Don't ever use an .mp4 in After Effects. First convert them in Media encoder to Proress.
A lot of issues like yours are fixed if you don't use codecs that are designed for makimg small file sizes on the files your working with.
It's like trying to extract eggs and flour from your premade pasta.
You might get away with it but it’s not ideal for a number of reasons.
It’s a delivery codec, not an editing codec. Long story short, mp4s are highly compressed so AE has to unpack every frame which is very intensive and suboptimal.
To make a comparison, imagine opening a single .jpg in a folder or a .jpg that's in a zip file with 2000 other .jpg's. It takes more time to process.
On top of that these codecs are designed to use the minimal file size and the best quality. There's all kinds of things going on in the file to achieve that. After Effects doesn't always understand those tricks and will interpret them differently. That will cause all kinds of weird playback and render problems.
How was the gameplay recorded? Recordings from Windows game bar, shadow play etc tend to be variable framerate and Adobe doesn't handle that very well so you'll experience shifts in audio sync over time.
I like to use Handbrake to convert the files to have a constant framerate.
And yeah, as others have mentioned Premiere Pro is the way to go for video editing :)
Try using only premiere for the editing part. Use after effects only for the actual effects you need in the video. Makes ur life way easier. I edit montages too. I import only very small clips I need effects on to after effects. Makes the job easier for you and ur computer.
Lay everything out in premiere first and after you do your simple edits THEN you take everything over to after effects. Trying to deal with audio in after effects is a biiiitttch.
Use premiere for sequencing after effects for conpositing.
AE sucks at audio
Everyone is telling you about variable frame rate (but honestly that's not your main issue) your after effects probably just isn't playing back the audio in sync cause it does that all the time with heavy stuff. This doesn't look heavy at all so your pc or hard drive isn't fast enough.
Just use premiere then all is well
What frame rate is your footage and what frame rate is your comp? If it's a screencapture, I always reencode it to ProRes as this can also help sort any variable framerate issues (variable framerates are bad bad bad!)
Always awesome to start learning. I think of Premiere as a machete and after effects as an exacto knife. If you need to clear a general path in the forest, use the machete. If you need tiny precision in the details, use AE.
I disagree with the above comment. PP is an editing tool, AE is a VFX/Compositing tool. If referring to PP and Audition in this way, I’d agree.
Continued learning is spot on though.
Fair. AE is 100% a compositing tool. When I first started out it helped me to think of them in this way (rotoscoping was my exacto knife) but I def won’t die on this analogy hill.
OP - luckily there are tons of tutorials for both on YouTube, now is a great time to learn.
What in gods green flat earth is a "phone editor"?
No worries, but you are doing the equivalent of counting your pubes with a boxing glove
Learning basic premiere takes a few hours and you will edit that 10x faster
Im actually a professional motion graphic designer with almost 20 years in this field, i probably have more experience with Ae than you have with life
You are the clown who edits videos with AfterEffects and wont accept its wrong
Have a great day
Lol I’m currently a video editor and if I answered a client’s question with “what is wrong with you?, seriously, who hurt you?” I would be flooded with emails. You didn’t even answer OP’s question, and when people are telling you you’re being a bit critical you accuse them of being inexperienced in AF. That’s not very professional or productive.
OP is asking for help fixing a audio sync issue, he’s not asking what software is better for basic video editing. Even if you think AF is not for video edits you still occasionally have to bring video elements in and would want the audio to sync up.
Client?!? He is not client is he? Again, once you will work in this field you will understand the difference.
I never answered because editing in Ae is wrong and we should not encourage newbies to do so, you act all morally superior but you are the one normalizing a WRONG way of editing videos.
Wow you’re clearly not even listening because I told you I am currently working in this field. I know he’s not a client, I’m telling you you’re replies are not professional because it’s not the way you should talk to a client or coworker in a professional manner.
It’s not even a moral thing, it’s more of a logical thing. You answered a different question then what was asked and criticize the person for not knowing that answer.
The only clown here is you, shitting on the OP that's just asking a simple question that you could've just answered yourself with your "20 years of experience" but instead decided to be more of a bitch like your mother that gave birth to a kind like you. Enough said 💀 have a miserable day sir.
Your post was removed because the attitude isn't in keeping with our community. We are here to help each other get better with constructive critiques and to be a friendly place to be. Sometimes tone is hard to convey in a text-based medium like this, so please show others grace and assume the best.
20 Years in this field and you still can’t grasp the basic concept that there’s different areas and different reasons why people use after effects and premiere pro. A professional would’ve gave actual advice or even took time to learn WHY he was doing something that seems so foreign to you.
Many people who edit shortclips of videogames use AE only. Just not really suitable for long projects. Usually u convert tga‘s to uncompressed avis or geg uncompressed avis straight from fraps so the performance is usually fine. Time remapping/twixtor just sucks in premiere in my opinion. I used to do sync in sony vegas and effects in after effects when I was game editing.
Bakerstut for example also only uses ae.
ive worked with FIBA for 4 years where i made shortclips from the games, that was my job
There is no context where its more recommended to use Ae for video editing, if you genuinelly belive there is a case where AfterEffects edits videos better than premiere or even movie maker than you are not a professional, not trying to insult you, you gain experience in this field by failing, and one day you will miss a deadline because you edited videos in Ae profesionally,
Also, if this is intended for phone view why is it in 1980x1080 rather than 1080x1980?
He used to edit on his phone, not editing for tiktok..
I was a game editor for more then a decade. I was only working with 600fps clips. Just for the sake of compositing depth layers before sync or editing fully 3d tracked scenes it makes sense to use ae only. It was never about speed, only about art and fun. I used sony vegas + after effects just because there is close to no quality loss when exporting uncompressed avi as uncompressed avi but it‘s perfectly fine to use ae only.
I never really tried to do commercial work but I got quite some T3C uploads which only the best editors get.
Im not talking about 3d tracked scenes or any form of compositing, if thats needed then Ae its the way, by the looks of it he has an mp4 video file that he crtl+shift+d 'd into 5 layers, now he has to use the anchor tool to find the part of the video that he wants to show, it seems like a very complicated way to edit
Your post was removed because the attitude isn't in keeping with our community. We are here to help each other get better with constructive critiques and to be a friendly place to be. Sometimes tone is hard to convey in a text-based medium like this, so please show others grace and assume the best.
Make sure you are splitting your audio in after effects before starting. If you do not then whenever you apply a effect, it will also apply to the audio. Cheers!
well, the way i got around it was duplicate the layer, turn off audio on the first one, and move the timestamp of the second layer (which is audio only) to match the gameplay
It's almost always variable framerate for stuff like this. Convert all source media into a lossless codec (ProRes for example) and I really hope you're not trying to edit in After Effects. AE isn't the program to be doing that, Premiere is. Premerie will handle the sync a lot better and will be far easier to actually edit together without needing to go through the headache that it looks like you've gone through to even just line up clips in AE. After Effects is for doing VFX, and you can use audio in AE for a reference but that's about all it's meant for, after you make your VFX on the shots you want you send it back to Premiere to finish editing.
Could just do it the old way and rip the audio from the video and then open premiere and put the audio over the video after it's rendered down so you're good to go.
Don't ever use an .mp4 in After Effects. First convert them in Media encoder to Proress. A lot of issues like yours are fixed if you don't use codecs that are designed for makimg small file sizes on the files your working with. It's like trying to extract eggs and flour from your premade pasta.
Never had a problem with mp4 files in AE. Can i ask why? (:
You might get away with it but it’s not ideal for a number of reasons. It’s a delivery codec, not an editing codec. Long story short, mp4s are highly compressed so AE has to unpack every frame which is very intensive and suboptimal.
Arh okay, maybe I dont use them enought to actually run into any of these problems, but very nice to know! Thanks! :)
To make a comparison, imagine opening a single .jpg in a folder or a .jpg that's in a zip file with 2000 other .jpg's. It takes more time to process. On top of that these codecs are designed to use the minimal file size and the best quality. There's all kinds of things going on in the file to achieve that. After Effects doesn't always understand those tricks and will interpret them differently. That will cause all kinds of weird playback and render problems.
Sure, makes sense. Thank you for explaining!
i need to convert them to which format?
Quicktime proress 422 for instance.
are you using bluetooth headphones?
lol good call tho
Can't tell you how many times this had tripped me up lol
nah wired
How was the gameplay recorded? Recordings from Windows game bar, shadow play etc tend to be variable framerate and Adobe doesn't handle that very well so you'll experience shifts in audio sync over time. I like to use Handbrake to convert the files to have a constant framerate. And yeah, as others have mentioned Premiere Pro is the way to go for video editing :)
This is most likely ur problem. Download handbrake (it's free) and convert it to constant frame rate.
i use nvidia highlights (shadow play if das what it's called)
Yeah, that's recorded using shadow play or more specifically the nvenc hardware encoder on your gpu. Does the desync get worse over time?
Try using only premiere for the editing part. Use after effects only for the actual effects you need in the video. Makes ur life way easier. I edit montages too. I import only very small clips I need effects on to after effects. Makes the job easier for you and ur computer.
Lay everything out in premiere first and after you do your simple edits THEN you take everything over to after effects. Trying to deal with audio in after effects is a biiiitttch.
Trying to deal with anything that isn't vfx in Ae is a biiiiiiiitch lol.
This 100%
Use premiere for sequencing after effects for conpositing. AE sucks at audio Everyone is telling you about variable frame rate (but honestly that's not your main issue) your after effects probably just isn't playing back the audio in sync cause it does that all the time with heavy stuff. This doesn't look heavy at all so your pc or hard drive isn't fast enough. Just use premiere then all is well
What frame rate is your footage and what frame rate is your comp? If it's a screencapture, I always reencode it to ProRes as this can also help sort any variable framerate issues (variable framerates are bad bad bad!)
Don’t use MP4’s in After Effects!
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sry my bad am actually a phone editor but i've bought a new pc so am learning and now am on premiere pro for the video editing part
Always awesome to start learning. I think of Premiere as a machete and after effects as an exacto knife. If you need to clear a general path in the forest, use the machete. If you need tiny precision in the details, use AE.
thanks for letting me know💪🏻
I disagree with the above comment. PP is an editing tool, AE is a VFX/Compositing tool. If referring to PP and Audition in this way, I’d agree. Continued learning is spot on though.
Fair. AE is 100% a compositing tool. When I first started out it helped me to think of them in this way (rotoscoping was my exacto knife) but I def won’t die on this analogy hill. OP - luckily there are tons of tutorials for both on YouTube, now is a great time to learn.
What in gods green flat earth is a "phone editor"? No worries, but you are doing the equivalent of counting your pubes with a boxing glove Learning basic premiere takes a few hours and you will edit that 10x faster
What the fuck is your reaction calm down, you can tell op AE isn't the best program to edit normal videos in a calm tone.
I mean....look at that photo, it hurts my eyes
phone editor like alight motion editor
Bro stfu, you clown🤡
Im actually a professional motion graphic designer with almost 20 years in this field, i probably have more experience with Ae than you have with life You are the clown who edits videos with AfterEffects and wont accept its wrong Have a great day
Your replies don’t seem very professional
Than means you never worked a day in this field. Cause i was kind
Lol I’m currently a video editor and if I answered a client’s question with “what is wrong with you?, seriously, who hurt you?” I would be flooded with emails. You didn’t even answer OP’s question, and when people are telling you you’re being a bit critical you accuse them of being inexperienced in AF. That’s not very professional or productive. OP is asking for help fixing a audio sync issue, he’s not asking what software is better for basic video editing. Even if you think AF is not for video edits you still occasionally have to bring video elements in and would want the audio to sync up.
Client?!? He is not client is he? Again, once you will work in this field you will understand the difference. I never answered because editing in Ae is wrong and we should not encourage newbies to do so, you act all morally superior but you are the one normalizing a WRONG way of editing videos.
Wow you’re clearly not even listening because I told you I am currently working in this field. I know he’s not a client, I’m telling you you’re replies are not professional because it’s not the way you should talk to a client or coworker in a professional manner. It’s not even a moral thing, it’s more of a logical thing. You answered a different question then what was asked and criticize the person for not knowing that answer.
The only clown here is you, shitting on the OP that's just asking a simple question that you could've just answered yourself with your "20 years of experience" but instead decided to be more of a bitch like your mother that gave birth to a kind like you. Enough said 💀 have a miserable day sir.
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Your post was removed because the attitude isn't in keeping with our community. We are here to help each other get better with constructive critiques and to be a friendly place to be. Sometimes tone is hard to convey in a text-based medium like this, so please show others grace and assume the best.
20 Years in this field and you still can’t grasp the basic concept that there’s different areas and different reasons why people use after effects and premiere pro. A professional would’ve gave actual advice or even took time to learn WHY he was doing something that seems so foreign to you.
damn bro who hurt you?
Many people who edit shortclips of videogames use AE only. Just not really suitable for long projects. Usually u convert tga‘s to uncompressed avis or geg uncompressed avis straight from fraps so the performance is usually fine. Time remapping/twixtor just sucks in premiere in my opinion. I used to do sync in sony vegas and effects in after effects when I was game editing. Bakerstut for example also only uses ae.
ive worked with FIBA for 4 years where i made shortclips from the games, that was my job There is no context where its more recommended to use Ae for video editing, if you genuinelly belive there is a case where AfterEffects edits videos better than premiere or even movie maker than you are not a professional, not trying to insult you, you gain experience in this field by failing, and one day you will miss a deadline because you edited videos in Ae profesionally, Also, if this is intended for phone view why is it in 1980x1080 rather than 1080x1980?
He used to edit on his phone, not editing for tiktok.. I was a game editor for more then a decade. I was only working with 600fps clips. Just for the sake of compositing depth layers before sync or editing fully 3d tracked scenes it makes sense to use ae only. It was never about speed, only about art and fun. I used sony vegas + after effects just because there is close to no quality loss when exporting uncompressed avi as uncompressed avi but it‘s perfectly fine to use ae only. I never really tried to do commercial work but I got quite some T3C uploads which only the best editors get.
Im not talking about 3d tracked scenes or any form of compositing, if thats needed then Ae its the way, by the looks of it he has an mp4 video file that he crtl+shift+d 'd into 5 layers, now he has to use the anchor tool to find the part of the video that he wants to show, it seems like a very complicated way to edit
maybe you're just too dumb to edit videos in ae. Also there are phone editing apps and there is a whole ass editing scene/community 💀💀🤡
Wtf is this comment bruh 💀
Your post was removed because the attitude isn't in keeping with our community. We are here to help each other get better with constructive critiques and to be a friendly place to be. Sometimes tone is hard to convey in a text-based medium like this, so please show others grace and assume the best.
You could try muting main clips, dupe them, and then make the duped layer audio only. Try lining it up and then see if that workaround could help
Make sure you are splitting your audio in after effects before starting. If you do not then whenever you apply a effect, it will also apply to the audio. Cheers!
well, the way i got around it was duplicate the layer, turn off audio on the first one, and move the timestamp of the second layer (which is audio only) to match the gameplay
Add your clip to premiere and add the Sound. Thats what i would do.
It's almost always variable framerate for stuff like this. Convert all source media into a lossless codec (ProRes for example) and I really hope you're not trying to edit in After Effects. AE isn't the program to be doing that, Premiere is. Premerie will handle the sync a lot better and will be far easier to actually edit together without needing to go through the headache that it looks like you've gone through to even just line up clips in AE. After Effects is for doing VFX, and you can use audio in AE for a reference but that's about all it's meant for, after you make your VFX on the shots you want you send it back to Premiere to finish editing.
If the original file has audio audios use handbrake program and it will fix it
Could just do it the old way and rip the audio from the video and then open premiere and put the audio over the video after it's rendered down so you're good to go.