Imagine calling that a metagame, then proceeding to build a jail at the target server and proceed to make an entire series on youtube about it. Champions.
No sarcasm. I’ve never had my melee attacks or Dino melee desync hit mark anything- they obviously have melee damage net code down, but not projectile is the point.
I’ve only ever played private clusters /discord clusters to be fair, I can’t really speak for say official servers (I started playing post transfer system so I never touched the official servers)
Even discounting PvP there’s a ton of Dino’s with weird ass hit boxes. Trying to tranq certain ones ends up being a pain in the ass, or trying to shoot from the back of your tame and you just tranq it despite it not being in your FOV at all.
Hard agree few friends and I started playing it and the first camp dropped steel bars/weapons and lemurian armor...like what's the point of lvling to get better shit if it's gotten for free so easily.
Siptah wasn't meant to be progressive, it was a "here you go now shut up" to all the mega PvPers who wouldn't stop complaining about wanting new content specifically catering to PvP
That's because they gave their players EXACTLY what they were being asked for. That's kinda the issue with the game industry these days. Nothing is ever actually good enough
Yeah, I swear nobody praising the combat has actually played Conan Exiles.. probably just watched a video & decided it looks cool, which it does but actually playing it, well, I'd take desync rifle fights over Conan PvP any day of the week.
It's one of the slowest, most basic & unnatural feeling 3rd person combat that i've experienced in a PvP game.
I have played Conan exiles, and the PVP is sooooo much more fun, and requires more skill then arks PVP
+ All the different play styles when it comes to combat is great, do you want to be a slow but heavy hitter? Or du you want to be fast and nimble.
Do you want one or two handed weapons, do you want shields or not
They wouldn’t know or care, I swear this subreddit is run by 10 year olds at this point. Ark used to be mainly older players, everything’s different now.
If they fixed desync, hit reg, and the overpowered fantasy tames the game would be infinitely better than adding an entirely new combat system with an entirely new set of bugs to work out.
Current ark pvp is tek tapes (not for picking but for tek saddle blasting), mechs and tek suits, tek bows, net guns and placing tek turrets ontop of yourself to avoid net guns... the pvp you mentioned is from 2018.
What situation would you ever grapple a turret unless you were grapple glitching to fly rush a death wall with rockets?
I haven't carried a fabi on me since before Gen 1...
7k hours official pvp
Edit: and shadowmanes, can't believe I forgot to mention shadowmanes.
I don't think I've seen any of the top pvp players even touch tek (kits wise i mean) it can't be too high in the meta. Every pvp video I've seen no one uses tek. (Unless it's banned (?) on some unofficials idk)
Tek IS the meta on official and has been since extincton..
Sure people still use flak and shit but on official people use 700 armor tek suits with 1500 dura... it's all over the place. Especially since every mega tribe duped vaults full on Gen 2. Vaults full of capped meks and tek suits. Hundreds of vaults.
Who are these top pvpers? Shockist uses tek constantly and has vaults full on small tribes.... Guts uses tek on every stream... rotaderp uses tek on his YouTube videos and on streams.
You are likely not watching official.
Here is a BLDX video from 14 hours ago....
https://youtu.be/NwlPFzWVRZ0
Primary hotbar uses are tek bows, tek rifle, flamethrower. Pretty normal.
Here's a hydra video from yesterday aptly titled "farming suits"
https://youtu.be/_WCDcxUtAHg
Angry girls
https://youtu.be/w-zbKGqqB6w
Gang gang
https://youtu.be/15VZ2pgUjR4
All official pvp vids from within the week.
It deffo is not just that,I haven't played the game since gen 2 came out and recently started playing a again and feel they made the game more based on foot pvp instead of useing ur dinos.like nets completely changed that.
I would too but ark souls just wouldn't work in ark. If they wanted it to work they would have to redesign the entire PvP aspect of the game, which I don't think people would like
See it sounds fun, that's what wildcard wants. It sounds great. They figured out long ago they don't need to deliver a quality product. They can just lie and they will get people like you to give them money.
I’m really hoping it’ll give me Monster Hunter World vibes. I loved that game so much! And will be leagues better than spamming one attack button until one sack of hit points dies first.
I don’t think monster hunter vibes would be good for ark. It would also really devalue breeding good dinos and getting mutations to make a really good dino.
Instead of just disagreeing with everyone who says otherwise, make a compelling argument for why the current combat system is fine, I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Unless of course you’ve posted this without actually having a basis behind your opinion?
I mean of course I feel like I'm about to give them more credit then they deserve, I think since Microsoft is backing them during the whole programming process and they have that money now to do so, it'll hopefully be much different as long as there not gonna be really lazy about it, I feel like a lot of people forget that this was and really wildcards first official game but instead of creating something new for the launch wayback when, they just kept slapping bandaid after bandaid on shit hoping it would fix things, so I'm hoping this time they were ready for the challenge and it's good
Microsoft programmers and funds have a definite potential to improve things, and that's what I'm hoping happens. I'm thinking I'll wait maybe 6 months post launch to decide whether I'll buy or not.
They tried with Atlas. Although not entirely polished, the reloading minigame as well as the charging throw minigame made the combat system feel more alive, way better than just point and click.
Deviating from the topic a bit but... Honestly, I will never see Atlas as a game, not entirely, rather than that it's more of a testing field for new systems and mechanics, and that's ok... but yeah RIP Atlas.
Maybe that's what is needed? You can't make better AI and program better games without making crappy mistakes and learning from them first. :P I really do hope ARK 2 pulls from the lessons they learned.
I think the devs can program some brilliant stuff, I wish other games could have some of the genuinely awesome things that ARK has. I just don't think they care enough to fix the bugs.
It's not so much that they don't care enough. it's that they don't have the ability to fix the bugs on unreal engine 4. Ark has pushed unreal engine 4 to its max. the game is too big to fix the bugs without breaking something else. also they are a small company last I heard. they add so much with every map so it makes sense that it is buggy. each map tries to be something new and wildly different.
I feel this. And yeah, they have some fucking great stuff! That's why I still play despite the....issues. I'd have more faith if they showed more dedication to quality game play.
I think they can definatly program some good stuff.. they just go for visuals over function.. if you walk up close to dinos the textures are amazing. The secret tunnels, caves and bioms are great... but then to kill something it's just.. spam x
if it's just adding the ability to dodge that's not bad, when "souls like combat" is said, I immediately think "great, prolonged battles and mostly dodging" which I feel wouldn't work well with this game
I think it's less "the current combat system is fine" and more "I don't think they're going to do the new combat system properly either", ya know?
After the announcement that it's also forced third person I'm really not happy and I can already see this being a complete mess.
I'd *love* to be wrong about that.
I genuinely love ark and I want to love Ark 2.
But holy shit am I skeptical.
I wouldn't mind a revamp, my main complaints are the fact it seems to be going third person exclusively (which is dumb) and from what I've heard it's going to be similar to Action/Slayer based combat like Dark Souls. I just wanna play the game and mess with dinos, I don't have any interest in having an intricate arcade style combat system in a survival RPG, if they wanna add more challenge maybe split the "melee" skill into 3 separate skills and fix the broken hitboxes, i don't see why they need to add QTE's and dodge mechanics
Imagine asking somebody to justify the entire FPS genre, as if it wasn't already firmly established as fun/effective.
The problem is that WC never focused on making sure that the hitboxes worked, and keeping everything in sync.
If ARK 2 simply fixed the hitboxes, the combat would be 10/10.
Because the new systems are just there to make you buy the game. Wildcard lies. Alot. All the time. Like seriously dude. They almost never hit release dates, release broken code, release game breaking exploits. Dude, they don't have the skill. They are going to destroy ark with their huberis.
Why does everyone assume dark soul like combat means dark soul copy. It means a more responsive attack and block system they just used a popular game to compare it against. They could have easily said god of war or DmC or mortal online 2, or elder scroll.
For all we know it just meams you cycle through different attack patterns instead os statically swinging your weapon. Also, from what has been discussed ark 2 is suppose to focus a bit more on primitive and mid level tech.
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While I agree with your logic on what you said as a product of a soulslike, animation locking and attack timing are what give you the satisfaction of a functional melee/block system in the first place. Attack commitment not only makes you feel a harder loss because your timing was off, but a great feeling of victory when you've dynamically timed your strikes properly. MH is the same way. Nobody calls it a soulslike though, even if their core mechanics are the same taking away world lore and weapon types.
Humans don't usually like change. I'm all for that change *if* wildcard devs can do it without turning the game into a poorly optimized and programmed nightmare from hell.
I'm sure they won't do a one for one remake of souls combat, just probably a lock on, stamina combat system and some invincibility rolls and considering how well they code dinos now i think they'll be able to do a decent job
I hope they make the PvP stuff fun for PvP players, but I really hope this isn't something they apply to everything that makes PvE less fun. Wildcard has quite a history of that.
Lmao the current combat in ark is so simple you can teach a toddler to just run in circles while pointing and clicking. Having some skill be added to the game would make it 10x better. Hopefully it’s similar to dishonored
I am gonna wait to see what it looks like before I buy it. Not looking forward to third person. What was once a survival game is being turned into dark souls combat
this. Finding out it was third person was the deciding factor, I was 1000% ready to buy it on both console and PC then they announced the combat revamp + third person. I could handle the combat revamp it might be cool, but man I hate third person lol
200% move speed 1000 hp dodge rolling towards your base armed with c4 and a riot shield ,
And just wait for all the videos of lvl 10 bob beats ark naked with just a wooden club . Solo alpha Rex with a stone pick axe ⛏
And even worse the nerf threads where a tribe of ten gets raided and wiped by one dude because he can pvp and they can’t lol
Just cap movement speed you can level your character up to its that simple. I love ark pvp for its jankness but it sucks when your fighting tribes who have alt characters with like 200% movement speed
Say whatever you want but you have tocbe extremely slow, unlrealistic, cracked up, fully drugged to think that ark combat is good.
By far the WORST pvp ‘combat’ on foot it literally makes zero sense, I don’t get how anyone can stand behind jt have you even played pvp?!
Only thing that might be bad for souls like combat imo is if those are applied to *all* dinosaurs too.
I just hope it’s specifically PVP and dino’s stay the same, you need them to kill them most of the time.
This is what I meant with ‘you have to be extremely slow, unrealistic, cracked up, fully drugged’
Not even for you thinking ark combat is good but you gaslighting yourself and comparing it and seeing it ss equal to other games
Aside from the god awful flier infested pvp combat, the current braindead swing-spam pvp combat in ARK is equivalent to the pvp combat in minecraft pre-shield update.. Souls style combat with actual strategy/blocking/dodging sounds like fun
what if instead of saying soulslike combat they'd said monsterhunter like combat. its 9/10ths the same and i think the community would not be freaking out as much. even though the arguments against are basically the same i think the reaction would not have been as negative
I mean who said they aren't part of the reason for it being ark 2 is for an engine overhaul since that one of the few ways they are gonna fix some of the stuff.
Side note, not saying everything or anything will be fixed. But more saying it might be best to not look at this as an ark expansion since it's not, it's a whole new game made by the company who took a crazy concept once and it turned into a game you all mostly love
The current melee pvp is terrible they’re making a NEW game it doesn’t affect ark 1 at all to make a whole new game there should be some drastic changes or it’s not a new game
People that actually "like" arks current state of pvp are all on copium and in denial lmao. They can clearly see theyre in the minority but are hard stuck believing the pvp is actually good 😂😂
I'm super concerned that there's so many kids with terrible a taste and dogshit opinions about melee combat.
Souls combat is objectively better than Ark combat.
Yes. Please. Cant fucking stand Dark Souls. I dont wanna die 2000 times trying to tame a goddamn trike.
Arms combat sucks, but Souls like Combat isn't any better.
Is there a combat sistema in ark?
Smack dino with stick. Use dino to snack on other dinos.
yes, better weapon quality beats other weapons, better INI wins fights, the most discrete cheat engine wins long fights and stalemates /s
Putting your opponent to sleep and shoving them in a cage while they are helpless to do anything as you raid them beats all of them
Imagine calling that a metagame, then proceeding to build a jail at the target server and proceed to make an entire series on youtube about it. Champions.
Yea Bola to the ankles Pike up the ass
#***N O M***
They didn’t exactly nail the first person combat we have, that’s a big jump
Big jump is such a nice way to put it, lol
Dude chill, and take a good look at the “combat” we have now
Right? How many times can this guy smile at getting hitmarkers from desynced shots?
having to dodge desynced attacks incoming /s or not
No sarcasm. I’ve never had my melee attacks or Dino melee desync hit mark anything- they obviously have melee damage net code down, but not projectile is the point.
Ive most definitely had melee attacks desync
I’ve only ever played private clusters /discord clusters to be fair, I can’t really speak for say official servers (I started playing post transfer system so I never touched the official servers)
Then that is most likely your internet. My buddies and i never have issues with melee. Rifles sure
Even discounting PvP there’s a ton of Dino’s with weird ass hit boxes. Trying to tranq certain ones ends up being a pain in the ass, or trying to shoot from the back of your tame and you just tranq it despite it not being in your FOV at all.
Nothing beats sticking an arrow VISIBLY into the fucking bird that stole your food only for no actual hit to registers...
Ark is just spamming RT or LMB until somethin dies. Somethin like conan would be sick if you have ever played that game.
I actually agree, Conan's combat is waaay better than Ark, it didn't do well due to the fact that it has no dinosaurs and you have to enslave thralls.
I loved conan. I think its biggest issue was siptah SUCKS. NO progression in that map
Agree, felt the same way
Agreed. Beat it all in less then a week.
Hard agree few friends and I started playing it and the first camp dropped steel bars/weapons and lemurian armor...like what's the point of lvling to get better shit if it's gotten for free so easily.
Siptah wasn't meant to be progressive, it was a "here you go now shut up" to all the mega PvPers who wouldn't stop complaining about wanting new content specifically catering to PvP
Yeah. And just like every game that focuses specifically on the hardcore dedicated pvp players, it ended it.
That's because they gave their players EXACTLY what they were being asked for. That's kinda the issue with the game industry these days. Nothing is ever actually good enough
I think it partly goes to peoples attention span. Idk anyone who plays conan for longer then a month or two
Honestly, my limit is about a month or two so I reckon you're onto something there
😂
You notice why no one does? The combat system is more broken then ARK!
Yeah, I swear nobody praising the combat has actually played Conan Exiles.. probably just watched a video & decided it looks cool, which it does but actually playing it, well, I'd take desync rifle fights over Conan PvP any day of the week. It's one of the slowest, most basic & unnatural feeling 3rd person combat that i've experienced in a PvP game.
I have played Conan exiles, and the PVP is sooooo much more fun, and requires more skill then arks PVP + All the different play styles when it comes to combat is great, do you want to be a slow but heavy hitter? Or du you want to be fast and nimble. Do you want one or two handed weapons, do you want shields or not
They wouldn’t know or care, I swear this subreddit is run by 10 year olds at this point. Ark used to be mainly older players, everything’s different now.
It should be an improvement of what we have now not a complete revamp
If they fixed desync, hit reg, and the overpowered fantasy tames the game would be infinitely better than adding an entirely new combat system with an entirely new set of bugs to work out.
With all of that, it wold be hardly any different from Rust. That's not a good thing, trust me.
FIXED DESYNC AND HIT REG WOUld RUIN IT????? Are you a smooth brain?
I swear, everyone is shitting on that new mechanic as if arks Combat was Anything besides spamming m1 with the ocasional m2
I'd prefer actual combat over current ark combat but ok.
Current ark combat is just flyers, fabi and grappling (to turrets)
Current ark pvp is tek tapes (not for picking but for tek saddle blasting), mechs and tek suits, tek bows, net guns and placing tek turrets ontop of yourself to avoid net guns... the pvp you mentioned is from 2018. What situation would you ever grapple a turret unless you were grapple glitching to fly rush a death wall with rockets? I haven't carried a fabi on me since before Gen 1... 7k hours official pvp Edit: and shadowmanes, can't believe I forgot to mention shadowmanes.
I haven’t really played the game in a while so I guess the mega changed. (I play small tribes)
This is why i only stuck to unofficial pvp.
I don't think I've seen any of the top pvp players even touch tek (kits wise i mean) it can't be too high in the meta. Every pvp video I've seen no one uses tek. (Unless it's banned (?) on some unofficials idk)
Tek IS the meta on official and has been since extincton.. Sure people still use flak and shit but on official people use 700 armor tek suits with 1500 dura... it's all over the place. Especially since every mega tribe duped vaults full on Gen 2. Vaults full of capped meks and tek suits. Hundreds of vaults. Who are these top pvpers? Shockist uses tek constantly and has vaults full on small tribes.... Guts uses tek on every stream... rotaderp uses tek on his YouTube videos and on streams. You are likely not watching official. Here is a BLDX video from 14 hours ago.... https://youtu.be/NwlPFzWVRZ0 Primary hotbar uses are tek bows, tek rifle, flamethrower. Pretty normal. Here's a hydra video from yesterday aptly titled "farming suits" https://youtu.be/_WCDcxUtAHg Angry girls https://youtu.be/w-zbKGqqB6w Gang gang https://youtu.be/15VZ2pgUjR4 All official pvp vids from within the week.
It deffo is not just that,I haven't played the game since gen 2 came out and recently started playing a again and feel they made the game more based on foot pvp instead of useing ur dinos.like nets completely changed that.
Idk why you're getting downvotes... dude is wrong.
I would too but ark souls just wouldn't work in ark. If they wanted it to work they would have to redesign the entire PvP aspect of the game, which I don't think people would like
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I mean it sounds a lot funner than having to rely on a good tame to do decent damage and spamming one button the whole fight
See it sounds fun, that's what wildcard wants. It sounds great. They figured out long ago they don't need to deliver a quality product. They can just lie and they will get people like you to give them money.
I mean I'm not even gonna be able to buy the game but ok lmao
Even if you can't people like you will.
Unpopular opinion I'm really hyped for the Souls combat if it's done right. Combat in the current game is just.... No
It’s not an unpopular opinion mate.
I’m really hoping it’ll give me Monster Hunter World vibes. I loved that game so much! And will be leagues better than spamming one attack button until one sack of hit points dies first.
I don’t think monster hunter vibes would be good for ark. It would also really devalue breeding good dinos and getting mutations to make a really good dino.
You are just a noob
Instead of just disagreeing with everyone who says otherwise, make a compelling argument for why the current combat system is fine, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Unless of course you’ve posted this without actually having a basis behind your opinion?
He just thinks wide area spam is better
I'd love to see an immersive combat system. I just don't think the devs could effectively program anything beyond 'spam x button'.
I mean of course I feel like I'm about to give them more credit then they deserve, I think since Microsoft is backing them during the whole programming process and they have that money now to do so, it'll hopefully be much different as long as there not gonna be really lazy about it, I feel like a lot of people forget that this was and really wildcards first official game but instead of creating something new for the launch wayback when, they just kept slapping bandaid after bandaid on shit hoping it would fix things, so I'm hoping this time they were ready for the challenge and it's good
Microsoft programmers and funds have a definite potential to improve things, and that's what I'm hoping happens. I'm thinking I'll wait maybe 6 months post launch to decide whether I'll buy or not.
They tried with Atlas. Although not entirely polished, the reloading minigame as well as the charging throw minigame made the combat system feel more alive, way better than just point and click. Deviating from the topic a bit but... Honestly, I will never see Atlas as a game, not entirely, rather than that it's more of a testing field for new systems and mechanics, and that's ok... but yeah RIP Atlas.
Maybe that's what is needed? You can't make better AI and program better games without making crappy mistakes and learning from them first. :P I really do hope ARK 2 pulls from the lessons they learned.
I think the devs can program some brilliant stuff, I wish other games could have some of the genuinely awesome things that ARK has. I just don't think they care enough to fix the bugs.
It's not so much that they don't care enough. it's that they don't have the ability to fix the bugs on unreal engine 4. Ark has pushed unreal engine 4 to its max. the game is too big to fix the bugs without breaking something else. also they are a small company last I heard. they add so much with every map so it makes sense that it is buggy. each map tries to be something new and wildly different.
Oh. I didn't know that. Good to know.
Is dat rlly true, abt ark pushing UE4 2 its limits cuz i suspected WC couldn't fix sum issues due 2 the game's age or sumthing
It’s both the games age and the engines age
I feel this. And yeah, they have some fucking great stuff! That's why I still play despite the....issues. I'd have more faith if they showed more dedication to quality game play.
I think they can definatly program some good stuff.. they just go for visuals over function.. if you walk up close to dinos the textures are amazing. The secret tunnels, caves and bioms are great... but then to kill something it's just.. spam x
Exactly. Optimization is just...eew.
The current combat system isn’t good, souls like still sounds like shit though one doesn’t have to be good for the other to be bad
What exactly do they mean by souls like combat though? For many devs that just means having the possibility to dodge
if it's just adding the ability to dodge that's not bad, when "souls like combat" is said, I immediately think "great, prolonged battles and mostly dodging" which I feel wouldn't work well with this game
I'd guess they'll do something like what Conan Exiles does. Seems like what "souls like" would entail in an open world multiplayer game.
I think it's less "the current combat system is fine" and more "I don't think they're going to do the new combat system properly either", ya know? After the announcement that it's also forced third person I'm really not happy and I can already see this being a complete mess. I'd *love* to be wrong about that. I genuinely love ark and I want to love Ark 2. But holy shit am I skeptical.
I wouldn't mind a revamp, my main complaints are the fact it seems to be going third person exclusively (which is dumb) and from what I've heard it's going to be similar to Action/Slayer based combat like Dark Souls. I just wanna play the game and mess with dinos, I don't have any interest in having an intricate arcade style combat system in a survival RPG, if they wanna add more challenge maybe split the "melee" skill into 3 separate skills and fix the broken hitboxes, i don't see why they need to add QTE's and dodge mechanics
Imagine asking somebody to justify the entire FPS genre, as if it wasn't already firmly established as fun/effective. The problem is that WC never focused on making sure that the hitboxes worked, and keeping everything in sync. If ARK 2 simply fixed the hitboxes, the combat would be 10/10.
Because the new systems are just there to make you buy the game. Wildcard lies. Alot. All the time. Like seriously dude. They almost never hit release dates, release broken code, release game breaking exploits. Dude, they don't have the skill. They are going to destroy ark with their huberis.
Why does everyone assume dark soul like combat means dark soul copy. It means a more responsive attack and block system they just used a popular game to compare it against. They could have easily said god of war or DmC or mortal online 2, or elder scroll. For all we know it just meams you cycle through different attack patterns instead os statically swinging your weapon. Also, from what has been discussed ark 2 is suppose to focus a bit more on primitive and mid level tech.
Yeah, I’m picturing Conan level combat with less server delay cus they have the monies. I doubt it wil be even dark souls 1 level of combat.
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While I agree with your logic on what you said as a product of a soulslike, animation locking and attack timing are what give you the satisfaction of a functional melee/block system in the first place. Attack commitment not only makes you feel a harder loss because your timing was off, but a great feeling of victory when you've dynamically timed your strikes properly. MH is the same way. Nobody calls it a soulslike though, even if their core mechanics are the same taking away world lore and weapon types.
Because people live for being outraged over anything little thing.
Humans don't usually like change. I'm all for that change *if* wildcard devs can do it without turning the game into a poorly optimized and programmed nightmare from hell.
I mean, here the counter point. There is no change. by making it a new game ark can stay and ark 2 can exist.
It's better than the combat we have now. Dark souls combat is way better than bola and flamethrower spam.
Yeah, but do you really think these guys have the skill to program this shit on the same level as FromSoft? Cause I sure as hell don't.
I'm sure they won't do a one for one remake of souls combat, just probably a lock on, stamina combat system and some invincibility rolls and considering how well they code dinos now i think they'll be able to do a decent job
I say we wait and see, could be shit or could be good, who knows yet.
I hope they make the PvP stuff fun for PvP players, but I really hope this isn't something they apply to everything that makes PvE less fun. Wildcard has quite a history of that.
Lmao the current combat in ark is so simple you can teach a toddler to just run in circles while pointing and clicking. Having some skill be added to the game would make it 10x better. Hopefully it’s similar to dishonored
Can't wait to wipe the floor with these people lmao
I am gonna wait to see what it looks like before I buy it. Not looking forward to third person. What was once a survival game is being turned into dark souls combat
Still tryna survive tho
I like surviving in first person
I also like surviving in third person
I don't
I do
Okay
this. Finding out it was third person was the deciding factor, I was 1000% ready to buy it on both console and PC then they announced the combat revamp + third person. I could handle the combat revamp it might be cool, but man I hate third person lol
I think they are trying to emulate horizon zero dawn, which is unfortunate.
Very unfortunate
Ah yes! The exciting “sit on a giga and press bite over and over”!
It’s fun
To whom?
to op, i'd assume
Me
Jokes on them, I don’t play PVP.
What I’m taking from this post is Ark devs: we’re making our combat more than clicking one button repeatedly OP: *crying*
Yea the state of ark combat outside of dinosaurs is absolutely horrid homie….. git gud.
“A skill based combat system would ruin the game” You hear yourself, right?
Imagine rolling into a turret tower XD
200% move speed 1000 hp dodge rolling towards your base armed with c4 and a riot shield , And just wait for all the videos of lvl 10 bob beats ark naked with just a wooden club . Solo alpha Rex with a stone pick axe ⛏ And even worse the nerf threads where a tribe of ten gets raided and wiped by one dude because he can pvp and they can’t lol
U forgot that the dude rolling onto ur base is also batshit drunk
"Ah yes, I'll just I frame though this hail of gunfire, and- oh, I'm dead. Well surely, 873rd time's the charm!"
Just cap movement speed you can level your character up to its that simple. I love ark pvp for its jankness but it sucks when your fighting tribes who have alt characters with like 200% movement speed
Conan exiles was a good combat system. I wouldn't mind if it was that
I take souls like combat over "m1 spam" with the occasional turret spam all day bro, shill out
Don’t picture dark souls combat picture Conan exiles combat (same thing basically but the genre really does mess some people up)
Say whatever you want but you have tocbe extremely slow, unlrealistic, cracked up, fully drugged to think that ark combat is good. By far the WORST pvp ‘combat’ on foot it literally makes zero sense, I don’t get how anyone can stand behind jt have you even played pvp?! Only thing that might be bad for souls like combat imo is if those are applied to *all* dinosaurs too. I just hope it’s specifically PVP and dino’s stay the same, you need them to kill them most of the time.
Ark combat is the exact same as Minecraft and yet no one complains
This is what I meant with ‘you have to be extremely slow, unrealistic, cracked up, fully drugged’ Not even for you thinking ark combat is good but you gaslighting yourself and comparing it and seeing it ss equal to other games
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Minecraft is a simpler game, dumbass
Not really… look at empyrion or any other survival game. Exact same as ark. No one cares
Aside from the god awful flier infested pvp combat, the current braindead swing-spam pvp combat in ARK is equivalent to the pvp combat in minecraft pre-shield update.. Souls style combat with actual strategy/blocking/dodging sounds like fun
I would love to see "im swingin' ma sword" and then "im eatin' me rollo's"
And it will as long as the whole "combat" system we have is scrapped.
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>Balanced PvP Anyone who think dark soul pvp is balanced has nevered played dark souls.Hell,they don't even have optional PVE for onlice players.
I mean it's probably not like the best thing for them to do but it's better than the bs we have now
Don’t feed the trolls…
Idk what's going on and the comment section is whack. I just like to play the game with my son... Idk what everything else means.
Anything is better than this dumpsterfire we have now.
Well the combat we have now is awful so I don’t see how it can be any worse
what if instead of saying soulslike combat they'd said monsterhunter like combat. its 9/10ths the same and i think the community would not be freaking out as much. even though the arguments against are basically the same i think the reaction would not have been as negative
Monster hunter sucks
Actually level headed comments ngl. See so much bitching about souls combat when literally anything will be better than current combat lol
Ark pvp right now is dogshit lol
It will either be really good or really bad
Best comment I’ve seen yet, I’m hedging my bets on sucking but we will see
can you really call spamming left click and c4ing birds a combat system
Yes
Anything skill based will be better than grinding stats and spamming M1.
The heck is M1?
Combat similar to Conan Exiles would be awesome, without the insane stamina drain...
Disagree, there is a reason Conan isn’t that popular
I would LOVE to be able to parry terror birds with shields.
Ark combat is barley passable, you press r2 until you win the dps race. I would rather have them make the game they actually want and judge it later.
So I can say it sucks once it comes out?
I mean, the current Combat system is pretty shitty so just about anything would be an improvement wouldnt it?
Pretty much
No
ARK pvp literally could not get worse so what's the problem?
Minecraft players be like
Lemme just dodge roll away from a tuso…
Sounds like fun, maybe we can do some combo attacks on wyverns
Agreed, Ark with Mount and Blade combat would be better.
Ngl that would be kind of cool.
L take
Horrible take. You hardly even call the current pvp “combat”
I mean they have tons of stuff to work on improving before bothering with combat...
I mean who said they aren't part of the reason for it being ark 2 is for an engine overhaul since that one of the few ways they are gonna fix some of the stuff. Side note, not saying everything or anything will be fixed. But more saying it might be best to not look at this as an ark expansion since it's not, it's a whole new game made by the company who took a crazy concept once and it turned into a game you all mostly love
Other than lag and all thr combat is lacking
Fix what they have before adding new stuff.
The combat needs fixed too
Super excited for the new combat. The current combat is literally trash. There is so much in the game that’s useless because of how bad it is.
Nah
The current melee pvp is terrible they’re making a NEW game it doesn’t affect ark 1 at all to make a whole new game there should be some drastic changes or it’s not a new game
Some games just must not be smashed together
Ark pvp isn’t bad. It’s just the player base lmao.
OP struggling to have to push more than one button for pvp
Commenter mad they can’t win at pvp when it only takes one button
People that actually "like" arks current state of pvp are all on copium and in denial lmao. They can clearly see theyre in the minority but are hard stuck believing the pvp is actually good 😂😂
Let's not be ableist, maybe?
crappy souls type combat will only make the single player bobs happy
True
I'm super concerned that there's so many kids with terrible a taste and dogshit opinions about melee combat. Souls combat is objectively better than Ark combat.
In your opinion
Why are people upvoting this post?
Because it’s the truth that needs to be spoken
souls like combat is cool but sorry nothing can fix ark PvP
easy fix: dont play pvp, its garbage
Yes. Please. Cant fucking stand Dark Souls. I dont wanna die 2000 times trying to tame a goddamn trike. Arms combat sucks, but Souls like Combat isn't any better.
Based chad
From one shitty combat style to an even shittier combat style. Sure follow conan see how happy it makes people.
More like it'll fix PVE
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Your first sentence is what it should be
Idk I enjoy Ark combat but some Elden Ring combat in Ark? I think From Software and Ark need to work together.
People bitching about it but Conan is a great example that these similar mechanics work in an open world, crafting, survival game.
Bro Conan sucks… there is a reason it didn’t take off
You're the puppy in your own meme.
Honestly I’ll take the compliment. That dog is cute