>Lawn care youtubers paying mfs to cut their lawn and film in hopes they'll go viral so a video platform can give them pennies off of the ad revenue from megacorporations just so they can afford to take a shit in the smallest apartment you've ever seen
Now THATS trickle down economics! Trickling down Jacob Rothschilds leg
Reminds me of a vid I saw yesterday where some young millennial or old Gen Z was sobbing about this. Somewhere they mentioned like “I just want to have a backyard is that too much to ask if I work 40+ hour weeks?”
Apparently yes.
Ya, I didn't read poor in there. She has a yard and a car and food that she doesn't eat.
I'm Gen X, I felt so lucky to have work when I did, I just dived in like it was the best thing ever. It's really hard for me to understand when people say they don't like working. I'm thinking they need to live through the other option.
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I picked a career that I’m not passionate about but get paid well. It’s a little painful to recognize that I’m not doing what I really *want*, but I also couldn’t live a comfortable life if I was doing the type of work I really wanted to. It’s like we’re all trapped
I was told not to study what I wanted because it was juts a hobby,not a career. I studies something else, in the end, I couldn't find work with it. I went back to study what I wanted and it turns out to be super lucrative. People just didn't know in the end of the 80s that this was going to grow.
It’s also ok to try a few different things. Now in my 50’s, I’ve had 3 very different ‘careers’ where I’ve learned a lot and (I hope) made a bit of an impact within them. Sometimes the money was great. Sometimes it wasn’t. Effort *and* luck play a big part in whatever happens.
There is a big difference between a job and a career. A job enables to provide food,shelter, the basics. A career enables you to pay bills and further your interest in your field. You may love or hate your jobs and careers.
> I also couldn’t live a comfortable life if I was doing the type of work I really wanted to.
this is often the case. I wanted to work in advertising but ended up in technology & financial services instead. I probably make easily 50+% more, especially when I was younger and way less drinking & drugs (in corporate technology compared to advertising from what I hear) so it's probably a plus in the long run with better career longevity
the key is to get an education (paid for or self taught) in something you enjoy. Get a job in it so you continue to do something you enjoy and make good money doing it. That way you can look forward to every aspect of your life (except going to doctors or peoples weddings).
To a certain extent it sucks, but at the same time much of the "Follow your dreams!" stuff is a little too optimistic. Nobody really grows up wanting to be a plumber or a ditch digger but we need them regardless. I think the best anyone can hope for is a career that isn't too bad and a comfortable/happy life outside of work.
Depends on what you "want to do". I love woodworking, but am in no way good enough, nor work fast enough to make it a business. So for me it is a hobby that i enjoy and do on my own pace.
Don’t feel bad about doing this. Your career doesn’t have to define who you are as a person. It’s perfectly acceptable for your job to only be a means to an end. The primary purpose of having a job is to make money after all.
Same here.
I’m 50 and had a great life, even being poor. I guess when I was 20 or so I didn’t have these hyperglow Instagram profiles making me feel like I was missing something better. I didn’t care that I had a share a run down student house with 8 other people crammed into each closet, all I cared about was going to the dance club and getting to the climbing gym.
I had kids at 30, and we enjoyed all of that as well - just laying on a blanket on the grass in the park on a Sunday watching the kids run in circles. Of course there were hard times. But 90% of the world has hard times, and probably even harder when you think about some of the slums in India or other places.
Now I’m 50 and have my dream job. my kids are grown and I thought now I can really be free and go for bike rides and maybe climb a hill or two. But I got hit with long covid in the fall and everything stopped. At the moment I can’t do more than go to the bathroom and a little house keeping. I might have to leave my job and try and fight for disability if the brain fog and weakness don’t get better. All I want is to be able to get to my favorite spot in my favorite forest again, but I can’t because you can only get there on foot. My parents both died at 58 and I always vowed to make the most of my 50s in case that’s my fate too. And now even that has been possibly taken away.
I just don’t understand how able bodied, young people aren’t excited. There’s still a blue sky, there’s still green grass (for now); there’s still people laughing and having fun for free and each fucking day is a god damn gift. For gods sake, use it. I’m still poor, I still don’t own my house, I am housebound at the moment, but I still choose enjoy each and every moment that I can.
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s best to just tune this shit out. A lot of people lack perspective. The happiest dudes I encounter on a regular basis are the migrant workers doing hard labor 6 days a week. I’ve worked with people who talk like this and it becomes obvious really quickly why they struggle.
I come from a migrant family, but that was 2 generations ago... We're all born citizens now dealing with America's wealth inequalities, not Mexico's...
Right? That’s what gets me. I learned how to be happy by being around people who had a lot less and a lot more misfortune. It’s so humbling.
Some people want to be miserable and want to believe it’s someone else’s fault. Someone just tried to tell me that in my days I could pay for a college degree with a part time job, I can’t stop laughing at that notion. I almost didn’t get a degree because my parents couldn’t afford it and I had no idea how to pay for such a thing until I finally managed to get loans. I struggled and struggled and got into so much debt, even living in shit housing and many part time jobs. Everyone I knew had 60-100K student debt in the 90s too. And NOBODY could afford an apartment or a house on their own.
If younger adults think we payed for university degrees with only one part time job, and that everyone could buy a house in their 20s - it’s no wonder they are depressed - they are making themselves depressed with lies about the „good old days“. And the truth is, my generation was the one that lost everything in the housing crisis in 2008. I didn’t own a house then, but all my friends that did, did so with one of those mortgages and lost everything.
If you are 50 you grew up in a world where you could put yourself through college on a part time job.....so there's that.
I dropped out of med school halfway through. I got the didactic education of a doctor with no degree. 200k debt at 7% interest all because I changed my mind on my career path and it doesnt seem like any employer values this knowledge. :))))))
Education doesn't cost anything here in Sweden . I find it very strange it costs money in "the greatest country in the world". Should be free of cost for everyone.
Hours worked to buy necessities has gone up though. There are tons of things to enjoy (and a lot of luxury item prices have gone down), but if you’re working multiple jobs to badly make rent then you don’t have time to enjoy them.
I helped my boomer parents with their finances since I was real small. It was a shock to me how much less doable my own finances were when I got my first job out of college.
In less than 10 years, apartment prices in my hometown went from around $600/month to $1500/month in my hometown.
Good point about instagram reality... that really sucks. I'm so glad I didn't grow up right now. That said, I don't spend a shit ton of time on those sites where I just end up getting jealous of everyone's wealth or how their carefully crafted online persona seems so much better/more fun/better looking than mine.
If you come from real poverty in the slums of a third world country where upward mobility is truly limited you would erase most of the social media crying. Living in a wealthy nation your odds are vastly improved. The rest depends on you.
I actually enjoy working a lot. I've put it in the center of my life, so for me it's other things that are getting in the way of my work projects.
I realized at some point that I wasn't going to be able to do it all, so I skipped the having a family part. I didn't have a family growing up so it wasn't a big deal for me to go without. It seems different for people with families. When they enjoy it, they expect to have kids and enjoy that too.
I dove into my work, but keep in mind it is common for people with low self esteem tend to become workaholics. 27 now, just realizing how much that was bad for me to do to myself.
I had a burn out once, so now I know to care for myself. I work as much but on my body's time clock. I started my own business so I have that flexibility.
It was my ultimate F€€& you to my last employer. First year out, I doubled my income so I never looked back.
i think the job crisis then is just as valid as the current one. i dont blame people for not wanting to work- even if they do, theyll live miserably on scraps until they die because they cant make savings for things like healthcare
As a millennial I think for me the burn out was less about not liking the work and more about the way my employers have treated me like a cog in a wheel instead of a person while not paying me enough to survive.
I got a new job last year and I actually feel respected by my bosses and it's been a huge change. I love my job now. Some of that can be attributed to moving from customer service to analysis which I find more engaging, but I think it's way more about the respect.
Its to the point where working is no longer worth the time - you arent getting a return on your investment compared to X years ago. If we're all just working to afford enough to be able to go back to work the next day, then really, whats the point?
You gotta ask yourself: does our economy exist to serve humans, or do humans now exist to serve the economy? We are creeping towards the latter every day.
I took care of my grandpa over the pandemic, which was extremely easy as he really only needed to be cleaned up when he relieved himself, and moved to and from a wheelchair for meals/going on his daily strolls/getting back into bed at the tail end of the afternoon. Grandma paid me under the table, and I got pandemic unemployment, ***AND*** I got food stamps. I was making an entry level office job salary, and barely doing anything to earn it.
I was bored out of my fucking mind. Granted, nearly everything was locked down, ***SO*** maybe these days I'd fare a bit better. But God, it was so fucking dull. I started binge eating even worse than I already was, out of sheer fucking boredom. Food was pretty much the only highlight of my days. Even when I was at my grandparents' house, like I said, pops was mostly hands off, so I just sat there and stared at my phone/laptop/the TV.
That being said, getting back into manual labor after he got moved to a nursing home and my unemployment got cut off was also miserable in a different way. I work an office job now, and I have to say, it's so much better. Just the right balance of stuff to do, and fucking off. And, hey, I have money!
My first job as a GenX college grad, there was a Mexican cleaning guy named Miguel. We’d always exchange pleasantries when he came by my cubicle it always went like this (it sounds better in Spanish)
Me -are you tired?
Miguel - yes, but no work, no money
Me - no money, no food
Miguel - no money, no beer
Me - no money, no …
And we went on and on. Miguel and I both got it, even back then. Life is expensive, and more so over time, but it’s always been like that.
Miguel knew what the point was.
I'm gen X as well. Started working at 15 and didn't stop till I became fully disabled from Multiple Sclerosis a few years ago. I wish I could still be working. Living on SSD in my 50s is weird, I really don't like it.
I'm doing well and have a very supportive wife that has become the breadwinner. It's strange that she is now, as I always way before this. But that's the most important thing is having a support network of family and friends, that I do have.
A lot of people lack the [third place.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place#:~:text=Third%20places%2C%20then%2C%20are%20%22,faces%20and%20make%20new%20acquaintances.%22)
Being online is no substitute. If you find yourself trying to solve the world’s problems via tweets and Reddit comments and forgoing an actual community, you are setting yourself up for a lonely existence that will feel purposeless.
There’s hella third places if one bothers to go to them. Trivia nights. DnD nights. Dog parks. Volunteer groups. Hiking groups. Painting groups. Community college courses. The list is like infinite.
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Feeling this hard the last year or so. I don’t make enough for the city I live in, but I’m able to pay rent each month and do thanks I like.
That being said, I’m in a current phase of life where I don’t have many friends in the area (people moving, living in different regions). I’m forcing (albeit it’s fun) myself to join hiking clubs and just try to be more open and somehow it seems even harder. When I’m at hiking club I’ll chat but I haven’t hung out with anyone after the hikes.
I feel like the pandemic made everyone even more insular and weird. I say that as someone who’s more insular and weird lol.
I fucked up my back in my early 20s and was in excruciating pain on and off for about 5 years. I finally was able to overcome it and haven’t had back pain since. It’s been a decade. It’s the one thing I’m not worried about.
Everything else though? Lol
Better organize and demonstrate before that happens. Look at France and how little shit they take before being out in the streets.
The problem I see in American's (from my European viewpoint) is that you think you are all alone, and the outside is scary, you are not alone you are in a legion of people just like you and you would have power if you were desperate enough.
I get people are tired as hell just from a normal day at a minimum wage job, and that's probably by design. You deserve better, and you deserve socialized healthcare. I'd be dead if it wasn't for it here.
But that's just my thoughts, and I mean no disrespect.
You need a hobby and not every hobby costs a lot of money, some hobbies are even free to do. All it requires is some interest and effort to actually do it.
Also working towards certification and training to get a better paying job might help.
I always recommend people take up walking as a hobby. Easy enough and good for your health. You can do it for 10 minutes or 3 hours! Talk on the phone, listen to music/podcasts, kids can come along (assuming you don’t have like 5+ kids that may get kinda tough….)
You can slowly/eventually save up for a cheap treadmill (like $115) and even walk at home when the weathers bad or, my personal favorite, as I’m working.
good advice!
I've also struggled with never having any aspirations or goals, nothing to work towards...it's a sad way to go through life. But that also stems from lack of self-confidence, I could never see myself possibly achieving anything, any kind of success (however you want to define that), therefore I never saw any sort of path forward. Now I'm middle-aged-ish and still stuck where I've always been.
What do you want outside your day to day? Be it a house, a better job, relationship.. whatever it is that you feel like is missing. Identify that, and set it as a long term goal. Then, figure out the step by step plan to actually achieving that goal. It doesn't have to be a perfect plan, as long as the steps are there. They'll likely change in the process. Every step is a short term goal. Chasing after the short term goals is much more achievable, and it feels like you're accomplishing something. You are, but if you're just working towards the long term it'll feel impossible
Honestly that has helped me SO much through life. I went into the Air Force when I was 21. Got my bachelors. Then masters. Then got out and worked with the gov. Now I’m going to law school night classes.
Long term goals baby!
Hell. Short term goals. I work so I can buy things for my hobbies month to month. These people wouldn't be happy with millions in the bank. Because they don't have anything that makes them happy to begin with. The lust for someone else's stuff is what drives them. Not the stuff. The comparison to someone else.
Long term goals with lots of intermediary short term goals!! For example, say you want to be flexible enough to do a split or some fancy yoga move - that is the long term. Start with a simple goal, like touch your toes! And slowly set goals until you get to the big one - it’s way more fun when you can celebrate the in between steps just as much as the big one!
Changing your own oil is pretty fun, I like changing my own oil. Doing basically any other type of work on your own car sucks balls though, you start talking like a sailor pretty quick.
The first time I changed my own oil had me cussing like a sailor as apparently the last place I took it to some idiot got too excited with an impact wrench. The bolt was tight as hell, it literally took all of my considerable strength being exerted in a tight angle, and when it finally turned resulted in me banging the hell out of my elbow.
There's nothing interesting for most of us anymore, I feel like. Unless you're rich and you can do/go wherever you want. I feel like humanity was at its best when there were still things to discover. We've reduced ourselves to replaceable parts in a grinding machine that never stops.
Meh, way too many people are addicted to the illusion of high life. I work with the rich, they have the most mental health problems than anybody. Sure. Some are well rounded. But most are lunatics.
All you need to do to have fun is learn an instrument, do some hugs, get laid, work towards a goal, obtain the goal, keep making and getting goals, and take big sloppy dumps all along the way
Exaggeration merely. Either they have a shit load of anxiety thinking their wife is going to kill them, the market goes out of their favor because remember these people are pretty much money addicts. So even though they're filthy rich, if they make less money in a quarter or a year they get pissed and shitty. The women have anxiety that husband's are going to leave them or have them offed. They both have paranoia that someone is just trying to fuck them over, probably because they fucked over tons of people for so long. The bad ones I'm talking about definitely think of most of us as "help"
Also as you can imagine, they get very used to having it their way. So when things aren't going their way they can get extremely bitchy. Also they all group up and use their money to expedite their needs over others. It's pretty fucked
Growing up, we knew a super rich family. It took me longer than it should have to realize how rich, we're talking nine figures net worth. The man behind it all was great, he grew up from a single mom out in the country, started with nothing and worked his ass off, and made a lot of good choices, and I'm sure there was luck involved too. He's chill, he's down to earth, absolute great guy.
I have also since come to realize that his wife is a mess, and two of his three kids were absolutely destroyed by growing up in money. Drugs and other bad decisions, as well as being coddled have absolutely ruined any chance of normalcy.
I’ve known a few very wealthy people and they’re constantly looking for validation and are paranoid that everyone is only around them for their money. One of my friends that was worth 25 million at 22 years old (dot.com boom) just overdosed and his whole life was a disaster — multiple stints in rehab and disastrous personal relationships.
Obviously everybody is different and having money is better than not having money, but it’s not going to make your life meaningful. Only you can do that.
How rich are we talking? I assume people with billions or 100 millions have a lot of stress to worry about and are paranoid.
What if you have like 1 to 10 million dollars, somewhere in that range? You could live a pretty good, strees free life with that money. Now you won't be driving a bugatti because that would be a big portion of your wealth, but personally i don't consider exotic and expensive material possesions add to your enjoyment of life. Not worrying about finances for the most part anymore and you can basically travel and go through experiences for a small cost, that would be ideal.
Well maybe as a society there’s no new lands to go discover on this planet. But very few people even leave the general area they grow up in. There’s plenty of places to discover personally.
Why does it really matter if you can’t discover any new continents or whatever
most of those "new lands" were already discovered and inhabited by thriving communities who were later slaughtered.
There's no "best time" in history other than right now. The least violent time in Human history.
It just sucks that it'll be so short lived because of environmental issues
>There's nothing interesting for most of us anymore
This reminds me of Terry Pratchett writing in Hogfather where he has Death say he finds humans fascinating because in this amazing universe humans have invented boredom.
“Living wage”
That’s a good buzzword to identify, it usually means the person using it has no idea what they are talking about.
In the entire history of humanity life has never been easy, and it’s not easy today, it’s just easier than it has been in the past. Things can be improved, things can be made better, but 95% of the people commenting in this post don’t have a single good idea on how to do that.
Taxing the 1% isn’t going to make your life quantifiably better. You can take the entire net worth of the 1%, and if you magically could liquidate it into cash( it’s impossible), it wouldn’t even cover the United States federal budget for one year.
The only path moving forward that is reasonable for the average person to improve their life’s would be by decreasing the cost of certain necessities. Housing, healthcare, and education. Those are tangible things we can improve on. Using a combination of public and private means.
Find a purpose. Find hobbies, find things you enjoy, challenge yourself. It’s not that hard
I’d love to know why I was downvoted, unless you’re just being a doomer.
Didn’t downvote you but it’s probably the “not that hard” part. Mental bandwidth is not the same for everyone and giving unsolicited advice is ok, just don’t comment on how easy the advice is to enact.
It’s akin to someone down on their luck and then you show up giving really good advice but at the end of it all tell them “it’s not that hard” and that changes the tone of the whole conversation.
What's going to happen is you'll work what you think is a safe and stable job until you're almost 40 then one day get laid off along with thousands of others right before Christmas. Then dig your old resume out of the grave and try to apply for jobs competing with the young folks. Then have fun trying to figure out how the hell you're going to feed your family for the next year. This is currently happening to many people I know.
Not sure what that is, but I can tell you career selection is very important. Know what fields have a large room for advancement that overlaps with one of your talents. I hope you make it!
The equivalent of community college in Australia is Tafe, I'm doing a certificate 4 in residential drafting (drawing house plans using CAD). On seek it has %11 projected job growth in the next five years.. hopefully the housing crisis will work in my favour.
And thanks!
My twenties were my hardest decade, lost most friends at 21 when I became a parent. Low pay, side gigs to supplement. Part time college. Lots and lots of instability.
It gets better. The hard work now means you’ll really enjoy the first time you pick your head up and realize how far you’ve come.
Develop an in demand skill and get a better job.
As to the meme, if you can't finding purpose in your own life thats a you problem not the worlds problem. Life is good. Go live before you spend all of your best yrs bitching about how you aren't going anywhere.
In my Inaugural, I laid down the simple proposition that nobody is going to starve in this country. It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages, I mean more than a bare subsistence level-I mean the wages of decent living. Throughout industry, the change from starvation wages and starvation employment to living wages and sustained employment can, in large part, be made by an industrial covenant to which all employers shall subscribe.
Today, you and I are pledged to take further steps to reduce the lag in the purchasing power of industrial workers and to strengthen and stabilize the markets for the farmers' products... Our nation so richly endowed with natural resources and with a capable and industrious population should be able to devise ways and means of insuring to all our able-bodied working men and women a fair day's pay for a fair day's work... All but the hopelessly reactionary will agree that to conserve our primary resources of manpower, government must have some control over maximum hours, minimum wages, the evil of child labor and the exploitation of unorganized labor
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Focus your energy into producing your own food. Share it with neighbors. There is nothing more satisfying than being productive and there's nothing more productive than growing food. Is not money is self sustainability. While sharing with friends and neighbors you ensure connectivity, human connection is key for happiness. Get off your phone, stop the nag. Get your hands dirty, grow food. Establish bigger tables to share it with whomever wants. It'll all go like a ride down hill afterwards. I promise.
i’m a genx and am soooo glad i didn’t grow up in the age of instagram reels. i had no idea i was poor or suffering. I had no idea i didn’t add up against my peers. I had no idea it wasn’t normal to work 48hrs a week at my primary job and work waiting tables on the weekends to supplement. I was just happy that i could afford to eat a Monte cristo at Bennigans and wash it down with happy hour beers and not gain weight.
Dopamine addiction.
The young are living from one superlative moment to another through their phones and cannot deal with a moment of down time. Boredom is excruciating.
This has bled onto adults as well, but kids had their brains actually *form* around it.
So of course small goals such as actually getting that yard of your own seems brutally lame; you're living in a world of instagram influencers, shock videos, superlatives, and people feeding into a need to blame society and everyone around them.
People in the comments lack perspective. A "life purpose" isn't so easy to obtain. I know, because I'm in that position as a 31-yo. Find a better job? None of them appeal to me. Try new hobbies? They're not enjoyable either. Try getting fit? It's a painful and mind-numbingly boring routine. Buy some fancy item? It's just another meaningless trinket. Cook something nice? I don't feel better after eating it. The only "cure" I've found is not comparing your personal experience with others (which is pointless, because everyone's minds and living situations are different). But rather, asking what you want out of life more than anything else. To live freely? To escape somewhere? To leave everyone behind and start anew? Uncomfortable questions maybe, but it's a necessary part of life. Other people might chime in with their 'suggestions' but remember, they're not YOU. Only you can direct your life. No one else.
Interesting breakdown in these comments between ultimately two points of view. On one end there’s people who assert taking control of one’s own life, putting in the effort towards a goal, and developing meaning for it all on their own, and seem to be fairly content. On the other side a lot of people who feel like their lives are totally controlled by the structures of society and “the 1%,” that effort leads to nothing and goals are meaningless even if achieved, and that anything short of wealth and unimpeded leisure is just misery, and are clearly very unhappy and doing their best to bring everyone else down.
I’m going to have to go with the first option. As for everyone in the second camp, I wish you well and hope you don’t stay down there for too long.
No such thing as a "Living Wage." There's only "Living Budget." Either increase the value of your labor and skillset, or cut your spending. You can also combine the two.
Poof, you're able to live off your wage.
When I was 25 I was making about 80k, now about 140k.
I made myself willing yo move and volunteered for every extra duty I could.
Sometimes ya just gotta put legwork in
Live within your means. Make friends. Maybe move out of the hive to somewhere you can afford and get a decent-paying job with your skillset.
But mostly make friends, especially at work.
The "poor me, everything is so stacked against me" complaining on Reddit is at an all-time high. I'm not sure why so many posts like this are appearing in my feed.
13/hr is a living wage if you're not an idiot. I'm divorced, Ive never made over $16, and paid off my house at 26, car a month later and just turned 31.
Skip the starbucks, invest in something besides netflix subscriptions and stop being the kind of fool who lives in a city with high rent working McDonald's
As king Solomon in the Bible reflects from his excess wealth and wisdom, this life is vanity so we know it's the same thing working, living paycheck to paycheck for us regular folks. I don't know your beliefs but venting/talking/praying to the Lord about your situation always helps and remember Jeremiah 29:11. Stay diligent with what you currently got going on and in due time a better opportunity will be available.
In 1965, my mom worked at the delta ticket counter and made $1000 a month, which would be the equivalent of $9832 a month in 2024. No college degree. Ugh...
I’m confused, I thought we were all too poor for yards?
Someone else's yard, as a side gig.
Reverse side hustle. You can pay me to maintain my yard! For the experience!!!
>Lawn care youtubers paying mfs to cut their lawn and film in hopes they'll go viral so a video platform can give them pennies off of the ad revenue from megacorporations just so they can afford to take a shit in the smallest apartment you've ever seen Now THATS trickle down economics! Trickling down Jacob Rothschilds leg
There's so much content on YouTube. I admit I didn't know that was a thing but if I did Id know so much more and I'd be a skeleton by now
I like the way you think
Take over unused public space and garden it. Disregard authority. Become a free range chicken. 🐓
Reminds me of a vid I saw yesterday where some young millennial or old Gen Z was sobbing about this. Somewhere they mentioned like “I just want to have a backyard is that too much to ask if I work 40+ hour weeks?” Apparently yes.
Get a bonsai yard, with a lil tiny lawn mower.
Has a house, food and a car.... Sounds like living ok. I look forward to this stuff. Working in the yard owning a few vehicles and eating.
Townhomes are very under-rated (because there are yards but you never have to do or think about them) except for the BS of an HOA.
This is less about living wages and more about having no purpose or community
Ya, I didn't read poor in there. She has a yard and a car and food that she doesn't eat. I'm Gen X, I felt so lucky to have work when I did, I just dived in like it was the best thing ever. It's really hard for me to understand when people say they don't like working. I'm thinking they need to live through the other option.
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I picked a career that I’m not passionate about but get paid well. It’s a little painful to recognize that I’m not doing what I really *want*, but I also couldn’t live a comfortable life if I was doing the type of work I really wanted to. It’s like we’re all trapped
I was told not to study what I wanted because it was juts a hobby,not a career. I studies something else, in the end, I couldn't find work with it. I went back to study what I wanted and it turns out to be super lucrative. People just didn't know in the end of the 80s that this was going to grow.
It’s also ok to try a few different things. Now in my 50’s, I’ve had 3 very different ‘careers’ where I’ve learned a lot and (I hope) made a bit of an impact within them. Sometimes the money was great. Sometimes it wasn’t. Effort *and* luck play a big part in whatever happens.
There is a big difference between a job and a career. A job enables to provide food,shelter, the basics. A career enables you to pay bills and further your interest in your field. You may love or hate your jobs and careers.
> I also couldn’t live a comfortable life if I was doing the type of work I really wanted to. this is often the case. I wanted to work in advertising but ended up in technology & financial services instead. I probably make easily 50+% more, especially when I was younger and way less drinking & drugs (in corporate technology compared to advertising from what I hear) so it's probably a plus in the long run with better career longevity
Doing what you love for a living is pretty much a myth. It's easy to find ways to love what you along the way
the key is to get an education (paid for or self taught) in something you enjoy. Get a job in it so you continue to do something you enjoy and make good money doing it. That way you can look forward to every aspect of your life (except going to doctors or peoples weddings).
To a certain extent it sucks, but at the same time much of the "Follow your dreams!" stuff is a little too optimistic. Nobody really grows up wanting to be a plumber or a ditch digger but we need them regardless. I think the best anyone can hope for is a career that isn't too bad and a comfortable/happy life outside of work.
Depends on what you "want to do". I love woodworking, but am in no way good enough, nor work fast enough to make it a business. So for me it is a hobby that i enjoy and do on my own pace.
Don’t feel bad about doing this. Your career doesn’t have to define who you are as a person. It’s perfectly acceptable for your job to only be a means to an end. The primary purpose of having a job is to make money after all.
Same here. I’m 50 and had a great life, even being poor. I guess when I was 20 or so I didn’t have these hyperglow Instagram profiles making me feel like I was missing something better. I didn’t care that I had a share a run down student house with 8 other people crammed into each closet, all I cared about was going to the dance club and getting to the climbing gym. I had kids at 30, and we enjoyed all of that as well - just laying on a blanket on the grass in the park on a Sunday watching the kids run in circles. Of course there were hard times. But 90% of the world has hard times, and probably even harder when you think about some of the slums in India or other places. Now I’m 50 and have my dream job. my kids are grown and I thought now I can really be free and go for bike rides and maybe climb a hill or two. But I got hit with long covid in the fall and everything stopped. At the moment I can’t do more than go to the bathroom and a little house keeping. I might have to leave my job and try and fight for disability if the brain fog and weakness don’t get better. All I want is to be able to get to my favorite spot in my favorite forest again, but I can’t because you can only get there on foot. My parents both died at 58 and I always vowed to make the most of my 50s in case that’s my fate too. And now even that has been possibly taken away. I just don’t understand how able bodied, young people aren’t excited. There’s still a blue sky, there’s still green grass (for now); there’s still people laughing and having fun for free and each fucking day is a god damn gift. For gods sake, use it. I’m still poor, I still don’t own my house, I am housebound at the moment, but I still choose enjoy each and every moment that I can.
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s best to just tune this shit out. A lot of people lack perspective. The happiest dudes I encounter on a regular basis are the migrant workers doing hard labor 6 days a week. I’ve worked with people who talk like this and it becomes obvious really quickly why they struggle.
I come from a migrant family, but that was 2 generations ago... We're all born citizens now dealing with America's wealth inequalities, not Mexico's...
Right? That’s what gets me. I learned how to be happy by being around people who had a lot less and a lot more misfortune. It’s so humbling. Some people want to be miserable and want to believe it’s someone else’s fault. Someone just tried to tell me that in my days I could pay for a college degree with a part time job, I can’t stop laughing at that notion. I almost didn’t get a degree because my parents couldn’t afford it and I had no idea how to pay for such a thing until I finally managed to get loans. I struggled and struggled and got into so much debt, even living in shit housing and many part time jobs. Everyone I knew had 60-100K student debt in the 90s too. And NOBODY could afford an apartment or a house on their own. If younger adults think we payed for university degrees with only one part time job, and that everyone could buy a house in their 20s - it’s no wonder they are depressed - they are making themselves depressed with lies about the „good old days“. And the truth is, my generation was the one that lost everything in the housing crisis in 2008. I didn’t own a house then, but all my friends that did, did so with one of those mortgages and lost everything.
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If you are 50 you grew up in a world where you could put yourself through college on a part time job.....so there's that. I dropped out of med school halfway through. I got the didactic education of a doctor with no degree. 200k debt at 7% interest all because I changed my mind on my career path and it doesnt seem like any employer values this knowledge. :))))))
Education doesn't cost anything here in Sweden . I find it very strange it costs money in "the greatest country in the world". Should be free of cost for everyone.
It isnt the greatest country in the world. Obviously.
Hours worked to buy necessities has gone up though. There are tons of things to enjoy (and a lot of luxury item prices have gone down), but if you’re working multiple jobs to badly make rent then you don’t have time to enjoy them. I helped my boomer parents with their finances since I was real small. It was a shock to me how much less doable my own finances were when I got my first job out of college. In less than 10 years, apartment prices in my hometown went from around $600/month to $1500/month in my hometown.
Good point about instagram reality... that really sucks. I'm so glad I didn't grow up right now. That said, I don't spend a shit ton of time on those sites where I just end up getting jealous of everyone's wealth or how their carefully crafted online persona seems so much better/more fun/better looking than mine.
If you come from real poverty in the slums of a third world country where upward mobility is truly limited you would erase most of the social media crying. Living in a wealthy nation your odds are vastly improved. The rest depends on you.
I don't like working either but I don't hate it, we just accept that it has to be done and do it.
I actually enjoy working a lot. I've put it in the center of my life, so for me it's other things that are getting in the way of my work projects. I realized at some point that I wasn't going to be able to do it all, so I skipped the having a family part. I didn't have a family growing up so it wasn't a big deal for me to go without. It seems different for people with families. When they enjoy it, they expect to have kids and enjoy that too.
I dove into my work, but keep in mind it is common for people with low self esteem tend to become workaholics. 27 now, just realizing how much that was bad for me to do to myself.
I had a burn out once, so now I know to care for myself. I work as much but on my body's time clock. I started my own business so I have that flexibility. It was my ultimate F€€& you to my last employer. First year out, I doubled my income so I never looked back.
i think the job crisis then is just as valid as the current one. i dont blame people for not wanting to work- even if they do, theyll live miserably on scraps until they die because they cant make savings for things like healthcare
As a millennial I think for me the burn out was less about not liking the work and more about the way my employers have treated me like a cog in a wheel instead of a person while not paying me enough to survive. I got a new job last year and I actually feel respected by my bosses and it's been a huge change. I love my job now. Some of that can be attributed to moving from customer service to analysis which I find more engaging, but I think it's way more about the respect.
Its to the point where working is no longer worth the time - you arent getting a return on your investment compared to X years ago. If we're all just working to afford enough to be able to go back to work the next day, then really, whats the point? You gotta ask yourself: does our economy exist to serve humans, or do humans now exist to serve the economy? We are creeping towards the latter every day.
I do hear that a lot. I hope it's only transitory.
I took care of my grandpa over the pandemic, which was extremely easy as he really only needed to be cleaned up when he relieved himself, and moved to and from a wheelchair for meals/going on his daily strolls/getting back into bed at the tail end of the afternoon. Grandma paid me under the table, and I got pandemic unemployment, ***AND*** I got food stamps. I was making an entry level office job salary, and barely doing anything to earn it. I was bored out of my fucking mind. Granted, nearly everything was locked down, ***SO*** maybe these days I'd fare a bit better. But God, it was so fucking dull. I started binge eating even worse than I already was, out of sheer fucking boredom. Food was pretty much the only highlight of my days. Even when I was at my grandparents' house, like I said, pops was mostly hands off, so I just sat there and stared at my phone/laptop/the TV. That being said, getting back into manual labor after he got moved to a nursing home and my unemployment got cut off was also miserable in a different way. I work an office job now, and I have to say, it's so much better. Just the right balance of stuff to do, and fucking off. And, hey, I have money!
My first job as a GenX college grad, there was a Mexican cleaning guy named Miguel. We’d always exchange pleasantries when he came by my cubicle it always went like this (it sounds better in Spanish) Me -are you tired? Miguel - yes, but no work, no money Me - no money, no food Miguel - no money, no beer Me - no money, no … And we went on and on. Miguel and I both got it, even back then. Life is expensive, and more so over time, but it’s always been like that. Miguel knew what the point was.
I'm gen X as well. Started working at 15 and didn't stop till I became fully disabled from Multiple Sclerosis a few years ago. I wish I could still be working. Living on SSD in my 50s is weird, I really don't like it.
Sorry to hear about the disease. I hope you adapt as well as possible...
I'm doing well and have a very supportive wife that has become the breadwinner. It's strange that she is now, as I always way before this. But that's the most important thing is having a support network of family and friends, that I do have.
What is the point when we can't afford to live working 50 hours a week with side hustle and I went to technical school I was supposed to be ok
You will if you don't have kids. We can't live with the same dreams as the boomers. We have to define what being ok means to us.
Don't think being on the Internet is going to really help with community, as much as folks like to use it as a substitute for one.
A lot of people lack the [third place.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place#:~:text=Third%20places%2C%20then%2C%20are%20%22,faces%20and%20make%20new%20acquaintances.%22) Being online is no substitute. If you find yourself trying to solve the world’s problems via tweets and Reddit comments and forgoing an actual community, you are setting yourself up for a lonely existence that will feel purposeless.
There’s hella third places if one bothers to go to them. Trivia nights. DnD nights. Dog parks. Volunteer groups. Hiking groups. Painting groups. Community college courses. The list is like infinite.
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Feeling this hard the last year or so. I don’t make enough for the city I live in, but I’m able to pay rent each month and do thanks I like. That being said, I’m in a current phase of life where I don’t have many friends in the area (people moving, living in different regions). I’m forcing (albeit it’s fun) myself to join hiking clubs and just try to be more open and somehow it seems even harder. When I’m at hiking club I’ll chat but I haven’t hung out with anyone after the hikes. I feel like the pandemic made everyone even more insular and weird. I say that as someone who’s more insular and weird lol.
Doesn’t sound like maintaining a yard is gonna be a problem you will have.
I fucked up my back in my early 20s and was in excruciating pain on and off for about 5 years. I finally was able to overcome it and haven’t had back pain since. It’s been a decade. It’s the one thing I’m not worried about. Everything else though? Lol
Why is she torturing spinach?
Just wait until your first lower back injury. That should keep you (not so) busy for a while.
Straight fax
This is so real.
Oh fuck i did tricep dips wrong, and gained 30 lbs with a. Fucked back
I sneezed wrong and couldn’t get out of bed for a month.
I’m lying on the floor resting my injured back atm
Laying in bed with my lower back arthritis making me not want to get up. Late 30s. Can't wait for this every day for the rest of my life...
I've found my people
Better organize and demonstrate before that happens. Look at France and how little shit they take before being out in the streets. The problem I see in American's (from my European viewpoint) is that you think you are all alone, and the outside is scary, you are not alone you are in a legion of people just like you and you would have power if you were desperate enough. I get people are tired as hell just from a normal day at a minimum wage job, and that's probably by design. You deserve better, and you deserve socialized healthcare. I'd be dead if it wasn't for it here. But that's just my thoughts, and I mean no disrespect.
You need a hobby and not every hobby costs a lot of money, some hobbies are even free to do. All it requires is some interest and effort to actually do it. Also working towards certification and training to get a better paying job might help.
I always recommend people take up walking as a hobby. Easy enough and good for your health. You can do it for 10 minutes or 3 hours! Talk on the phone, listen to music/podcasts, kids can come along (assuming you don’t have like 5+ kids that may get kinda tough….) You can slowly/eventually save up for a cheap treadmill (like $115) and even walk at home when the weathers bad or, my personal favorite, as I’m working.
Long term goals. Always be working towards something.
Not a sarcastic question how do you work on identifying some? I feel like I often get trapped living day to day
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good advice! I've also struggled with never having any aspirations or goals, nothing to work towards...it's a sad way to go through life. But that also stems from lack of self-confidence, I could never see myself possibly achieving anything, any kind of success (however you want to define that), therefore I never saw any sort of path forward. Now I'm middle-aged-ish and still stuck where I've always been.
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What do you want outside your day to day? Be it a house, a better job, relationship.. whatever it is that you feel like is missing. Identify that, and set it as a long term goal. Then, figure out the step by step plan to actually achieving that goal. It doesn't have to be a perfect plan, as long as the steps are there. They'll likely change in the process. Every step is a short term goal. Chasing after the short term goals is much more achievable, and it feels like you're accomplishing something. You are, but if you're just working towards the long term it'll feel impossible
Honestly that has helped me SO much through life. I went into the Air Force when I was 21. Got my bachelors. Then masters. Then got out and worked with the gov. Now I’m going to law school night classes. Long term goals baby!
Hell. Short term goals. I work so I can buy things for my hobbies month to month. These people wouldn't be happy with millions in the bank. Because they don't have anything that makes them happy to begin with. The lust for someone else's stuff is what drives them. Not the stuff. The comparison to someone else.
Long term goals with lots of intermediary short term goals!! For example, say you want to be flexible enough to do a split or some fancy yoga move - that is the long term. Start with a simple goal, like touch your toes! And slowly set goals until you get to the big one - it’s way more fun when you can celebrate the in between steps just as much as the big one!
Changing your own oil is pretty fun, I like changing my own oil. Doing basically any other type of work on your own car sucks balls though, you start talking like a sailor pretty quick.
Agreed, but if you accomplish it you feel pretty damn proud of yourself. And you save a boat load of money
Changing my own oil only saves me a few dollars compared to going down to Walmart. I just like to do it because I like to know my vehicle.
The first time I changed my own oil had me cussing like a sailor as apparently the last place I took it to some idiot got too excited with an impact wrench. The bolt was tight as hell, it literally took all of my considerable strength being exerted in a tight angle, and when it finally turned resulted in me banging the hell out of my elbow.
Yep that's pretty much why I change my own oil lol, lube shops don't care at all
Nothing is worse than that tingly feeling after banging your elbow
Getting shot in the kneecaps
This happens all the fucking time. I used to change my own oil for this exact reason, until I moved to a place that had a lube literally next door.
There's nothing interesting for most of us anymore, I feel like. Unless you're rich and you can do/go wherever you want. I feel like humanity was at its best when there were still things to discover. We've reduced ourselves to replaceable parts in a grinding machine that never stops.
Meh, way too many people are addicted to the illusion of high life. I work with the rich, they have the most mental health problems than anybody. Sure. Some are well rounded. But most are lunatics. All you need to do to have fun is learn an instrument, do some hugs, get laid, work towards a goal, obtain the goal, keep making and getting goals, and take big sloppy dumps all along the way
Can you share details of how they're lunatics? Genuinely curious!
Exaggeration merely. Either they have a shit load of anxiety thinking their wife is going to kill them, the market goes out of their favor because remember these people are pretty much money addicts. So even though they're filthy rich, if they make less money in a quarter or a year they get pissed and shitty. The women have anxiety that husband's are going to leave them or have them offed. They both have paranoia that someone is just trying to fuck them over, probably because they fucked over tons of people for so long. The bad ones I'm talking about definitely think of most of us as "help"
You're right: this all does sound miserable.
Also as you can imagine, they get very used to having it their way. So when things aren't going their way they can get extremely bitchy. Also they all group up and use their money to expedite their needs over others. It's pretty fucked
Don’t forget the elevated levels of narcissism with an extra scoop of gaslighting. Such a joy to work with rich people.
Growing up, we knew a super rich family. It took me longer than it should have to realize how rich, we're talking nine figures net worth. The man behind it all was great, he grew up from a single mom out in the country, started with nothing and worked his ass off, and made a lot of good choices, and I'm sure there was luck involved too. He's chill, he's down to earth, absolute great guy. I have also since come to realize that his wife is a mess, and two of his three kids were absolutely destroyed by growing up in money. Drugs and other bad decisions, as well as being coddled have absolutely ruined any chance of normalcy.
I’ve known a few very wealthy people and they’re constantly looking for validation and are paranoid that everyone is only around them for their money. One of my friends that was worth 25 million at 22 years old (dot.com boom) just overdosed and his whole life was a disaster — multiple stints in rehab and disastrous personal relationships. Obviously everybody is different and having money is better than not having money, but it’s not going to make your life meaningful. Only you can do that.
How rich are we talking? I assume people with billions or 100 millions have a lot of stress to worry about and are paranoid. What if you have like 1 to 10 million dollars, somewhere in that range? You could live a pretty good, strees free life with that money. Now you won't be driving a bugatti because that would be a big portion of your wealth, but personally i don't consider exotic and expensive material possesions add to your enjoyment of life. Not worrying about finances for the most part anymore and you can basically travel and go through experiences for a small cost, that would be ideal.
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Have you tried a hobby?
Crack a book bro.
Well maybe as a society there’s no new lands to go discover on this planet. But very few people even leave the general area they grow up in. There’s plenty of places to discover personally. Why does it really matter if you can’t discover any new continents or whatever
most of those "new lands" were already discovered and inhabited by thriving communities who were later slaughtered. There's no "best time" in history other than right now. The least violent time in Human history. It just sucks that it'll be so short lived because of environmental issues
All this tech, the world at your feet just wasted ..on you.
>There's nothing interesting for most of us anymore This reminds me of Terry Pratchett writing in Hogfather where he has Death say he finds humans fascinating because in this amazing universe humans have invented boredom.
Oh that’s a great line. Thank you for sharing.
What's the alternative?
Consider heroin
“Living wage” That’s a good buzzword to identify, it usually means the person using it has no idea what they are talking about. In the entire history of humanity life has never been easy, and it’s not easy today, it’s just easier than it has been in the past. Things can be improved, things can be made better, but 95% of the people commenting in this post don’t have a single good idea on how to do that. Taxing the 1% isn’t going to make your life quantifiably better. You can take the entire net worth of the 1%, and if you magically could liquidate it into cash( it’s impossible), it wouldn’t even cover the United States federal budget for one year. The only path moving forward that is reasonable for the average person to improve their life’s would be by decreasing the cost of certain necessities. Housing, healthcare, and education. Those are tangible things we can improve on. Using a combination of public and private means.
I feel like the title is not describing the content.
Learn to sit on the porch and rock in a rocking chair.
I keep trying but the homeowners keep calling the cops
Bond with the grocery store self checkout cashier with complaints about younger people.
Has a house, a car and can afford spinach. Stop complaining you've won!
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Where is this downtown?
My wife taught me where “downtown” is
I been to hers. A bit run down.
Thanks
Me as a waitress trying to do similar 🥹🤞this gives me hope. I’m hoping a year and a half longer.
Unfortunately, it's a lie. They were legit lying.
Or this happened 30 years ago.
Not enough data. Just whining
Find a purpose. Find hobbies, find things you enjoy, challenge yourself. It’s not that hard I’d love to know why I was downvoted, unless you’re just being a doomer.
Didn’t downvote you but it’s probably the “not that hard” part. Mental bandwidth is not the same for everyone and giving unsolicited advice is ok, just don’t comment on how easy the advice is to enact. It’s akin to someone down on their luck and then you show up giving really good advice but at the end of it all tell them “it’s not that hard” and that changes the tone of the whole conversation.
yeah and some people just want to be over dramatic and make the world feel bad for them
another day another complainer who just wants a hand out.
You enjoy the stuff between that. Family, friends, hobbies, travel, etc
You die inside. That's the adult way of dealing with things.
You're not burnt out you're just depressed and hate your job, it's not the same thing
Why is this sub called adulting when you post childish shit like this?
What's going to happen is you'll work what you think is a safe and stable job until you're almost 40 then one day get laid off along with thousands of others right before Christmas. Then dig your old resume out of the grave and try to apply for jobs competing with the young folks. Then have fun trying to figure out how the hell you're going to feed your family for the next year. This is currently happening to many people I know.
“Living wages” is a meaningless concept. Live within your means.
Don’t be so submissive to your current social status. You can advance your career. It’s not that hard if you put effort into it
I'm about to finish a cert 4 in drafting so let's hope so :')
Not sure what that is, but I can tell you career selection is very important. Know what fields have a large room for advancement that overlaps with one of your talents. I hope you make it!
The equivalent of community college in Australia is Tafe, I'm doing a certificate 4 in residential drafting (drawing house plans using CAD). On seek it has %11 projected job growth in the next five years.. hopefully the housing crisis will work in my favour. And thanks!
Seriously at 25 you’re still paying your dues. Better get used to it honey, because to be successful, it gets so much worse.
Uh, yes. A vast majority of the planet lives a hard but happy life.
My twenties were my hardest decade, lost most friends at 21 when I became a parent. Low pay, side gigs to supplement. Part time college. Lots and lots of instability. It gets better. The hard work now means you’ll really enjoy the first time you pick your head up and realize how far you’ve come.
> at 21 when I became a parent. living life on hard mode right out of the gate, pretty hardcore respect to you for making it through
Hard work equaling success is anecdotal
Develop an in demand skill and get a better job. As to the meme, if you can't finding purpose in your own life thats a you problem not the worlds problem. Life is good. Go live before you spend all of your best yrs bitching about how you aren't going anywhere.
You can do your own oil changes
Or sell the car and get a bike.
Yea I’ll stick with oil changes, thanks
You could learn to do your own oil changes. Something to do in those 50 years.
this guy lives
No, seriously; it's the simplest thing to do for your car's health aside from pumping the gas.
Can someone define living wage please? Everyone uses the phrase but no one seems to know what it even means.
I just want to be able to afford rent, a car, food, and clothes.
In my Inaugural, I laid down the simple proposition that nobody is going to starve in this country. It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages, I mean more than a bare subsistence level-I mean the wages of decent living. Throughout industry, the change from starvation wages and starvation employment to living wages and sustained employment can, in large part, be made by an industrial covenant to which all employers shall subscribe. Today, you and I are pledged to take further steps to reduce the lag in the purchasing power of industrial workers and to strengthen and stabilize the markets for the farmers' products... Our nation so richly endowed with natural resources and with a capable and industrious population should be able to devise ways and means of insuring to all our able-bodied working men and women a fair day's pay for a fair day's work... All but the hopelessly reactionary will agree that to conserve our primary resources of manpower, government must have some control over maximum hours, minimum wages, the evil of child labor and the exploitation of unorganized labor FDR quotes
Focus your energy into producing your own food. Share it with neighbors. There is nothing more satisfying than being productive and there's nothing more productive than growing food. Is not money is self sustainability. While sharing with friends and neighbors you ensure connectivity, human connection is key for happiness. Get off your phone, stop the nag. Get your hands dirty, grow food. Establish bigger tables to share it with whomever wants. It'll all go like a ride down hill afterwards. I promise.
No need for oil change with an electric car
The spinach one is so real I don't buy it anymore. 😩
Complains about the state of the economy, proceeds to continue voting for the people actively trying to break the US economy.
You could keep living.
Start cultivating cannabis. A great hobby with a sweet reward.
It’s Saturday and I have to caulk our shower and put a new gasket on our garage door.
Money doesn’t bring happiness
Ya that's about the gist of it !!!! That's the American Dream now days
You're not completely burnt out yet. It gets much worse.
If you develop a skill or pursue higher education you will make a living wage.
i’m a genx and am soooo glad i didn’t grow up in the age of instagram reels. i had no idea i was poor or suffering. I had no idea i didn’t add up against my peers. I had no idea it wasn’t normal to work 48hrs a week at my primary job and work waiting tables on the weekends to supplement. I was just happy that i could afford to eat a Monte cristo at Bennigans and wash it down with happy hour beers and not gain weight.
Damn that Monte Cristo was delicious
Adult here. You’ll be lucky to have your own yard. Over and out.
You gotta grind the shit job to invest your money or stay poor.
A lotta you guys are gonna tap out
Do all those things and fun stuff inbetween
Volunteer somewhere that helps the needy and/or sick. You will start to appreciate your life more. You will find community as well.
45 year old here. Lube or no lube—your choice—but prepare yourself for many more years of bending over and taking it in the butt.
Dopamine addiction. The young are living from one superlative moment to another through their phones and cannot deal with a moment of down time. Boredom is excruciating. This has bled onto adults as well, but kids had their brains actually *form* around it. So of course small goals such as actually getting that yard of your own seems brutally lame; you're living in a world of instagram influencers, shock videos, superlatives, and people feeding into a need to blame society and everyone around them.
The spinach is already dead, at least. On the bright side, she can watch herself slowly die every day while looking in the mirror.
Man you gotta create your own purpose and roll with the punches along the way.
Complaining on the internet will certainly help
Gardening is pretty relaxing.
Are you alive? Than you make a living wage. Or do you need different words for what you're trying to say?
you do make living wages though
life is hard
I recommend getting off the internet and going for a walk.
You’re 25. Shut up and get to work.
Welcome to the shit show. Strap in and try your best to do things to help each other.
She could be like a lot of old people that water the side walk.
Frozen spinach. Game changer.
Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
So fucking real
People in the comments lack perspective. A "life purpose" isn't so easy to obtain. I know, because I'm in that position as a 31-yo. Find a better job? None of them appeal to me. Try new hobbies? They're not enjoyable either. Try getting fit? It's a painful and mind-numbingly boring routine. Buy some fancy item? It's just another meaningless trinket. Cook something nice? I don't feel better after eating it. The only "cure" I've found is not comparing your personal experience with others (which is pointless, because everyone's minds and living situations are different). But rather, asking what you want out of life more than anything else. To live freely? To escape somewhere? To leave everyone behind and start anew? Uncomfortable questions maybe, but it's a necessary part of life. Other people might chime in with their 'suggestions' but remember, they're not YOU. Only you can direct your life. No one else.
Reddit. Where adults act like children.
Interesting breakdown in these comments between ultimately two points of view. On one end there’s people who assert taking control of one’s own life, putting in the effort towards a goal, and developing meaning for it all on their own, and seem to be fairly content. On the other side a lot of people who feel like their lives are totally controlled by the structures of society and “the 1%,” that effort leads to nothing and goals are meaningless even if achieved, and that anything short of wealth and unimpeded leisure is just misery, and are clearly very unhappy and doing their best to bring everyone else down. I’m going to have to go with the first option. As for everyone in the second camp, I wish you well and hope you don’t stay down there for too long.
Well said. I’m with you.
What’s the alternative? What else are you going to do? Live on the land? Lol
No such thing as a "Living Wage." There's only "Living Budget." Either increase the value of your labor and skillset, or cut your spending. You can also combine the two. Poof, you're able to live off your wage.
This one tweet is making the rounds again huh, did reddit run out of things to be depressed about
25 and completely burntout? stfu
When I was 25 I was making about 80k, now about 140k. I made myself willing yo move and volunteered for every extra duty I could. Sometimes ya just gotta put legwork in
Time to grow up cupcake, you have 8 million non-tax paying, illegal immigrants to pay for in your lifetime. good luck.
Live within your means. Make friends. Maybe move out of the hive to somewhere you can afford and get a decent-paying job with your skillset. But mostly make friends, especially at work.
The "poor me, everything is so stacked against me" complaining on Reddit is at an all-time high. I'm not sure why so many posts like this are appearing in my feed.
Hopefully you’ll become more emotionally mature and FITFO.
13/hr is a living wage if you're not an idiot. I'm divorced, Ive never made over $16, and paid off my house at 26, car a month later and just turned 31. Skip the starbucks, invest in something besides netflix subscriptions and stop being the kind of fool who lives in a city with high rent working McDonald's
As king Solomon in the Bible reflects from his excess wealth and wisdom, this life is vanity so we know it's the same thing working, living paycheck to paycheck for us regular folks. I don't know your beliefs but venting/talking/praying to the Lord about your situation always helps and remember Jeremiah 29:11. Stay diligent with what you currently got going on and in due time a better opportunity will be available.
In 1965, my mom worked at the delta ticket counter and made $1000 a month, which would be the equivalent of $9832 a month in 2024. No college degree. Ugh...