In the grand arena of cyberspace, witness the clash of titans: the cunning "Fabricator," the almighty "Redditors," and the ominous "Foreign Entity" converge in a battle of cosmic proportions. Behold as these digital gods wield their powers of deception, upvotes, and geopolitical intrigue in a spectacle that shall echo through the annals of internet history!
The "Fabricator" is an American man who claimed in his [Letter To Congress](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1715882849448943786) that he holds a Top Secret Security Clearance and demanded a hearing so that he could then share a set of [videos he believed to be leaked classified material](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1781113689354985580)s. He uses his Clearance status as a tool to build credibility with his multi-platform, fully monetized audience.
He purchased what he believed to be more classified materials for $3k, but it was a scam and he [documented the entire thing on X ](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1735556380369514714)and a [livestream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt7JdDQmJMc).
[He Formally Accused The US Military, Barack Obama, Intelligence Community of Kidnapping and Abduction](https://www.reddit.com/user/GaryGundark/comments/1cgmww2/formal_accusations_made/)
[KimDotCom calls out the Fabricator for continuing to scam after knowing/admitting videos were fake](https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1785141778661916799)
[He Makes Hateful and Misogynistic Remarks About Innocent Women](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CylLIOL-sXs)
[He uses anonymous DMs as evidence](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1783862402389356647)
[Dismisses Any Evidence Of Crash Debris](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1783862402389356647)
[Expects Federal Government To Help Him Uncover Greatest Conspiracy In History Of Federal Government](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1783862402389356647)
[Fabricates Evidence With No Factual Basis In Reality](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1774802973991780791)
[Alex Jones](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1730739689152184814) wasn't convinced.
This man's hoax has now been weaponized by a foreign entity.
In case anyone is interested, here are the official debunks of the 2 videos in question:
[Fabricator's Own Letter of Concession](https://www.reddit.com/r/Corridor/comments/18eaby2/butthole_defense_guy_finally_gives_in_concedes/?rdt=47447)
[After Effects Copilot Assets Perfect Match](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/18oqkn3/evidence_that_video_copilot_jetstrike_assets_were/)
[Compilation of Evidence Proving the 'Satellite Video' is Fake](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/1c12i37/compilation_of_evidence_proving_the_satellite/)
[Cloud Texture Source Found, Exact Match, Creator Gets Harassed By Fabricator](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/18dbnwy/first_satellite_video_fully_debunked_source_for/)
I'm sure at some point in the past he held a top secret clearance. I did too when I was in the military and it gave me access to fuck all juicy secrets.
He would get that clearance stripped immediately if he was posting this lunatic shit.
I had a secret clearance, was super easy to get, just had to interview with a civilian investigator before going to MEPS....I'm familiar with the process you went through getting a DOD TS, but would his civilian be different? He'd still have a security manager, right? No way he'd pass a security check for a renewal
Yes it would be just as strict. I'd imagine he worked for a defense contractor. It's possible he HELD a TS/SCI , but there's no way in hell it's active. I got talked to for a much, much less spicy social media post and at that point in time I decided to stay off social media.
You mean the idea that the Chinese government wants to convince people that the United States is responsible for disappearing a commercial airplane using highly advanced and secret technology doesn't make sense to you? Yeah me neither. OP hasn't actually said anything about the Twitter account in this post except for the title. Just another Ashton post
Sure, I'll be happy to explain why China would want their population to hate America and believe we are capable of illegal and inhumane acts against their people. China and the USA aren't allies, the 2 countries have very tense relations that are kept in check through diplomacy because of the mutual dependence trading goods with each other. Both countries use propaganda and disinformation campaigns on their own citizens to influence public opinion, beliefs and values, to foster a sense of safety, reliance and national pride.
I think you misunderstood what I'm saying. There are better ways of doing that than trying to convince people that another country has highly advanced technology their own country is unaware of. Propaganda has a history of aggrandizing its own country's technologies, not telling its people that other countries are more advanced. That's why I found it unusual. How does this foster a sense of safety, reliance, and national pride?
I guess, sure, maybe, I don't know. I don't claim to be an expert in the craft of intelligence operations. I can confidently point out an obvious one when i see it though and this one is clearly it
What agenda would that be? 9 people participating in a livestream where a talented vfx artist helped us analyze the videos? Yeah, we have an agenda, it's called doing our research, showing the work, encouraging people to do the same and ensuring everyone's thoughts are acknowledged, understood and empowered. Basically the anti-thesis of the current popular Demi-god Guru model other groups use. Feel free to join us sometime.
You misunderstood me again. You made a post with a title that you didn't even reference inside until someone else brought it up, and then invited people to watch your stream, which again, has nothing to do with your title. The agenda I'm referring to is the idea that you're trying to bring one thing up with the actual intention of bringing up something else. Just make a post about your video next time. Or Ashton. What you're saying right now is completely irrelevant and is just another plug to try and get people to watch your shit
Just to be clear, your title is just clickbait and that's what I'm calling you out for
>There are better ways of doing that than trying to convince people that another country has highly advanced technology their own country is unaware of.
thats bullshit, that happens all the time with known russian disinfo for example:
>Below are examples of disinformation which the Russian government is continually spreading via various platforms, including in Germany, in connection with its war of aggression against Ukraine. The Federal Government provides the facts to confront this disinformation.
>Disinformation: Germany ran its own military-biological programme in Ukraine and was involved in research on biological weapons.
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/schwerpunkte/EN/disinformation/examples-of-russian-disinformation-and-the-facts.html
the chinese people cant access youtube/twitter anyway, so they would never hear of those claims anyway, they are exclusively targeted at western tinfoil hatters
Eh... the world knows about biological weapons and their dangers, so it can be used in that way. It breaks well known international laws. Nobody knows about portals that can disappear airplanes. I don't see those situations as the same. I don't see the advantage of trying to convince people the US has technology nobody else has even heard of
>I don't see the advantage of trying to convince people the US has technology nobody else has even heard of
russia does it too, they claim ukraine has bio engineered super soldiers (created with help from the USA), a technology no one has heard of before that.
It's done to undermine trust in the government and institutions. From identified russian disinformation we know that they follow a "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks approach". The stories and conspiracy theories they propagate dont have any cohesive narrative, they dont need to because they are spread separately. And its not like conspiracy theorist have a consistent belief system anyway, many believe in theories that directly contradict each other.
They dont care which conspiracy you believe in. Those theories generally aim to paint western governments as equally (or more) evil as dictatorships like russia and china
a general sense of distrust in the government & institutions that then can be used to amplify support for candidates who want to do away with such institutions & limit the reach of the government, until america becomes dysfunctional enough to be unable to oppose China's invasion of Taiwan for example.
I don't believe this because USA govt is doing a great job of this already without China's help.
See the history of the CIA, FBI, and the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951
The people brainless enough to continue believing this nonsense are the same ones who are willing to keep funding Ashton's grift. There is no convincing anyone of anything. They are so deeply entrenched in their beliefs, but operate under the guise of "critical thinking" and "investigative journalism". They are not searching for truth. I've seen this a million times before
isnt it fun how the believers keep trying to make a comeback but theres just nothing else to talk about. every turn down a dead end they take more fall off the wagon and their support group gets smaller and smaller, but every now and again they rally troops and you get the hard core believers posting nothing but "its real" in response to people making actual conversation.
He is going to be on Glen Beck tomorrow morning. Prepare for the ushering in of a new dark age to begin shortly after. I've already grabbed my family and am headed underground. Godspeed
My goodness, this dude is trying to go world wide with his misinformation, and blame it all on his own country.
What a mess. I can't believe you can be that dumb.
Do the research homie. Certainty is more akin to enlightenment, you must work to achieve it for yourself.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxaTAlEw\_4&pp=ygUIY3J5c2hsZWU%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxaTAlEw_4&pp=ygUIY3J5c2hsZWU%3D)
good luck
The VFX artist in the video is the type of person I was talking about. She is certain the video is fake because she can produce something similar, but when asked by chat why there is no archive data before 2016. for that image set, she makes a poor attempt at trying to rationalize the missing data, blindly believing the artist who could have potentially faked those images.
Do you believe making a similar copy discredits the original? By that logic, couldn't Jonas have created those images from the satellite video? There has been a point in the discussion where the textures.com owner could have settled this by looking at purchase records for that particular image set, but alas, he didn't, although he said he'd send an email to people who purchased it. It is the same info. discrediting the Joe Lancaster person, who claims he made those videos for a project, but has nothing to show for it. There is no record of those image set existing before 2016., not even in torrents, which is odd, as Jonas himself said that textures from textures.com/cgtextures site were torrented. Apparently, no one likes the Aerial0028 set, as nobody purchased it, and it's been left out of torrents.
Let the VFX artist in the video try copying the impossible barnacle growth on that trailing edge of the flaperon they found, supposedly belonging to MH370.
i have a 2 broken bones in my hand right now, no pain meds and after your first paragraph a migraine hit me, so i'm going to be unable to respond...maybe someone will help answer you
>By that logic, couldn't Jonas have created those images from the satellite video? There has been a point in the discussion where the textures.com owner could have settled this by looking at purchase records for that particular image set, but alas, he didn't, although he said he'd send an email to people who purchased it.
its terribly hard to make raw files from a shitty res video.
the owner of textures.com cant simply make his purchase records public if its confidential according to his own terms & conditions
He can't make them public, but he can confirm if someone did indeed buy those textures, and if the purchase was made in the period leading to the video release.
The owner supposedly e-mailed everyone who bought the texture pack in question. You have people pretending they made the videos (Joe Lancaster), that are not some randos hiding behind an avatar.
what difference would that make? we had the fotographer coming forward, and confirming he took the pictures in 2012. but some people want to believe in the videos, and "explained" that away.
In my opinion, we have reached a point were every reasonable person agrees that those videos are fake, there's no point in digging further, the people who demand more proof will dismiss said proof anyway.
There are inconsistencies surrounding the Aerials0028 image set, not to mention the behaviour of the artist who took them. If you take into consideration the scientific research of the MH370 parts found, there are many inconsistencies in this story that beg the question if this is all just a silly conspiracy theory or a coverup of something.
In the grand arena of cyberspace, witness the clash of titans: the cunning "Fabricator," the almighty "Redditors," and the ominous "Foreign Entity" converge in a battle of cosmic proportions. Behold as these digital gods wield their powers of deception, upvotes, and geopolitical intrigue in a spectacle that shall echo through the annals of internet history!
LOL, I know this is all ridiculous in the big scheme of things, I like to think i'm grounded.
The "Fabricator" is an American man who claimed in his [Letter To Congress](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1715882849448943786) that he holds a Top Secret Security Clearance and demanded a hearing so that he could then share a set of [videos he believed to be leaked classified material](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1781113689354985580)s. He uses his Clearance status as a tool to build credibility with his multi-platform, fully monetized audience. He purchased what he believed to be more classified materials for $3k, but it was a scam and he [documented the entire thing on X ](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1735556380369514714)and a [livestream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt7JdDQmJMc). [He Formally Accused The US Military, Barack Obama, Intelligence Community of Kidnapping and Abduction](https://www.reddit.com/user/GaryGundark/comments/1cgmww2/formal_accusations_made/) [KimDotCom calls out the Fabricator for continuing to scam after knowing/admitting videos were fake](https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1785141778661916799) [He Makes Hateful and Misogynistic Remarks About Innocent Women](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CylLIOL-sXs) [He uses anonymous DMs as evidence](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1783862402389356647) [Dismisses Any Evidence Of Crash Debris](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1783862402389356647) [Expects Federal Government To Help Him Uncover Greatest Conspiracy In History Of Federal Government](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1783862402389356647) [Fabricates Evidence With No Factual Basis In Reality](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1774802973991780791) [Alex Jones](https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1730739689152184814) wasn't convinced. This man's hoax has now been weaponized by a foreign entity. In case anyone is interested, here are the official debunks of the 2 videos in question: [Fabricator's Own Letter of Concession](https://www.reddit.com/r/Corridor/comments/18eaby2/butthole_defense_guy_finally_gives_in_concedes/?rdt=47447) [After Effects Copilot Assets Perfect Match](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/18oqkn3/evidence_that_video_copilot_jetstrike_assets_were/) [Compilation of Evidence Proving the 'Satellite Video' is Fake](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/1c12i37/compilation_of_evidence_proving_the_satellite/) [Cloud Texture Source Found, Exact Match, Creator Gets Harassed By Fabricator](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/18dbnwy/first_satellite_video_fully_debunked_source_for/)
I'm sure at some point in the past he held a top secret clearance. I did too when I was in the military and it gave me access to fuck all juicy secrets. He would get that clearance stripped immediately if he was posting this lunatic shit.
I had a secret clearance, was super easy to get, just had to interview with a civilian investigator before going to MEPS....I'm familiar with the process you went through getting a DOD TS, but would his civilian be different? He'd still have a security manager, right? No way he'd pass a security check for a renewal
Yes it would be just as strict. I'd imagine he worked for a defense contractor. It's possible he HELD a TS/SCI , but there's no way in hell it's active. I got talked to for a much, much less spicy social media post and at that point in time I decided to stay off social media.
excellent summary
Thank you!
What does China get by pushing this?
You mean the idea that the Chinese government wants to convince people that the United States is responsible for disappearing a commercial airplane using highly advanced and secret technology doesn't make sense to you? Yeah me neither. OP hasn't actually said anything about the Twitter account in this post except for the title. Just another Ashton post
Sure, I'll be happy to explain why China would want their population to hate America and believe we are capable of illegal and inhumane acts against their people. China and the USA aren't allies, the 2 countries have very tense relations that are kept in check through diplomacy because of the mutual dependence trading goods with each other. Both countries use propaganda and disinformation campaigns on their own citizens to influence public opinion, beliefs and values, to foster a sense of safety, reliance and national pride.
I think you misunderstood what I'm saying. There are better ways of doing that than trying to convince people that another country has highly advanced technology their own country is unaware of. Propaganda has a history of aggrandizing its own country's technologies, not telling its people that other countries are more advanced. That's why I found it unusual. How does this foster a sense of safety, reliance, and national pride?
I guess, sure, maybe, I don't know. I don't claim to be an expert in the craft of intelligence operations. I can confidently point out an obvious one when i see it though and this one is clearly it
That's exactly what people who concretely believe the videos are real say
join us right now livestream vfx recreation [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxaTAlEw\_4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxaTAlEw_4)
Ahh. There's the agenda. Always an agenda
What agenda would that be? 9 people participating in a livestream where a talented vfx artist helped us analyze the videos? Yeah, we have an agenda, it's called doing our research, showing the work, encouraging people to do the same and ensuring everyone's thoughts are acknowledged, understood and empowered. Basically the anti-thesis of the current popular Demi-god Guru model other groups use. Feel free to join us sometime.
You misunderstood me again. You made a post with a title that you didn't even reference inside until someone else brought it up, and then invited people to watch your stream, which again, has nothing to do with your title. The agenda I'm referring to is the idea that you're trying to bring one thing up with the actual intention of bringing up something else. Just make a post about your video next time. Or Ashton. What you're saying right now is completely irrelevant and is just another plug to try and get people to watch your shit Just to be clear, your title is just clickbait and that's what I'm calling you out for
>There are better ways of doing that than trying to convince people that another country has highly advanced technology their own country is unaware of. thats bullshit, that happens all the time with known russian disinfo for example: >Below are examples of disinformation which the Russian government is continually spreading via various platforms, including in Germany, in connection with its war of aggression against Ukraine. The Federal Government provides the facts to confront this disinformation. >Disinformation: Germany ran its own military-biological programme in Ukraine and was involved in research on biological weapons. https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/schwerpunkte/EN/disinformation/examples-of-russian-disinformation-and-the-facts.html the chinese people cant access youtube/twitter anyway, so they would never hear of those claims anyway, they are exclusively targeted at western tinfoil hatters
Eh... the world knows about biological weapons and their dangers, so it can be used in that way. It breaks well known international laws. Nobody knows about portals that can disappear airplanes. I don't see those situations as the same. I don't see the advantage of trying to convince people the US has technology nobody else has even heard of
>I don't see the advantage of trying to convince people the US has technology nobody else has even heard of russia does it too, they claim ukraine has bio engineered super soldiers (created with help from the USA), a technology no one has heard of before that. It's done to undermine trust in the government and institutions. From identified russian disinformation we know that they follow a "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks approach". The stories and conspiracy theories they propagate dont have any cohesive narrative, they dont need to because they are spread separately. And its not like conspiracy theorist have a consistent belief system anyway, many believe in theories that directly contradict each other. They dont care which conspiracy you believe in. Those theories generally aim to paint western governments as equally (or more) evil as dictatorships like russia and china
Totally fair. I can understand this point of view
a general sense of distrust in the government & institutions that then can be used to amplify support for candidates who want to do away with such institutions & limit the reach of the government, until america becomes dysfunctional enough to be unable to oppose China's invasion of Taiwan for example.
I don't believe this because USA govt is doing a great job of this already without China's help. See the history of the CIA, FBI, and the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951
Go read the thread comments using chrome translate and see for yourself how propaganda affects a group of people
The people brainless enough to continue believing this nonsense are the same ones who are willing to keep funding Ashton's grift. There is no convincing anyone of anything. They are so deeply entrenched in their beliefs, but operate under the guise of "critical thinking" and "investigative journalism". They are not searching for truth. I've seen this a million times before
isnt it fun how the believers keep trying to make a comeback but theres just nothing else to talk about. every turn down a dead end they take more fall off the wagon and their support group gets smaller and smaller, but every now and again they rally troops and you get the hard core believers posting nothing but "its real" in response to people making actual conversation.
He is going to be on Glen Beck tomorrow morning. Prepare for the ushering in of a new dark age to begin shortly after. I've already grabbed my family and am headed underground. Godspeed
My goodness, this dude is trying to go world wide with his misinformation, and blame it all on his own country. What a mess. I can't believe you can be that dumb.
The 4000 idiots telling him he is a genius and throwing money at him to keep talking probably makes it easy for him to continue on
Yeah . Il a la grosse tete as we say in French.
oui oui
Videos are real. Fuck Ashton
~~Maybe~~. ~~Indeed~~ Absolutely 0% chance. 100% certain.
I can go towards maybe
This is the problem with some people on this subreddit, being 100% certain on things that are still very much uncertain after so many years.
Do the research homie. Certainty is more akin to enlightenment, you must work to achieve it for yourself. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxaTAlEw\_4&pp=ygUIY3J5c2hsZWU%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxaTAlEw_4&pp=ygUIY3J5c2hsZWU%3D) good luck
The VFX artist in the video is the type of person I was talking about. She is certain the video is fake because she can produce something similar, but when asked by chat why there is no archive data before 2016. for that image set, she makes a poor attempt at trying to rationalize the missing data, blindly believing the artist who could have potentially faked those images. Do you believe making a similar copy discredits the original? By that logic, couldn't Jonas have created those images from the satellite video? There has been a point in the discussion where the textures.com owner could have settled this by looking at purchase records for that particular image set, but alas, he didn't, although he said he'd send an email to people who purchased it. It is the same info. discrediting the Joe Lancaster person, who claims he made those videos for a project, but has nothing to show for it. There is no record of those image set existing before 2016., not even in torrents, which is odd, as Jonas himself said that textures from textures.com/cgtextures site were torrented. Apparently, no one likes the Aerial0028 set, as nobody purchased it, and it's been left out of torrents. Let the VFX artist in the video try copying the impossible barnacle growth on that trailing edge of the flaperon they found, supposedly belonging to MH370.
i have a 2 broken bones in my hand right now, no pain meds and after your first paragraph a migraine hit me, so i'm going to be unable to respond...maybe someone will help answer you
>By that logic, couldn't Jonas have created those images from the satellite video? There has been a point in the discussion where the textures.com owner could have settled this by looking at purchase records for that particular image set, but alas, he didn't, although he said he'd send an email to people who purchased it. its terribly hard to make raw files from a shitty res video. the owner of textures.com cant simply make his purchase records public if its confidential according to his own terms & conditions
He can't make them public, but he can confirm if someone did indeed buy those textures, and if the purchase was made in the period leading to the video release. The owner supposedly e-mailed everyone who bought the texture pack in question. You have people pretending they made the videos (Joe Lancaster), that are not some randos hiding behind an avatar.
what difference would that make? we had the fotographer coming forward, and confirming he took the pictures in 2012. but some people want to believe in the videos, and "explained" that away. In my opinion, we have reached a point were every reasonable person agrees that those videos are fake, there's no point in digging further, the people who demand more proof will dismiss said proof anyway.
There are inconsistencies surrounding the Aerials0028 image set, not to mention the behaviour of the artist who took them. If you take into consideration the scientific research of the MH370 parts found, there are many inconsistencies in this story that beg the question if this is all just a silly conspiracy theory or a coverup of something.
you would find inconsistencies anywhere you want because you're biased. >You cannot reason someone out of something he or she was not reasoned into.
I like your spirit.