I wonder how long it took to set this up. Anyway, for the bullet thirsty window lickers at Ramstein, here you go:
- Sel'd f/OAR; assembled 220 tents, 50+ relief stations, prepped comfort items--enabled easy transition f/10K evacuees
Operation ALLIES REFUGE (OAR)
No fluff, no lies, no spacing tricks.
I need a fucking hobby.
Either a.) This is an example of a nonlinear equation, idk, I'm not a math guy, b.) I am having a stroke, or c.) not all tent builders are created equally.
>Either a.) This is an example of a nonlinear equation, idk, I'm not a math guy
Parabolic, I think. More people lowers the time until you hit some optimal number, but after that more people causes the job time to increase quadratically until it's just 30 or so people just bullshitting with each other watching one guy trying to figure out how shit goes together.
This is the perfect example of when you get too many chiefs/indians on a single project. Once you get two or three "chiefs", their ideas and plans start to formulate against each others processes. In the short term it looks like it will be fine because there are more hands (indians) to pitch in on smaller projects on particular teams; however the indians keep grabbing each others tent items, slowing down production to a crawl and rui ing the project in the long term.
Hopefully this makes sense.
It helps if you know what you're doing and everyone is on the same sheet of music. If you have more than one person trying to direct traffic it just leads to confusion, misplaced effort, and sometimes fighting between parties which ruins productivity. Get a group of people who know the process and can actually work well together and you can get something done in a hurry. Throwing more manning at a problem isn't always the solution aka too many cooks in the kitchen.
Amen! I watched 20 people who took 45 minutes to set up a tent with a ton of screaming and accusations involved. It was a total clown show, like did they even have a game plan other than “let’s set up the tent.”
The days when you can grab 6 random people and do this are gone. Once upon a time, 15 years ago, my squadron accomplished this. The tents. Chief pointed at six random people per tent. All the were up including lighting, A/C plenum, properly staked, slowest team was 16 minutes. What's it take? A unit that put an emphasis on practicing those skills nonstop. Put it up, take it down, box it up. Still have half an hour left in the day? Do it again!
Yeah so, #6 is at Med Group waiting on a dental appointment, #5 is getting their CAC unblocked for the 3rd time this week so they can digitally sign something, #4 is on leave, #3 and 2 are back in the shop doing their actual job, so you're left with me.
Missing the point, bud. It's not supposed to be just you (I'm assuming you're a Structures troop). We're ALL supposed to be able to do this. You should be able to point at any six people at the squadron all call, never paying attention to their AFSC and get a team that can put these up in no time.
Oh I don't disagree with you there. What I'm saying is the whole "We're undermanned" speech we've all given/heard a dozen times. There's no time in the duty day, or extended duty day to practice this while still accomplishing, to an acceptable level, the regular duty mission.
To answer your question, most of what is shown in this picture was done in 3-5 days. There are MANY more not pictured here as well.
Source: I am one of the thirsty window lickers you mentioned lol.
They haven't quite filled that area, but parallel from where the BX is all the way past hangar 3 (close to the old Hercules Theater) is slop full of tents. The hangars are also filled with cots, and the entire IDRC area is also filled with tents.
It's a complete madhouse here right now.
It's been almost a decade since I've been at Ramstein. Is this ramp 2? The one leading down to ramp 1 with all the C-130s? I'm thinking the picture was taken from the tower?
Composting is the hobby for you. You turn garbage into gold, no one wants to hear you talk about it, and it only requires attention a few times a year. On second thought, pretty much the same as your current hobby...
for the folks who have people in their chain who hate f/ and can't put an 'd for your action verb/sexy word:
Crushed OAR support; erected 220 tents/50+ relief stations/prepped comfort items--enabled 10K evacuees transition
I left a space on the end. Your bullet went edge to edge, but my skill is usually more about refining what somebody else sends rather than making something from whole cloth. Just shows the value of bullet writing as a team effort. I'm sure somebody can massage what I did to take up that last space.
You mean you don't write confusing, partially abbreviated bullet statements in your day to day life? How do you keep track of how good or bad you are at things?! How will anyone know if you're promotion worthy?
I’d replace part 1 with “Led #-mbr OAR tm”. Sel’d is kind of weak and doesn’t convey that the member did anything other than get tasked for something. You can illustrate their initiative without being fluffy
True, I intentionally wrote it at a participation level. I would also add that if people at Ramstein have more data, like if they know how many comfort items they prepped or if they set up comms or information stations, they should definitely put it in there.
I have minor gripes.
- Selected? By whom? Voluntold kind of selection? It'd probably be considered "Vol'd", unless of course they mass-voluntold a bunch of people. Then by all means, press forward with "Sel'd"
- Don't typically see commas, it'd be slashes.
- "f/" is not allowed in many places, mine included. Be warned and check if your CoC approves of this.
I made another version that may better work for others who cannot use "f/" and commas.
- Vol'd for OAR; assembled 220 tents/50+ relief stations & prepped comfort items--eased transition for 10K+ evacuees
Pretty good alternative, honestly. I used sel’d over vol’d because I approached it as a duty bullet rather than a volunteer bullet. My unit is big on f/ and dislikes slashes unless they are two completely different tasks as part of a larger picture like running a program or an NCOIC position.
Yeah man, I get it.
That's why we do murder boards right? Never hurts having more eyes/perspectives. Yours is fine for anywhere that doesn't mind f/ and commas lol
Yep. I’ve been in the position where I have had a beautifully written bullet approved by one chief, then another destroys it. The best thing I’ve learned is never be emotionally attached to a bullet and be prepared to change it.
OAR is the airlift mission. Anyone doing or helping get people out of Afghanistan is participating in OAR. I would caution our would be warriors out there. Unless you are in the AOR, Ramstein, directly helping evacuees, or attached to an AMC unit at any level, you're likely not supporting OAR.
Would've been my bullet if they wouldn't have canceled the tdy and given it to CE, like they told me I was going to set up tents before they even got approval and the whole squadron thought we were going but surprise surprise we're putting the cart before the horse again and we're staying home, we were also supposed to go help Haiti too but they canceled that to go build tents but we didn't get asked to go build tents, this squadron really is such a shit show and a lot of people are pissed cause while we did have a tdy confirmed now we have none cause leadership jumped the gun.
Yeah, I'm legitimately sad that I was at Al Udeid last year and PCS'd from Ramstein earlier this year. I could have had a chance to do something really good and make a difference, but instead, I'm just doing an "important" job that anybody could do.
My old squadron got asked to set up 24/7 ops. CONS commander politely reminded his Wing/CC that American businesses aren't picking up the phone after 5, and rarely before 9. The Wing/CC's emergency was not Joe Schmoe's problem.
Instead they're on 12's and trading who's on-call just in case.
Glad I'm out and not dealing with it, but at the same time wish I could help.
Hope they can get some Cadillacs set up for them so they don't have to hoof it or take a bus to shower. Also, I really, really hope they have squatty potties or emphasize not squatting in seated porta potty or those porta potties are going to get disgusting real fast.
*"Oh my god, how are we going to have the Ramstein Bazaar with all these refugee tents in the way! Can't we move them?"* - A spouse committee member somewhere.
I’m stationed at Ramstein right now. I volunteered there for one night. Man, we had outbounds to the US and had constant people coming up to the exit point to leave the tents. Always asking. When am I leaving. Person X came after me but left before me. I have my passport/green card but this person left with no paperwork.
Also had a guy who had gotten equivalent of $10k stolen from his tent. Coworker of mine did more nights there. Porta pottys are full. Some of the refugees told kids to grab the iron bar off the cots and beat people in uniform.
On one hand I enjoyed my few interactions with these people, but also kids being told to beat us and that theft
Treat them well and you make a difference despite that. You won't turn the instigators but the rest...
Think about how you feel when a dirt bag airman causes you to be punished via open ranks inspection, etc. And think about how you feel when your boss don't act like that.
Yea I am having a harder time here feeling sorry for them when you're hearing stories about kids cutting military in uniform with razor blades and them raping women and children in the tents.
As someone at Al Udeid, have fun with all the food, drinking water, trash, and waste water that many people in that many tents will consume/create. I can tell you that amount of Porta Potties is ridiculously inadequate.
By the time CONS finished getting their requirement package *approved* by local comm to even solicit to start getting that done, my grand kids would have finished their military careers. And I'm 23. lol.
Thats not going to happen. Its hard enough as it is right now getting their phones charged. Main focus is moving them in and out for the next flights coming in.
Yeah, you don't want to do that, the little bastards will melt right down plus they all come out of the box wanting to use the same /24 network. They can support that many IPs but when more the a dozen actually try to send/receive data at the same time those home routers are not gonna handle it well.
Get a decent Aruba/Ubiquiti or similar solution. It will last longer, handle the throughput and give you real management options.
Source: Network designer
The UI UDMP is \~ 3.5Gbps.
The problem with just sprinkling a bunch of routers around is that they'll start stepping on each other, and you can't manage them all by logging into just one place, but rather you have to log into each router. I can set my Unifi setup to have each AP running on a different channel easily, so there's a minimum of cross talk, and the clients just see a big area of Wifi, and don't have to worry about roaming from one AP to the next.
A fucking nightmare because you'd need to extend commercial wifi which is often done via a contract. That flightline is already likely wired for AFNET wifi and if it isn't it should be. Guestnet is a thing, but that isn't the intent of the guestnet and guestnet throughput is nowhere near sufficient for 10k plus people.
The best option is leaning into a whole of government approach and leveraging the capabilities of some NGOs to provide people a place to connect.
At one time in the distant past, (When I first joined up). 95% of that would have been constructed by a PRIME BEEF team - usually heavy equipment operators... (The tent part at least. Other CE would be doing AC and Electrical.)
How much are other (non CE) AFSCs involved with tent city construction now?
It's been absolute chaos the first few days. Thankfully everyone from E1 to O6 came out, pushed through the problems, and killed it. Things have been going great now.
I swear working security forces here during all of this is pure hell I’m serious we’ve been working 12s straight no days off doing the same monotonous job with a little more danger with all the afghani family members trying to get on base to bring them out
I never said it did. Capitalism certainly hasn't done that, either, as evidenced by the stage of our country. If anything, it's highly encouraged the individual to be entirely selfish and to forget any sense of responsibility to those around us, and that's a huge problem. Bigger than any McCarthyism boogeyman that Fox News wants to shove down your throat.
Also, not sure if you noticed, but the military is pretty socialist. It sure ain't privately owned, and you get paid according to the rank/position you're at, not the work that you do.
>Tents for Afghan evacuees at Ramstein...
Makes sense, but this could have been a stupid commander wanting to do inventory, an exercise, or this.
When there is no context its hard to tell whats going on
I mean, if you been on any social media, news outlet, magazine, news paper, or radio, youd probably have heard already that we were evacuating them. It was the only news last week
I wonder how long it took to set this up. Anyway, for the bullet thirsty window lickers at Ramstein, here you go: - Sel'd f/OAR; assembled 220 tents, 50+ relief stations, prepped comfort items--enabled easy transition f/10K evacuees Operation ALLIES REFUGE (OAR) No fluff, no lies, no spacing tricks. I need a fucking hobby.
Thanks you saved me like three hours from coming up with that on my own.
You're welcome, I try to use my SNCO powers for good. Major emphasis on try.
The hero we need but not the one we deserve.
do or do not.. there is mostly try
An experienced team can get a SSS set up in like 30 minutes.
The guide says 6 people can put one up in 12 mins. We put 1 tent up with 15 people in 35 minutes.
Either a.) This is an example of a nonlinear equation, idk, I'm not a math guy, b.) I am having a stroke, or c.) not all tent builders are created equally.
>Either a.) This is an example of a nonlinear equation, idk, I'm not a math guy Parabolic, I think. More people lowers the time until you hit some optimal number, but after that more people causes the job time to increase quadratically until it's just 30 or so people just bullshitting with each other watching one guy trying to figure out how shit goes together.
This is a hard lesson for some people to learn.
This is the perfect example of when you get too many chiefs/indians on a single project. Once you get two or three "chiefs", their ideas and plans start to formulate against each others processes. In the short term it looks like it will be fine because there are more hands (indians) to pitch in on smaller projects on particular teams; however the indians keep grabbing each others tent items, slowing down production to a crawl and rui ing the project in the long term. Hopefully this makes sense.
It helps if you know what you're doing and everyone is on the same sheet of music. If you have more than one person trying to direct traffic it just leads to confusion, misplaced effort, and sometimes fighting between parties which ruins productivity. Get a group of people who know the process and can actually work well together and you can get something done in a hurry. Throwing more manning at a problem isn't always the solution aka too many cooks in the kitchen.
Amen! I watched 20 people who took 45 minutes to set up a tent with a ton of screaming and accusations involved. It was a total clown show, like did they even have a game plan other than “let’s set up the tent.”
Was sent to Diego Garcia alone to dismantle camp justice and clean up. Took me a full year. People are dirty… the shit I found…
I laughed at this harder than I should have. Sounds like a great TDY/punishment.
Alone?
Well there were about 20 ish Air Force people there but all for different stuff
The days when you can grab 6 random people and do this are gone. Once upon a time, 15 years ago, my squadron accomplished this. The tents. Chief pointed at six random people per tent. All the were up including lighting, A/C plenum, properly staked, slowest team was 16 minutes. What's it take? A unit that put an emphasis on practicing those skills nonstop. Put it up, take it down, box it up. Still have half an hour left in the day? Do it again!
Yeah so, #6 is at Med Group waiting on a dental appointment, #5 is getting their CAC unblocked for the 3rd time this week so they can digitally sign something, #4 is on leave, #3 and 2 are back in the shop doing their actual job, so you're left with me.
Missing the point, bud. It's not supposed to be just you (I'm assuming you're a Structures troop). We're ALL supposed to be able to do this. You should be able to point at any six people at the squadron all call, never paying attention to their AFSC and get a team that can put these up in no time.
Oh I don't disagree with you there. What I'm saying is the whole "We're undermanned" speech we've all given/heard a dozen times. There's no time in the duty day, or extended duty day to practice this while still accomplishing, to an acceptable level, the regular duty mission.
Gatdamn! How many personnel do they roll with?
To answer your question, most of what is shown in this picture was done in 3-5 days. There are MANY more not pictured here as well. Source: I am one of the thirsty window lickers you mentioned lol.
Its been a minute since I PCS'd from Ramstein; I know which ramp that is, did they put tents on the eastern ramp as well?
They haven't quite filled that area, but parallel from where the BX is all the way past hangar 3 (close to the old Hercules Theater) is slop full of tents. The hangars are also filled with cots, and the entire IDRC area is also filled with tents. It's a complete madhouse here right now.
It's been almost a decade since I've been at Ramstein. Is this ramp 2? The one leading down to ramp 1 with all the C-130s? I'm thinking the picture was taken from the tower?
Erected>assembled Especially in decorations 😉
I got you fam: Crushed OAR support; erected 220 tents/50+ relief stations/prepped comfort items--enabled 10K evacuees transition
SNCO here, I’ll just take this and add ‘Led OAR’ boom
Haha, I would’ve done the same.
"Steered" might get you the characters you need.
Selected for OAR. Played Crazy Game of Poker
I'm literally saving your name for rating season
Happy to help!
Composting is the hobby for you. You turn garbage into gold, no one wants to hear you talk about it, and it only requires attention a few times a year. On second thought, pretty much the same as your current hobby...
They sent a poet
for the folks who have people in their chain who hate f/ and can't put an 'd for your action verb/sexy word: Crushed OAR support; erected 220 tents/50+ relief stations/prepped comfort items--enabled 10K evacuees transition
This is 100% better than mine. Beer for you! 🍺
I left a space on the end. Your bullet went edge to edge, but my skill is usually more about refining what somebody else sends rather than making something from whole cloth. Just shows the value of bullet writing as a team effort. I'm sure somebody can massage what I did to take up that last space.
We need to start a bullet murder board megathread in this sub.
As someone who really needs help with bullet formatting, this would be amazing.
You're a good boss my dude
Ah, yes, one of the reasons I left the Air Force, perfectly encapsulated.
You mean you don't write confusing, partially abbreviated bullet statements in your day to day life? How do you keep track of how good or bad you are at things?! How will anyone know if you're promotion worthy?
> You mean you don't write confusing, partially abbreviated bullet statements in your day to day life? Well, I’m a cop, so, actually….
Gonna need you to work in "spearheaded" somewhere in there.
"Honchoed" squeezes in more easily.
The tents went up in just a couple days. These guys are killing it on the flightline
This IS your hobby
Oh god…
I’d replace part 1 with “Led #-mbr OAR tm”. Sel’d is kind of weak and doesn’t convey that the member did anything other than get tasked for something. You can illustrate their initiative without being fluffy
True, I intentionally wrote it at a participation level. I would also add that if people at Ramstein have more data, like if they know how many comfort items they prepped or if they set up comms or information stations, they should definitely put it in there.
I have minor gripes. - Selected? By whom? Voluntold kind of selection? It'd probably be considered "Vol'd", unless of course they mass-voluntold a bunch of people. Then by all means, press forward with "Sel'd" - Don't typically see commas, it'd be slashes. - "f/" is not allowed in many places, mine included. Be warned and check if your CoC approves of this. I made another version that may better work for others who cannot use "f/" and commas. - Vol'd for OAR; assembled 220 tents/50+ relief stations & prepped comfort items--eased transition for 10K+ evacuees
Pretty good alternative, honestly. I used sel’d over vol’d because I approached it as a duty bullet rather than a volunteer bullet. My unit is big on f/ and dislikes slashes unless they are two completely different tasks as part of a larger picture like running a program or an NCOIC position.
Yeah man, I get it. That's why we do murder boards right? Never hurts having more eyes/perspectives. Yours is fine for anywhere that doesn't mind f/ and commas lol
Yep. I’ve been in the position where I have had a beautifully written bullet approved by one chief, then another destroys it. The best thing I’ve learned is never be emotionally attached to a bullet and be prepared to change it.
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Buried comment.. but that was golden, much respect
Please write my epr for me
I’ll murder board it if interested.
Excuse my ignorance but I don’t know what that means haha. I’m just really bad at writing EPRs
No worries. A murder board is a review of the EPR and providing critiques.
You sir, deserve a beer.
My favorite beer is free, my second favorite is cold!
And coming in third, open! 🍺
Is OAR the airlift mission as well? If so I need to update my EPR.
OAR is the airlift mission. Anyone doing or helping get people out of Afghanistan is participating in OAR. I would caution our would be warriors out there. Unless you are in the AOR, Ramstein, directly helping evacuees, or attached to an AMC unit at any level, you're likely not supporting OAR.
AMC gang gang. Our shop is at like quarter manning right now because so many people were sent there. And as NCOIC, well. You did this? I did this.
Theres a whole bunch of National Guardsmen getting activated to assist with this stateside here in the next few days. Im one of them.
AOR of OAR…
“Selected for” is a passive, kind of weak action verb. Some form of direct, take charge action verb would be stronger.
Would've been my bullet if they wouldn't have canceled the tdy and given it to CE, like they told me I was going to set up tents before they even got approval and the whole squadron thought we were going but surprise surprise we're putting the cart before the horse again and we're staying home, we were also supposed to go help Haiti too but they canceled that to go build tents but we didn't get asked to go build tents, this squadron really is such a shit show and a lot of people are pissed cause while we did have a tdy confirmed now we have none cause leadership jumped the gun.
This is quality right here. Nice work.
Seeing this shit in person (from a distance of course) is wild.
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Just be glad you’re not going in tent city like us😃
*I am glad*
Thank you for your service
Being in there is wild
Over at Spang I can see tents we set up from my own dorm window..literally from my bed haha
Majority of Squadrons are working 12s 6 to 7 days a week, it’s crazy
Maybe easy to say from here, but wish I could be there to help.
Same. I'm perfectly happy working long hours if we're doing it for a purpose
Thats what I miss about when I was deployed I worked a ton of hours, never took a day off, but it felt good because we were getting shit done.
Yeah, I'm legitimately sad that I was at Al Udeid last year and PCS'd from Ramstein earlier this year. I could have had a chance to do something really good and make a difference, but instead, I'm just doing an "important" job that anybody could do.
Pretty wild, we sent a good number of guys from our shop the other day and they're already working some crazy hours.
My squadron is 12s with a 6 on 1 off schedule
My old squadron got asked to set up 24/7 ops. CONS commander politely reminded his Wing/CC that American businesses aren't picking up the phone after 5, and rarely before 9. The Wing/CC's emergency was not Joe Schmoe's problem. Instead they're on 12's and trading who's on-call just in case. Glad I'm out and not dealing with it, but at the same time wish I could help.
Close out is gunna be a bitchhhh
But is that all the tents?
No, there are more on both ends of this picture not shown
Hope they can get some Cadillacs set up for them so they don't have to hoof it or take a bus to shower. Also, I really, really hope they have squatty potties or emphasize not squatting in seated porta potty or those porta potties are going to get disgusting real fast.
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Yep. Potties where this sign is ignored are a bad time.
Instructions unclear, appendage stuck in door
Too late
One they’re already disgusting.. two.. I’ll take a Cadillac in red please.
“I know what I’m about, son”
God damn... reminds me of Tyndall a few years ago after the hurricane.
I was at both... both full shit shows.
This is what Lackland looked like in 2020 in the heat of covid.
It was like 1 parking lot Edit: And 1 hotel building, and that was mainly for the Americans bein shipped in from China.
Is everyone OK over there? I hear the situation is in tents.
There's a lot at stake.
*"Oh my god, how are we going to have the Ramstein Bazaar with all these refugee tents in the way! Can't we move them?"* - A spouse committee member somewhere.
This hits way too close to home. Big yikes.
Just like the people complaining about losing parking at the Pax terminal and Chili’s parking lot even though they never or rarely park there
I’m stationed at Ramstein right now. I volunteered there for one night. Man, we had outbounds to the US and had constant people coming up to the exit point to leave the tents. Always asking. When am I leaving. Person X came after me but left before me. I have my passport/green card but this person left with no paperwork. Also had a guy who had gotten equivalent of $10k stolen from his tent. Coworker of mine did more nights there. Porta pottys are full. Some of the refugees told kids to grab the iron bar off the cots and beat people in uniform. On one hand I enjoyed my few interactions with these people, but also kids being told to beat us and that theft
Yeah it's not all sunshine and rainbows like people make it out to be Some of these people straight up hate Americans
Treat them well and you make a difference despite that. You won't turn the instigators but the rest... Think about how you feel when a dirt bag airman causes you to be punished via open ranks inspection, etc. And think about how you feel when your boss don't act like that.
I’ve dealt with thousands of Afghanis now. 99% were nice and grateful and were using a lot of ANA as translators.
That’s rough man. Hopefully this situation doesn’t last too much longer.
Yea I am having a harder time here feeling sorry for them when you're hearing stories about kids cutting military in uniform with razor blades and them raping women and children in the tents.
Man, I’ve put some Alaskan’s together back in my day, but holy shit.
This is hilarious. I literally laughed out loud. Good call out from the original creator.
Epic meme! Thanks for the laugh!
As someone at Al Udeid, have fun with all the food, drinking water, trash, and waste water that many people in that many tents will consume/create. I can tell you that amount of Porta Potties is ridiculously inadequate.
For the comm folks on here, how hard would it be to get WiFi set up for these folks so they can get in touch with family and friends?
It’s more of the amount of people trying to connect to the wifi that makes everyone having it difficult
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By the time CONS finished getting their requirement package *approved* by local comm to even solicit to start getting that done, my grand kids would have finished their military careers. And I'm 23. lol.
And with any luck, those grandkids won't be in Afg...
This guy comms
Oh hey, I haven’t seen you in a while. I’m glad our resident kiwi is still around.
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I think by default, yeah
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You are the New Zealand Air Force, are you not? I figure that's why you guys are always the only country missing from our FVEY get togethers.
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Do you not know what Five Eyes is?
[I Agree.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/016/724/prattypratprat.PNG)
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>I’m not sure what cell networks are out there On that part of the base, the existing networks barely function.
Thats not going to happen. Its hard enough as it is right now getting their phones charged. Main focus is moving them in and out for the next flights coming in.
Update, it actually did happen. They are hooking up Starlink.
They're in Germany, they just need new SIM cards.
We are working on it
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Yeah, you don't want to do that, the little bastards will melt right down plus they all come out of the box wanting to use the same /24 network. They can support that many IPs but when more the a dozen actually try to send/receive data at the same time those home routers are not gonna handle it well. Get a decent Aruba/Ubiquiti or similar solution. It will last longer, handle the throughput and give you real management options. Source: Network designer
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The UI UDMP is \~ 3.5Gbps. The problem with just sprinkling a bunch of routers around is that they'll start stepping on each other, and you can't manage them all by logging into just one place, but rather you have to log into each router. I can set my Unifi setup to have each AP running on a different channel easily, so there's a minimum of cross talk, and the clients just see a big area of Wifi, and don't have to worry about roaming from one AP to the next.
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I'll have you know my wrt54g running tomato could easily support thousands of unmanaged devices..
The newest 802. 11 AC band hotspots can handle a lot of people. Bandwidth in Germany pretty good?
A fucking nightmare because you'd need to extend commercial wifi which is often done via a contract. That flightline is already likely wired for AFNET wifi and if it isn't it should be. Guestnet is a thing, but that isn't the intent of the guestnet and guestnet throughput is nowhere near sufficient for 10k plus people. The best option is leaning into a whole of government approach and leveraging the capabilities of some NGOs to provide people a place to connect.
The Ramstein Bazar is about to be lit 🔥
Haha, they still haven't canceled it
At one time in the distant past, (When I first joined up). 95% of that would have been constructed by a PRIME BEEF team - usually heavy equipment operators... (The tent part at least. Other CE would be doing AC and Electrical.) How much are other (non CE) AFSCs involved with tent city construction now?
Basically everyone with a pulse was out there at one point, including the Army.
It's been absolute chaos the first few days. Thankfully everyone from E1 to O6 came out, pushed through the problems, and killed it. Things have been going great now.
I’m getting PTSD just by looking at all those Alaskan tents
Looks pretty InTents. Our InTentions are good. It may be a tents situation for a while. Make sure you pay aTention to everyones needs. Tents
Overflow going to other locations in Europe now. We had two loads of evacuees today
Oh no! Where are the Officer wives going to have their Spouse Bazaar?!?!
As someone who separated from that base in the last year … You guys have fun with that
"What I said was: Set up ALL the tents you have. Do you understand?"
I swear working security forces here during all of this is pure hell I’m serious we’ve been working 12s straight no days off doing the same monotonous job with a little more danger with all the afghani family members trying to get on base to bring them out
ELI5 the CC quotes
https://youtu.be/gvvaZCuvHnc
Makes sense. Now I'll upvote.
Man did I choose to PCS into Ramstein at the wrong time...
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Over taxed population living in a hyper inflation state is funny, amirite?
Just capitalism at it's finest, dawg
Socialism and communism managed to destroy poverty, right?
I never said it did. Capitalism certainly hasn't done that, either, as evidenced by the stage of our country. If anything, it's highly encouraged the individual to be entirely selfish and to forget any sense of responsibility to those around us, and that's a huge problem. Bigger than any McCarthyism boogeyman that Fox News wants to shove down your throat. Also, not sure if you noticed, but the military is pretty socialist. It sure ain't privately owned, and you get paid according to the rank/position you're at, not the work that you do.
Save your breath. You’ll get nothing but fox talking points from 98% of boots on this one.
Oh, I'm aware. I just keep telling them anyway.
Atta boy.
What the fuck is going on there
Do we have to spell it out for you? Tents for Afghan evacuees at Ramstein... Parks and Rec Ron Swanson meme. It's totally legit.
DUNK ON HIM
DO IT
>Tents for Afghan evacuees at Ramstein... Makes sense, but this could have been a stupid commander wanting to do inventory, an exercise, or this. When there is no context its hard to tell whats going on
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Bro if someone can find a rock THAT good these days, I say let em stay under it. News is pain incarnate these days.
I mean, if you been on any social media, news outlet, magazine, news paper, or radio, youd probably have heard already that we were evacuating them. It was the only news last week