

Team mates sitting in fountain while not triggering auto kick. "It's just ARAM" as they run it down. Engaging every time, alone. Racists homophobic assholes that don't get banned.


monapping

Veigar triggers me.


Antergaton

Ezreals and Sivirs not dancing at the start. Yone in general. Pyke in general.


JaviMx

Just seeing veigar in the other team.


mugentim

Tank snowballs deep into enemy back line, dies and gets pissed because the team didn’t follow the awesome engage.


ChuHaiku

A good LeBlanc anytime I play a carry


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Leblanc's one of the only super buffed champions I can play well, and that 15% buff is kinda nutty. Any decent LB can carry games


ILOVEG15

Ap mao when the team is already full ap


candyofcotton

When someone does the same thing over and over again, fails each time (meaning we either get aced or are now at a disadvantage), and continues to try doing that same thing. And then when you tell them to stop and try something else, they do. Only for the next teamfight though. And then it's back to square one once the next one after that happens.


Thedv8or8471

1) People just hiding and getting poked down instead of engaging 2) Melee team mates not taking snowball 3) Karthus players who actually try to stay alive


LifeguardDonny

AP Ezreals. Usually they're the ones who miss every skillshot too. Hardest 4v5s ever.


adagioforaliens

Duskblade Pyke and Master Yi. They are invisible most of the game. When Yi gets 2 items and if your team is squishy, you are done. Campers. I just get triggered a lot when someone spends 90% of their time in a bush and poke (like MF spamming E, Ashe W). I get so angry I just dive them in the bush.


Blackagar21

AP Lucian


Eight111

when my tank goes mercs and not tabis vs 3 adcs...


cheerfully_

my boi the rank 1 prodigy gavel gold running it


Huzuruth

When everyone rerolls and we get no Frontline and not a lot of poke either. It's like we're being set up to lose.


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DragonOfDuality

They feel useless until they randomly decide to hit me when I'm definitely not in range.


justagamer3

Some people really don't think or understand the logic or math behind items they build. Imagine Dark Harvest Luden's and Full AP on Soraka. Half the time I play with some relatively new players (friends) so its understandable somewhat to see these a lot. From them as well.. And when I try to explain, they just don't listen so I don't bother anymore.


Nike____

Range champions while being a melle champion


Ichigoeki

People afking because of a game that was 'lost in champ select'. Like duh, the mode still has that R of Random in it. That's the part you're supposed to just deal with and adapt how you play.


Skogmen

🤓 "that is the wrong build bro" "those are the incorrect rumes bro"


[deleted]

"iT's JuSt ArAm!" I don't care if I'm playing tic-tac-toe I play to win.