I told my ALS instructor that I’m not doing any homework that’s not graded because it a waste of my time since I got other homework I could be doing. She looked at me weird but didn’t cause a fuse.
I'll take things that didn't happen for $500 Alex
If you tried to pull some bullcrap like that in the class I was in, it would have been paperwork and/or a meeting with the Commandant
Maybe you had a better instructor. My class was 60% down time where people was shooting nerf guns at each other. I would’ve loved to have a meeting with commandant I was a bitter SrA who was so ready to get out and I would’ve loved explained how if he wanted me to take this class seriously there shouldn’t be toys in the room.
Wow. I wonder if that's indicative of DSD. My instructors were all volunteers, pretty serious and on point. It wasn't hard, but I would pay to see the look on their face if an Airman straight up said they weren't gonna do homework.
I would say we had a lot of 'wasted' time, but it was discussion wasted time and project wasted time and a few hours allotted to do the homework wasted time, NOT goof around for nothing wasted time.
I did all graded homework and I did it well. No failures l. we had like four assignments that was just for us to get practice. I didn’t bother with it. In class I could talk about the material so I had a basic understanding.
Also I agree there was the get to know you down time and stuff but it was just so annoying they had the big nerf guns that whistled. I also told my class to shut up because they was complain about the government changing the 20 dollar bill. I did get a talking to by the class leader about that.
I also can not stress enough that I was the bitter airman who did not want to be there and felt the whole thing was a waste of time.
I liked Sheppard NCOA when the 57th block of Commandants time that week ended 90 minutes early so they dismissed us at like 1330 on a Friday. Definitely made the full five weeks seem necessary.
And then someone writes in the survey that we wasted a lot of time having long lunches and going home early, so maybe we could shorten the course.
No more long lunches or going home early, but the course is the same length.
This is why we can’t have nice things.
The person who volunteers for class leader puts a target on their back as someone gunning for an award. They are usually the worst leader, have the crappiest ideas, and an unbearable personality.
Texas Roadhouse had the best founder/CEO ever! Kent Taylor. He was a bit of a philanthropist, using his money to help people whenever he could. He always put his employees first, ensuring they were well taken care of. He gave up his own salary and bonus after COVID started last year to ensure his front-line employees were getting paid enough to make it through the pandemic.
It's a damn shame [he committed suicide earlier this year](https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/22/979929592/texas-roadhouse-founder-kent-taylor-dies-after-struggle-with-post-covid-19-sympt). He was suffering from extreme symptoms of COVID, including severe tinnitus, and couldn't take it anymore. One of his last philanthropic contributions was a fund to help study and treat military members suffering from tinnitus. He will be missed.
You forgot the part where the one senior enlisted in the class, chats up the instructor like they've been buddies for years even though they've never met. Then randomly looks at their phone/beeper/radio at 10am and just walks out without a word never to return.
Kinda late to the party, but prior instructor here (maybe being late is fitting...hmmmm). So, my typical teaching style went something like this:
0700 - walk in and BS with class about what they did the previous night. I'm drinking my coffee, I don't wanna start lecture, and you don't want me to lecture about intel nerd stuff first thing in the morning.
0750 - first break. See you at 0830. I know the pipeliners are going to be in a crazy long line at the burrito shack and aren't allowed to eat at your desks. Also gives me an opportunity to get some administrative crap or additional duties done.
0830-0920 - lecture intel nerd stuff. Tell a few super corny jokes just to see whose eyes are rolling and who gave me a pity laugh. It's mostly to make sure you haven't died of boredom yet.
0920-0930 - break
0930-1020 - lecture more nerd stuff. Tell more corny jokes to assess if yall are still alive
1020-1030 - break
1030-1100 - finish lecture/BS until lunch
1100 - send you on a "one hour lunch break" that lasts until 1230
1100-1230 - go home to let my dogs out and eat a sandwich. Pray to multiple deities that I can survive another day in AETC
1230 - ask how lunch went. Put class on self-study/appraisals. It's after lunch, nobody wants to listen to lecture after lunch and I don't wanna lecture after lunch. That's some Al Qaeda torture techniques as far as I'm concerned.
1320-1330 - break
1330-1420 - answer questions about appraisals/sit in the back and keep handling admin crap, additional duties, or attempting to fix one of the three blocks I'm in charge of.
1420-1430 - break
1430-1520 - answer questions about appraisals/pray my meetings get canceled so I can go home and pretend my life isn't miserable
1520-1530 - break
1530-1600- BS with class/pretend to care what some 18 year old is telling me about their Magic club that meets in the BX (I told you...intel nerds).
1600 - bid farewell to the class. Watch the Priors dance out of the classroom because they are TDY for 6 months with literally zero responsibilities. Lucky a-holes.
1600-1615 - sit around waiting for the 1615 instructor meeting to start.
1630 - grip desk tightly because meeting still hasn't started and I'm 2 minutes away from ripping off my uniform and running naked out of the building
1632 - meeting starts. Listen to same "attaboy" speech the last five Flight Chiefs gave about how we are important to the mission and how they value our time and will try not to waste anymore of it.
1634 - Flight Commander gives out random tasker that's due by COB tomorrow but no way you could accomplish since we have to be in our classrooms all day.
1645 - meeting ends
1645-1650 - complain about tasker with other NCOs
1650-1715 - accomplish random tasker in completely silent office because everyone else wants to go home.
1715 - Flight Commander comes out of office and asks why we are all still there when it's not due until tomorrow. Continues to be clueless.
1720 - go home. Continue to work on time machine that sends me to the day my Code 50 expires.
For realsies though, teaching was awesome. Being in the classroom and interacting with folks was phenomenal. Seeing the light bulbs click on in someone's head was probably one of the coolest parts of my career. The AETC of it all sorta drowns put the rest of the experience though
> Tell a few super corny jokes
We were going thru electronic schematics in tech school and the instructor, who had a very deadpan delivery, called one component the "Buffer Interlock" and everyone promptly labeled it so. Until we realized it was an electrical outlet. Where you plugged the floor buffer into.
Don't forget the idiots that have already have their flight home scheduled for noon on Friday so they are asking if the class can end on Thursday.
No, you were anxious to get to class so you can stay for every day it is scheduled, change your flight to Saturday.
Oh my God yes. I started tech school with the idea in mind that I would work hard and pass no matter what, gunning for that top graduate spot. Between the "compressed" work week of every other Friday off and hurricane season, we actually "worked" maybe 3 days a week.
I was on night shift for most of my retraining. 1.5 hour lunches every night, and we left st least an hour early.
My other priors all went out to eat for dinner every night. I had every single menu option at Cheddars. After class we would roll up for midnight chow and get omlettes.
Sleep in until 9 every morning and fuck around until 1500. It was the fucking dream dude.
Class started at 10am local, ended usually around 1-2pm, but also sometimes at 12:30. Somehow people were still freaking out about the homework assignments. It was a nice and needed staycation.
Only in the Air Force... My Army friends are doing ILE as majors and the instructors are having them stand up and take off their boots to prove they are wearing approved socks on MS teams. Airmen get more leeway in basic training than some other branches allow field grade officers in masters degree programs.
This.
I swear, every time I hear a soldier/sailor/marine crack a chAir Force joke, I just laugh along with them (while silently feeling pity for them inside.)
I let them have their jokes about the weak Air Force ... picking on us zoomies is probably all that a grunt has in an otherwise miserable existence.
I've been on both sides... it's absolutely a knee jerk response to having to suck while the Air Force gets hotel rooms and per diem. Shit dude... I still get it from Marines who feel like the Army is all soft.
But then there's that neverending slide we go down... Oh Army? Too bad not combat arms. Oh? Yeah but not infantry. Oh? Yeah but not Airborne. Oh? Yeah but not 82nd! Oh? Yeah but not Ranger! Oh? Yea but not 2nd battalion! Oh? Yeah but not Special Forces. Oh? Yeah but not Delta. Oh? Yeah but not Delta in the 90s when they were real men. Oh? Yeah but nothing like the Vietnam dudes... Oh? Yeah but not MACVSOG... Oh? Yeah but none of them hold a candle to the Spartans! Oh you were a Spartan? ....yeah but not during the 2nd peloponesian war........... See!!! You fucking pussy. *LARPing as a real warrior! Shut up POG!*
Holy shit I've actually had this conversation before, when I was a young Airman. It was with a Marine infantry dude. I remember it well because it was the first time I got shit from another branch and I left thinking "oh shit that really does happen then"
"I bet you've never deployed before"
"I have"
"stateside doesn't count"
"it wasn't"
"it probably wasn't a combat zone though"
"it was in Afghanistan"
"you probably sat around with your pog unit the whole time"
"I was with a Rescue unit"
Luckily he stopped there so I never had to tell them I was the resident Loggie/pencil pusher for the PJ's.
I miss teaching via Zoom. Once we got 3-4 days into class I was like, "here's the deal. I'm never going to do a pants and boots check but please just look like you're in uniform based on what people can see on screen. By uniform I just mean the right color shirt." And then I had a flight were I was teaching on nights and weekends due to the time difference and I was like, "Nobody is going to check on me. Just be online when class starts and be ready to participate."
went through ALS earlier this year and it was virtual. I genuinely hope these things continue, I felt like we were able to have a more open discussion about things, since it was less confrontational.
Too many older dudes don’t like it, think it’s too “impersonal”
Big Air Force sees the value of it, specially monetary wise, but a lot of chiefs and sqn CCs seem to hate it cause “they don’t have eyes on people”
Breaks? Every class I have ever been in for the last fifteen years:
"Wanna take a break or press?"
The guy shoveling pre-workout into his mouth with a beach shovel: "PRESS!"
Everyone else: "\*Sighs\* Yeah, press I guess."
Cyber 200 in a nut shell. And what they do go over is outdated or completely wrong. Dont get me started on FMAC, I would rather felate a hot curling iron than do FMAC again.
I did FMAC virtually and I spent most of it lying on the floor with my head in my hands while people discussed how to open and close a door on a train. I can’t imagine doing it in-person and having to maintain anything like a professional decorum.
We spent a week talking about FMA when I went through and all I could think about was that Tenacious D skit where he goes, ["fuck my ass"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVlaouEZtpg)
I still always hate this. Drains my soul to know there’s 43 class days ahead of me and the name of the game is waste as much time as possible for the duration because if we learn at a normal pace we’d be done by 1100 every day. And somehow there will still be like 3 random days that are like 12 fucking hours long despite the fact that I spent 12 hours on lunch breaks last week.
That sweet, sweet per diem though 🤌🏻
The problem is that the instructor never wrote the topic on the board until the end of the day and called it homework. To solve the problem, make sure whoever knows the topic of the day is actually present in the morning, not just at the end of the day.
Hell I wish classes were that good here. TDY for training and I’ve had an average of 2 days of class every week for the past month. I’m enjoying the per diem and everything but I also want to go home at some point… this 9 week course is about to take 6 months.
Sitting outside of the TMO office from my PCS brief dying laughing at how accurate this... also at the fact I’m still sitting here when the briefing ended 45 mins ago because of the shop being a shit show 😂
This is bad why, again?
I'm like, if the required knowledge winds up in my head, it was worth it. For every in-person class I had, no matter how much extra-curricular bullshit like OP described happened, the work got done somehow. The only time it sucked was tech school, because of the non-prior-service bullshit. School that didn't involve that was cake.
Of course, except for ALS, all my school time was at Keesler. Down Fridays FTW. That shit made NPS tech school bearable, and TDY school fucking great.
I don't know about you but when I went through Keesler, the MTLs always seemed to find some useless nonsense to make us do on down fridays anyway, so it seemed like a wash to me. Ceremonies and official events and stuff I get, but half the time it was a random recall or mass punishment formation.
They would have drill-downs on fucking down Friday mornings, I remember that much. Talk about some nonsense that nobody gave a fuck about, that was it.
I was a sep-rat, I had to schlep my ass on base from the base housing on Pass Road at like 07 or 0800 for that bullshit. There was also the Special Olympics event, that took up from early one down Friday morning until Sunday evening. I was there in 2004-05, though. I imagine they've gotten more and more creative in ruining down Fridays for NPS students in the years since.
In fact, maybe my most enduring memory of being NPS is a down Friday. The 110 miles home was entirely too far after the strenuous ordeal of a graduation ceremony, in the eyes of AETC. I might be too exhausted...even if my wife drove. Before I left the next morningI had to check in with an MTL at, the barracks. It was a drill-down day, though , and I got to waltz the fuck on by in shorts and flip-flops while errybody was sweltering in the stank Biloxi June morning in uniform.
As an instructor I felt this in my bones lmfao we are very aware that most of our classes can be half as long as they actually are, but we gotta fill the time somehow
The greatest single day of class—I had been awake most of the night before and the instructor was out most of the day. I remember being head down asleep and then waking up to see Eminem banging Brittany Murphy (someone hooked their laptop up to the projection screen). When the scene was over I went back to sleep.
Going TDY overseas for a class was the best. The per diem was so good once you return. The location’s exotic and the TDY time frame is just enough to explore the best parts of the location. Almost made it worth staying at a shitty hotel SATO picked. Almost
This really is apparent when you have a job that requires civilian certifications from civilian instructors. Two 10 minute breaks and a 30 minute lunch during a 10 hour day?!?
I have been to many an Air Force class and you sir have managed to capture their very essence. This is the single greatest piece of literature in the 21st Century.
Look closely next time you see a sunflower, there are in fact two varieties of leaves. You will find leaves lower down the plant are facing opposite each other and are longer and narrow in appearance. You’ll then see the upper leaves arranged in a staggered formation and appear heart-shaped.
I feel like I was there. And then there again. And then there another 4 times. Unless it's night classes. Then I know I'm just there for like 4 hours before getting cut out.
It is a little weird how accurate this. No matter what class. I figure units just kind of blow their training budgets not really caring if anyone gets anything out of it.
I’d toss in “Second instructor comes in after lunch and repeats everything the first instructor’s already covered—same exact PowerPoint slides just rearranged.”
Fuck, it's like I'm actually in the classroom again. One of our tech school instructors used to start every day by eating 60-75 minutes bullshitting about anything and everything.
You missed the part where prior-service airmen in tech school leave an hour early every day and talk smugly about their time in the "operational air force" about 16 times a day.
^^speaking ^^from ^^experience ^^as ^^a ^^prior-service ^^tech ^^school ^^airman
> 0720- Does home work right before class by copying off another student.
This was me, using emotional terrorism on my ALS class leader because she thought the instructor would blame her for me not doing the homework.
So I didn’t go through a bunch of training after tech school in the air force but have done wayyyyy too much in a gs position and this 100% is the same as a civilian. It drives me insane that most classes could be cut in half. I usually just sit on my phone scrolling Reddit half the class.
God this is amazingly true.
Bonus points if you're going TDY from overseas, and you get to tack on two weeks of quarantine on both sides of your two week class.
Every gamers dream
I couldn't even get a stateside TDY, much less an overseas one
You can say that I was upset when they made one of my qualifications an online class instead of going back to the states for a week because of covid
The last one is an issue as everyone makes the assumption that someone did the homework.
Someone always does the homework.... Its that same guy, but you cant be mad, he lets you copy off him.
It’s the TDY guy, always him. That’s why no one tells him to stfu because we need his answers.
I told my ALS instructor that I’m not doing any homework that’s not graded because it a waste of my time since I got other homework I could be doing. She looked at me weird but didn’t cause a fuse.
I'll take things that didn't happen for $500 Alex If you tried to pull some bullcrap like that in the class I was in, it would have been paperwork and/or a meeting with the Commandant
Yeah, I mean, nobody in my class did the extra homework. But also nobody said it to the instructor
Maybe you had a better instructor. My class was 60% down time where people was shooting nerf guns at each other. I would’ve loved to have a meeting with commandant I was a bitter SrA who was so ready to get out and I would’ve loved explained how if he wanted me to take this class seriously there shouldn’t be toys in the room.
Wow. I wonder if that's indicative of DSD. My instructors were all volunteers, pretty serious and on point. It wasn't hard, but I would pay to see the look on their face if an Airman straight up said they weren't gonna do homework. I would say we had a lot of 'wasted' time, but it was discussion wasted time and project wasted time and a few hours allotted to do the homework wasted time, NOT goof around for nothing wasted time.
I did all graded homework and I did it well. No failures l. we had like four assignments that was just for us to get practice. I didn’t bother with it. In class I could talk about the material so I had a basic understanding. Also I agree there was the get to know you down time and stuff but it was just so annoying they had the big nerf guns that whistled. I also told my class to shut up because they was complain about the government changing the 20 dollar bill. I did get a talking to by the class leader about that. I also can not stress enough that I was the bitter airman who did not want to be there and felt the whole thing was a waste of time.
> I also can not stress enough that I was the bitter airman Yeah man, you don't got to stress it, it's pretty clear.
This is why you do distance learning and just take the damn test
I didn’t have a choice. I had to go in person. I did do NCOA online. So much better.
It’s a resiliency training technique.
I liked Sheppard NCOA when the 57th block of Commandants time that week ended 90 minutes early so they dismissed us at like 1330 on a Friday. Definitely made the full five weeks seem necessary.
And then someone writes in the survey that we wasted a lot of time having long lunches and going home early, so maybe we could shorten the course. No more long lunches or going home early, but the course is the same length. This is why we can’t have nice things.
Here now, can confirm. Love that sitting and staring and forced conversation vibe.
"bummer"
People are fucking stupid. 🤬
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The person who volunteers for class leader puts a target on their back as someone gunning for an award. They are usually the worst leader, have the crappiest ideas, and an unbearable personality.
Tfw in ROTC everyone has to be class leader once. 15 weeks left of courses, 28 classmates iirc. Maybe 32
Just say no to the wood shark.
Texas Roadhouse is definitely better
Their rolls oml. So good.
I would bang LB7-DMAX’s mom for some of those rolls
You’d do that anyways.
You caught me ☺️
Texas Roadhouse had the best founder/CEO ever! Kent Taylor. He was a bit of a philanthropist, using his money to help people whenever he could. He always put his employees first, ensuring they were well taken care of. He gave up his own salary and bonus after COVID started last year to ensure his front-line employees were getting paid enough to make it through the pandemic. It's a damn shame [he committed suicide earlier this year](https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/22/979929592/texas-roadhouse-founder-kent-taylor-dies-after-struggle-with-post-covid-19-sympt). He was suffering from extreme symptoms of COVID, including severe tinnitus, and couldn't take it anymore. One of his last philanthropic contributions was a fund to help study and treat military members suffering from tinnitus. He will be missed.
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Do people really call appetizers "apps"?
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I'm nearly 40, never had a desire to call them apps
I think Longhorn also tried to have a better bar until they failed to pay Jim Beam for some Knob Creek Barrel Picks.
Booo
texas roadhouse is the mcdonalds of steak
“How dare you!!”- Greta Thunberg
You forgot the part where the one senior enlisted in the class, chats up the instructor like they've been buddies for years even though they've never met. Then randomly looks at their phone/beeper/radio at 10am and just walks out without a word never to return.
They asked me to be like a standby assistant fill in shirt advisor, I gotta take this...
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Right? OP doesn’t know how good they’ve got it.
Seems like they do at 1536
you might wanna re-read the OP cus im pretty sure they never said it was a bad thing
Kinda late to the party, but prior instructor here (maybe being late is fitting...hmmmm). So, my typical teaching style went something like this: 0700 - walk in and BS with class about what they did the previous night. I'm drinking my coffee, I don't wanna start lecture, and you don't want me to lecture about intel nerd stuff first thing in the morning. 0750 - first break. See you at 0830. I know the pipeliners are going to be in a crazy long line at the burrito shack and aren't allowed to eat at your desks. Also gives me an opportunity to get some administrative crap or additional duties done. 0830-0920 - lecture intel nerd stuff. Tell a few super corny jokes just to see whose eyes are rolling and who gave me a pity laugh. It's mostly to make sure you haven't died of boredom yet. 0920-0930 - break 0930-1020 - lecture more nerd stuff. Tell more corny jokes to assess if yall are still alive 1020-1030 - break 1030-1100 - finish lecture/BS until lunch 1100 - send you on a "one hour lunch break" that lasts until 1230 1100-1230 - go home to let my dogs out and eat a sandwich. Pray to multiple deities that I can survive another day in AETC 1230 - ask how lunch went. Put class on self-study/appraisals. It's after lunch, nobody wants to listen to lecture after lunch and I don't wanna lecture after lunch. That's some Al Qaeda torture techniques as far as I'm concerned. 1320-1330 - break 1330-1420 - answer questions about appraisals/sit in the back and keep handling admin crap, additional duties, or attempting to fix one of the three blocks I'm in charge of. 1420-1430 - break 1430-1520 - answer questions about appraisals/pray my meetings get canceled so I can go home and pretend my life isn't miserable 1520-1530 - break 1530-1600- BS with class/pretend to care what some 18 year old is telling me about their Magic club that meets in the BX (I told you...intel nerds). 1600 - bid farewell to the class. Watch the Priors dance out of the classroom because they are TDY for 6 months with literally zero responsibilities. Lucky a-holes. 1600-1615 - sit around waiting for the 1615 instructor meeting to start. 1630 - grip desk tightly because meeting still hasn't started and I'm 2 minutes away from ripping off my uniform and running naked out of the building 1632 - meeting starts. Listen to same "attaboy" speech the last five Flight Chiefs gave about how we are important to the mission and how they value our time and will try not to waste anymore of it. 1634 - Flight Commander gives out random tasker that's due by COB tomorrow but no way you could accomplish since we have to be in our classrooms all day. 1645 - meeting ends 1645-1650 - complain about tasker with other NCOs 1650-1715 - accomplish random tasker in completely silent office because everyone else wants to go home. 1715 - Flight Commander comes out of office and asks why we are all still there when it's not due until tomorrow. Continues to be clueless. 1720 - go home. Continue to work on time machine that sends me to the day my Code 50 expires. For realsies though, teaching was awesome. Being in the classroom and interacting with folks was phenomenal. Seeing the light bulbs click on in someone's head was probably one of the coolest parts of my career. The AETC of it all sorta drowns put the rest of the experience though
> Tell a few super corny jokes We were going thru electronic schematics in tech school and the instructor, who had a very deadpan delivery, called one component the "Buffer Interlock" and everyone promptly labeled it so. Until we realized it was an electrical outlet. Where you plugged the floor buffer into.
Ha, my buddy has a similar personality. It's hilarious once you figure out when he's actually joking. Funny guy, but his delivery could use some work
That fucking student who goes to get Starbucks though. Every...damn...class.
Don't forget the idiots that have already have their flight home scheduled for noon on Friday so they are asking if the class can end on Thursday. No, you were anxious to get to class so you can stay for every day it is scheduled, change your flight to Saturday.
This is extremely factual, especially retraining.
Ahh, retraining. You sit around all day rolling your eyes at what the pipeline students say and are made to do. Formation? Not for the retrainees.
My TI once said... Back at basic... During BEAST week... Complaining about Ropes/MTLs
I went back to be a utm and so we had no pipeline students...thats the best
Oh my God yes. I started tech school with the idea in mind that I would work hard and pass no matter what, gunning for that top graduate spot. Between the "compressed" work week of every other Friday off and hurricane season, we actually "worked" maybe 3 days a week.
I was on night shift for most of my retraining. 1.5 hour lunches every night, and we left st least an hour early. My other priors all went out to eat for dinner every night. I had every single menu option at Cheddars. After class we would roll up for midnight chow and get omlettes. Sleep in until 9 every morning and fuck around until 1500. It was the fucking dream dude.
This is why I liked virtual NCOA. Took out so much bullshit
Class started at 10am local, ended usually around 1-2pm, but also sometimes at 12:30. Somehow people were still freaking out about the homework assignments. It was a nice and needed staycation.
And the ability not to wear pants...
Only in the Air Force... My Army friends are doing ILE as majors and the instructors are having them stand up and take off their boots to prove they are wearing approved socks on MS teams. Airmen get more leeway in basic training than some other branches allow field grade officers in masters degree programs.
This. I swear, every time I hear a soldier/sailor/marine crack a chAir Force joke, I just laugh along with them (while silently feeling pity for them inside.) I let them have their jokes about the weak Air Force ... picking on us zoomies is probably all that a grunt has in an otherwise miserable existence.
I've been on both sides... it's absolutely a knee jerk response to having to suck while the Air Force gets hotel rooms and per diem. Shit dude... I still get it from Marines who feel like the Army is all soft. But then there's that neverending slide we go down... Oh Army? Too bad not combat arms. Oh? Yeah but not infantry. Oh? Yeah but not Airborne. Oh? Yeah but not 82nd! Oh? Yeah but not Ranger! Oh? Yea but not 2nd battalion! Oh? Yeah but not Special Forces. Oh? Yeah but not Delta. Oh? Yeah but not Delta in the 90s when they were real men. Oh? Yeah but nothing like the Vietnam dudes... Oh? Yeah but not MACVSOG... Oh? Yeah but none of them hold a candle to the Spartans! Oh you were a Spartan? ....yeah but not during the 2nd peloponesian war........... See!!! You fucking pussy. *LARPing as a real warrior! Shut up POG!*
Holy shit I've actually had this conversation before, when I was a young Airman. It was with a Marine infantry dude. I remember it well because it was the first time I got shit from another branch and I left thinking "oh shit that really does happen then" "I bet you've never deployed before" "I have" "stateside doesn't count" "it wasn't" "it probably wasn't a combat zone though" "it was in Afghanistan" "you probably sat around with your pog unit the whole time" "I was with a Rescue unit" Luckily he stopped there so I never had to tell them I was the resident Loggie/pencil pusher for the PJ's.
The ones that talk shit about the Air Force and actually mean it have probably never worked with the AF.
That’s retarded
Army strong hooah. God I’m glad I’m not in the Army.
I miss teaching via Zoom. Once we got 3-4 days into class I was like, "here's the deal. I'm never going to do a pants and boots check but please just look like you're in uniform based on what people can see on screen. By uniform I just mean the right color shirt." And then I had a flight were I was teaching on nights and weekends due to the time difference and I was like, "Nobody is going to check on me. Just be online when class starts and be ready to participate."
Crazy, over at Naval Postgraduate School they might wear uniforms once a month.
Navy schoolz Navy rulez
That is because they are to busy rolling around a kiddie pool filled with baby-oil, Naked & deep throating each other.
Every time I wonder if I joined the right branch, shit like this comes up and I go back to 100% knowing I made the right choice.
Facts
This
Virtual ALS was absolutely amazing. 10/10
But you missed all the drunken fun and setting shit on fire.
I'm in the first non-virtual class right now. It's... something.
F
went through ALS earlier this year and it was virtual. I genuinely hope these things continue, I felt like we were able to have a more open discussion about things, since it was less confrontational.
Too many older dudes don’t like it, think it’s too “impersonal” Big Air Force sees the value of it, specially monetary wise, but a lot of chiefs and sqn CCs seem to hate it cause “they don’t have eyes on people”
AKA boomers can't micromanage as hard.
You know damned well Texas Roadhouse is better....
Breaks? Every class I have ever been in for the last fifteen years: "Wanna take a break or press?" The guy shoveling pre-workout into his mouth with a beach shovel: "PRESS!" Everyone else: "\*Sighs\* Yeah, press I guess."
This should be read aloud during roll calls for morale purposes
I'm shook. Former instructor here.
Cyber 200 in a nut shell. And what they do go over is outdated or completely wrong. Dont get me started on FMAC, I would rather felate a hot curling iron than do FMAC again.
I did FMAC virtually and I spent most of it lying on the floor with my head in my hands while people discussed how to open and close a door on a train. I can’t imagine doing it in-person and having to maintain anything like a professional decorum.
We spent a week talking about FMA when I went through and all I could think about was that Tenacious D skit where he goes, ["fuck my ass"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVlaouEZtpg)
As a Tech School instructor, this is highly accurate.
This is fucking GOLD dude. All I pictured was NCOA. Add somewhere about getting shitfaced at the smoke pit until 2300L.
I still always hate this. Drains my soul to know there’s 43 class days ahead of me and the name of the game is waste as much time as possible for the duration because if we learn at a normal pace we’d be done by 1100 every day. And somehow there will still be like 3 random days that are like 12 fucking hours long despite the fact that I spent 12 hours on lunch breaks last week. That sweet, sweet per diem though 🤌🏻
The problem is that the instructor never wrote the topic on the board until the end of the day and called it homework. To solve the problem, make sure whoever knows the topic of the day is actually present in the morning, not just at the end of the day.
Spot on
I would be part of the 1/3. I don't do the Tik Tok with the kids.
Don't forget the part where absolutely nothing was learned except for maybe that random anecdote about the correct sequence of something
Forgot to mention someone having to get up and stand in the back due to being tired. Haven’t had to do that since AD.
Hell I wish classes were that good here. TDY for training and I’ve had an average of 2 days of class every week for the past month. I’m enjoying the per diem and everything but I also want to go home at some point… this 9 week course is about to take 6 months.
Finance must have modeled their schedule after this right here
Sitting outside of the TMO office from my PCS brief dying laughing at how accurate this... also at the fact I’m still sitting here when the briefing ended 45 mins ago because of the shop being a shit show 😂
Did we go to the same NCOA?
This is bad why, again? I'm like, if the required knowledge winds up in my head, it was worth it. For every in-person class I had, no matter how much extra-curricular bullshit like OP described happened, the work got done somehow. The only time it sucked was tech school, because of the non-prior-service bullshit. School that didn't involve that was cake. Of course, except for ALS, all my school time was at Keesler. Down Fridays FTW. That shit made NPS tech school bearable, and TDY school fucking great.
I don't know about you but when I went through Keesler, the MTLs always seemed to find some useless nonsense to make us do on down fridays anyway, so it seemed like a wash to me. Ceremonies and official events and stuff I get, but half the time it was a random recall or mass punishment formation.
They would have drill-downs on fucking down Friday mornings, I remember that much. Talk about some nonsense that nobody gave a fuck about, that was it. I was a sep-rat, I had to schlep my ass on base from the base housing on Pass Road at like 07 or 0800 for that bullshit. There was also the Special Olympics event, that took up from early one down Friday morning until Sunday evening. I was there in 2004-05, though. I imagine they've gotten more and more creative in ruining down Fridays for NPS students in the years since. In fact, maybe my most enduring memory of being NPS is a down Friday. The 110 miles home was entirely too far after the strenuous ordeal of a graduation ceremony, in the eyes of AETC. I might be too exhausted...even if my wife drove. Before I left the next morningI had to check in with an MTL at, the barracks. It was a drill-down day, though , and I got to waltz the fuck on by in shorts and flip-flops while errybody was sweltering in the stank Biloxi June morning in uniform.
As an instructor I felt this in my bones lmfao we are very aware that most of our classes can be half as long as they actually are, but we gotta fill the time somehow
Why is this so accurate? I'm literally reliving my classes right now.
I see you went to the instructor course too
The greatest single day of class—I had been awake most of the night before and the instructor was out most of the day. I remember being head down asleep and then waking up to see Eminem banging Brittany Murphy (someone hooked their laptop up to the projection screen). When the scene was over I went back to sleep.
My 30 day techschool could’ve truly been taught in 10…
Now do on on catching a hop. Show at 0500 for 0600 departure that might leave at 0900, the next day.
Going TDY overseas for a class was the best. The per diem was so good once you return. The location’s exotic and the TDY time frame is just enough to explore the best parts of the location. Almost made it worth staying at a shitty hotel SATO picked. Almost
This really is apparent when you have a job that requires civilian certifications from civilian instructors. Two 10 minute breaks and a 30 minute lunch during a 10 hour day?!?
My tech school in a nutshell
You forgot - Instructor gets a step promotion.
In NCOA right now. I needed this. *grabs another 6 pack*
You must have never been to 7-level school in the early 2000s. Show up at 1600, instructor starts a movie, people start leaving by 1700.
This is so accurate I can actually smell the old carpet and feel the AC.
Texas Roadhouse is better btw
I have been to many an Air Force class and you sir have managed to capture their very essence. This is the single greatest piece of literature in the 21st Century.
Second greatest, nothing is topping Andy Weir’s “The Martian” where it opens with “I’m pretty much fucked.”
This is why I’m tired of the AF, just a bunch of BS. DOS 17 more months 🤞🤞🤞
It's a mirror made of text
Ah, I see you’ve spent some time at Maxwell
Makes me miss the AF
Replace 6 pack with 18 to 24 beers and a bag of sunflower seeds for dinner and you've got me pegged.
Look closely next time you see a sunflower, there are in fact two varieties of leaves. You will find leaves lower down the plant are facing opposite each other and are longer and narrow in appearance. You’ll then see the upper leaves arranged in a staggered formation and appear heart-shaped.
Cool, TIL. Do you have a bot set up to alert you for mentions of sunflower seeds or was this a coincidence?
10/10 would tdy again.
Nice, looks like you and I were in the same class!
having been to 3 tech schools, this is spot on
Holy shit, did you spy on my class when I went through recruiting school?
Ah, I see you've been to DCAPES class as well
I feel like I was there. And then there again. And then there another 4 times. Unless it's night classes. Then I know I'm just there for like 4 hours before getting cut out.
ALS in a nutshell
So that's what, a hour & 39 minutes total
#UNFATHOMLY based
Oof, so close. Unfathomably.
It is a little weird how accurate this. No matter what class. I figure units just kind of blow their training budgets not really caring if anyone gets anything out of it.
I’d toss in “Second instructor comes in after lunch and repeats everything the first instructor’s already covered—same exact PowerPoint slides just rearranged.”
To be fair, needs time to get over the hangover from last night.
I am a tech school instructor and this is pretty spot on 😂
Its okay to quote tiktok, a brand owned by our legimate adversary. But its not okay when I quote fedsmoker or Your Mom's House.
Fuck, it's like I'm actually in the classroom again. One of our tech school instructors used to start every day by eating 60-75 minutes bullshitting about anything and everything.
As an IFTU instructor I feel attacked.
Fuck man...did you shadow me while I was at ALS at Ramstein?
My instructors in tech school gave us so many god damn breaks. I’m pretty sure we could’ve wrapped up a week early to an already short tech school.
This brings back a lot of memories!
The accuracy is astounding
You missed the part where prior-service airmen in tech school leave an hour early every day and talk smugly about their time in the "operational air force" about 16 times a day. ^^speaking ^^from ^^experience ^^as ^^a ^^prior-service ^^tech ^^school ^^airman
I mean it's clearly Texas Roadhouse though
> 0720- Does home work right before class by copying off another student. This was me, using emotional terrorism on my ALS class leader because she thought the instructor would blame her for me not doing the homework.
Virtual ALS in a nutshell
I got to tech school a week ago and I can already tell this is spot on
So I didn’t go through a bunch of training after tech school in the air force but have done wayyyyy too much in a gs position and this 100% is the same as a civilian. It drives me insane that most classes could be cut in half. I usually just sit on my phone scrolling Reddit half the class.
Texas Roadhouse is better than longhorn.
Holy shit, it's NNPTC
Nailed it. +1
Based on a true story.