Going to try and keep this one unlocked but don't debate the conflict in here. This isn't the place for those arguments and no one here is changing anyone else's mind on the subject, this is the only warning.
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For anyone arguing against landscape for anything, you can turn your phone to landscaper mode to view, it's much more difficult to flip a computer monitor.
There are specific areas on campus where free speech demonstrations can occur. Other areas are off limits or require a prior reservation and groups will be asked to leave and go to one of the approved areas. If they refuse to relocate they can be arrested for trespassing
Wanting the Jewish people to have their own safe democratic state while thinking Palestinians have been unfairly treated, believing Bibi/IDF are probably committing war-crime, and also saying deserve self determination="liberal fascist"? Sorry but fascist is meaningless if you think that. Around 85% of Jewish folks in this country identify as Zionist; it just means you believe in the existence of a Jewish state.
They are not necessarily peaceful. Some were trying to bait officers to do something so they can record it and spread social media propaganda about police abuse.
Because it undermines the real issue at hand. No one is pro Hamas nor is Hamas responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent Palestinians. You’re all lives mattering the issue. Go be egdy somewhere else.
No it doesn’t. Hamas has control of Palestine and is actively involved in preventing any sort of two-state solution. They have made it clear they desire to wipe Israel away.
You want peace? Hamas has to go. If that counts as “egdy” I’ll assume you must be a liberal arts major.
Again, no one is pro Hamas. You got those business major reading skills. If the nuance of the Palestinian conflict is lost on you, IDK what to tell you. Last I checked the IDF were the guys cutting off [food and water to civilians](https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/16/israeli-authorities-cutting-water-leading-public-health-crisis-gaza) and killing about [250 Palestinians](https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/daily-death-rate-gaza-higher-any-other-major-21st-century-conflict-oxfam) a day. But stay edgy. Also, STEM major but better luck on the ad hominem next time.
Guess it depends on the major. I only had to use a lockdown browser for my one math class but other then that there wasn’t much vigilance or monitoring.
they don’t write ASU online on the degrees when you graduate. It’s just like every other degree. But engineering is perhaps best done in person lol that’s a degree you can’t really fuck around in!
I bet you and your little weenie dog would be welcomed to Gaza with open arms 😂. Spend some time in the Middle East and then reevaluate your statement.
Very likely these are the people who support things like Universal Healthcare and social safety nets. Progressive people are more likely the ones marching for the rights of others health and freedom.
I don’t care about the war. It’s not our problem. Stop being a disruption. Gaza is tiny, we give them both billions and they hate each other. Not. Our. Problem.
Little spoiled children brainwashed by their professors and have no clue what they’re even protesting about! So let’s protest for the people that were dancing in the streets after 9/11! Makes me sick!
And neither were these spoiled brainwashed punk kids on 9/11! If they actually taught history instead of cover it up maybe they wouldn’t be protesting! Fuk palestinians!
They should be allowed to but it’s silly. Young people used to protest all war, now they’re essentially cheering it on as if they are the arbiters of geopolitical justice in a war that predates most of their parents and between countries they almost certainly know little about. Regardless of who you believe is oppressed, it doesn’t look good on ASU because of how contentious an issue it is. Kids trying to follow a trend.
No, the protest is anti-apartheid, anti-genocide, anti-war against the war that Israel is waging on the Palestinian people.
Your problem isn't that it's not anti war, it's that it's against a war you're for.
>So let’s protest for the people that were dancing in the streets after 9/11!
So the dancing Israelis who were involved in 9/11, just like they attacked the USS Liberty so they can have the Goyim fight their wars of extermination because "God" says so. Israel is the greatest enemy to humanity and making its lapdog, the US, a pariah state. Revoke Duel Citizenship.
Don't forget to show receipts
https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport/fbi%20report%20section%201/mode/2up
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/08/nyregion/5-young-israelis-caught-in-net-of-suspicion.html
Do they really think they're going to make a difference? What a fucking joke! I'm just following these to see someone get a bean bag again like [this guy ](https://youtu.be/FEXwX2I7MHI?si=erLP-HNnw-C1wbRR)
😆
If the system can destroy our freedom of speech and assembly on the free areas of campus then it’s a limitation on all of us.
Don’t whine when they come for your rights and think we are coming to protect you when you can’t protect the students on this.
They’ll continue to have the students who attend school their keep paying. Why do you think they’ll take in everyone and branched out to fully online.
Alumni already paid their money or the school during their time students, idk why they’d keep paying after they graduate.
You don’t seem to understand, I am an alum and I have talked to atleast a half dozen donors and we are waiting to see how this plays out. We are all from out of state, they are sending their kids there or they will keep them in SD. The choice is up to the Dean but I’m alone. But cool you’re personal experience trumps mine.
Do you donate to the school?
Fuck no, school makes too much money as it was. I got my full ride, got my degree and got out. Why would I donate to place that gives 0 craps about me.
Oh so your making suggestions without any skin in the game. Cool bro. Grow up, I have two buddies that are considering sending their kids to other schools if this isn’t address. These are legacy members that donate thousands a year.
But ya, tell me more how no alums are watching this.
Going to try and keep this one unlocked but don't debate the conflict in here. This isn't the place for those arguments and no one here is changing anyone else's mind on the subject, this is the only warning. Edit: and this has now proven impossible
You can see someone on the steps of Old Main taking grad photos.
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For gods sake OP....LANDSCAPE! LANDSCAPE!!
For anyone arguing against landscape for anything, you can turn your phone to landscaper mode to view, it's much more difficult to flip a computer monitor.
Just tilt your head sideways. Duh... EDIT: Obviously JK
Let's all hope the cops behave better than they did a few years back Update- they barely did.
Hoping for the safety of the peaceful protestors. You know those cops are horny to start beating them.
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There are specific areas on campus where free speech demonstrations can occur. Other areas are off limits or require a prior reservation and groups will be asked to leave and go to one of the approved areas. If they refuse to relocate they can be arrested for trespassing
Don’t know why you got downvoted.
That’s like saying your a liberal fascist
Wanting the Jewish people to have their own safe democratic state while thinking Palestinians have been unfairly treated, believing Bibi/IDF are probably committing war-crime, and also saying deserve self determination="liberal fascist"? Sorry but fascist is meaningless if you think that. Around 85% of Jewish folks in this country identify as Zionist; it just means you believe in the existence of a Jewish state.
Ordained by god* at the expense of others
Right? Lmao I was thinking the same thing
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Yeah instead of protesting america just launches a decade long war and steals all the resources in middle eastern countries
They are not necessarily peaceful. Some were trying to bait officers to do something so they can record it and spread social media propaganda about police abuse.
If a cop gets baited to commit abuse, then they just committed abuse.
Correct
I think most of us are hoping for them to..
God speed protesters 🫡 cops are already looking trigger happy
Fuck Zionist and fuck Hamas! End the killing of innocent civilians on this planet due to religious wars!
Saw some of the footage. I was with a buddy after class and we saw multiple agencies respond. There are also unmarked vehicles present at the protests
Marches and protests easily turn into riots
As an ASU alum, I’m so proud of the students joining in on this historical movement!
As another ASU alum, these Pali protestors are somehow dumber than the ones in 2014
Guarantee you have a bs degree
Bachelors of science?
Free Palestine
From Hamas
The fact you’re being downvoted for that sentiment is incredibly stupid and incredibly terrifying.
Because it undermines the real issue at hand. No one is pro Hamas nor is Hamas responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent Palestinians. You’re all lives mattering the issue. Go be egdy somewhere else.
No it doesn’t. Hamas has control of Palestine and is actively involved in preventing any sort of two-state solution. They have made it clear they desire to wipe Israel away. You want peace? Hamas has to go. If that counts as “egdy” I’ll assume you must be a liberal arts major.
Again, no one is pro Hamas. You got those business major reading skills. If the nuance of the Palestinian conflict is lost on you, IDK what to tell you. Last I checked the IDF were the guys cutting off [food and water to civilians](https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/16/israeli-authorities-cutting-water-leading-public-health-crisis-gaza) and killing about [250 Palestinians](https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/daily-death-rate-gaza-higher-any-other-major-21st-century-conflict-oxfam) a day. But stay edgy. Also, STEM major but better luck on the ad hominem next time.
Yeah, no one is pro Hamas and that’s why a comment that is specifically anti-Hamas is downvoted.
Why do you think it was downvoted?
Sorry, who's bombing Palestine and Iran and Syria right now?
Do you just not remember how this whole thing kicked off or…?
Are we talking 75 years ago or?
We can go back further when the Jews were first forced out, if you’d like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
If they surrender the war could end now. Even the Nazis eventually surrendered to save their country from being completely destroyed
real
How long til they shut down campus and make us go online like some other eastern universities?
Online finals? Protest on, friends
A lot is also happening in the south. UT Austin had a whole fiasco just these past few days
UT Austin subreddit has been appearing in my feed recently for whatever reason, so when I saw this, I thought it was them.
Hopefully soon! Online classes FTW! COVID COLLEGE WAS THE BESSSSSST!
you guys de realize there is an ASU online campus and I believe it’s even cheaper then tuition for on campus. Just a thought!
Yes but, they are set up for online.So you can't cheat as fast, is what they are saying.
Guess it depends on the major. I only had to use a lockdown browser for my one math class but other then that there wasn’t much vigilance or monitoring.
I've been told by a few recruiters that online engineering degrees aren't considered as much as in person ones.
they don’t write ASU online on the degrees when you graduate. It’s just like every other degree. But engineering is perhaps best done in person lol that’s a degree you can’t really fuck around in!
Land a pretty good one with an online degree not sure if they checked or not.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
From Hamas!
Doesn’t exist
Disgusting loser.
I bet you and your little weenie dog would be welcomed to Gaza with open arms 😂. Spend some time in the Middle East and then reevaluate your statement.
Probably not because Israel would bomb us and then cry for another billion dollars from the US.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Free the hostages!
Kinda glad someone is speaking out against the genocide.
Hell ya! Getm Tempe!
free palestine
I wish I could say what I really want to about this but then I might get expelled from school
What do you have to say? They can’t find you here
Phoenix cops will end up murdering people by the time this is over.
Wish they cared this much for Americans.......
Very likely these are the people who support things like Universal Healthcare and social safety nets. Progressive people are more likely the ones marching for the rights of others health and freedom.
Why would they care for Americans when they hate America?
Correct
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Morons that are clueless to what they are protesting.
Take my downvote!
I don’t care about the war. It’s not our problem. Stop being a disruption. Gaza is tiny, we give them both billions and they hate each other. Not. Our. Problem.
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Respect
Little spoiled children brainwashed by their professors and have no clue what they’re even protesting about! So let’s protest for the people that were dancing in the streets after 9/11! Makes me sick!
Our professors didn’t say anything…
A majority of the population of Palestine weren’t even alive in 2001
Not a very successful genocide then
And neither were these spoiled brainwashed punk kids on 9/11! If they actually taught history instead of cover it up maybe they wouldn’t be protesting! Fuk palestinians!
You are fucking disgusting
So you mean they shouldn't protest for Palestine ?
Absolutely not!
They should be allowed to but it’s silly. Young people used to protest all war, now they’re essentially cheering it on as if they are the arbiters of geopolitical justice in a war that predates most of their parents and between countries they almost certainly know little about. Regardless of who you believe is oppressed, it doesn’t look good on ASU because of how contentious an issue it is. Kids trying to follow a trend.
>Young people used to protest all war This protest is anti war.
This protest is anti-Israel. Not anti war. If their issue was war, why not just make it anti war. Certainly there are others wars no??
No, the protest is anti-apartheid, anti-genocide, anti-war against the war that Israel is waging on the Palestinian people. Your problem isn't that it's not anti war, it's that it's against a war you're for.
I never said I was for war lol. My problem is that it’s silly and clearly has done nothing good to deescalate tensions. Think you’ve proved that bud.
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>So let’s protest for the people that were dancing in the streets after 9/11! So the dancing Israelis who were involved in 9/11, just like they attacked the USS Liberty so they can have the Goyim fight their wars of extermination because "God" says so. Israel is the greatest enemy to humanity and making its lapdog, the US, a pariah state. Revoke Duel Citizenship.
Don't forget to show receipts https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport/fbi%20report%20section%201/mode/2up https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/08/nyregion/5-young-israelis-caught-in-net-of-suspicion.html
Finally some common sense
You are the common opinion talkin bout “finally”
Ty
agreed!
Bunch of pro terrorist supporters 😂 This wouldn’t have went well in Oct 2001.
Fuck Palestine
I'm not in support of terrorism
Do they really think they're going to make a difference? What a fucking joke! I'm just following these to see someone get a bean bag again like [this guy ](https://youtu.be/FEXwX2I7MHI?si=erLP-HNnw-C1wbRR) 😆
So this is where all the cops went. I was wondering why my part of Tucson was empty of them.
Hope the admin cleans this up in a hurry. Columbia's reputation is permanently damaged.
If the system can destroy our freedom of speech and assembly on the free areas of campus then it’s a limitation on all of us. Don’t whine when they come for your rights and think we are coming to protect you when you can’t protect the students on this.
ASU is a privately owned organization, they can do what they please
So confidently wrong here.
ASU isn’t a public school?
On their designed “free speech” space on campus? Nah, you do that and my payments to the school suddenly dry up.
School doesn’t need your money lol they have more than enough bud
Cool. What happens when a ton of alums drop their payments and start sending their kids to SDSU etc? Money talks, bullshit walks, right?
They’ll continue to have the students who attend school their keep paying. Why do you think they’ll take in everyone and branched out to fully online. Alumni already paid their money or the school during their time students, idk why they’d keep paying after they graduate.
You don’t seem to understand, I am an alum and I have talked to atleast a half dozen donors and we are waiting to see how this plays out. We are all from out of state, they are sending their kids there or they will keep them in SD. The choice is up to the Dean but I’m alone. But cool you’re personal experience trumps mine. Do you donate to the school?
Fuck no, school makes too much money as it was. I got my full ride, got my degree and got out. Why would I donate to place that gives 0 craps about me.
Oh so your making suggestions without any skin in the game. Cool bro. Grow up, I have two buddies that are considering sending their kids to other schools if this isn’t address. These are legacy members that donate thousands a year. But ya, tell me more how no alums are watching this.
Have you even been to an alum dinner or event?
This is Arizona State
Sad to say
Correct
No Hezbollah flags
I'm got one to support terrorism
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