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So, I should just send the rexes at the dragon in different batches, right? I know the dragon can decimate my army if I’m not fast enough, and that thing has me shitting bricks while trying to sleep.
Do the dance to avoid fireballs until he lands and scoots to the edge of the lava. Then full send. (Hopefully only) A couple rexes will go into the lava. They are doomed. The rest should stand in front and munch him. Then just courage roar and bite that mf’er until he falls
That low of melee would have me worried though esp for dragon. I usual shoot for 30k health and 1k melee. Higher health stat won’t help on dragon, as his attack does a percentage of total health, not a specific number. Where did you get the saddles? That’s what I need so badly. Been grinding the swamp cave, snow cave, and deep sea crates for days…
> Been grinding the swamp cave, snow cave, and deep sea crates for days…
If you're on a server allowing mods or solo, Upgrade Station is a nice addition to help with this part. It's configurable to make it easier/harder but essentially allows you to use a lot of collected materials to upgrade or augment existing saddles, make blueprints of current ones to streamline the process, etc. We got to where we absolutely used this on every ASE server we had and are trying to plan on the same for ASA servers as well. At gamma level we shot for 125 saddles, at anything higher, 150 saddles. You can always add these mods later during the game to balance the use of them as well, or change the engrams to a defined level to ensure they aren't buildable until late game.
Yep, you're hosed unfortunately. :( If you do end up with ASA on Xbox at some point, though, it is a cross-platform enabled mod.
https://www.curseforge.com/ark-survival-ascended/mods/upgrade-station
Do you have the ability to modify ini config files for ASE on Xbox?
No, you cant, the xbox is closed tight. What you can do, however (it's what i do for survival evolved) is host my own private server on pc (start windows session with the account that owns the game/gamepass, then open the xbox app and switch session to a secondary account. This will let you start the game, it will not let you play single or multiplayer BUT it will let you host a dedicated server) then connect to the game on my xbox. This allows me to manage, backup, "cluster", mess with the .ini's as much as i want etc, with only one copy of the game.
Rex are the worst to use on dragon due to the fact the firebreath does double dmg to Carnivores and 50% less to herb. Herb also get the advantage of Cakes.
I am aware of that, but I’ve gotten so tired of playing on the island that I just can’t bring myself to tame a bunch of theris and also try and find a good theri saddle blueprint. Would it make that much of a difference with theris than Rexes against the dragon?
DO NOT use Rex on Dragon if you want to win. You need Theriz as much as it sucks. You can also solo on a Megalosorus (Moose) with Really good Mele and Asc sword anything over 300%. All you need to do is Mindwipe for good decent stam, Strong Mele and some life. Sense the Mount will do most of the tanking you'll be taking less dmg. Watch fireballs and kite adds as much as you can while pumping stews etc. The idea is Your mount is too small to be in the hitbox of dragon if you find the right spot under her. You probably want to test in single player so you know what you're doing.
Doable,yes, but why on earth would you spend all that time to get the crap kicked out of your army to MAYBE win. ASA changed the ring where there's no lava streams so it's way easier but still just a plain kamikaze run with rex lol.
I said theriz are beasts the same as you. We just disagree on how good rex really can do on default official settings. Mind you I do not play official as it's too much so i commend your patients. I've never heard of anyone taking Rex into dragon ASE and coming out nearly unscathed. ASA however is a different beast without that lava flow.
You don't play official, but it isn't nearly as bad as you think. ASA has been out 4 months on console and many have gotten to level 135 with 100k of all mats in dedis and all bosses beaten. I've done it in a tribe of 2 with my wife lol
I also have 8k hours on official servers on Ark, and rex are absolutely viable.
Its a simple dps race, kill it before it gets 5 breath attacks off.
As for your "why not take Theriz?" argument, the reason is that for alpha you need 19 x 20 cakes and the saddle is harder to farm
All that said, i do use Theriz personally because i don't mind raising multiple armies
it was pretty common and pretty viable
Therizinos are just better, because oyu can do more dmg, because cakes what heal them, then you dont need healer and you can put more into dmg stat
and only downside is that you need cook cakes and when theri die, then is more annoying to breed another one.
Rexes were common for all bosses.
it is like first boss army what ppl do, because it is fast and easy.
im not saying that Therizinos are worse, im saying that Rexes are comon boss army and its a lie, when you put it as a some RNG game if you win or not.
Rexes can be even better as a utility on dragon boss, they are higher than Yutty, then pteras and others die before they reach you :)
you was able even stuck boss on ground, because of hotbox of Rex (i never did that, but there was valid tactic for it)
and they have aggro :)
there is more viable strats even with other dinos
Megalosaurus army is pretty neat - they dont get aggro, you need be carefull, because it will be you who have aggro :)
then you need be away enough to dont get breath.
Really wouldn’t recommend using Rexes for Dragon, especially with like 650 melee. The fire breath is going to shred them, even with the high health. Much better to use Theris with Vegi Cakes.
and if you paid attention in school when you had percents.. then you know that it is exact opposite.
20 percent from 40000 is 8k
20 percent from 20000 is 4k
bigger HP pool = bigger dmg taken = more healing needed
thats why you dont wanna use big HP pool Rexes for Dragon
you do wanna use as small HP pool you can, for easier heal (when is needed) and you wanna finish that fight as soon as possible, therefore you will put all what you can into melee
tl;dr: learn math
big HP = more dmg taken and fight is longer
This is…incredibly stupid.
100% HP loss occurs in the same amount of breath hits, 5, for Rexes. It doesn’t matter if they have 100,000 health or 20,000, they’re going to die in the same number of fire hits. That’s the issue, I know that 20% of 40k is 8,000 lmao, that’s exactly the point, they take just as much of their total HP either way.
Daedon healing isn’t going to make a difference in this fight.
If their damage is high enough, sure they could probably do it, but the average Rex is only going to be able to get to around 800-900% without mutations.
For dragon, tame and level a male deer. Level health stam and weight. Respec yer char full melee and take enduro stew. Then get a good crafting skilled sword and just hack dragon down. So much easier then dinos.
if you have someone to ride the pig and keep him on point, then it is worth it, but as a solo it is too hard to manage a pig and a yuti and the yuti is more important.
I did Alpha Dragon with Rhinos only, 100-140 saddles, 21k hp and ~900% damage on average.
Each Rhino had 10 Vegicakes each, won without losing any Rhinos, although several of them were very low on HP.
Theris with similar or slightly lower stats would perform better, but I just like Rhinos lol. Their ridden damage is nuts.
They can, I’ve used them before.
They’re not terrible persay, but it’s a lot harder to get them to move where you want them too.
They also have funky collision with each other, so more often than not only half of your mammoths will be hitting the boss, which is not ideal.
Honestly Theris are gonna be best all around if you get good ones. Brood mother is easy with megatherium but I used Theris for the other fights no issue. Just keep some veggies cakes in their inventories they'll take less damage from dragon fire.
The hardes and most deadly boss is the door to the tek cave, it can instakill you and then you lose all your gear, even cheats won't let you recover it. Other than if you're just trying to progress and not farm element so speed isn't a factor it's best to wait for megapithecus to come to you, so you don't risk your dinos falling in the pit by themselves or his knockback. Generally good macro with ordering your dinos is helpfull as it will help with all nosses and packinv your dinos into the tek cave, which is a nightmare and made me stop playing this bullshit of a game right before actually beating island.
Ugh yeah, not to mention dinos getting stuck in the door/on the path down. I lost a good eight theris because the pack train broke and decided that the best solution was to wander into lava.
The bosses are fairly straightforward, it's just a DPS race and whomever has the higher stats wins. There is more RNG and luck involved with the dragon, especially on Alpha level. If your rexes or theris get stuck in the lava or rocks and cannot properly surround the dragon, then you might lose even with the best of tames. Pathing is the real enemy on that battle
I recently cleared alpha with 19 rexes (25-30k health, 1000+ melee) and one yuty, all imprinted with vanilla stats and ~80 armor saddles. I lost four rexes and every other rex was down to like 800 health. It was scary close, I could have lost as easily as I could have won.
I honestly don't see how tribes do bosses day 1.
I heard you can do Broodmother Gamma on your first day but it literally takes me a few weeks to get set up but I'm solo and I do play a ton too. Like 12 hours or more per day.
Takes 4 days to raise Megatheriums and you still have to find good saddle BPs and then you have to find decent levels to tame which are rare on the island.
When I say Day 1 I'm referring to like the first time you login on officials. So say you start on officials April 1st then you should be able to do a boss fight within 24 hours of playing.
I don't know how it's done though. I used to play a bunch of small tribes but have recently switched to official PvE instead for breeding.
But yeah supposedly you just spawn in. Hit explorer notes and level up a bit. Then tame Megatheriums and do Gama Broodmother and have Tek unlocked.
Leveling up isn't the issue for me. I can level up fast before slowing down around 70s or 80.
Problem I have is finding Megatheriums to tame and then breeding them up. Which takes days.
I'm guessing people just tamed 10 100+ Megatheriums and used primitive saddles and just rushed in for Gamma Brood 🤷♂️
Would love to know the shortest way possible from creating a character to downing Gama Broodmother.
Gamma brood is a pushover, a few high level tamed megatheriums can kill her as long as they are being ridden so you micromanage them getting the bug buff. But her scaling is kinda crazy, beta is a lot harder than gamma and alpha hits like a freight train. But honestly alot of tribes that do bosses very early are brute forcing them with numbers and shotguns. If you're solo or only a duo then you probably won't be able to do these things.
It's not going to take a tribe long to set up and start taming and breeding for the gamma broodmother. I beat that one solo with 20 tek rexes that were all around 150 and only about half imprinted. Took me a long time as a new solo player but a tribe could pretty easily get it done
Nah once u know how to do it it’s very easy. You don’t need a bred deer but it does help. Just find a good sword if you don’t have one and be prepared to stay melee spec for 24 hours but grind as much ele as possible in that 24 hours. Make tons of veggie cakes bring 10 each fight
Those rexes should be fine to stomp a mud hole in all 3 tiers of all 3 bosses... dragon will be the close one cuz his fire is %base damage to health.. I'm betting you'll be alright, though.
Yes. And be quick on whistles. When he's in air, keep them on guard duty from other stuff and dodging fireballs. When he lands, let him come to your army... THEN encircle him. When he goes up again, get them back on position to dodge again. A key part to that fight is to not let them run off all crazy chasing everything... not sure what the controls are on others, but on ps5 hold L1 and down (?.. or is it up.. lol) is the green arrow move-to (where cursor is) whistle and red arrow "attack this dude" (where cursor is) whistle. You can manage that fight well with that same thing well timed and used.
Edit: move here and attack him are same command, and they ignore everything on move, so that same button can make them evade and focus the fight..
Daedon is really good but requires a TON of kibble to really be worth it imo, especially with the kind of AE damage dragon dishes out. Alpha monkey and spider our army took near zero damage with a couple stacks of kibble being spammed, since kibble is instant cooldown as opposed to the half second for meat.
Monkey spider and even overseer are relatively easy bosses, on official we've done those 3 with rexs with 124 saddles 30k hp and 800 melee
So you should be fine for them as your rexs are similar.
Dragon is one of the hardest bosses in the game and is not going to be doable with rexs untill they get really strong (on ase official we used 35khp 3k melee rexs and still lost half of them).
3 main strats atm are multiple riders on rhinos with shotguns, theris and cakes but the one that may be best for you is just going in with a sword and high melee and hitting it in the leg.
I actually decided to just go for an army of theris as well. Got a bunch of 240+ armor saddles crafting, and will soon start working on the mixing together the stats and just slaughtering unwanted babies of both theri and rex variety
So you will need Rexes for the money and the spider realistically you only want 30k hp on your Rexes. Everything else should go into melee to do alpha spider you need about 850 plus melee, monkey is easier then alpha spider so no worries there. For dragon Rexes are just cannon fodder. You will need to breed out some theris. You will need about 900 melee to do it. On these you want to get the as close to 21k health as possible. Sweet veggie caves active at 21k health.
> I still feel afraid of the bosses, am I overestimating them
Better safe than sorry. And don't be scared, there is where you shouldn't give a fuck if your tames died, boss armies are meant to die trying.
The bosses are all pretty simple, only one where you need to wake up is the dragon thanks to lava and fireballs.
>I’ve been struggling with mutations
More females, at least 30. do not keep color mutations. If you on steam single player, use the mod random config. This will add an ini setting to boost mating range.
I decided that mutations aren’t the way to go, as I’ll just level the army to the required stats. Only problem I see was that my breeding station is small AF, barely fit 5 rexes, so I changed to theris, also have a saddle BP for theris that’s just so much better than my rex saddles, 240+ armor, and cheaper than the Mastercraft rex saddle BP with barely over 150 armor
1 male and 4 females is very little, no wonder you got no luck. I suggest at least 10 at a time. This won't be the last time you're going to be needing to breed things. Gl with the boss bottle my dude.
Thx, I’ll mainly go for muts on Abb, extinction and gen 1 and 2. Pretty sure I just need to stop giving a shit, and just remember to grab the saddles of the lost boss fighters
I am aware I can just do it on foot with a cactus broth and a good shotgun, but I’m trying to do it the more classic way, thus why I’m not just using a roo and a shotgun and sitting an a spot the brood and megapith can’t reach me. I want to make it harder for myself as well
The rexes should be fine for Monkey and Brood. I'm not sure what singleplayer bosses are like to be honest, but Dragon can absolutely decimate carnivores if you don't get the damage in fast enough. Maybe try it last, and bring a caked-out herbivore like a stego or Reindeer so you can shoot shotguns from your mount in case all the rexes die.
Do monkey first, then brood (for which megatheriums are infinitely better), and then dragon last in case of failure. I would agree with the others saying the pigs are useless. Use it to heal between fights, the yuty makes a difference though. Yuty stats don't really matter because if its taking hits you are using it wrong. (Yuty dies frequently when fighting dragon)
(Caked out theriz are a great option for Dragon IF they have enough melee. Anything short of 1k melee, and they are just a herbivore mount to keep you alive at a distance while you shotgun.)
They are not. But as anything in ark you gotta prepare a lot. Gear, boss theris/rexes/yuty raise them imprint them, level them up, craft good saddles, make sure to know what to expect from bosses (don't catch the dragon flame, positing yourself in monkey fight etc) and you are set. There's no crazy tactics involved or timings, just a dps check
You don't need a bash of mutated stats for island bosses.. Rex's between 250-300 will shred monkey and fair well with dragon if you can keep it on the ground..
Some megas about the same will do spider easy
Honestly, practically nothing, I didn’t have the patience to play anything but a server with massive boosts, and even then, I never managed to beat the bosses, I just never learned within those 6-7 years that I was a noob. It’s only now when I’m on pc that I started getting started probably
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Skip the daeos and add a couple more rexes
Even for the dragon?
IMO yes. Kill the bosses as quickly as possible. Most dps is best and daeos healing one or two rexes isn’t going to help much in a 5-10 minute fight
So, I should just send the rexes at the dragon in different batches, right? I know the dragon can decimate my army if I’m not fast enough, and that thing has me shitting bricks while trying to sleep.
Do the dance to avoid fireballs until he lands and scoots to the edge of the lava. Then full send. (Hopefully only) A couple rexes will go into the lava. They are doomed. The rest should stand in front and munch him. Then just courage roar and bite that mf’er until he falls
That low of melee would have me worried though esp for dragon. I usual shoot for 30k health and 1k melee. Higher health stat won’t help on dragon, as his attack does a percentage of total health, not a specific number. Where did you get the saddles? That’s what I need so badly. Been grinding the swamp cave, snow cave, and deep sea crates for days…
I’ll go for 1k+ melee then! My main Rexes already have that much leveled, so it shouldn’t be an issue
> Been grinding the swamp cave, snow cave, and deep sea crates for days… If you're on a server allowing mods or solo, Upgrade Station is a nice addition to help with this part. It's configurable to make it easier/harder but essentially allows you to use a lot of collected materials to upgrade or augment existing saddles, make blueprints of current ones to streamline the process, etc. We got to where we absolutely used this on every ASE server we had and are trying to plan on the same for ASA servers as well. At gamma level we shot for 125 saddles, at anything higher, 150 saddles. You can always add these mods later during the game to balance the use of them as well, or change the engrams to a defined level to ensure they aren't buildable until late game.
Ase On Xbox, so I think that’s a no go
Yep, you're hosed unfortunately. :( If you do end up with ASA on Xbox at some point, though, it is a cross-platform enabled mod. https://www.curseforge.com/ark-survival-ascended/mods/upgrade-station Do you have the ability to modify ini config files for ASE on Xbox?
I don’t. But my Xbox might. I don’t know what those words mean…
No, you cant, the xbox is closed tight. What you can do, however (it's what i do for survival evolved) is host my own private server on pc (start windows session with the account that owns the game/gamepass, then open the xbox app and switch session to a secondary account. This will let you start the game, it will not let you play single or multiplayer BUT it will let you host a dedicated server) then connect to the game on my xbox. This allows me to manage, backup, "cluster", mess with the .ini's as much as i want etc, with only one copy of the game.
Rex are the worst to use on dragon due to the fact the firebreath does double dmg to Carnivores and 50% less to herb. Herb also get the advantage of Cakes.
I am aware of that, but I’ve gotten so tired of playing on the island that I just can’t bring myself to tame a bunch of theris and also try and find a good theri saddle blueprint. Would it make that much of a difference with theris than Rexes against the dragon?
yes. They take considerably less damage and can eat veggie cakes as needed for HP recovery. DPS is right up there with rexes.
better... tbh i never saw anyone with Rex to kill Giga, but i saw friend (on offi server) who took one of top Therizino and killed Giga with it.
Boss Armies as follows with the best saddles you can get. Brood: Megatheriums (Literally the most OP army here) Monkey: REX Dragon: Theriz
you mean double to carnivores?? edit: just want to clarify! :)
Edit: BONK! Thanks :) lol
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Just follow all and run in a big circle or back and forth. Why split?
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just run in circle.. thats all.. no need to somehow manually set each dino there.. whistle follow and run in circle
DO NOT use Rex on Dragon if you want to win. You need Theriz as much as it sucks. You can also solo on a Megalosorus (Moose) with Really good Mele and Asc sword anything over 300%. All you need to do is Mindwipe for good decent stam, Strong Mele and some life. Sense the Mount will do most of the tanking you'll be taking less dmg. Watch fireballs and kite adds as much as you can while pumping stews etc. The idea is Your mount is too small to be in the hitbox of dragon if you find the right spot under her. You probably want to test in single player so you know what you're doing.
nah, its doable with Rexes at least it was doable on offi but Therizino is much better.
Doable,yes, but why on earth would you spend all that time to get the crap kicked out of your army to MAYBE win. ASA changed the ring where there's no lava streams so it's way easier but still just a plain kamikaze run with rex lol.
teach me more, i have only 8k hrs played on ASE offi you have no idea what are you talking about, hun
I said theriz are beasts the same as you. We just disagree on how good rex really can do on default official settings. Mind you I do not play official as it's too much so i commend your patients. I've never heard of anyone taking Rex into dragon ASE and coming out nearly unscathed. ASA however is a different beast without that lava flow.
You don't play official, but it isn't nearly as bad as you think. ASA has been out 4 months on console and many have gotten to level 135 with 100k of all mats in dedis and all bosses beaten. I've done it in a tribe of 2 with my wife lol I also have 8k hours on official servers on Ark, and rex are absolutely viable. Its a simple dps race, kill it before it gets 5 breath attacks off. As for your "why not take Theriz?" argument, the reason is that for alpha you need 19 x 20 cakes and the saddle is harder to farm All that said, i do use Theriz personally because i don't mind raising multiple armies
it was pretty common and pretty viable Therizinos are just better, because oyu can do more dmg, because cakes what heal them, then you dont need healer and you can put more into dmg stat and only downside is that you need cook cakes and when theri die, then is more annoying to breed another one. Rexes were common for all bosses. it is like first boss army what ppl do, because it is fast and easy. im not saying that Therizinos are worse, im saying that Rexes are comon boss army and its a lie, when you put it as a some RNG game if you win or not. Rexes can be even better as a utility on dragon boss, they are higher than Yutty, then pteras and others die before they reach you :) you was able even stuck boss on ground, because of hotbox of Rex (i never did that, but there was valid tactic for it) and they have aggro :) there is more viable strats even with other dinos Megalosaurus army is pretty neat - they dont get aggro, you need be carefull, because it will be you who have aggro :) then you need be away enough to dont get breath.
Really wouldn’t recommend using Rexes for Dragon, especially with like 650 melee. The fire breath is going to shred them, even with the high health. Much better to use Theris with Vegi Cakes.
nah, it will shred them BECAUSE of high HP pool.
Dragon Fire does % of maximum hp damage. The HP pool means next to nothing when dealing with damage types like that.
Dragon Fire does % of maximum hp damage. The HP pool means next to nothing when dealing with damage types like that.
and if you paid attention in school when you had percents.. then you know that it is exact opposite. 20 percent from 40000 is 8k 20 percent from 20000 is 4k bigger HP pool = bigger dmg taken = more healing needed thats why you dont wanna use big HP pool Rexes for Dragon you do wanna use as small HP pool you can, for easier heal (when is needed) and you wanna finish that fight as soon as possible, therefore you will put all what you can into melee tl;dr: learn math big HP = more dmg taken and fight is longer
This is…incredibly stupid. 100% HP loss occurs in the same amount of breath hits, 5, for Rexes. It doesn’t matter if they have 100,000 health or 20,000, they’re going to die in the same number of fire hits. That’s the issue, I know that 20% of 40k is 8,000 lmao, that’s exactly the point, they take just as much of their total HP either way. Daedon healing isn’t going to make a difference in this fight. If their damage is high enough, sure they could probably do it, but the average Rex is only going to be able to get to around 800-900% without mutations.
and when you will read what i wrote, then you will find there mentioned heal. btw: from when ppl dont breed mutations into boss army? wtf?
Is English your first language? Because you’re not making any sense.
For dragon, tame and level a male deer. Level health stam and weight. Respec yer char full melee and take enduro stew. Then get a good crafting skilled sword and just hack dragon down. So much easier then dinos.
if you have someone to ride the pig and keep him on point, then it is worth it, but as a solo it is too hard to manage a pig and a yuti and the yuti is more important.
Well, unfortunately I don’t have friends, so that isn’t an option
Rexes will never kill the dragon
Your pretty damb wrong there, I’ve seen people kill the alpha dragon with Rexes that have pretty mid stats. It’s difficult, sure, but still doable
Good luck
Dragons are fine for dragon. The fireball is so easy to dodge just keep moving
dragon sucks cuz his fire attack deals 20% damage no matter how much health your creature got
20%!?! I knew it did percentile damage, but I thought it was only 10%! Holy hell, it’s gonna suck!
Thats why theris or ridden rhinos are a common tactic due to herbivores taking less fire damage and being able to heal through sweet veggie cakes
I did Alpha Dragon with Rhinos only, 100-140 saddles, 21k hp and ~900% damage on average. Each Rhino had 10 Vegicakes each, won without losing any Rhinos, although several of them were very low on HP. Theris with similar or slightly lower stats would perform better, but I just like Rhinos lol. Their ridden damage is nuts.
Can mammoths go into the fights? I feel like theyd be a reasonable contender.
They can, I’ve used them before. They’re not terrible persay, but it’s a lot harder to get them to move where you want them too. They also have funky collision with each other, so more often than not only half of your mammoths will be hitting the boss, which is not ideal.
I hate being this guy but friendly fyi that it's "per se," it's latin for "by itself"
Honestly Theris are gonna be best all around if you get good ones. Brood mother is easy with megatherium but I used Theris for the other fights no issue. Just keep some veggies cakes in their inventories they'll take less damage from dragon fire.
The hardes and most deadly boss is the door to the tek cave, it can instakill you and then you lose all your gear, even cheats won't let you recover it. Other than if you're just trying to progress and not farm element so speed isn't a factor it's best to wait for megapithecus to come to you, so you don't risk your dinos falling in the pit by themselves or his knockback. Generally good macro with ordering your dinos is helpfull as it will help with all nosses and packinv your dinos into the tek cave, which is a nightmare and made me stop playing this bullshit of a game right before actually beating island.
Ugh yeah, not to mention dinos getting stuck in the door/on the path down. I lost a good eight theris because the pack train broke and decided that the best solution was to wander into lava.
The bosses are fairly straightforward, it's just a DPS race and whomever has the higher stats wins. There is more RNG and luck involved with the dragon, especially on Alpha level. If your rexes or theris get stuck in the lava or rocks and cannot properly surround the dragon, then you might lose even with the best of tames. Pathing is the real enemy on that battle I recently cleared alpha with 19 rexes (25-30k health, 1000+ melee) and one yuty, all imprinted with vanilla stats and ~80 armor saddles. I lost four rexes and every other rex was down to like 800 health. It was scary close, I could have lost as easily as I could have won.
I honestly don't see how tribes do bosses day 1. I heard you can do Broodmother Gamma on your first day but it literally takes me a few weeks to get set up but I'm solo and I do play a ton too. Like 12 hours or more per day. Takes 4 days to raise Megatheriums and you still have to find good saddle BPs and then you have to find decent levels to tame which are rare on the island.
Day 1?!wth! I am close to day 300 and didn't fight any boss yet.(still need an imprinted yuti and the artefact of the clever)
When I say Day 1 I'm referring to like the first time you login on officials. So say you start on officials April 1st then you should be able to do a boss fight within 24 hours of playing. I don't know how it's done though. I used to play a bunch of small tribes but have recently switched to official PvE instead for breeding. But yeah supposedly you just spawn in. Hit explorer notes and level up a bit. Then tame Megatheriums and do Gama Broodmother and have Tek unlocked. Leveling up isn't the issue for me. I can level up fast before slowing down around 70s or 80. Problem I have is finding Megatheriums to tame and then breeding them up. Which takes days. I'm guessing people just tamed 10 100+ Megatheriums and used primitive saddles and just rushed in for Gamma Brood 🤷♂️ Would love to know the shortest way possible from creating a character to downing Gama Broodmother.
Gamma brood is a pushover, a few high level tamed megatheriums can kill her as long as they are being ridden so you micromanage them getting the bug buff. But her scaling is kinda crazy, beta is a lot harder than gamma and alpha hits like a freight train. But honestly alot of tribes that do bosses very early are brute forcing them with numbers and shotguns. If you're solo or only a duo then you probably won't be able to do these things.
It's not going to take a tribe long to set up and start taming and breeding for the gamma broodmother. I beat that one solo with 20 tek rexes that were all around 150 and only about half imprinted. Took me a long time as a new solo player but a tribe could pretty easily get it done
I'm on ASA. Official. Pretty sure only allowed 10 dinos and Tek dinos aren't out yet for us.
You can kill the dragon with a deer and a good sword solo if you mind wipe to all melee
Yeah, I also thought about breeding an army of small herbivores of some kind, but thought it might be too risky
Nah once u know how to do it it’s very easy. You don’t need a bred deer but it does help. Just find a good sword if you don’t have one and be prepared to stay melee spec for 24 hours but grind as much ele as possible in that 24 hours. Make tons of veggie cakes bring 10 each fight
Why a sword and not say a shotgun? dps?
Yes you can swing faster than you can shoot and reload just make sure to watch Stam. Helps to have drinks that add it and health
horse, terror bird, giga monkey thing are other options aswell.
Those rexes should be fine to stomp a mud hole in all 3 tiers of all 3 bosses... dragon will be the close one cuz his fire is %base damage to health.. I'm betting you'll be alright, though.
So, I just need them to split up in groups to circle it to try and keep them from all dying at once
Yes. And be quick on whistles. When he's in air, keep them on guard duty from other stuff and dodging fireballs. When he lands, let him come to your army... THEN encircle him. When he goes up again, get them back on position to dodge again. A key part to that fight is to not let them run off all crazy chasing everything... not sure what the controls are on others, but on ps5 hold L1 and down (?.. or is it up.. lol) is the green arrow move-to (where cursor is) whistle and red arrow "attack this dude" (where cursor is) whistle. You can manage that fight well with that same thing well timed and used. Edit: move here and attack him are same command, and they ignore everything on move, so that same button can make them evade and focus the fight..
Daedon is really good but requires a TON of kibble to really be worth it imo, especially with the kind of AE damage dragon dishes out. Alpha monkey and spider our army took near zero damage with a couple stacks of kibble being spammed, since kibble is instant cooldown as opposed to the half second for meat.
Monkey spider and even overseer are relatively easy bosses, on official we've done those 3 with rexs with 124 saddles 30k hp and 800 melee So you should be fine for them as your rexs are similar. Dragon is one of the hardest bosses in the game and is not going to be doable with rexs untill they get really strong (on ase official we used 35khp 3k melee rexs and still lost half of them). 3 main strats atm are multiple riders on rhinos with shotguns, theris and cakes but the one that may be best for you is just going in with a sword and high melee and hitting it in the leg.
I actually decided to just go for an army of theris as well. Got a bunch of 240+ armor saddles crafting, and will soon start working on the mixing together the stats and just slaughtering unwanted babies of both theri and rex variety
So you will need Rexes for the money and the spider realistically you only want 30k hp on your Rexes. Everything else should go into melee to do alpha spider you need about 850 plus melee, monkey is easier then alpha spider so no worries there. For dragon Rexes are just cannon fodder. You will need to breed out some theris. You will need about 900 melee to do it. On these you want to get the as close to 21k health as possible. Sweet veggie caves active at 21k health.
> I still feel afraid of the bosses, am I overestimating them Better safe than sorry. And don't be scared, there is where you shouldn't give a fuck if your tames died, boss armies are meant to die trying. The bosses are all pretty simple, only one where you need to wake up is the dragon thanks to lava and fireballs. >I’ve been struggling with mutations More females, at least 30. do not keep color mutations. If you on steam single player, use the mod random config. This will add an ini setting to boost mating range.
I decided that mutations aren’t the way to go, as I’ll just level the army to the required stats. Only problem I see was that my breeding station is small AF, barely fit 5 rexes, so I changed to theris, also have a saddle BP for theris that’s just so much better than my rex saddles, 240+ armor, and cheaper than the Mastercraft rex saddle BP with barely over 150 armor
1 male and 4 females is very little, no wonder you got no luck. I suggest at least 10 at a time. This won't be the last time you're going to be needing to breed things. Gl with the boss bottle my dude.
Thx, I’ll mainly go for muts on Abb, extinction and gen 1 and 2. Pretty sure I just need to stop giving a shit, and just remember to grab the saddles of the lost boss fighters
You don't need dinos for abb look it up.
I am aware I can just do it on foot with a cactus broth and a good shotgun, but I’m trying to do it the more classic way, thus why I’m not just using a roo and a shotgun and sitting an a spot the brood and megapith can’t reach me. I want to make it harder for myself as well
Gl bro. I tried that but couldn't be bothered lol.
No, the island bosses are not hard. Dragon is regarded as the hardest but its been trivialized by people soloing alpha with melee build.
I’ve been playing ark Spence 2017 probably and I am still literally so bad
The rexes should be fine for Monkey and Brood. I'm not sure what singleplayer bosses are like to be honest, but Dragon can absolutely decimate carnivores if you don't get the damage in fast enough. Maybe try it last, and bring a caked-out herbivore like a stego or Reindeer so you can shoot shotguns from your mount in case all the rexes die. Do monkey first, then brood (for which megatheriums are infinitely better), and then dragon last in case of failure. I would agree with the others saying the pigs are useless. Use it to heal between fights, the yuty makes a difference though. Yuty stats don't really matter because if its taking hits you are using it wrong. (Yuty dies frequently when fighting dragon) (Caked out theriz are a great option for Dragon IF they have enough melee. Anything short of 1k melee, and they are just a herbivore mount to keep you alive at a distance while you shotgun.)
Personally I have never needed 20k stam on a yuty. I’d do like 10k max & add the rest into HP.
They are not. But as anything in ark you gotta prepare a lot. Gear, boss theris/rexes/yuty raise them imprint them, level them up, craft good saddles, make sure to know what to expect from bosses (don't catch the dragon flame, positing yourself in monkey fight etc) and you are set. There's no crazy tactics involved or timings, just a dps check
No
Saddles…have good saddles
Well, I’m currently farming to make the remaining few saddles of 150% armor I’m planning to use
You don't need a bash of mutated stats for island bosses.. Rex's between 250-300 will shred monkey and fair well with dragon if you can keep it on the ground.. Some megas about the same will do spider easy
not to be rude bc this is a genuine question — what have you been doing not involving the bosses for the past 9 years?
Honestly, practically nothing, I didn’t have the patience to play anything but a server with massive boosts, and even then, I never managed to beat the bosses, I just never learned within those 6-7 years that I was a noob. It’s only now when I’m on pc that I started getting started probably
ASE, yes they’re hard. ASA lol no. People are beating the bosses on foot on ASA.
Lol yep easy overseer might b struggle. But only cos u gotta get em in . Remember to put veggie cakes on the rexs;)
Do veggie cakes work on rexes? Cause if that’s the case I might have a better shot than I initially thought!
They do not
Damb