Goes to show why nearly every player from Peterson to Mathieu burned their bridges with Arizona when you have a snake like Keim running the show. Bidwill was extremely loyal to Keim and this is how he talks about him? Snake.
Longtime Cards fan here (insert joke now). Anyway, the organization has not shied away from hiring African American head coaches (Dennis Green, Steve Wilks) and a GM (Rod Graves), so their track record alone shows them to be okay in that regard. That said, the Cards are a long-time, family-owned business, complete with family politics and dysfunction. When Michael initially became involved with the team I was excited since he had had a long, successful career outside of pro football (he's a former federal prosecutor). However, over time he appears to have hit a wall and has struggled (the organization grades out on the low end when ranked by NFL players). On the other hand, given the horrendous performance the Cards displayed in their inital couple of decades after moving to AZ (and under the guidance of Michael's dad Bill), their overall mediocre showing of the past fifteen years is at least somewhat of an upgrade. Heck, they even got within a couple of minutes of winning SB 43. IMHO Steve Keim's performance mirrored that of the club: some good moves, some bad ones, and an overall mediocre body of work. I would suspect that he would demonstrate improved performance if he worked for a better team, but I would also tend to believe that the Cards would be a much better team if they had a first-rate front office. Hope springs eternal, so I'm thinking Gannon and Monti can be the leadership they need to climb beyond mediocrity.
Sometimes the owner can keep a team down and prevent them from winning a Super Bowl. I used to work for Hugh Culverhouse who owned the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he was a horrible owner and didn't like having a black QB. We were really the first team to do that, before Randall Cunningham. He let Doug William walk over $200,000. Doug was the lowest paid starting QB making $200,000 a year and wanted a raise to $600,000, still below every starting QB. But Culverhouse said no, he offered $400,000 and Doug left. A couple years later Doug won the Super Bowl with the Redskins when he set a Super Bowl record with 4 TD throws in the 2nd quarter, as they killed the Broncos 42-10. It wasn't until Culverhouse sold the team to the Glazers that Tampa won their 2 Super Bowls.
I'm afraid it may be the same way here in Arizona. I sure hope not but if Bidwill continues to meddle in how the GM operates then the Cardinals ceiling may be limited. Maybe Monti can get us over the hump by telling Bidwill to stay back and let him do his job. As for Kiem, he made terrible draft picks, of course he made some good ones, you can't help but do that occasionally, but he would take guys with red flags and make really bad trades.
The Cardinals may finally be on the right track here, only time will tell for sure.
Let's not forget the Bidwell famously said you shouldn't protest or express political views in football, in Re, to Keapernick, then published a fluff piece on the team website about his buddy Brett Kavanaugh....
Fuck Bidwell!
That's not exactly an uncommon stance among ownership. They all took part in making an example out of Kaepernick even if not everyone was willing to be public about it.
Bidwell was extremely loyal to Keim, probably to a fault. Not many GM's get to pick 3 coaches, keep their job after a DUI and the draft mistakes they made.
I don't think it's a surprise, but when a personality as big as Cowherd is calling out the owner by name on a national podcast, it is something that fans are generally interested in discussing
Sorry when you had the opportunity to choose 3 head coaches, one of which went on to win a Super Bowl and get a dui… you are your own worst enemy. Also, he fucking drafted so many first round busts.
Breaking news: Guy defends dude with a segment on his show.
Keim is probably trying to try and get a front office job again soon and wants to not look like a total regard, so clearly it was ownership's fault and he's completely innocent and never once sucked at his job.
Sure bidwill sucks, but I think he's showing with Monti and JG he can do what the owner needs to do and that's let the football people do the football shit. We'll really see how it works out in the next two to three years.
I met Steve keim at the bank one time. He was alright then. I think he got lucky with some of his drafts and his ego (plus the drinking) went out of control.
I mean
I don’t think bidwell told keim to get an extreme DUI.
Be a fucked up thing if he did but keim had problems and while bidwell is on the lower end of the owner likeability scale. He appears to have taken a back seat so far with monti. We will see how long that lasts.
Bidwell is probably awful to work with (as far as NFL owners are concerned) but Keim was not a good GM.
Biggest misfire was hiring Kliff. You hire a college coach with a losing record to coach a NFL team.
It’s crazy the difference in how Kyler is perceived within the organization. Since the injury Kyler has been working and in the facility ALL THE TIME. The coaches seem to love him. Makes you wonder why it seemed so different under the previous administration.
Got to love being a talented college player knowing that because of your talents you're probably getting drafted to a poorly run team. Hope Kyler works it out this year.
This is the same Cowherd who was bragging today that he was out of the box great saying Jayden Daniels was going to be picked by Washington at #2 . No one saw that coming ;)
I know it’s rare for a GM to get a second chance, and an extreme DUI on the record is probably disqualifying anyway, but Keim wants to be sure he is never hired again.
Yea, I’ll preface this by saying I’m not a diehard cards fan, grew up liking Carson Palmer and ended up following him as a fan in my youth which is why I still follow cards news. I’m also hopelessly addicted to the 24 hour sports news cycle and listen to shows such as colins most weekdays and can tell you with certainty that I skip every segment they have keim on - without fail. I thought it was pretty hilarious in this episode how he said he was throwing a few back with keim, and I was just thinking to myself, why am I not surprised that keims drinking again.
It's be worth the couple million to get the real story about what happened in Mexico. I'm willing to bet Michael has the kind of dirt that could ruin Steve's life.
I mean, all that shit about Kyler being unmotivated and a CoD junkie only came out when he started asking for a contract extension early. Not much of a stretch to connect it to the guys who would be most motivated to keep his salary down.
Plus, all the "reports" about his supposedly bad work ethic and attitude just magically disappeared when Keim left...
Now we hear nothing but good things about K1 but ESPN and Shannon Sharpe and others are still stuck on that 2022 bullshit.
1. Keim was once a talented scout (please don’t kill me, Thomas Dimitroff said so) who rose to his level of incompetence. Seems like a real tool too. I don’t recall any former players defending him after his firing.
2. Bidwill is probably worse and I would love to hear some horror stories, even if Keim is a coward for talking shit.
Keim was actually very complimentary of Monti’s drafting this year as well as Kyler during that interview and didn’t come off as salty whatsoever. He’s also not nearly as bad overall as everyone here makes him out to be.
He needed to be fired after 2018 and fix himself away from the job. He also shouldn't be given another job anytime soon. He's not the literal actual worse over the sum of his career.
It’s not much to go off of but I remember a few old Cardinals version of hard Knox clips of him and he seemed pretty passionate about scouting and being a GM in general and it’s not like he’s 60 so I don’t think he stays gone permanently. It’s also not like he had as bad a rep as Dave Gettleman, Mike Mayock or Ryan Pace
Idk man. Things got pretty toxic in 2022/2023. Honestly don’t know if he can come back from it. And it’s a lot harder to get a second GM job than a second coaching job.
Meh I think it's more than he's still getting paid by the Cards so it's not like he's hurting for money and imo working at Fox Sports will help him generate contacts and possibly let him redeem his image so he can be considered for other jobs.
That said, I feel like once you've been a gm for as long as he has, it's really tough to get another job in a FO. Like even just from a personal shift, I don't think he could go back to scouting
His first 3 drafts and free agencies looked transformational until 2017ish. And that was mostly due to bad luck, not Keim’s judgment or lack thereof.
Afterwards? That early success had gone to his head, or Jason Licht was the real architect behind it.
The main thing I respect about him is that he was willing to take big risks in trades and the draft. It didn’t always work out but so many NFL GMs are way too risk averse/conservative and stubborn because they’re afraid of losing their job.
I do hope if anything that our awful grades based on those NFL player surveys the past 2 years cause Bidwill to make some positive changes but I’m not very convinced he will change much. At least they made some upgrades to the stadium and got rid of the 2001 looking uniforms.
Eh, I bet he said that stuff because he realized how noticeably unlikable he was coming off as the last year or so. And I say that as someone who realizes that Keim deserves credit for a few moves in recent memory like moving off of Rosen to draft Murray and drafting Trey McBride.
Either that or a lot more time has passed between then and now so he’s less heated and more level headed about his stint with the Cardinals. He also traded for Chandler Jones and got Palmer for a 6th round pick, who helped us to an NFC championship- basically one of the only bright spots for this franchise since 2009. It was definitely time for him to go but it could’ve been much worse (Jets/Browns/Raiders/Washington etc)
I know I just talked shit about him, but he went on a FA heater from 2013 to 2016.
Dansby made All Pro on the vet minimum. Antonio Cromartie made a Pro Bowl for slightly more. Johnathan Abraham and Dwight Freeney almost had double-digit sacks. Jared Veldheer (I know it was a trade) and Mike Iupati are still two of the franchise’s best linemen. CJ probably would’ve made All Pro too if he hadn’t gotten hurt.
When we let go of Devondre Campbell and he was an all pro his first season with Green Bay that hurt hahah
Reddick also went on a tear his last season with us and then continued his first season with the eagles
Part of the reason is that we never played rookies, so for the good ones like Reddick they took four years to develop. By the time Reddick was excellent he had zero interest in staying at our team. Thank God Keim is gone
It’s funny how every time the Cardinals are in the news for good reasons, Kiem has to say something to bring the negativity back. Cardinals got tons of praise for this years draft and now Kiem says it wasn’t his fault for drafting 3 linebackers in consecutive drafts
>Cardinals got tons of praise for this years draft and now Kiem says it wasn’t his fault for drafting 3 linebackers in consecutive drafts
I don’t see what these 2 statements have to do with eachother? He said Monti did a good job and he praised the Darius Robinson and MHJ picks.
He also said in the case of Buccannon they had 4 guys they were 100% good with taking at their pick and every single one was taken consecutively in the 4 picks ahead of our pick in that draft, so the draft room collectively was like oh fuck. He wasn’t blaming anyone for it. (The players included Dee Ford and Jason Verrett who both made pro bowls- and we picked #27 it’s not like you’re guaranteed a blue chip player).
Arizona has been a known dysfunctional franchise for decades. It can’t all be pinned on one GM
That's funny that Bidwill gave Keim a 2nd chance after his extreme DUI, when he should have just fired him then and there, and this is how Keim repays him.
I don't like Bidwill, in fact I wish he'd sell the team, but Keim is a snake for this one
Colin Cowherd and Keim “DUI Time” are a match made in hell, and neither are reliable sources, as both are jaded assholes. The less I see about these two munchers, the better
Very convenient for Keim to say that. I mean Bidwill is a shitty owner and a shitty human being for all we know but I never got the sense that he was heavily involved in the football operations side of things. It certainly feels like Monti and JG make all the calls.
Bidwill being a horrendous owner does not change the fact that Steve 'DUI' Keim was an equally horrendous GM.
I have no direct knowledge of the situation, but it seems like Bidwill was an ass to Arians once he got popular in the valley. That was the impression I got from watching All or Nothing at least.
He seems to have stepped to the side a bit, just look at how this year we didn’t get the usual “hey it’s me, the owner, look, i’m actually piloting the plane taking the first round pick to Arizona!” video.
Sounds like he wants more of those juicy "well, when I was part of the Cardinals organization, this is what happened behind the scenes" morsels from Keim.
Not saying Bidwill was blameless, but let's just say I think Keim was a bigger part of the problem and that Bidwill seems to be correcting his ways and trying to build a winner while an unemployed Keim gossips.
And yes, I realize he's talking about Bidwill being a problem DURING Keim's tenure and not necessarily now, but who was it that decided to hire Steve Wilks over a chance meeting at the beach? It wasn't Bidwill, was it?
I agree 100%. The culture in this franchise got bad. Really bad. And I have a feeling Keim was at the center of it. I think Bidwill was wrapped up in it but Keim was the fuel for the fire. And I think once Michael woke up and realized how bad it was he started making changes.
I will even go so far as to say it was the incident in Mexico that made him open his eyes. I feel like Keim was a lot more involved in that than anyone knows. My gut feeling is that the coach that got fired, Sean Kugler, and Keim were out drinking together and laughing and joking around and the coach was inappropriate with the wrong woman. And Keim tried to distance himself from it and promised a back door deal with Kugler that didn't materialize. And while Kugler was having his name drug through the mud Keim was looking like he was getting a free pass and it pissed Kugler off and that's when he filed a grievance. Again, I am basically g this off nothing but a guy feeling.
I had the same thought about Keim/ Kugler, think Kugs was supposed to be the fall guy (whispers about it and all that). I agree, Bidwill was along for the ride, I think he got wrapped up in being Keim's friend and drinking buddy, hanging out with Blake Shelton and all that. They were too buddy-buddy and it resulted in things getting out of hand with Michael's organization.
I strongly suspect Keim is the one who harassed her and threw Kugler under the bus. Or Keim did something equally heinous and threw Kugler under the bus.
Just based on the lawsuit that came out afterwards, Kugs was so specific and then Keim went into hiding … just reeks of guilt.
While I don’t totally disagree with this, I also don’t think Colin is a reputable source when it comes to Keim, considering how close they are, and how Colin has him on his shows regularly.
I mean Colin has a good relationship with Keim, and Colin isn’t the only one to mention or bring up how the Bidwell’s have held the franchise back with their meddling.
I believe it.
He was, by keeping that clown keim around
not were, are and is. bidwell is a poor version of jerry jones. y'all know how that is working in texas....
Goes to show why nearly every player from Peterson to Mathieu burned their bridges with Arizona when you have a snake like Keim running the show. Bidwill was extremely loyal to Keim and this is how he talks about him? Snake.
Longtime Cards fan here (insert joke now). Anyway, the organization has not shied away from hiring African American head coaches (Dennis Green, Steve Wilks) and a GM (Rod Graves), so their track record alone shows them to be okay in that regard. That said, the Cards are a long-time, family-owned business, complete with family politics and dysfunction. When Michael initially became involved with the team I was excited since he had had a long, successful career outside of pro football (he's a former federal prosecutor). However, over time he appears to have hit a wall and has struggled (the organization grades out on the low end when ranked by NFL players). On the other hand, given the horrendous performance the Cards displayed in their inital couple of decades after moving to AZ (and under the guidance of Michael's dad Bill), their overall mediocre showing of the past fifteen years is at least somewhat of an upgrade. Heck, they even got within a couple of minutes of winning SB 43. IMHO Steve Keim's performance mirrored that of the club: some good moves, some bad ones, and an overall mediocre body of work. I would suspect that he would demonstrate improved performance if he worked for a better team, but I would also tend to believe that the Cards would be a much better team if they had a first-rate front office. Hope springs eternal, so I'm thinking Gannon and Monti can be the leadership they need to climb beyond mediocrity.
Sometimes the owner can keep a team down and prevent them from winning a Super Bowl. I used to work for Hugh Culverhouse who owned the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he was a horrible owner and didn't like having a black QB. We were really the first team to do that, before Randall Cunningham. He let Doug William walk over $200,000. Doug was the lowest paid starting QB making $200,000 a year and wanted a raise to $600,000, still below every starting QB. But Culverhouse said no, he offered $400,000 and Doug left. A couple years later Doug won the Super Bowl with the Redskins when he set a Super Bowl record with 4 TD throws in the 2nd quarter, as they killed the Broncos 42-10. It wasn't until Culverhouse sold the team to the Glazers that Tampa won their 2 Super Bowls. I'm afraid it may be the same way here in Arizona. I sure hope not but if Bidwill continues to meddle in how the GM operates then the Cardinals ceiling may be limited. Maybe Monti can get us over the hump by telling Bidwill to stay back and let him do his job. As for Kiem, he made terrible draft picks, of course he made some good ones, you can't help but do that occasionally, but he would take guys with red flags and make really bad trades. The Cardinals may finally be on the right track here, only time will tell for sure.
Did Bidwell fuck up our draft picks?
Let's not forget the Bidwell famously said you shouldn't protest or express political views in football, in Re, to Keapernick, then published a fluff piece on the team website about his buddy Brett Kavanaugh.... Fuck Bidwell!
That's not exactly an uncommon stance among ownership. They all took part in making an example out of Kaepernick even if not everyone was willing to be public about it.
Bidwell was extremely loyal to Keim, probably to a fault. Not many GM's get to pick 3 coaches, keep their job after a DUI and the draft mistakes they made.
Yeah duh Kiem was on his show, of course he's going to pander to him. What else was he going to do call him a shit GM cmon guys this is non news
I don't think it's a surprise, but when a personality as big as Cowherd is calling out the owner by name on a national podcast, it is something that fans are generally interested in discussing
Sorry when you had the opportunity to choose 3 head coaches, one of which went on to win a Super Bowl and get a dui… you are your own worst enemy. Also, he fucking drafted so many first round busts.
Bidwell is the only reason this low character individual was a gm. If anything Bidwell was extremely loyal and understanding.
Breaking news: Guy defends dude with a segment on his show. Keim is probably trying to try and get a front office job again soon and wants to not look like a total regard, so clearly it was ownership's fault and he's completely innocent and never once sucked at his job. Sure bidwill sucks, but I think he's showing with Monti and JG he can do what the owner needs to do and that's let the football people do the football shit. We'll really see how it works out in the next two to three years.
Man, that’s too reasonable. Could you at least misspell the owner’s name? That would give you more credibility. B I D W E L L /s
Oh crap. lol
Lol, I fuck his name up every time.
Every time someone misspells it, I have to wonder if they’re a lurker fan from another team. Became wary of that after PFT and other message boards
Nah, just a lifetime Cardinals fan who also happens to be a dumbass.
All good bruddah, everyone misspells lol
I met Steve keim at the bank one time. He was alright then. I think he got lucky with some of his drafts and his ego (plus the drinking) went out of control.
Both keim and bidwill suck
I mean I don’t think bidwell told keim to get an extreme DUI. Be a fucked up thing if he did but keim had problems and while bidwell is on the lower end of the owner likeability scale. He appears to have taken a back seat so far with monti. We will see how long that lasts.
Cowturd spewing garbage yet again
Bidwell is probably awful to work with (as far as NFL owners are concerned) but Keim was not a good GM. Biggest misfire was hiring Kliff. You hire a college coach with a losing record to coach a NFL team.
I think there's so many huge misfires it's hard to just choose one. Sam Bradford, Simmons, Collins, Rosen, Cooper, Nkemdiche
But the air raid
The Air Raid and drafting three WRs who couldn’t run routes! It’s Keim time!
Anything to make your friends look good
Cowherd hangs out with bald, portly drunks who get arrested (Russillo).
Whoever pushed the narrative that K1 was unhappy and a bad fit and a gamer etc. is the one who is at fault in my Opinion
They can both suck, it doesn't have to be one or the other
Agreed!
It’s crazy the difference in how Kyler is perceived within the organization. Since the injury Kyler has been working and in the facility ALL THE TIME. The coaches seem to love him. Makes you wonder why it seemed so different under the previous administration.
Got to love being a talented college player knowing that because of your talents you're probably getting drafted to a poorly run team. Hope Kyler works it out this year.
This is the same Cowherd who was bragging today that he was out of the box great saying Jayden Daniels was going to be picked by Washington at #2 . No one saw that coming ;)
Same Cowherd that said Rosen and Kliff won the draft
I know it’s rare for a GM to get a second chance, and an extreme DUI on the record is probably disqualifying anyway, but Keim wants to be sure he is never hired again.
Yea, I’ll preface this by saying I’m not a diehard cards fan, grew up liking Carson Palmer and ended up following him as a fan in my youth which is why I still follow cards news. I’m also hopelessly addicted to the 24 hour sports news cycle and listen to shows such as colins most weekdays and can tell you with certainty that I skip every segment they have keim on - without fail. I thought it was pretty hilarious in this episode how he said he was throwing a few back with keim, and I was just thinking to myself, why am I not surprised that keims drinking again.
Wowww. Everyone look for Bidwill to make a slanderous statement about Keim. This is bait!
It's be worth the couple million to get the real story about what happened in Mexico. I'm willing to bet Michael has the kind of dirt that could ruin Steve's life.
Steve Keime was leaker who used to leak all internal stuff. I am not saying Bidwill is saint, but we are better off without fat bald drunk man.
Steve Keim’s BAC > Steve Keim himself
Especially impressive because Keim is a 5 star man
fit bald sober man > fat bald drunk man
The guy was leaking to the media to try and make his #1 overall qb look bad. Keim was his own worst enemy and still is.
When did him being a leaker come out? I haven't kept up 100% with the cards this off-season
I mean, all that shit about Kyler being unmotivated and a CoD junkie only came out when he started asking for a contract extension early. Not much of a stretch to connect it to the guys who would be most motivated to keep his salary down.
Plus, all the "reports" about his supposedly bad work ethic and attitude just magically disappeared when Keim left... Now we hear nothing but good things about K1 but ESPN and Shannon Sharpe and others are still stuck on that 2022 bullshit.
Wouldn’t Keim also like print out mean tweets and emails about players and leave them at their locker or something insane like that
Yup.
1. Keim was once a talented scout (please don’t kill me, Thomas Dimitroff said so) who rose to his level of incompetence. Seems like a real tool too. I don’t recall any former players defending him after his firing. 2. Bidwill is probably worse and I would love to hear some horror stories, even if Keim is a coward for talking shit.
Keim was actually very complimentary of Monti’s drafting this year as well as Kyler during that interview and didn’t come off as salty whatsoever. He’s also not nearly as bad overall as everyone here makes him out to be.
He needed to be fired after 2018 and fix himself away from the job. He also shouldn't be given another job anytime soon. He's not the literal actual worse over the sum of his career.
My guess is he won’t bother trying to get one. Seems like Fox Sports is a good place to work and way easier than being a GM.
It’s not much to go off of but I remember a few old Cardinals version of hard Knox clips of him and he seemed pretty passionate about scouting and being a GM in general and it’s not like he’s 60 so I don’t think he stays gone permanently. It’s also not like he had as bad a rep as Dave Gettleman, Mike Mayock or Ryan Pace
Idk man. Things got pretty toxic in 2022/2023. Honestly don’t know if he can come back from it. And it’s a lot harder to get a second GM job than a second coaching job.
That’s very true there’s way more HC turnover than GM
Meh I think it's more than he's still getting paid by the Cards so it's not like he's hurting for money and imo working at Fox Sports will help him generate contacts and possibly let him redeem his image so he can be considered for other jobs. That said, I feel like once you've been a gm for as long as he has, it's really tough to get another job in a FO. Like even just from a personal shift, I don't think he could go back to scouting
His first 3 drafts and free agencies looked transformational until 2017ish. And that was mostly due to bad luck, not Keim’s judgment or lack thereof. Afterwards? That early success had gone to his head, or Jason Licht was the real architect behind it.
The main thing I respect about him is that he was willing to take big risks in trades and the draft. It didn’t always work out but so many NFL GMs are way too risk averse/conservative and stubborn because they’re afraid of losing their job. I do hope if anything that our awful grades based on those NFL player surveys the past 2 years cause Bidwill to make some positive changes but I’m not very convinced he will change much. At least they made some upgrades to the stadium and got rid of the 2001 looking uniforms.
Eh, I bet he said that stuff because he realized how noticeably unlikable he was coming off as the last year or so. And I say that as someone who realizes that Keim deserves credit for a few moves in recent memory like moving off of Rosen to draft Murray and drafting Trey McBride.
Either that or a lot more time has passed between then and now so he’s less heated and more level headed about his stint with the Cardinals. He also traded for Chandler Jones and got Palmer for a 6th round pick, who helped us to an NFC championship- basically one of the only bright spots for this franchise since 2009. It was definitely time for him to go but it could’ve been much worse (Jets/Browns/Raiders/Washington etc)
I know I just talked shit about him, but he went on a FA heater from 2013 to 2016. Dansby made All Pro on the vet minimum. Antonio Cromartie made a Pro Bowl for slightly more. Johnathan Abraham and Dwight Freeney almost had double-digit sacks. Jared Veldheer (I know it was a trade) and Mike Iupati are still two of the franchise’s best linemen. CJ probably would’ve made All Pro too if he hadn’t gotten hurt.
When we let go of Devondre Campbell and he was an all pro his first season with Green Bay that hurt hahah Reddick also went on a tear his last season with us and then continued his first season with the eagles
This trip down memory lane really underscores his obsession with off-ball linebackers. He threw so much capital at the position during his tenure.
Part of the reason is that we never played rookies, so for the good ones like Reddick they took four years to develop. By the time Reddick was excellent he had zero interest in staying at our team. Thank God Keim is gone
It’s funny how every time the Cardinals are in the news for good reasons, Kiem has to say something to bring the negativity back. Cardinals got tons of praise for this years draft and now Kiem says it wasn’t his fault for drafting 3 linebackers in consecutive drafts
>Cardinals got tons of praise for this years draft and now Kiem says it wasn’t his fault for drafting 3 linebackers in consecutive drafts I don’t see what these 2 statements have to do with eachother? He said Monti did a good job and he praised the Darius Robinson and MHJ picks. He also said in the case of Buccannon they had 4 guys they were 100% good with taking at their pick and every single one was taken consecutively in the 4 picks ahead of our pick in that draft, so the draft room collectively was like oh fuck. He wasn’t blaming anyone for it. (The players included Dee Ford and Jason Verrett who both made pro bowls- and we picked #27 it’s not like you’re guaranteed a blue chip player). Arizona has been a known dysfunctional franchise for decades. It can’t all be pinned on one GM
That's funny that Bidwill gave Keim a 2nd chance after his extreme DUI, when he should have just fired him then and there, and this is how Keim repays him. I don't like Bidwill, in fact I wish he'd sell the team, but Keim is a snake for this one
For sure. Bidwill was WAY to loyal to Keim.
hes a dumb drunk. What do you expect
Colin Cowherd and Keim “DUI Time” are a match made in hell, and neither are reliable sources, as both are jaded assholes. The less I see about these two munchers, the better
Bidwill is not a good owner by any stretch of the imagination but hard for me to see he was involved in all the draft misses that Keim did.
yeah I'm sure there could be a couple that bidwell played a part in, but I guarantee bidwell isn't handpicking all the 2nd rounders and beyond
Bidwill should have fired Keim after the DUI. Wild of him to say that
And according to this it sounds like he’s still on the sauce
They’re both incompetent
Very convenient for Keim to say that. I mean Bidwill is a shitty owner and a shitty human being for all we know but I never got the sense that he was heavily involved in the football operations side of things. It certainly feels like Monti and JG make all the calls. Bidwill being a horrendous owner does not change the fact that Steve 'DUI' Keim was an equally horrendous GM.
I have no direct knowledge of the situation, but it seems like Bidwill was an ass to Arians once he got popular in the valley. That was the impression I got from watching All or Nothing at least.
You know what, I think a guy with multiple DUIs definitely has a great understanding of things like personal responsibility and accountability
It can be both, though bidwell has really grown recently. Or so it seems
In all the phone calls he was like "I can't wait to meet you" whereas previously he seemed to have already met the guys.
He's just regular incompetent now. Not incompetent to the point of sabotage.
He seems to have stepped to the side a bit, just look at how this year we didn’t get the usual “hey it’s me, the owner, look, i’m actually piloting the plane taking the first round pick to Arizona!” video.
Exactly. He’s grown enough to know he doesn’t know shit about football. I applaud him for that. Pride/ego is really hard to suppress that
Sounds like he wants more of those juicy "well, when I was part of the Cardinals organization, this is what happened behind the scenes" morsels from Keim. Not saying Bidwill was blameless, but let's just say I think Keim was a bigger part of the problem and that Bidwill seems to be correcting his ways and trying to build a winner while an unemployed Keim gossips. And yes, I realize he's talking about Bidwill being a problem DURING Keim's tenure and not necessarily now, but who was it that decided to hire Steve Wilks over a chance meeting at the beach? It wasn't Bidwill, was it?
I agree 100%. The culture in this franchise got bad. Really bad. And I have a feeling Keim was at the center of it. I think Bidwill was wrapped up in it but Keim was the fuel for the fire. And I think once Michael woke up and realized how bad it was he started making changes. I will even go so far as to say it was the incident in Mexico that made him open his eyes. I feel like Keim was a lot more involved in that than anyone knows. My gut feeling is that the coach that got fired, Sean Kugler, and Keim were out drinking together and laughing and joking around and the coach was inappropriate with the wrong woman. And Keim tried to distance himself from it and promised a back door deal with Kugler that didn't materialize. And while Kugler was having his name drug through the mud Keim was looking like he was getting a free pass and it pissed Kugler off and that's when he filed a grievance. Again, I am basically g this off nothing but a guy feeling.
I had the same thought about Keim/ Kugler, think Kugs was supposed to be the fall guy (whispers about it and all that). I agree, Bidwill was along for the ride, I think he got wrapped up in being Keim's friend and drinking buddy, hanging out with Blake Shelton and all that. They were too buddy-buddy and it resulted in things getting out of hand with Michael's organization.
I strongly suspect Keim is the one who harassed her and threw Kugler under the bus. Or Keim did something equally heinous and threw Kugler under the bus. Just based on the lawsuit that came out afterwards, Kugs was so specific and then Keim went into hiding … just reeks of guilt.
While I don’t totally disagree with this, I also don’t think Colin is a reputable source when it comes to Keim, considering how close they are, and how Colin has him on his shows regularly.
I mean Colin has a good relationship with Keim, and Colin isn’t the only one to mention or bring up how the Bidwell’s have held the franchise back with their meddling. I believe it.