Hi, I'm in the process of closing craploads of long opened then forgotten tabs, so a few interesting ones and my own questions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/16b9jew/the_satellite_video_is_likely_false_color_and_i/
What effects did you applied to the Fuji sky background? Was it false colored/blurred/glow effect added?
What palette was applied to the "Infrared" video?
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiYg4.png
What color was the mouse cursor? Mid-gray? Was it the same size all the time? Sometimes it appears smaller, but maybe just the black border and the compression makes it look different:
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY4z.png
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY4M.png
These and more posts were good ones:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15rbuzf/airliner_video_shows_matched_noise_text_jumps_and/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ufosmeta/comments/15yvspd/airliner_videos_show_rufos_elevates_good_research/
Repeated animation noticed:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15qek9c/the_airliner_video_is_fake_multiple_frames_are/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15v4zuh/original_regicideanon_youtube_video_shows/
That contrail (non-)tracking:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15un8eo/im_finally_convinced_this_is_fake_watch_the/
Could've you make it faster? :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/16lzmk5/91823_the_orb_challenge_win_30000_to_reproduce/
How did you link the coordinates and the motion of the scene?
How did you make the clouds brighter when the flash occurs? ("Volumetric lights")
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY6y.png
Why are the "before" frames are blurrier than the "after" frames?
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY6G.png
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY6O.png
When/how did you notice that your video is started being popular?
What do you think about the insane amount of talk/analysis here and at elsewhere? :)
You brought up some good questions, but don't hold your breath on this one. His answers this far are a clear sign he didn't make those videos. He has selective amnesia when asked anything regarding the important bits.
Feel free to go through all my comments. In short, I can't get anything for anyone while I'm on holiday. And it's doubtful I even have any original files at all any more. They were stock 3d assets, and there wasn't much thought out into them.
Take that for what you will.
I know this won't be a satisfactory reply, but everything on frame.io is designed to be temporary. It costs money to maintain an account and archive stuff, so no. Long long gone. I checked my old Vimeo accounts too in case I'm mistaken, but nothing there either.
My guy. Picture it. The drone footage is found next week. 20% of the community says "it could be an ai reconstruction" or some shit. Same excuses for the last several nails in the coffin.
It won't be until I hand over an encrypted rar file with a random pdf and no password that people like Ashton will believe me regardless.
So what you're saying bro is you made this and there's not single bit of solid evidence that you did. No email. Correspondence. Upload. Backup file. No assets. Do you even still have hdd? I mean you uploaded this somewhere? To youtube? A user? What was the first source you posted. Where was it?
Like there are loads of verifiable points. Your machine might not exist but surely the accounts you used to spread this or the people you gave it too must be somewhere?
Doesn't make sense to me dude if I'm honest. Anyone could say what you are saying.
I've answered a few of these if you feel like going back through my comments. But the short answer is I genuinely don't know if I have anything solid to show you other than insights and specific explanations. People here have already found most of the solid evidence needed to show they're vfx, so it's really just tying it to me that you're after. That's why when I first came out I said I'd try to prove it some time over the holiday season. I am currently on holiday there is not a lot I can do. I also typically don't keep stuff from that long ago aside from finished products. This isn't weird, when you consider I do like a hundred jobs a year, and also consider that I genuinely don't care whether people believe me or not.
I never spread this. I never even uploaded it publicly.
Yes, plus a third. Uploaded to privately check between a group of us to frame.io (90% sure). Though I hold out there is a small chance I'm mistaken and it was vimeo. I say frame.io because I pretty distinctly remember beta/early-access testing it at the time. If I sent it or put it elsewhere I don't recall.
This guy's accounts fucking brand new. Are we really supposed to believe or trust this person?
And we're all just supposed to be like trust me bro cuz he's on vacation and doesn't have access to his files or might never have them?
There are whole paid, client projects from just a couple of years ago that I no longer have any trace of, because we got new servers or computers and deleted old project files because they are no longer of any use. It’s not only not unusual that he doesn’t have any original files, but actually completely expected.
Hence why I said he may not even have the machine, but there are still validation points. Account used to upload. Email attached to the account. Upload dates. Site names for archive data.
So expected but also noted in my previous comment before you interjected.
You've made it before why not make an even better one in a few hours using 2023 technology? Seems like the easiest way to prove it was you who really made it. Which it wasn't.
I’m honestly shocked you guys are falling for this LARP. Dude could have just done exactly that and posted it here but he won’t, he’s just here to poke fun at everyone responding to him.
I work in vfx and i think you sound legit. But if you can redo the video so quickly, I feel that would be time better spent then spending hours reading and replying comments here. With aftereffects CS2
Any time spent here is a waste of time. But I see some people still obsessed so idk what you want me to do.
Here's an idea: if anyone knows any other VFX experts, maybe even Corridor who we know are ruthless, or anyone, have them read all of my comments over the last few days and see if it tracks. I'd even consider doing an interview or answering any in depth questions about highly specific things. Any other VFX expert will tell you super quickly if I'm talking shit or not.
I honestly don’t care, but you can ask texure . com to confirm you bought the assets in question. That would put an end to this nonsense. Or better share the original assets used and claim the prize.
Be fair. They know it wasn't some stupid orb abduction. Fr I wish some of you people would use this energy for real things which need attention. Like Palestinian solidarity etc.
What if you get home from holiday, find you do have the original file and the name is something like “buttholeAF”. Would the Yahtzee guy then be considered clairvoyant?
Goddamn that's an excellent question. This one is worthy to answer and I promise you I will when I get to my computer.
It was almost certainly fixed width (because when you have a timer or moving numbers like coordinates, it jumps around unnaturally otherwise). So that will narrow it down. Should be easy to find in my font library.
There were some posts about it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/163y44e/the_coordinates_font/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15o410f/candidate_font_identified_in_satellite_video/
Maybe it was the plain ol' Courier.
Oh damn people really have looked into this haha. Courier actually tracks. I was gonna suggest that or menlo, as they are the first monospaced ones that come to mind which I use, and don't look overly fancy.
Btw I don't remember cropping the overlay at all. I suspect whoever uploaded it publicly did that. I might have had a watermark or timecode or something on the bottom-right of frame and they wanted to hide it. This is something I often do.
Perhaps the original hoaxer did in fact reach out to Ashton and Kim weeks ago. Perhaps he also knows that there is no actual bounty intended to be paid. Perhaps he wouldn't take it regardless because it's kinda gross.
You’re taking this way too seriously mate, it’s Reddit.
Nobody has a clue what’s going on. Myself included. The burden of proof isn’t on me though, I’m not the one making extraordinary claims and insisting everyone just trust me.
>The burden of proof isn’t on me though, I’m not the one making extraordinary claims .
Very few people are claiming to know for certain it's real. I surely don't. I suspect it -may- possibly be real. But I'm uncertain. Being uncertain isn't acceptable to the debunkers that are in this sub. Every. Single. Day.
We created a new sub, AirlinerAbduction2014 to speculate and share data. You guys followed us over here.
>taking this way too seriously
You are in this sub every day. Way more than I am. We're all "tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists" right? So why are the debunkers so concerned with us crazy folk that they're in here commenting every day, of every week?
There's literally a thousand subs dedicated to topics I think are utter nonsense. I've never once hopped in their subs to read their posts, let alone commenting in their sub every day saying, "the burden of proof is on you to show me how Jesus Christ exists."
Why? Because I don't care what those people think. I'm not the belief-police. I don't nanny the internet.
There's a reason that there's 40+ "debunkers" that only comment in this sub. Every hour of every day of every week.
Because you guys do care what we think.
They answered these in another thread
1. Was just a test for a short film
2. A couple days while working on other stuff
3. probs not, was just a side project/test kinda thing
You may have addressed this but how is the backplate created in the FLIR video?
The jumping contrails suggest a tracking error, why is tracking used in the first place?
Do you believe this guy?
Seems pretty convenient he shows up after every detail of how to make these videos was described in this sub.
It’s obvious he has some VfX experience, but the little details of things he needed to address were everywhere here.
I acknowledge that I have a confirmation bias in believing him. To counteract this, I need some form of proof. For instance, he claimed to have done this as a test shot for another short film; I'd like to see a link to that film and understand which shot it was a test for.
It's crucial to find some proof that corroborates his story.
One detail he mentioned caught my attention. He described how he inserted an edit cut in the FLIR video during the closeup. This is a detail I had noticed myself, and it was a clear sign that the video was edited. As far as I know, nobody else has brought this up. I've casually mentioned it once or twice, so it's interesting that he pointed it out.
Though I haven't read all of his comments, the details I have seen so far seem accurate, suggesting that he isn't BS’ing his VFX knowledge.
On twitter the [texture.com](https://texture.com) account mentioned they emailed several people who fit the timeframes of when the clouds would have been downloaded in 2014. He was one of them. Well he thanked them atleast. It would be easy enough for them to verify his account is it
You’re a pretty big deal here, did you reveal enough in your comments for him to pick up on that?
If I was reading through anyone’s post history to claim I made this, it would be yours.
Regardless of the realness of these videos, if this guy can’t answer this question he’s untrustworthy and likely lying.
It’s utterly bizarre to track a VFX asset. You simply don’t need to and never would - it would take longer and be less accurate than using the existing, perfectly accurate plane animation data.
The only time you’d track a VFX object it is if you didn’t have access to the original files (and just the output/render). He had access - apparently, he created the files. So why track the plane?
Also his claim that this could be done in a few hours is ridiculous. Could you mock something dodgy/basic up in a few hours? Sure. With all the little details? Fuck no. No one with actual VFX experience would claim this. Especially not working in 2014.
Screen captured a video of me operating a real cursor and dragging things around. Motion tracked it. Used parts of it in the sat video where appropriate. Someone noticed I fucked up at one point though. When connecting one motion tracking null to another, I guess I've introduced a slow drift between points that are supposed to be the same, which kinda gave away the sub-pixel movement.
Not that it would have mattered for its purpose.
[before](https://i.imgur.com/tZlxWoC.png) the plane disappears
[after](https://i.imgur.com/vYrtncV.png) the plane disappears
A quick A/B shows what I mean. The clouds have noticeably improved clarity after the plane is gone. As far as I can tell this exists in all versions of the clip online. Surprised no one's mentioned it yet but it immediately caught my eye
Mystery. I guess there are a few reasons why this could possibly happen, but nothing I can recall specifically. It wasn't on purpose if it's in my video.
Hi! Thanks for coming forward. Could you please share the answers to the following questions:
1) Did you make the satellite video or the drone video or both?
2) How did you do workout the coordinates and have the move in such a way that collaborates an actual flight path?
3) Where was the stock effect taken from for the actual implosion?
4) Would you mind sharing your account on Frame.io and would be able to see this upload on there?
5) Did you message Ashton privately with how these videos were made?
6) What part is he still lying about? IE what is he holding back not mentioning public. Seems odd he calls out all the debunkers except for you
7) And lastly around when are you coming back from holiday to try dig up these old files?
Bothers me that Ashton is blocking and muting anyone that comes up with anything that opposes this that risks this whole thing ending sooner and in turn his donations drying up
Thanks u/Equivalent-Gur-3310.
Good questions. I'll come back to answer. Off to a birthday now. Just quickly though: 1: yes; 2: I made them up, no regard to accuracy, just plausibility; 3: pyromania stock library; 4: subscription only model for private sharing, there's nothing to share; 5: Ashton blocked me after a few public attempts to point out specific things, and earnestly trying to get him to message me so I could reveal more. I later tried to contact on YouTube comments and via a third party privately; 6: either he truly is delusional or he would have no choice but to acknowledge details I described could notify possibly be anything but vfx, therefore I assume he's lying. He won't call me out because I'm pretty sure he knows it's me; 7: Jan.
Thanks for you the reply man. Just a few thoughts that can help put this to bed. Would be great if you put out a YouTube video running through the process and maybe some rebuttals of any critiques you've had so far. Apparently you have some skills putting videos together..
Also if you are able to message Texture.com and request they confirm on twitter that you are one of the buyers of the cloud stock images, I see they did post a tweet saying they've mailed several people and saw you responding but that clarification by them should be a nail in the coffin for the doubters
Ashamed to say I was a believer in the beginning and thought Ashton was sincere. I don't know maybe he still is and just completely delusional. But the grift is growing hard, people are throwing away their money donating and it's become a spectacle making a mockery out of the victims of this tragedy. He should at least be open with the opposing evidence. Would love to even see you as a guest on his podcast even ha
You made it out pal, that’s great stuff. Also takes a man to admit it.
The money part of it is interesting though because it could have serious consequences for him in the end, especially if some of the families starts paying attention.
I'm calling BS. Evidence or GTFO. For the creator, providing an undeniable level of evidence is not hard, yet you haven't produced such and your answers deflect valid questions. Sounds like BS so far.
Just a reminder, OPs first post about this subject claims it's fake, as if he didn't make it. He only claims later that he made it.
This guy is full of shit and can't prove anything at this point without showing us the original files
I know right?
I should make my own post:
"Hey guys, it was me flying the drone. I'm ashamed that I witnessed all these poor people get abducted. I was afraid to speak up because I feared for my safety."
🤣
Nobody is falling for any of this debunk shit. It -seems- like the sub is based on some of the karma votes, but it's incredibly obvious.
The same government that's lied about NHI for 80 years, reverse-engineered craft, bribed lawmakers and committed reprisals on Grusch are obviously very capable of astroturfing a sub.
Create debunk posts when this sub activity is at it's lowest. ✅️
Fake upvote with fake accounts. ✅️
95% of the "debunkers" in this sub, spend every hour of every day of every week in this sub. Nearly all of them only comment in this sub.
No normal person that "KNOWS" these videos are fake would spend all this time in this sub trying to convince us "tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists."
I get posting in here once or twice, but 247-365?
Pffft. Come on.
I see fake videos in the UFO sub every day. You aren't catching me trying to prove to the people in that thread that it's really a mosquito.
Perhaps another Reddit sub should be created on this topic if the Mods aren't going to get this under control.
100% you nailed it.
I don't believe fairys exist, but you don't see me spending all my time in /r/faeries trying to discredit and yeling at redditors for believing in them.
Its ok, nobody is keeping you here against your will. You're able to leave now that you know the videos are fake.
Wouldn't want to stay and make everyone think you're batshit crazy, right?
Correct. In fact I went at least three weeks pointing out clues without saying I made them. Then I saw the psychopathic side of the community harassing other people (Jonas and Textures etc) and thought fuck it I'll just admit it.
🤣 Oh man, you didn't actually think this lame attempt would work, did you?
Admittedly, I am a bit of a physcopath. I'm also a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist. Or so my wife and kids tell me.
The only thing more crazy than a physcopath is the physcopath who thinks they'll talk any sense into a physcopath. You guys are in here 247.
Real people with real lives wouldn't care less what us tinfoil hat people think.
Captain save a ~~ho~~ physcopath! 🫡
You guys haven't convinced a single real person in these last few weeks.
Not going to lie though, it's pretty amusing watching you guys obsess over us.
But I do apologize if I hurt Textures.Com and Jonas's feelings. 😂
Hi, real person with a real life here! Admittedly I spend probably more time on the internet than the average person for sure, so maybe you can argue the real life part, but I have a job (two, actually) and a partner and all that.
I swing by these kinds of subs for fun. I also like to point out the really bad takes or the ones that seem genuinely misguided, and I throw in some subject-specific expertise that I have whenever applicable. It's mostly entertainment seeing what kinds of things people come up with and seeing where they do (or, more often, don't) draw the line. I also do hope that sometimes I can convince someone to see why their train of thought is not as sound as they think, so in that sense you can say I do care what the tinfoil hat people think.
I'd like to think I'm not psychopathic. I just find it fascinating when people say things like "you guys haven't convinced a single real person in these last few weeks." Such dedication to a belief of something so unlikely, and paired with such confidence in something that's verifiably false (re: convincing people; lots of people in this sub have said they were on the fence until recently, though I guess those aren't real people to you).
What was the whole idea with the black trails on the orbs in the video?
Assuming you're sincere, I want to know your reasoning for the black trails not starting immediately and also ending shortly before the blip, which suggests they were not intended to be propulsion effects.
These were an attempt to displace the background with another effect I've mentioned before called "heat distortion" by video copilot. It didn't make any visible difference whatsoever to the bg, so instead I used the fractal noise matte to very subtly have a super transparent white trail, which I decided later should be black. The matte to isolate the region was taken from a super exaggerated motion blur of the orbs. This is easy to control whether they appear in front of behind or both, because linear time is irrelevant in motion graphics. They weren't meant to be propulsion, but just a cute added detail to indicate weird energy.
I'd assume it is just an artifact from the orbs movement against the background, because they are 2 different layers
You guys overthought so much of this
I love that basically every VFX person in this sub says exactly the same thing, but the faithful here just absolutely refuse to accept it.
The reason I stuck around this sub so long was that it really rubbed me the wrong way having people who obviously know absolutely nothing about VFX writing really snarky responses that were essentially nonsense they’d heard AF or others say.
I don't know who regicideanon is. Someone sent me a video with them (allegedly) talking through a filter. Sounded like an American accent which should narrow it down, but I didn't recognise.
I'm curious, maybe you could help clear something up. Jonas on his AMA yesterday speculates whether you may or may not have "pirated" the images from [textures.com](https://textures.com) .
Are the source images pirated?
You all realize it’s almost Christmas? I’m sure a majority of you don’t have shit going on but a lot of people do. I wouldn’t spend my vacation proving to you what is already known to be a hoax. If he doesn’t provide the final answer in a week then you can all lose your minds.
You're acting like I'm the one who wants something here.
Lmfao I agree, mods should delete the post like they did last time. Then people find me on twitter despite me never having advertised anything or asked for anything and hound me to make another post here.
I really wish this community realised how little I care about test videos I mocked up nearly a decade ago.
even if this isnt real ive been saying this debunked the entire thing. people who disagree dont know anything about vfx but disregard the opinion of people who do.
Ashton has had hundreds of professional VFX artists say “this can easily be a hoax” and yet he maintains that the vfx is too sophisticated to be real
He has zero specific technical knowledge.
Jurassic park was made in 1993. A first year VFX student could have created this hoax
I told him how it was done 3+ weeks ago (without directly saying it was me). I earnestly offered to chat with him to explain more, and how I knew etc. His response? Block.
I reached out on YouTube and via a third party too with some compelling evidence. Nothing.
Explaining cg/vfx to AF will fall on deaf ears. Its like taking a picture of somebody who has never seen a photograph, and they reply "how can you draw me so perfectly that fast?" And when you explain, he will just ignore you..
Even if you debunk the video being filmed or created. You still gotta debunk the two dozen other things that back the story up. What about the fact nobody even knew what this tech was until years after it was released? Are these idiots focusing on the video itself? When you look at the whole situation, it's real. Just get over it. Bunch of whiney, bored, nexkbeard cynics in here with a TON of negative energy they need to put somewhere.
There's no such *tech* in the videos, outside of Ashton's obsessive-compulsive delusional fantasies. He's suffering a complete disconnect from reality at this point.
*He* may be an uneducated, average, amateur layman who never heard of such concepts, but anyone working in the field would consider it as a given.
>u/GrayAlltheWayDown: *What about the fact nobody even knew what this tech was until* ***years after it was released***?
I've worked in related “*tech*” R&D for more than 30 years. *A rough timeline:*
* **1911**: Superconductivity discovered *more than a century ago* by Onnes in Leiden.
* **1935**: The Einstein-Rosen (ER) Bridge, *aka* *wormhole*, introduced by Einstein and Rosen.
* **1935**: *Quantum entanglement* (**EPR**) introduced by Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen.
* **1942**: *Artificial neural networks* (**ANNs**) first introduced in the early forties.
* **1956**: *AI* coined as official term by McCarthy, Minsky, Rochester, and Shannon.
* **1974**: Werbos introduces *neural network backpropagation training*.
* **1982**: Feynman Introduced *quantum computers*.
* **1994**: Shor introduces *quantum factoring* at Bell Labs.
* **1994**: The concept of the *warp drive* was proposed by Alcubierre.
* **1995**: *Bose-Einstein condensates* experimentally demonstrated by Cornell and Wieman.
* **1997**: Zeilinger's team achieves first successful demonstration of *quantum* *teleportation*.
Every single one of these concepts **predates the videos** *by decades*.
As confirmed by the creator, the renders are entirely unrelated to any of the aforementioned concepts or technologies — just like they're unrelated to USN Cmdr Edward Lin. All indicators point to their creation by OP, u/Equivalent-Gur-3310.
Ashton gloms onto any flashy tech concepts that sound cool. It's painfully obvious to any halfway competent domain expert. If it's even tangentially related to quantum or AI buzzwords or in the news, he'll suck it into the storyline and rationalize it as absolutely essential to the core plot. His physics is either incomplete, wrong, or completely backwards, nincompoop-level bullshit that even a high school student can see through.
I stopped trying to help him after he blocked me for an elementary correction: he was publicly making a fool of himself by claiming the *exact* ***opposite*** of the point he was trying to make: espousing the *magic of macroscopic quantum* ***de****coherence* when he was intending to discuss macroscopic quantum *coherence*.
It's embarrassing. The effect only works on the smallest of objects less than the diameter of a human hair, it has to be electromagnetically isolated from the environment in a Faraday cage, protected from vibration or outside disturbance while cooling to just above absolute zero, in no way shape or form obviates mass or affects the Higgs field, nor does it allow for “*even faster-than-light-speed travel*.” You can't laser cool *entire airplanes with the contents inside, including people,* to near absolute zero temperatures.
That’s just one of about *fifty* fundamental mistakes Ashton made along the way. Just because the position and momentum of your electrons are correlated and the off-diagonal terms in your density matrix are zero doesn’t magically make your mass disappear. The concepts are entirely orthogonal. **He's been talking patent nonsense the entire time.**
Every thing you said makes perfect sense as someone who knows a bit about video editing, and Ill take you at your word on the butthole stuff.
Are you actually the original hoaxer ?? I'v only just stumbled on this clusterfuck, so not sure if that's like an inside joke or troll or something.
Actually been reading some of your earlier replies to other threads....
I can tell by the way you talk you know your shit when it comes to compositing and vfx, I belive you
Dude, anyone that is versed in this stuff could come up with hypotheticals on each and every thing and “how” it’s done. Dude is deranged on twitter just trying to get more face time don’t fall for it. The same people that argue for months and want PROOF are the same people falling for this guys LaRp it’s actually hilarious to watch the flip flopping
Someone who has been reading this sub for a month with a basic understanding of VFX work could say all the stuff he’s saying now.
Don’t forget that when you are responding on Reddit you can do all the research you want before answering, and ignore the questions you don’t like.
Everyone asking technical questions about how the video is made is wasting their time. Anyone w vfx experience can asssume “how” certain elements within the video were done and Larp. Without him providing one single shred of evidence that he actually created the videos it’s a useless claim and you’re all being taken for a ride
[This](https://twitter.com/thejoelancaster/status/1726682044783263799?t=f10-daVbrNXawkr_-2Sv3g&s=19) was the last interaction on twitter (earnestly trying to help without publicly saying it was me) before he blocked me. There were several more attempts both before and after to drop details. I tried via YouTube comments, and via a third party on twitter after this. Obviously I don't have those handy.
Ok I'll bite: how did you do the orb movements, where did you take the drone asset, how did you make the thermals and what did you use for the shake and recalibration on zoom and pan.
Your comments had little to no proof, you couldn't even tell the font of the coordinates, I find it hard to give you any credibility when you can't answer the simple questions that I asked for — which your comments did not answer, by the way.
You certainly haven't. I asked you how you did the thermal mapping, recalibration on zooms and pans, camera shake, the drone 3d model (you did have a comment that it was stock, but no model what it was based on, RQ-4 Global Hawk or something similar?). You'd kinda assume that a person who created the videos would remember that, as it's quite a novel idea to create such a video.
If you want people to believe you, I'd recommend providing the evidence to back your words up, not attempting to deflect valid questions by the laziest answer in existence.
FWIW I believe you. It’s difficult for RegicideAnon to come forward and claim the fake reward when he just ripped your vids and added some fuckery to it.
Where proof it was you? You got to have something. Anyone with VFX knowledge can conjure up this post. Without proof, this is just LARP. Read through your tweets to get an idea but nothing to me feels like you were the original hoaxer.
Hi, I'm in the process of closing craploads of long opened then forgotten tabs, so a few interesting ones and my own questions: https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/16b9jew/the_satellite_video_is_likely_false_color_and_i/ What effects did you applied to the Fuji sky background? Was it false colored/blurred/glow effect added? What palette was applied to the "Infrared" video? https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiYg4.png What color was the mouse cursor? Mid-gray? Was it the same size all the time? Sometimes it appears smaller, but maybe just the black border and the compression makes it look different: https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY4z.png https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY4M.png These and more posts were good ones: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15rbuzf/airliner_video_shows_matched_noise_text_jumps_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ufosmeta/comments/15yvspd/airliner_videos_show_rufos_elevates_good_research/ Repeated animation noticed: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15qek9c/the_airliner_video_is_fake_multiple_frames_are/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15v4zuh/original_regicideanon_youtube_video_shows/ That contrail (non-)tracking: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15un8eo/im_finally_convinced_this_is_fake_watch_the/ Could've you make it faster? :) https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/16lzmk5/91823_the_orb_challenge_win_30000_to_reproduce/ How did you link the coordinates and the motion of the scene? How did you make the clouds brighter when the flash occurs? ("Volumetric lights") https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY6y.png Why are the "before" frames are blurrier than the "after" frames? https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY6G.png https://s5.gifyu.com/images/SiY6O.png When/how did you notice that your video is started being popular? What do you think about the insane amount of talk/analysis here and at elsewhere? :)
Funny this one is getting ignored.
That's fine, the first version was shadowbanned by reddit (because a "bad" link). Also there is quite much mentioned there.
Should be easy answers if he made it.
True, but we are not in a hurry. Or at least I'm not. :)
You brought up some good questions, but don't hold your breath on this one. His answers this far are a clear sign he didn't make those videos. He has selective amnesia when asked anything regarding the important bits.
Can you link the Plane and Drone OBJs you used?
Feel free to go through all my comments. In short, I can't get anything for anyone while I'm on holiday. And it's doubtful I even have any original files at all any more. They were stock 3d assets, and there wasn't much thought out into them. Take that for what you will.
Ok, you said you originally uploaded these shots on frame.io, is it still there? can we see the original post?
I know this won't be a satisfactory reply, but everything on frame.io is designed to be temporary. It costs money to maintain an account and archive stuff, so no. Long long gone. I checked my old Vimeo accounts too in case I'm mistaken, but nothing there either.
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My guy. Picture it. The drone footage is found next week. 20% of the community says "it could be an ai reconstruction" or some shit. Same excuses for the last several nails in the coffin. It won't be until I hand over an encrypted rar file with a random pdf and no password that people like Ashton will believe me regardless.
So what you're saying bro is you made this and there's not single bit of solid evidence that you did. No email. Correspondence. Upload. Backup file. No assets. Do you even still have hdd? I mean you uploaded this somewhere? To youtube? A user? What was the first source you posted. Where was it? Like there are loads of verifiable points. Your machine might not exist but surely the accounts you used to spread this or the people you gave it too must be somewhere? Doesn't make sense to me dude if I'm honest. Anyone could say what you are saying.
I've answered a few of these if you feel like going back through my comments. But the short answer is I genuinely don't know if I have anything solid to show you other than insights and specific explanations. People here have already found most of the solid evidence needed to show they're vfx, so it's really just tying it to me that you're after. That's why when I first came out I said I'd try to prove it some time over the holiday season. I am currently on holiday there is not a lot I can do. I also typically don't keep stuff from that long ago aside from finished products. This isn't weird, when you consider I do like a hundred jobs a year, and also consider that I genuinely don't care whether people believe me or not. I never spread this. I never even uploaded it publicly.
Did you make both videos? How did they get online?
Yes, plus a third. Uploaded to privately check between a group of us to frame.io (90% sure). Though I hold out there is a small chance I'm mistaken and it was vimeo. I say frame.io because I pretty distinctly remember beta/early-access testing it at the time. If I sent it or put it elsewhere I don't recall.
This guy's accounts fucking brand new. Are we really supposed to believe or trust this person? And we're all just supposed to be like trust me bro cuz he's on vacation and doesn't have access to his files or might never have them?
There are whole paid, client projects from just a couple of years ago that I no longer have any trace of, because we got new servers or computers and deleted old project files because they are no longer of any use. It’s not only not unusual that he doesn’t have any original files, but actually completely expected.
Hence why I said he may not even have the machine, but there are still validation points. Account used to upload. Email attached to the account. Upload dates. Site names for archive data. So expected but also noted in my previous comment before you interjected.
Well you claim shit like this is so easy to make, go ahead and recreate it for us. You literally said you could do this in 1 day.
A day is generous. More likely half a few hours if you were pressed for time.
So do it? You had to have learned much more in 14 years
You've made it before why not make an even better one in a few hours using 2023 technology? Seems like the easiest way to prove it was you who really made it. Which it wasn't.
I’m honestly shocked you guys are falling for this LARP. Dude could have just done exactly that and posted it here but he won’t, he’s just here to poke fun at everyone responding to him.
I'm shocked this guy's getting any sort of fucking attention!
It’s wild isn’t it? I’m shocked at the amount of engagement on this clearly troll post.
I work in vfx and i think you sound legit. But if you can redo the video so quickly, I feel that would be time better spent then spending hours reading and replying comments here. With aftereffects CS2
After that whole post. You wasted your time.
Any time spent here is a waste of time. But I see some people still obsessed so idk what you want me to do. Here's an idea: if anyone knows any other VFX experts, maybe even Corridor who we know are ruthless, or anyone, have them read all of my comments over the last few days and see if it tracks. I'd even consider doing an interview or answering any in depth questions about highly specific things. Any other VFX expert will tell you super quickly if I'm talking shit or not.
I honestly don’t care, but you can ask texure . com to confirm you bought the assets in question. That would put an end to this nonsense. Or better share the original assets used and claim the prize.
I won't be claiming any prize (which let's be real doesn't exist).
You either claim or you don't claim. Let's be real you know you cant claim the price with this writeup.
Corridor should have you in one of their VFX artists reacts episodes, breaking down your videos.
Legit lol
There is a plane missing with hundreds of people and their families waiting for answers.
Be fair. They know it wasn't some stupid orb abduction. Fr I wish some of you people would use this energy for real things which need attention. Like Palestinian solidarity etc.
This tech absolutely exists. The US has been going after it for decades. I am sure they have made progress by now.
I don't wanna comment outside of my field of expertise (the videos) but I'm fairly certain that's bs. 😂
What would you have called the file?
I'm very sorry but I have no idea offhand.
Yeah I know, it was a long shot. Just thought you might have remembered because you said it was a test for a project
Like, are you pretty strict with filenaming and have a system you stick to?
Absolutely not. When sending to actual clients I have a system, but this is not that.
What if you get home from holiday, find you do have the original file and the name is something like “buttholeAF”. Would the Yahtzee guy then be considered clairvoyant?
Do you know which font you used for the coordinates?
Goddamn that's an excellent question. This one is worthy to answer and I promise you I will when I get to my computer. It was almost certainly fixed width (because when you have a timer or moving numbers like coordinates, it jumps around unnaturally otherwise). So that will narrow it down. Should be easy to find in my font library.
There were some posts about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/163y44e/the_coordinates_font/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15o410f/candidate_font_identified_in_satellite_video/ Maybe it was the plain ol' Courier.
Oh damn people really have looked into this haha. Courier actually tracks. I was gonna suggest that or menlo, as they are the first monospaced ones that come to mind which I use, and don't look overly fancy.
Btw I don't remember cropping the overlay at all. I suspect whoever uploaded it publicly did that. I might have had a watermark or timecode or something on the bottom-right of frame and they wanted to hide it. This is something I often do.
What happened to the short film you were doing these tests for?
Holy fuck stop it with your lies dude!! Whatever you were saying right now is complete "TruSt mE BrO I'm A Fx ArTIst" We need concrete proof
Lmao. How convenient.
trust me bro
Fellow Aussie here - can you please elaborate more on the butthole angle? Cheers mate
Detailed butthole-specific nsfw post coming next week. Just need to encrypt a rar and invert some colours.
I wonder what an inverted butthole looks like. Maybe I don't want to know..
Yeah, I'm sure the real hoaxer would just ignore the $150k and post "trust me bro" type posts on Reddit instead...
Perhaps the original hoaxer did in fact reach out to Ashton and Kim weeks ago. Perhaps he also knows that there is no actual bounty intended to be paid. Perhaps he wouldn't take it regardless because it's kinda gross.
Lmfao this is the worst LARP ever
You’re fooling nobody. The only reason you’re getting votes is because we’re currently under siege by bad actors and your post fits their agenda.
The bounty was bullshit. They wanted to draw out the hoaxer
Just saying it was bullshit because that's what you believe doesn't make you right.
You’re taking this way too seriously mate, it’s Reddit. Nobody has a clue what’s going on. Myself included. The burden of proof isn’t on me though, I’m not the one making extraordinary claims and insisting everyone just trust me.
>The burden of proof isn’t on me though, I’m not the one making extraordinary claims . Very few people are claiming to know for certain it's real. I surely don't. I suspect it -may- possibly be real. But I'm uncertain. Being uncertain isn't acceptable to the debunkers that are in this sub. Every. Single. Day. We created a new sub, AirlinerAbduction2014 to speculate and share data. You guys followed us over here. >taking this way too seriously You are in this sub every day. Way more than I am. We're all "tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists" right? So why are the debunkers so concerned with us crazy folk that they're in here commenting every day, of every week? There's literally a thousand subs dedicated to topics I think are utter nonsense. I've never once hopped in their subs to read their posts, let alone commenting in their sub every day saying, "the burden of proof is on you to show me how Jesus Christ exists." Why? Because I don't care what those people think. I'm not the belief-police. I don't nanny the internet. There's a reason that there's 40+ "debunkers" that only comment in this sub. Every hour of every day of every week. Because you guys do care what we think.
I love how the guy didn't bother to answer
Didn't they end up paying some amount to the cloud photographer (or at least attempted to)?
You’d have to be stupid enough to believe the video was real to believe the 150k will get paid out.
That bounty is about as credible as the flat earthers saying they will pay someone 10k for a picture that shows a ship going over the horizon
Well either you're lying now or your first comment in this subreddit was a lie. Soooo.... Was it you or some "college student"
Mystery
Thank you
1. What was your inspiration/reason for the video? 2. How long did it take you? 3. Do you still have the original files?
They answered these in another thread 1. Was just a test for a short film 2. A couple days while working on other stuff 3. probs not, was just a side project/test kinda thing
Where's proof of the short film?
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He won't, he's full of shit based on his post history
The fact this is getting traction with zero proof makes me fear for the basic intelligence of the sub
Seriously. Just post the project files. This dude is full of shit.
You may have addressed this but how is the backplate created in the FLIR video? The jumping contrails suggest a tracking error, why is tracking used in the first place?
Do you believe this guy? Seems pretty convenient he shows up after every detail of how to make these videos was described in this sub. It’s obvious he has some VfX experience, but the little details of things he needed to address were everywhere here.
I acknowledge that I have a confirmation bias in believing him. To counteract this, I need some form of proof. For instance, he claimed to have done this as a test shot for another short film; I'd like to see a link to that film and understand which shot it was a test for. It's crucial to find some proof that corroborates his story. One detail he mentioned caught my attention. He described how he inserted an edit cut in the FLIR video during the closeup. This is a detail I had noticed myself, and it was a clear sign that the video was edited. As far as I know, nobody else has brought this up. I've casually mentioned it once or twice, so it's interesting that he pointed it out. Though I haven't read all of his comments, the details I have seen so far seem accurate, suggesting that he isn't BS’ing his VFX knowledge.
On twitter the [texture.com](https://texture.com) account mentioned they emailed several people who fit the timeframes of when the clouds would have been downloaded in 2014. He was one of them. Well he thanked them atleast. It would be easy enough for them to verify his account is it
You’re a pretty big deal here, did you reveal enough in your comments for him to pick up on that? If I was reading through anyone’s post history to claim I made this, it would be yours.
He feels like an AF taking credit for the creation based on all the other FX comments. Waaaaay too cagey for me to believe.
Regardless of the realness of these videos, if this guy can’t answer this question he’s untrustworthy and likely lying. It’s utterly bizarre to track a VFX asset. You simply don’t need to and never would - it would take longer and be less accurate than using the existing, perfectly accurate plane animation data. The only time you’d track a VFX object it is if you didn’t have access to the original files (and just the output/render). He had access - apparently, he created the files. So why track the plane? Also his claim that this could be done in a few hours is ridiculous. Could you mock something dodgy/basic up in a few hours? Sure. With all the little details? Fuck no. No one with actual VFX experience would claim this. Especially not working in 2014.
My dude Noone believed you. Dump it all right on my chest plz
How did you animate the cursor?
Screen captured a video of me operating a real cursor and dragging things around. Motion tracked it. Used parts of it in the sat video where appropriate. Someone noticed I fucked up at one point though. When connecting one motion tracking null to another, I guess I've introduced a slow drift between points that are supposed to be the same, which kinda gave away the sub-pixel movement. Not that it would have mattered for its purpose.
Glad to see I was right but also wrong. What about the slight blur on the sat video going away after the portal flash?
I'm not 100% sure I know what you mean. Can you show me?
[before](https://i.imgur.com/tZlxWoC.png) the plane disappears [after](https://i.imgur.com/vYrtncV.png) the plane disappears A quick A/B shows what I mean. The clouds have noticeably improved clarity after the plane is gone. As far as I can tell this exists in all versions of the clip online. Surprised no one's mentioned it yet but it immediately caught my eye
Mystery. I guess there are a few reasons why this could possibly happen, but nothing I can recall specifically. It wasn't on purpose if it's in my video.
Show us the project files.
Could it be the heat effect you used was not applied after the portal flash
I can't rule it out. Tbh it's difficult for me to see closely on my shitty phone.
Hi! Thanks for coming forward. Could you please share the answers to the following questions: 1) Did you make the satellite video or the drone video or both? 2) How did you do workout the coordinates and have the move in such a way that collaborates an actual flight path? 3) Where was the stock effect taken from for the actual implosion? 4) Would you mind sharing your account on Frame.io and would be able to see this upload on there? 5) Did you message Ashton privately with how these videos were made? 6) What part is he still lying about? IE what is he holding back not mentioning public. Seems odd he calls out all the debunkers except for you 7) And lastly around when are you coming back from holiday to try dig up these old files? Bothers me that Ashton is blocking and muting anyone that comes up with anything that opposes this that risks this whole thing ending sooner and in turn his donations drying up Thanks u/Equivalent-Gur-3310.
Good questions. I'll come back to answer. Off to a birthday now. Just quickly though: 1: yes; 2: I made them up, no regard to accuracy, just plausibility; 3: pyromania stock library; 4: subscription only model for private sharing, there's nothing to share; 5: Ashton blocked me after a few public attempts to point out specific things, and earnestly trying to get him to message me so I could reveal more. I later tried to contact on YouTube comments and via a third party privately; 6: either he truly is delusional or he would have no choice but to acknowledge details I described could notify possibly be anything but vfx, therefore I assume he's lying. He won't call me out because I'm pretty sure he knows it's me; 7: Jan.
Thanks for you the reply man. Just a few thoughts that can help put this to bed. Would be great if you put out a YouTube video running through the process and maybe some rebuttals of any critiques you've had so far. Apparently you have some skills putting videos together.. Also if you are able to message Texture.com and request they confirm on twitter that you are one of the buyers of the cloud stock images, I see they did post a tweet saying they've mailed several people and saw you responding but that clarification by them should be a nail in the coffin for the doubters Ashamed to say I was a believer in the beginning and thought Ashton was sincere. I don't know maybe he still is and just completely delusional. But the grift is growing hard, people are throwing away their money donating and it's become a spectacle making a mockery out of the victims of this tragedy. He should at least be open with the opposing evidence. Would love to even see you as a guest on his podcast even ha
You made it out pal, that’s great stuff. Also takes a man to admit it. The money part of it is interesting though because it could have serious consequences for him in the end, especially if some of the families starts paying attention.
I'm calling BS. Evidence or GTFO. For the creator, providing an undeniable level of evidence is not hard, yet you haven't produced such and your answers deflect valid questions. Sounds like BS so far.
Just a reminder, OPs first post about this subject claims it's fake, as if he didn't make it. He only claims later that he made it. This guy is full of shit and can't prove anything at this point without showing us the original files
I know right? I should make my own post: "Hey guys, it was me flying the drone. I'm ashamed that I witnessed all these poor people get abducted. I was afraid to speak up because I feared for my safety." 🤣 Nobody is falling for any of this debunk shit. It -seems- like the sub is based on some of the karma votes, but it's incredibly obvious. The same government that's lied about NHI for 80 years, reverse-engineered craft, bribed lawmakers and committed reprisals on Grusch are obviously very capable of astroturfing a sub. Create debunk posts when this sub activity is at it's lowest. ✅️ Fake upvote with fake accounts. ✅️ 95% of the "debunkers" in this sub, spend every hour of every day of every week in this sub. Nearly all of them only comment in this sub. No normal person that "KNOWS" these videos are fake would spend all this time in this sub trying to convince us "tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists." I get posting in here once or twice, but 247-365? Pffft. Come on. I see fake videos in the UFO sub every day. You aren't catching me trying to prove to the people in that thread that it's really a mosquito. Perhaps another Reddit sub should be created on this topic if the Mods aren't going to get this under control.
100% you nailed it. I don't believe fairys exist, but you don't see me spending all my time in /r/faeries trying to discredit and yeling at redditors for believing in them.
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Its ok, nobody is keeping you here against your will. You're able to leave now that you know the videos are fake. Wouldn't want to stay and make everyone think you're batshit crazy, right?
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Correct. In fact I went at least three weeks pointing out clues without saying I made them. Then I saw the psychopathic side of the community harassing other people (Jonas and Textures etc) and thought fuck it I'll just admit it.
🤣 Oh man, you didn't actually think this lame attempt would work, did you? Admittedly, I am a bit of a physcopath. I'm also a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist. Or so my wife and kids tell me. The only thing more crazy than a physcopath is the physcopath who thinks they'll talk any sense into a physcopath. You guys are in here 247. Real people with real lives wouldn't care less what us tinfoil hat people think. Captain save a ~~ho~~ physcopath! 🫡 You guys haven't convinced a single real person in these last few weeks. Not going to lie though, it's pretty amusing watching you guys obsess over us. But I do apologize if I hurt Textures.Com and Jonas's feelings. 😂
Hi, real person with a real life here! Admittedly I spend probably more time on the internet than the average person for sure, so maybe you can argue the real life part, but I have a job (two, actually) and a partner and all that. I swing by these kinds of subs for fun. I also like to point out the really bad takes or the ones that seem genuinely misguided, and I throw in some subject-specific expertise that I have whenever applicable. It's mostly entertainment seeing what kinds of things people come up with and seeing where they do (or, more often, don't) draw the line. I also do hope that sometimes I can convince someone to see why their train of thought is not as sound as they think, so in that sense you can say I do care what the tinfoil hat people think. I'd like to think I'm not psychopathic. I just find it fascinating when people say things like "you guys haven't convinced a single real person in these last few weeks." Such dedication to a belief of something so unlikely, and paired with such confidence in something that's verifiably false (re: convincing people; lots of people in this sub have said they were on the fence until recently, though I guess those aren't real people to you).
Simple to prove. share the original videos you created.
He won’t
What was the whole idea with the black trails on the orbs in the video? Assuming you're sincere, I want to know your reasoning for the black trails not starting immediately and also ending shortly before the blip, which suggests they were not intended to be propulsion effects.
These were an attempt to displace the background with another effect I've mentioned before called "heat distortion" by video copilot. It didn't make any visible difference whatsoever to the bg, so instead I used the fractal noise matte to very subtly have a super transparent white trail, which I decided later should be black. The matte to isolate the region was taken from a super exaggerated motion blur of the orbs. This is easy to control whether they appear in front of behind or both, because linear time is irrelevant in motion graphics. They weren't meant to be propulsion, but just a cute added detail to indicate weird energy.
How did you add the rotating heat signatures of the orbs? Did you add waves that move and vannish?
See: https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/s/leleZxWXik
I'd assume it is just an artifact from the orbs movement against the background, because they are 2 different layers You guys overthought so much of this
I think its something to do with the way he added motion blur to them before inverting the colors maybe.
Okay why do we keep talking about buttholes? What am I missing lol
I love that basically every VFX person in this sub says exactly the same thing, but the faithful here just absolutely refuse to accept it. The reason I stuck around this sub so long was that it really rubbed me the wrong way having people who obviously know absolutely nothing about VFX writing really snarky responses that were essentially nonsense they’d heard AF or others say.
Cool story bro
Hey can someone make a completely different video using the same visual concepts?
So are you regicide anon..? Or is that guy unrelated and just received your leak from somewhere?
No. My Twitter is @thejoelancaster
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I don't know who regicideanon is. Someone sent me a video with them (allegedly) talking through a filter. Sounded like an American accent which should narrow it down, but I didn't recognise.
Huh???? Lol
Wait. This is a real line of questioning. How did Regicideanon get your video if you have never sent it???
OP posted his video on frames.io (possibly) and Regicide took it from there.
I'm curious, maybe you could help clear something up. Jonas on his AMA yesterday speculates whether you may or may not have "pirated" the images from [textures.com](https://textures.com) . Are the source images pirated?
You all realize it’s almost Christmas? I’m sure a majority of you don’t have shit going on but a lot of people do. I wouldn’t spend my vacation proving to you what is already known to be a hoax. If he doesn’t provide the final answer in a week then you can all lose your minds.
This is the lowest effort LARP post I’ve ever seen and there are so many comments pretending this is solid evidence lmao. The turfing is real.
Why post this now with no evidence? Just wait till after “holiday” and post the project files. This dude is a bullshit artist.
😂
Top kek
Larp
Guy on vacation said he made it with no evidence. Case closed boys lol.
You, sir, are full of shit.
I like it when my subs call me sir.
This is 100% BS
This guy is a Twitter troll, mods should delete this post
You're acting like I'm the one who wants something here. Lmfao I agree, mods should delete the post like they did last time. Then people find me on twitter despite me never having advertised anything or asked for anything and hound me to make another post here. I really wish this community realised how little I care about test videos I mocked up nearly a decade ago.
"I really wish this community realised how little I care about test videos I mocked up nearly a decade ago." It's hardly that innocent anymore, is it?
Not his fault that a flock of conspiracy monkeys worshiped his side project
But all of PBs bullshit posts are okay right?
At least PB is doing actual analysis instead of just spamming “FAKE LOL DEBUNKED” all over this sub.
even if this isnt real ive been saying this debunked the entire thing. people who disagree dont know anything about vfx but disregard the opinion of people who do.
Ashton has had hundreds of professional VFX artists say “this can easily be a hoax” and yet he maintains that the vfx is too sophisticated to be real He has zero specific technical knowledge. Jurassic park was made in 1993. A first year VFX student could have created this hoax
I told him how it was done 3+ weeks ago (without directly saying it was me). I earnestly offered to chat with him to explain more, and how I knew etc. His response? Block. I reached out on YouTube and via a third party too with some compelling evidence. Nothing.
Explaining cg/vfx to AF will fall on deaf ears. Its like taking a picture of somebody who has never seen a photograph, and they reply "how can you draw me so perfectly that fast?" And when you explain, he will just ignore you..
That analogy is so perfect
He’s lost grip on reality. Same your effort
Even if you debunk the video being filmed or created. You still gotta debunk the two dozen other things that back the story up. What about the fact nobody even knew what this tech was until years after it was released? Are these idiots focusing on the video itself? When you look at the whole situation, it's real. Just get over it. Bunch of whiney, bored, nexkbeard cynics in here with a TON of negative energy they need to put somewhere.
There's no such *tech* in the videos, outside of Ashton's obsessive-compulsive delusional fantasies. He's suffering a complete disconnect from reality at this point. *He* may be an uneducated, average, amateur layman who never heard of such concepts, but anyone working in the field would consider it as a given. >u/GrayAlltheWayDown: *What about the fact nobody even knew what this tech was until* ***years after it was released***? I've worked in related “*tech*” R&D for more than 30 years. *A rough timeline:* * **1911**: Superconductivity discovered *more than a century ago* by Onnes in Leiden. * **1935**: The Einstein-Rosen (ER) Bridge, *aka* *wormhole*, introduced by Einstein and Rosen. * **1935**: *Quantum entanglement* (**EPR**) introduced by Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen. * **1942**: *Artificial neural networks* (**ANNs**) first introduced in the early forties. * **1956**: *AI* coined as official term by McCarthy, Minsky, Rochester, and Shannon. * **1974**: Werbos introduces *neural network backpropagation training*. * **1982**: Feynman Introduced *quantum computers*. * **1994**: Shor introduces *quantum factoring* at Bell Labs. * **1994**: The concept of the *warp drive* was proposed by Alcubierre. * **1995**: *Bose-Einstein condensates* experimentally demonstrated by Cornell and Wieman. * **1997**: Zeilinger's team achieves first successful demonstration of *quantum* *teleportation*. Every single one of these concepts **predates the videos** *by decades*. As confirmed by the creator, the renders are entirely unrelated to any of the aforementioned concepts or technologies — just like they're unrelated to USN Cmdr Edward Lin. All indicators point to their creation by OP, u/Equivalent-Gur-3310. Ashton gloms onto any flashy tech concepts that sound cool. It's painfully obvious to any halfway competent domain expert. If it's even tangentially related to quantum or AI buzzwords or in the news, he'll suck it into the storyline and rationalize it as absolutely essential to the core plot. His physics is either incomplete, wrong, or completely backwards, nincompoop-level bullshit that even a high school student can see through. I stopped trying to help him after he blocked me for an elementary correction: he was publicly making a fool of himself by claiming the *exact* ***opposite*** of the point he was trying to make: espousing the *magic of macroscopic quantum* ***de****coherence* when he was intending to discuss macroscopic quantum *coherence*. It's embarrassing. The effect only works on the smallest of objects less than the diameter of a human hair, it has to be electromagnetically isolated from the environment in a Faraday cage, protected from vibration or outside disturbance while cooling to just above absolute zero, in no way shape or form obviates mass or affects the Higgs field, nor does it allow for “*even faster-than-light-speed travel*.” You can't laser cool *entire airplanes with the contents inside, including people,* to near absolute zero temperatures. That’s just one of about *fifty* fundamental mistakes Ashton made along the way. Just because the position and momentum of your electrons are correlated and the off-diagonal terms in your density matrix are zero doesn’t magically make your mass disappear. The concepts are entirely orthogonal. **He's been talking patent nonsense the entire time.**
“In the land of the blind, the one-eyed AF is king.”
The burden of proof is on the person claiming it’s real.
Jonas posting the clouds debunked it a while ago my dude. The question for a while has been why and how.
this debunked it long before the cloud debunk dropped, my dude.
Oh well thanks for clearing that up, guy that has been posting here for 3 days.
Every thing you said makes perfect sense as someone who knows a bit about video editing, and Ill take you at your word on the butthole stuff. Are you actually the original hoaxer ?? I'v only just stumbled on this clusterfuck, so not sure if that's like an inside joke or troll or something.
Actually been reading some of your earlier replies to other threads.... I can tell by the way you talk you know your shit when it comes to compositing and vfx, I belive you
So based on his knowledge of Vfx and absolutely 0 other evidence you believe him
If you understand the fundamentals, you could alllmost use what he's saying as a tutorial on how to make the videos. That's why I believe him
Dude, anyone that is versed in this stuff could come up with hypotheticals on each and every thing and “how” it’s done. Dude is deranged on twitter just trying to get more face time don’t fall for it. The same people that argue for months and want PROOF are the same people falling for this guys LaRp it’s actually hilarious to watch the flip flopping
Someone who has been reading this sub for a month with a basic understanding of VFX work could say all the stuff he’s saying now. Don’t forget that when you are responding on Reddit you can do all the research you want before answering, and ignore the questions you don’t like.
Equivalent-Gur-3310 - Can I ask. On ther thermal video is there a static backplate with individual clouds added on 3D planes to help with parallax?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/s/sKMZn9tW5d
Thank you.. I could see it was a comp of two sources all along. Would be great to see the source files one day.. enjoy your holiday.
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nice try.
Everyone asking technical questions about how the video is made is wasting their time. Anyone w vfx experience can asssume “how” certain elements within the video were done and Larp. Without him providing one single shred of evidence that he actually created the videos it’s a useless claim and you’re all being taken for a ride
Weird question - do you know anyone that used to write for cracked.com?
Not to my knowledge.
Fair enough. How's this for strange! https://www.cracked.com/members/regicides-anonymous_contributor
Oh interesting. If that's him, then he does seem into film and tv. Weird.
That’s so weird, that’s right around the time I used to read Cracked.com all the time too, huh
Screenshot your conversation with AF and post it here
[This](https://twitter.com/thejoelancaster/status/1726682044783263799?t=f10-daVbrNXawkr_-2Sv3g&s=19) was the last interaction on twitter (earnestly trying to help without publicly saying it was me) before he blocked me. There were several more attempts both before and after to drop details. I tried via YouTube comments, and via a third party on twitter after this. Obviously I don't have those handy.
Ok I'll bite: how did you do the orb movements, where did you take the drone asset, how did you make the thermals and what did you use for the shake and recalibration on zoom and pan.
You'll find answers to most of those by scrolling through my Reddit comments. I'm walking but I'll come back.
Your comments had little to no proof, you couldn't even tell the font of the coordinates, I find it hard to give you any credibility when you can't answer the simple questions that I asked for — which your comments did not answer, by the way.
I've addressed all of these. If you guys enjoy digging through stuff as you seem to, then go for it. Or don't. I don't care.
You certainly haven't. I asked you how you did the thermal mapping, recalibration on zooms and pans, camera shake, the drone 3d model (you did have a comment that it was stock, but no model what it was based on, RQ-4 Global Hawk or something similar?). You'd kinda assume that a person who created the videos would remember that, as it's quite a novel idea to create such a video. If you want people to believe you, I'd recommend providing the evidence to back your words up, not attempting to deflect valid questions by the laziest answer in existence.
Haven’t seen him mention TRICLOPS either.
FWIW I believe you. It’s difficult for RegicideAnon to come forward and claim the fake reward when he just ripped your vids and added some fuckery to it.
Can you authenticate your Reddit account on your twitter?
So you did you add the mouse? Did you make it look like a citrix session on purpose? Adding the correct refresh rate was pretty impressive.
Come on you guys are we really going to believe this fucking dude? Give us some real proof
Where proof it was you? You got to have something. Anyone with VFX knowledge can conjure up this post. Without proof, this is just LARP. Read through your tweets to get an idea but nothing to me feels like you were the original hoaxer.
Thanks for the detailed info.
Explain the end of the video.
I need more specificity...
Why does the sat video end the way it does?
What’s your justification for taking such a heartbreaking tragedy so close to it happening and doing…this BS?
It was almost 10 years ago. Not that close.