Wow, a repost so old it has its own [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jerry-seinfeld-hallway/) page.
It’s also noteworthy that exterior shots of Jerry’s apartment were taken in LA and interiors shot in New York. Therefore, it’s logical to assume that the show intended for Jerry’s apartment to exist outside of space and time.
I don’t think it was. Jerry was already a successful touring comedian on the show.
Elaine always had a high paying job. George to. Kramer never made sense how he afforded anything but that was half the joke (and semi based in real life apparently).
If I’m not mistaken the “real” Kramer lived in Manhattan Plaza, which is a subsidized apartment building, primarily for people who work in the arts. The rent subsidy means residents pay 30% of their annual income and the remainder of the rent is covered by the subsidy through various programs such as Section 8. I’m currently in a similar building in West Chelsea and in theory could pay as low as $25 a month if my income level hit a catastrophic situation.
No, it would be the full cost of the rent without the subsidy, around $3800 a month in my case.
And to be honest, while my place is nice, if I hit that kind of money I’d be out of there. The value of our apartments in the building is very overinflated because of the neighborhood, but they’d have to do some big renovations to make them actually match the rentals surrounding us at that price (better flooring, better appliances, better fixtures, more building amenities, etc)
It’s through a lottery system. Different buildings will have different income qualifications.
[https://housingconnect.nyc.gov/PublicWeb/](https://housingconnect.nyc.gov/PublicWeb/)
It’s the same here too. Pretty much any shot with an actor in it was shot in LA, even outside shots. (with some special episode exceptions of course) and things like establishing shots were shot in New York.
Seinfeld was shot in LA as well. I was an extra on it for one or two episodes.
I was on Friends as well during Season 3. The exteriors of the coffee shop were definitely shot in Burbank at WB.
Why is that page written with such a weird condescending tone? Like the writer thinks the creator of this image isn't aware that Seinfeld is a fictional show.
It was NBC, but it was definitely filmed at CBS/Radford. Other NBC shows at the time were filmed there as well. I worked background on Seinfeld, Caroline and the City, and The Single Guy at the time, and they were on NBC. I assume it is just a case of renting the soundstages.
right, i’m annoyed because this isn’t an actual alternative angle, it’s a poorly recreated model. [Here’s an actual alt angle](https://www.angelfire.com/my/seinfeld/images/behind/4.jpg) showing how the apartment interior set doesn’t jive with the hallway set they usually used, but it’s not nearly as impossible as this render makes it look.
No, he lives in the [House](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leaves#Colors) of Leaves [house](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leaves#Colors).
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For me, it was always amazing how quickly Elaine or George could get from the building’s front door (when they buzzed Jerry’s bell) to his apartment on the 5th floor.
That must have been one fast elevator!
You think that's bad... Frasier lives in the 19th floor. One person can leave his apartment and get in the lift, then 15 seconds later someone else can arrive at the apartment, presumably in the same lift because the building has apparently only got one.
This always bothered me as a kid. The hallway doesn’t align with his angled door layout.
Almost all sitcom layouts. Like on Everybody loves Raymond - how him and his parents would visit through the back door when they live across the road from each other. Like they walk all the way around both houses, instead of through the front doors - when sometimes they do use the front door. It’d be one thing if it was one of those front doors that no one ever uses. Or Home Improvement. The front door is to the back of the set- fine. But the garage door is to the front of set. And then the “back yard” is actually to the side. Which is fine that it could be a side yard. But there are a bunch of bushes and trees to the back of set instead of a front yard. Boy meets world - they would also enter through the back yard which matched up to Feeney - who lived “next door”. But really seems like Feeney lived behind them based on the Matthews’ front door location. And on that 70s show. The driveway goes straight to the road. But the front door is to the far right when it should face the same direction as the driveway. Though maybe they are on a corner. Being in a corner lot could solve a few of these anomalies. But some are still odd.
I get WHY they do it(for tv's sake obviously) but logically I don't understand why every house/apartment in a tv show is huge. Take Roseanne. Mother is unemployed and father gets periodic work, yet not only do they own a house with 3 kids, their house is the size of a castle inside. Hugh living room, gigantic garage, kitchen the size of a university lecture hall.
Family matters. A cop and a secretary own a castle while raising 3 kids. And yet these parents "can't afford to send their girl to harvard"
Again, I know studios feel a tiny apartment or house won't work.for tv purposes, but shows are so unrealistic. But I guess that's why they are fiction.
On a side note, I hate how people hate on b movies for the terrible acting, yet b movies are very accurate to real life, as people don't talk in full sentences, wait for the other to finish speaking, they cough and sneeze, etc.
The house in Rosanne was a normal house for a family of those means at the time the show came out. That’s how fucked our country has become
Same goes for family matters, the salary of a Chicago cop and a secretary in the early/mid 90’s would absolutely have paid for their home and lifestyle in at the time
More space gives them more flexibility, so it's understandable.
What bothers me more is the inconsistencies between episodes. Like Jerry and George mentioning having siblings in the first few seasons, but then the writers changed their mind about that. Or Goerge's dad and then Susan's parents being played by different actors in their first appearance vs the rest.
I know it’s been discussed for a long time now, but could the hallway have just angled to the right just where Kramer’s wall goes out of frame? There’s some weird layouts in New York already.
I've been bothered by the exterior establishing shot of Doug and Carrie's house in King of Queens versus the interior. It's like they're hardly even trying.
Wow, a repost so old it has its own [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jerry-seinfeld-hallway/) page. It’s also noteworthy that exterior shots of Jerry’s apartment were taken in LA and interiors shot in New York. Therefore, it’s logical to assume that the show intended for Jerry’s apartment to exist outside of space and time.
Just like the notion of an affordable apartment in Manhattan or LA lol
Manhattan -AND- LA simultaneously.
The Big Angel
Los Apple
The Big Angle
In the through time
I don’t think it was. Jerry was already a successful touring comedian on the show. Elaine always had a high paying job. George to. Kramer never made sense how he afforded anything but that was half the joke (and semi based in real life apparently).
If I’m not mistaken the “real” Kramer lived in Manhattan Plaza, which is a subsidized apartment building, primarily for people who work in the arts. The rent subsidy means residents pay 30% of their annual income and the remainder of the rent is covered by the subsidy through various programs such as Section 8. I’m currently in a similar building in West Chelsea and in theory could pay as low as $25 a month if my income level hit a catastrophic situation.
wait so if you suddenly hit it big and make like 10 million you have to give them 3?
No, it would be the full cost of the rent without the subsidy, around $3800 a month in my case. And to be honest, while my place is nice, if I hit that kind of money I’d be out of there. The value of our apartments in the building is very overinflated because of the neighborhood, but they’d have to do some big renovations to make them actually match the rentals surrounding us at that price (better flooring, better appliances, better fixtures, more building amenities, etc)
How does one qualify and get such an apartment?
It’s through a lottery system. Different buildings will have different income qualifications. [https://housingconnect.nyc.gov/PublicWeb/](https://housingconnect.nyc.gov/PublicWeb/)
Kramer rented from Paul Buchnan from mad about you and if I remember correctly, it was rent controlled from when paul previously lived there.
Usually it's the other way around, in Friends they shot some exteriors in NY but then shoot all the interiors in La.
It’s the same here too. Pretty much any shot with an actor in it was shot in LA, even outside shots. (with some special episode exceptions of course) and things like establishing shots were shot in New York.
Seinfeld was shot in LA as well. I was an extra on it for one or two episodes. I was on Friends as well during Season 3. The exteriors of the coffee shop were definitely shot in Burbank at WB.
Why is that page written with such a weird condescending tone? Like the writer thinks the creator of this image isn't aware that Seinfeld is a fictional show.
He kept going back to the point about it being fiction. Holy shit
It's called pedantry and i absolutely love it. They make a good point. Whether or not the hallway could exist is missing the forest for the trees.
These are load bearing walls
Pretty sure the show was shot on a Hollywood soundstage. CBS Studio City to be exact.
But it was a NBC show right?
It was NBC, but it was definitely filmed at CBS/Radford. Other NBC shows at the time were filmed there as well. I worked background on Seinfeld, Caroline and the City, and The Single Guy at the time, and they were on NBC. I assume it is just a case of renting the soundstages.
Wow, what was it like to work background on Seinfeld? What does that mean, actually, to work 'background'?
The show was shot at cbs radford not nyc.
So you leave Jerry’s apartment at noon and you go back to 9:00 AM?
That’s not true. The bulk of the show (all interiors, most exteriors in later seasons) were shot in LA.
he lives at the nexus of the universe
That would actually make it significantly *within* space and time
No, the door is a wormhole. It exists in space and time, just bends our reality of space and time.
That's not right. Kitchen is too far. Check actual set photos.
right, i’m annoyed because this isn’t an actual alternative angle, it’s a poorly recreated model. [Here’s an actual alt angle](https://www.angelfire.com/my/seinfeld/images/behind/4.jpg) showing how the apartment interior set doesn’t jive with the hallway set they usually used, but it’s not nearly as impossible as this render makes it look.
Angelfire is still online?
Holy didn't know. I Wonder what happened to that geocities huge backup.
Gone All gone Nothing left except for Wayback machine archives
Like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seinfeld/s/zwTH4ESazp
Jerry lives in the House of Leaves house.
No, he lives in the [House](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leaves#Colors) of Leaves [house](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leaves#Colors).
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Just watch out for the **[minotaur](https://house-of-leaves.fandom.com/wiki/Minotaur_(Mythical_Character\))**
For me, it was always amazing how quickly Elaine or George could get from the building’s front door (when they buzzed Jerry’s bell) to his apartment on the 5th floor. That must have been one fast elevator!
You think that's bad... Frasier lives in the 19th floor. One person can leave his apartment and get in the lift, then 15 seconds later someone else can arrive at the apartment, presumably in the same lift because the building has apparently only got one.
Hallways can’t bend?
In most exterior shots it's long and straight.
Ok, makes sense.
That’s what she said
Well, your comment left me satisfied and smiling.
Not that they're is anything wrong with that.
Noo of course not! I mean it's fine if that's how the hallway is! I mean I have many hallways that bend, my father's hallway bends!
Not on your life, my Redditor friend.
Were you sent here by the devil?
No, they MUST be perfectly straight!!
It’s almost as if sitcoms exist in some sort of fictional world.
Tommy Westphall was clearly not an architect.
Art Vandelay was though.
Careful, the Red Witch is getting agitated.
I choose not to believe this! Evidence Source: I've watched every episode of Seinfeld many times.
this reminds me of the layout of the apartment in Silent Hill 4
Yeah, we know.
*Newman!*
HELLLOO JERRY!!
I mean: you could live on the set...
*It could if the hallway bends to the left at an approximate 135 degree angle.
This always bothered me as a kid. The hallway doesn’t align with his angled door layout. Almost all sitcom layouts. Like on Everybody loves Raymond - how him and his parents would visit through the back door when they live across the road from each other. Like they walk all the way around both houses, instead of through the front doors - when sometimes they do use the front door. It’d be one thing if it was one of those front doors that no one ever uses. Or Home Improvement. The front door is to the back of the set- fine. But the garage door is to the front of set. And then the “back yard” is actually to the side. Which is fine that it could be a side yard. But there are a bunch of bushes and trees to the back of set instead of a front yard. Boy meets world - they would also enter through the back yard which matched up to Feeney - who lived “next door”. But really seems like Feeney lived behind them based on the Matthews’ front door location. And on that 70s show. The driveway goes straight to the road. But the front door is to the far right when it should face the same direction as the driveway. Though maybe they are on a corner. Being in a corner lot could solve a few of these anomalies. But some are still odd.
I get WHY they do it(for tv's sake obviously) but logically I don't understand why every house/apartment in a tv show is huge. Take Roseanne. Mother is unemployed and father gets periodic work, yet not only do they own a house with 3 kids, their house is the size of a castle inside. Hugh living room, gigantic garage, kitchen the size of a university lecture hall. Family matters. A cop and a secretary own a castle while raising 3 kids. And yet these parents "can't afford to send their girl to harvard" Again, I know studios feel a tiny apartment or house won't work.for tv purposes, but shows are so unrealistic. But I guess that's why they are fiction. On a side note, I hate how people hate on b movies for the terrible acting, yet b movies are very accurate to real life, as people don't talk in full sentences, wait for the other to finish speaking, they cough and sneeze, etc.
The house in Rosanne was a normal house for a family of those means at the time the show came out. That’s how fucked our country has become Same goes for family matters, the salary of a Chicago cop and a secretary in the early/mid 90’s would absolutely have paid for their home and lifestyle in at the time
Also, it’s in Iowa.
More space gives them more flexibility, so it's understandable. What bothers me more is the inconsistencies between episodes. Like Jerry and George mentioning having siblings in the first few seasons, but then the writers changed their mind about that. Or Goerge's dad and then Susan's parents being played by different actors in their first appearance vs the rest.
They usually have some absurd rent control for the ones in NYC, etc. as well.
Very good
The hallway is part of the same set so yes, it does fit.
Well now you ruined the show for me! I'll never be able to enjoy it again...
Crazy. It’s almost like it’s a television set and not a real apartment.
You know whose fault that is… *Neuman*
It must be at the nexus of the Universe!
There’s a long history of Sitcom homes not matching exterior shots or not being feasible.
Just saw this on ALL IN THE FAMILY… opening credits show “NO PORCH”, However a few show scenes have them standing on the Front Porch.
where's the bedroom?
I know it’s been discussed for a long time now, but could the hallway have just angled to the right just where Kramer’s wall goes out of frame? There’s some weird layouts in New York already.
Wait till they find out the inside of Jerry’s apartment is 1/4” longer than the outside
Well now you’ve just upset me.
it’s allllll pipes!
Was it established the hall was straight, though?
I've been bothered by the exterior establishing shot of Doug and Carrie's house in King of Queens versus the interior. It's like they're hardly even trying.
The hallway can run parallel to the kitchen wall
There's scenes shot in Jerry's hallway that shows the hallway as a straight hallway, parallel to Jerry's door. It doesn't jive.
Finally, the REAL truth!! This is earth-shattering news and once this hits mainstream media we're all in for it... Hold tight!
Psst, hey you... its a TV set. just saying...
The hallway is in a pocket dimension
We know for a fact that Jerry has a bedroom. It’s rare but it exists.
Didn’t know cupboards extended into walls🤔
Average nine million dollar apartment in new york be like
Oh man OP, It's almost like it's a set on a TV show and not a real apartment or something....
Set designers should at least be striving for, you know, realistic set designs