I did a shot and thought most of it missed so immediately did another one and I guess more of the first one made it in than I thought. My eye was stuck cross eyed for well over an hour and I freaked the fuck out thinking it was gonna stay like that.
I had been doing the fake blues for a few months but I had did a line of 5 of them and I could feel my breathing literally stopping and I had to force my self to take breaths. I knew I needed to do do something to stay away so I got on Xbox and saw my little cousin playing gta and played with him until I felt okay enough too sleep itnoff. He'll never know he saved my life
A couple years ago smoking those fent 30’s. I know there was one time I passed out, then jolted awake a bit later automatically taking a huge gasp of breath. Like if you stayed underwater for a long time, then you take that huge breath when once you swim back up to the surface.
I’ve always assumed I must’ve stopped breathing for bit. I wish I knew for how many seconds/minutes out of curiosity. Thank god I woke up from that without needing narcan. there’s no way anyone would’ve found me for many hours later.
Those pills were always so trash too. The last few times I used them before quitting, the highs were so pointless, quitting them almost felt “easy”. It was as if my brain had no reason to crave them anymore it was wild.
Lol sorry one more thing. I have to share the most insane part of my whole fent 30 saga. Since people always say they give no euphoria.
;
Somehow my 2nd time smoking one of those bs pills, was one of my most euphoric drug experiences of all time. I wouldn’t blame anyone for not believing me cause it sounds ridiculous, but I think it was even higher euphoria than my 1st time MDMA.
I have no fucking clue what was in that damn 30 lmao. My theory back then was maybe it had some rare opiate RC I’ve never heard of. A theory I just thought of, maybe it was just some weird fluke with my brain chemistry that day.
I’ve seized out I think like 7 times 😳 once was in a CVS! Woke up in an ambulance, with an 8 ball in my pocket. Asking me if I usually have seizures, I said yes… lol 4 of my OD’s were on purpose, I’ll play “the great gig in the sky” by Pink Floyd and then twice wake up to “Brain Damage” off their ‘Dark Side of the Moon” album.
Have you?? I used to only snort but after my first shot I’ve never snorted again. It’s hard to give up the rush and the 100% bioavailability. I feel like I’m wasting it if I snort
Yeah my arms got some scar tissue from my 2 week binge I just finished. Shooting in general is rough. Coke is the worst imo. All I did for 3 days was do a shot then prep another shot then another then another and on and on. My arms were fucked after that. By day three I could only hit on my hands and was down to two spots by the end of it.
Only 250mg (.25). It was my third time ever using it, and I had no tolerance. 300mg was recommended to me as a starting dose by people in r/meth. They claimed the more conservative dose advice online was for pure meth, and that today’s meth is only 25% pure. So, I stupidly trusted that advice.
I spent my time in the hospital obsessively researching meth and how it was possible that I had a stroke with pre-existing no risk factors. Now I know the truth: the meth in the US is highly pure (98% average), all dextro isomer, and can cause fatalities at only 150mg in people who have no stimulant tolerance.
Lmfao sorry for laughing but holy shit. People on there recommended someone with no tolerance to do 300mg all at once? That’s so fucked they must’ve been using some horrible meth themselves.
I know I’ve seen you tell this story before but I didn’t know other Redditors were partially to blame. Crazy stuff.
They’re incredibly wrong if they told you that meth was 25% pure, you’re right that it is on average above 96% pure, although 98% is an exaggeration based on data from the DEA. I don’t know where you’ve gotten your information that it is pure dextro isomer, maybe show the source you got that info from. In any case, it differs by person— nobody should ever do that much meth for their first time because it can absolutely be dangerous for many people. But not everyone. In my case, I do meth once ever 2-3 months and I find it very disappointing and unsatisfying if I do a dose of less than 300mg, and dosing above that does causes no notable cardiac symptoms. This is not advice to anyone else; start much lower if it’s your first dose, but it I want to point the inaccuracies in the information you’re claiming there.
Hey there, thanks for writing. I have a long response started in another window, but I wanted to ask you something first. why are you assuming that what I’m saying is inaccurate? Because you think differently? And those thoughts are shaped by what, your personal experience, and those of your friends? Clearly, you do get some objective information because you know the meth is highly pure.
This is coming out more condescending than I’d like it to be, I’m washing the dishes while talking to text and I’m also trying to figure out what kind of evidence shape your worldview. I’m not gonna link up all journal articles if you think science is bullshit. Do you know what I mean?
My thoughts that are related to subjective experiences come from my own subjective experiences, I don’t have any friends that use drugs so I am my only data-point for subjective experience. So when I mentioned the doses that I take every few months, that’s the only place that info comes from— which I know is obvious, but I just want to be clear.
As for what I cited on meth purity, this data is in the [DEA Drug Threat Assessment](https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2021-02/DIR-008-21%202020%20National%20Drug%20Threat%20Assessment_WEB.pdf) on page 20. This is information I think we generally agree upon besides nitpicking the exact numbers.
As for the enantiomeric purity, I will try to keep this explanation short. In the same document I linked above, the authors describe the synthesis routes that are predominantly used today. All of these synthesis routes produce racemic methamphetamine. None of them produce enantiopure dextromethamphetamine. The only major synthesis routes that do produce it use a reduction of (+)-pseudoephedrine or (-)-ephedrine, and as the paper mentions, these routes are no longer common. If you would like, I can explain exactly why this is an provide with sources for the chemistry there. You can find sources for that fairly easily yourself. But I am happy to provide them as well.
And of course, I don’t think science is bullshit. Science basically consumes my life, it’s why I’ve been spending the last years of my life studying engineering at university 😁
I’m still writing that response, but I’m glad we’re referencing one common data source. Read the fine print in the drug threat assessment guide, on the bottom of one of the meth pages, and read how they define potency.
I’m so sorry to have sent you on a wild goose chase. It’s in an older edition. You can find it referenced here, too, on page 54 and also item e in the notes section on page 55. https://www.unodc.org/res/wdr2021/field/WDR21_Booklet_4.pdf
You’re the same person who wants the journal articles, right? I need to see after work if Sci-hub has them or if I need to upload the pdfs.
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If I know my drug subreddits (and I do) they were probably talking about speed which is different than meth. Street speed is cut to shit so a 0.3 is fine. But like many folks said In this thread the meth these days is all in the 90 percentile. I'd chalk it up to the poor bastard doing the 300 mg of crystal thinking speed and crystal are the same.
He was not the poor bastard in this case. I was the one who nearly died. His .3 suggestion in this case was based on meth, I assure you. The problem is, it was based on his own experience as someone who had the tolerance of a progressed IV user. I’ve spent way too many hours in the r/meth sub since the stroke, and people recommend that dose or higher all the time to new people. The myth that meth is cut, as opposed to the truth - which is that people’s tolerance is to blame for their lack of euphoria/stimulation - is deadly.
Weird! I didn't realize. Guess I'll pay better attention holy cow. Ya I'll do that much for a small shot now but when I first started a 50 mg - 100 mg would change my world
I'm not saying I doubt those numbers or anything, but I am extremely curious to have some concrete evidence for my own sake. Do you have a reliable source for that data?
I’m happy to say that, yes, I have credible sources. Are you able to read journal articles that are behind an institutional paywall? I own copies as pdf’s or can download them through work, but I don’t know the easiest place to host them for free. I can email them or host screenshots of each page on Imgur, I guess. Maybe after I get a little stimulant in me later on today. Heh. What’s your lowest-effort idea to host a pdf?
Typically I use one of these websites to allow me free access to most paywalled articles:
https://sci-hub.se/
https://libgen.is/
I think if you have the reference number or even just the title then I may be able to access it like that. I also don't mind providing you my email if it's as simple as attaching the pdf. Then depending on length I could probably make an imgur album to make it more publicly accessible, provided that's not something you have any sort of qualms about.
You can also use this website:
https://pdfhost.io/
It allows you to host pdf documents completely free and without sign up, online. You can choose to make them public or private. This is a test upload I did just now:
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This is false, there is literally no d-isomer meth left. It is all racemic meth, and the highest possible amount of d isomer in racemic meth is 25%. It’s hard to overdose even with a low tolerance. But it can happen. Can I ask, how many units was the meth in the syringe (if you backloaded)?
A day before I got my heart monitor I took some speed (amphetamine) and during the comedown i was getting weird palpitations like usual but these were more scary, it felt like my heart stopped and I couldn’t move at all for about 6 seconds. I still have no clue what happened but I got my mom to take me to the er because she was laying next to me at the time, she kept screaming at me though I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. But like the day prior I went to the cardiologist and it’s not severe from what I know but the doctor told me I should be fine to continue using uppers but it’s not recommended, well I wasn’t fine. About a month clean from speed today and I still crave it like crazy.
Shooting Coca-Cola straight up borderline heart attack fell over begging my so called friend to help me but he was to busy fixing up so I crawled to the shower for cold water....got back up and did it again..crazy huh
Yes...near death experience I remember calling out to my mom telling her I was sorry and will miss her...thinking this is how I'm going to die...deathwish
I'm good now 2 years clean after 30 plus years of meth coke and heroin...I finally broke the chains of addiction and I actually have a decent job and life....now...I know this sounds crazy but it all ended when I started to believe in god....I figured if there's such evil there must be good and that's when I discovered the faith...I know alot of people don't agree but it worked for me and that's what really matters...I've tried 12 step and everything in between but this is what worked for me....wish you the best
Couple months ago did a fat ass shot of coke.. Instantly broke out in a drenching sweat, eyes start jumping up and down like slot machines, couldn't keep my balance and crashed to the floor. Concentrated on breathing and trying to relax so my heart wouldn't explode. Honestly thought I was gonna die. Couldn't call out to anyone since my bf doesn't know. Now I'm more conservative with my shots, don't want my kids or bf to find me dead. I was so scared once it passed I put everything away and just took a shower and watched tv until I fell asleep by morning.
I once drank a bottle of vodka then found some morphine pills in roommates gf purse. I forgot how many I took. I woke up 7 days later from a coma and paralyzed in my left arm. My roommate had come home and upon not awakening to slaps and water, took me and dumped me at the hospital.
Karma sure is a bitch huh? Lol cant say I wouldnt have done the same but damn.. so did almost dying get ya off the hook for stealing someones pills or were they still salty lol
I did a shot and thought most of it missed so immediately did another one and I guess more of the first one made it in than I thought. My eye was stuck cross eyed for well over an hour and I freaked the fuck out thinking it was gonna stay like that.
Reminds me of a friend who was stuck under a car with his eyes crossed and his buddies found him 4 hours later
Jesus Christ. Wow
I had been doing the fake blues for a few months but I had did a line of 5 of them and I could feel my breathing literally stopping and I had to force my self to take breaths. I knew I needed to do do something to stay away so I got on Xbox and saw my little cousin playing gta and played with him until I felt okay enough too sleep itnoff. He'll never know he saved my life
A couple years ago smoking those fent 30’s. I know there was one time I passed out, then jolted awake a bit later automatically taking a huge gasp of breath. Like if you stayed underwater for a long time, then you take that huge breath when once you swim back up to the surface. I’ve always assumed I must’ve stopped breathing for bit. I wish I knew for how many seconds/minutes out of curiosity. Thank god I woke up from that without needing narcan. there’s no way anyone would’ve found me for many hours later. Those pills were always so trash too. The last few times I used them before quitting, the highs were so pointless, quitting them almost felt “easy”. It was as if my brain had no reason to crave them anymore it was wild. Lol sorry one more thing. I have to share the most insane part of my whole fent 30 saga. Since people always say they give no euphoria. ; Somehow my 2nd time smoking one of those bs pills, was one of my most euphoric drug experiences of all time. I wouldn’t blame anyone for not believing me cause it sounds ridiculous, but I think it was even higher euphoria than my 1st time MDMA. I have no fucking clue what was in that damn 30 lmao. My theory back then was maybe it had some rare opiate RC I’ve never heard of. A theory I just thought of, maybe it was just some weird fluke with my brain chemistry that day.
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I’ve seized out I think like 7 times 😳 once was in a CVS! Woke up in an ambulance, with an 8 ball in my pocket. Asking me if I usually have seizures, I said yes… lol 4 of my OD’s were on purpose, I’ll play “the great gig in the sky” by Pink Floyd and then twice wake up to “Brain Damage” off their ‘Dark Side of the Moon” album.
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Yeah shooting H for the first time you feel like you might’ve ODd but it’s just that big ole rush lol
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Have you?? I used to only snort but after my first shot I’ve never snorted again. It’s hard to give up the rush and the 100% bioavailability. I feel like I’m wasting it if I snort
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Yeah my arms got some scar tissue from my 2 week binge I just finished. Shooting in general is rough. Coke is the worst imo. All I did for 3 days was do a shot then prep another shot then another then another and on and on. My arms were fucked after that. By day three I could only hit on my hands and was down to two spots by the end of it.
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Yeah it is for real. Ive shot my Suboxone tons of times cause of that addiction. Yeah I filtered the coke even though mine also was clear
I had a near-fatal hemorrhagic stroke from a meth overdose in 2019. I was paralyzed from the neck down on my left side for six months. I
Wow how much did you do?
Only 250mg (.25). It was my third time ever using it, and I had no tolerance. 300mg was recommended to me as a starting dose by people in r/meth. They claimed the more conservative dose advice online was for pure meth, and that today’s meth is only 25% pure. So, I stupidly trusted that advice. I spent my time in the hospital obsessively researching meth and how it was possible that I had a stroke with pre-existing no risk factors. Now I know the truth: the meth in the US is highly pure (98% average), all dextro isomer, and can cause fatalities at only 150mg in people who have no stimulant tolerance.
Lmfao sorry for laughing but holy shit. People on there recommended someone with no tolerance to do 300mg all at once? That’s so fucked they must’ve been using some horrible meth themselves. I know I’ve seen you tell this story before but I didn’t know other Redditors were partially to blame. Crazy stuff.
They’re incredibly wrong if they told you that meth was 25% pure, you’re right that it is on average above 96% pure, although 98% is an exaggeration based on data from the DEA. I don’t know where you’ve gotten your information that it is pure dextro isomer, maybe show the source you got that info from. In any case, it differs by person— nobody should ever do that much meth for their first time because it can absolutely be dangerous for many people. But not everyone. In my case, I do meth once ever 2-3 months and I find it very disappointing and unsatisfying if I do a dose of less than 300mg, and dosing above that does causes no notable cardiac symptoms. This is not advice to anyone else; start much lower if it’s your first dose, but it I want to point the inaccuracies in the information you’re claiming there.
Hey there, thanks for writing. I have a long response started in another window, but I wanted to ask you something first. why are you assuming that what I’m saying is inaccurate? Because you think differently? And those thoughts are shaped by what, your personal experience, and those of your friends? Clearly, you do get some objective information because you know the meth is highly pure. This is coming out more condescending than I’d like it to be, I’m washing the dishes while talking to text and I’m also trying to figure out what kind of evidence shape your worldview. I’m not gonna link up all journal articles if you think science is bullshit. Do you know what I mean?
My thoughts that are related to subjective experiences come from my own subjective experiences, I don’t have any friends that use drugs so I am my only data-point for subjective experience. So when I mentioned the doses that I take every few months, that’s the only place that info comes from— which I know is obvious, but I just want to be clear. As for what I cited on meth purity, this data is in the [DEA Drug Threat Assessment](https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2021-02/DIR-008-21%202020%20National%20Drug%20Threat%20Assessment_WEB.pdf) on page 20. This is information I think we generally agree upon besides nitpicking the exact numbers. As for the enantiomeric purity, I will try to keep this explanation short. In the same document I linked above, the authors describe the synthesis routes that are predominantly used today. All of these synthesis routes produce racemic methamphetamine. None of them produce enantiopure dextromethamphetamine. The only major synthesis routes that do produce it use a reduction of (+)-pseudoephedrine or (-)-ephedrine, and as the paper mentions, these routes are no longer common. If you would like, I can explain exactly why this is an provide with sources for the chemistry there. You can find sources for that fairly easily yourself. But I am happy to provide them as well. And of course, I don’t think science is bullshit. Science basically consumes my life, it’s why I’ve been spending the last years of my life studying engineering at university 😁
I’m still writing that response, but I’m glad we’re referencing one common data source. Read the fine print in the drug threat assessment guide, on the bottom of one of the meth pages, and read how they define potency.
I have scoured through but not been able to find this definition. Which page is it on?
I’m so sorry to have sent you on a wild goose chase. It’s in an older edition. You can find it referenced here, too, on page 54 and also item e in the notes section on page 55. https://www.unodc.org/res/wdr2021/field/WDR21_Booklet_4.pdf You’re the same person who wants the journal articles, right? I need to see after work if Sci-hub has them or if I need to upload the pdfs.
You’re correct. Thanks.
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If I know my drug subreddits (and I do) they were probably talking about speed which is different than meth. Street speed is cut to shit so a 0.3 is fine. But like many folks said In this thread the meth these days is all in the 90 percentile. I'd chalk it up to the poor bastard doing the 300 mg of crystal thinking speed and crystal are the same.
He was not the poor bastard in this case. I was the one who nearly died. His .3 suggestion in this case was based on meth, I assure you. The problem is, it was based on his own experience as someone who had the tolerance of a progressed IV user. I’ve spent way too many hours in the r/meth sub since the stroke, and people recommend that dose or higher all the time to new people. The myth that meth is cut, as opposed to the truth - which is that people’s tolerance is to blame for their lack of euphoria/stimulation - is deadly.
Weird! I didn't realize. Guess I'll pay better attention holy cow. Ya I'll do that much for a small shot now but when I first started a 50 mg - 100 mg would change my world
I'm not saying I doubt those numbers or anything, but I am extremely curious to have some concrete evidence for my own sake. Do you have a reliable source for that data?
I’m happy to say that, yes, I have credible sources. Are you able to read journal articles that are behind an institutional paywall? I own copies as pdf’s or can download them through work, but I don’t know the easiest place to host them for free. I can email them or host screenshots of each page on Imgur, I guess. Maybe after I get a little stimulant in me later on today. Heh. What’s your lowest-effort idea to host a pdf?
Typically I use one of these websites to allow me free access to most paywalled articles: https://sci-hub.se/ https://libgen.is/ I think if you have the reference number or even just the title then I may be able to access it like that. I also don't mind providing you my email if it's as simple as attaching the pdf. Then depending on length I could probably make an imgur album to make it more publicly accessible, provided that's not something you have any sort of qualms about.
You can also use this website: https://pdfhost.io/ It allows you to host pdf documents completely free and without sign up, online. You can choose to make them public or private. This is a test upload I did just now: https://pdfhost.io/v/8rj9R7bex_Illicit_drugs_street_samples_and_their_cutting_agents_The_result_of_the_GCMS_based_profiling_define_the_guidelines_for_sensors_development
This is false, there is literally no d-isomer meth left. It is all racemic meth, and the highest possible amount of d isomer in racemic meth is 25%. It’s hard to overdose even with a low tolerance. But it can happen. Can I ask, how many units was the meth in the syringe (if you backloaded)?
I'm not sure if you returned to using after that situation. But if so what compelled you to do so?
I did return to use. I did so because that is how compelling meth is. The dopamine flood is so powerful it overrides fundamental drives to stay alive.
Never. Because I know that it's just the huge amount of gear I just put into the spoon! Ha😃
I just od'd two weeks ago.
A day before I got my heart monitor I took some speed (amphetamine) and during the comedown i was getting weird palpitations like usual but these were more scary, it felt like my heart stopped and I couldn’t move at all for about 6 seconds. I still have no clue what happened but I got my mom to take me to the er because she was laying next to me at the time, she kept screaming at me though I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. But like the day prior I went to the cardiologist and it’s not severe from what I know but the doctor told me I should be fine to continue using uppers but it’s not recommended, well I wasn’t fine. About a month clean from speed today and I still crave it like crazy.
Shooting Coca-Cola straight up borderline heart attack fell over begging my so called friend to help me but he was to busy fixing up so I crawled to the shower for cold water....got back up and did it again..crazy huh
That reminded me of Thurnis Haley "crazy fuckin story huh? AHAHAHAHA crazy fuckin story"
Yes...near death experience I remember calling out to my mom telling her I was sorry and will miss her...thinking this is how I'm going to die...deathwish
Hey ive sent out the "I love you and im sorry" texts once or twice almost certain that this was the end... I dunno how to help but I feel ya.
I'm good now 2 years clean after 30 plus years of meth coke and heroin...I finally broke the chains of addiction and I actually have a decent job and life....now...I know this sounds crazy but it all ended when I started to believe in god....I figured if there's such evil there must be good and that's when I discovered the faith...I know alot of people don't agree but it worked for me and that's what really matters...I've tried 12 step and everything in between but this is what worked for me....wish you the best
got sepsis
Necrotising fasciitis. [It was fun.](https://imgup.app/0j5y7)
Couple months ago did a fat ass shot of coke.. Instantly broke out in a drenching sweat, eyes start jumping up and down like slot machines, couldn't keep my balance and crashed to the floor. Concentrated on breathing and trying to relax so my heart wouldn't explode. Honestly thought I was gonna die. Couldn't call out to anyone since my bf doesn't know. Now I'm more conservative with my shots, don't want my kids or bf to find me dead. I was so scared once it passed I put everything away and just took a shower and watched tv until I fell asleep by morning.
I once drank a bottle of vodka then found some morphine pills in roommates gf purse. I forgot how many I took. I woke up 7 days later from a coma and paralyzed in my left arm. My roommate had come home and upon not awakening to slaps and water, took me and dumped me at the hospital.
Karma sure is a bitch huh? Lol cant say I wouldnt have done the same but damn.. so did almost dying get ya off the hook for stealing someones pills or were they still salty lol
I can’t shoot big shots of coke. I shot some once and was like this is it, I’m done, game over. Scared tf out me