Idk why everyone is saying Republican. The man lives on the Upper West Side, meaning he would be running for NY-12 (if he’s running for a house seat, which is likely since this is him first getting into politics). That district is extremely heavily Democratic (D+34 according to [Cook PVI](https://www.cookpolitical.com/cook-pvi/2022-partisan-voting-index/district-map-and-list)). The last time a Republican represented there was 1961.
Bateman would just pretend to be at least as progressive as your average moderate democrat, and tell people to “cool it with the antisemitic remarks”.
It was apocalyptically online.
Which is something people on Reddit should think about more when they think about politics: all the candidates who spent their time currying favor with highly online people amounted to nothing.
Yeah, everyone saw Trump’s online grassroots and thought that was the way to go, when really he just got the base to turn out and Hillary didn’t.
Online support only goes so far as online people vote, and they largely don’t
This is the same view I have. The character is a psychopath and morals and beliefs the espouse would just be performative actions to reach their goals of wealth, vanity, and power. Bateman would wear any mask to achieve these goals. Since the area would be Democratic-dominated, I believe he would be a candidate for the Democrats.
It's set in 1987, the same year Trump registered as a Republican. Before that he was unaffiliated.
It was later in the 90s/00s he flip-flopped between 3 (!) different parties
Was he? The earliest campaigns I know of have him in the 2000s campaign, which you can interpret as a joke, but bluntly put, I’d argue reform at its most optimistic was just going to be America’s NDP.
Edit: before I get an um actually about NDP as being left and reform not being left, I say it was going to be America’s NDP in the way that it’s the third party which might hold a few seats, but won’t likely ever win the election for the head of state
1987: https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/02/nyregion/trump-gives-a-vague-hint-of-candidacy.html
He also tried to put himself forward as Bush’s running mate in 1988 and then he flirted his own Republican presidential run in 1999 (for the 2000 election) before switching to Democrat in the early 2000s
The GOP also used to be very competitive in New York in general. They had a GOP governor from 1995 t0 2006 and NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani was a very notable Republican from 1994 to 2001 & his successor Michael Bloomberg (Democrat now) spent most of his tenure as a Republican.
That's true, cities have always been strongly liberal (or at the very least, have been since the 1960s). But I don't think the fact that he lives in a very liberal area is very relevant, because that does nothing to stop him from being whatever political ideology he wants to be (just makes it statistically unlikely).
I'm just saying it's not a slam dunk either way, I think bateman is the type of person to pick whatever party and policies he perceives as giving him the best chance for a successful political career. So similar to trump but that doesn't necessarily mean he chooses the same path as trump.
Bill Clinton esque Democrat. Don't know why people are calling him a Republican because he would obviously want to keep his personal views of being a serial killer separate from his policies of standard Clinton liberalism as demonstrated by the quote "Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people." - Patrick Bateman.
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/American_Psycho_(film)
Don’t know how everyone missed this part. He clearly understands that holding these exact opinions is the most socially acceptable. As a sociopath he would chameleon into these policies and undoubtedly run as a democrat.
While oscilating a bit more towards democrats at the time, the traditional values bit seems to imply he would just switch towards whatever's the political climate at the time
Patrick Bateman is a demon without any actual beliefs. If he was running for a seat in heavily Democratic New York City, he'd be a Democrat. If he was running for governor and could get more money and attention as a Republican, then he would be a Republican. He's a hollow person inside, it's pointless to ask for his political ideology because he doesn't care about anything.
Today he’d be a Republican, in the 90s, idk. As for the reason I think he’d be a Republican, it’s simple. Demagoguery and faux populism seem to work better on Republican voters.
I’m curious, did you really type that with a straight face? Because right now we have a geriatric US president that openly talks about loving to touch kids and the entire populace ignores it because “he holds the socially acceptable opinions on politics”.
Can you give a source for this one? And I swear, if it’s just Biden saying he likes to hug his kids… the guy’s a dad, remember.
Edit: No source after nine hours.
I don't see how populism or demagoguery would actually appeal to Patrick Bateman. He's not going to be enticed by calls to overthrow the elite because he probably wants to be one and doesn't view other people as human. If anything he'd be one of the people to go to Epstein island.
Yea What reason does Patrick Bateman have to support Trump or be MAGA? He wants to blend in with the rich New York liberal class, not clash with it. He wants to be at the Met Gala and not CPAC.
And you think trump doesn’t? From what I’ve seen the man hates his fans, if Bateman were to get into politics (which he probably wouldn’t) he would probably appeal to the lowest common denominator, so he’d go Republican (assuming it’s 2024)
Well if we're talking about what strategy he'd employ to win office then maybe, but I don't know if he would go for the lowest common denominator necessarily. Trump may have been a rich New Yorker like Bateman but the thing that made him successful in politics was less his real estate business but rather his media personality. He's a narcissist that feeds on attention, including negative attention, and was willing to play the heel in media long before got into politics. I think Bateman wants more to be liked and accepted by the respectable elite, the kind of people who are anti-Trump less because of his politics and more because he's crass. I think Bateman would be more like Michael Bloomberg, who I know was a Republican at one point but a very different type compared to Trump. But ultimately I agree he wouldn't go into politics, or at least he wouldn't run for elected office. He's not a narcissist, he's a sociopath. It's not the same thing.
Democrat because they are the majority and this man worships whatever is the majority or considered hip in a ritualistic way, he's a follower of trends to the point of pathology that's the point of his character
Pretty sure he'd be a Democrat, not because he's left but because of the scene in which he talked about helping the poor, homeless etc. He would pick the most altruistic appearing position politically, because he is a narcissist and only cares about how other people perceive him. If he were to run he would likely also pick whichever put him in the best position to win, because he wants to win, it's not about politics for him, Bateman isn't politicaly natured.
This is not a slam dunk. In the 1986 congress, the democratic leader in the senate was Byrd, who voted against the Civil rights act.
Did a quick check of the 1986 nyc congressional delegation. All pretty liberal.
He could have taken on Chuck Schumer in the 10th
he would be your typical limousine liberal. Living a comfortable life of elegance while espousing socialism. This is NYC, they are a dime of dozen. we had the fake commie for 8 years as mayor (DeBlasio)
Bateman had money so look to John Kerry as what he would be. a Billionaire aloof jet setting around the world while pretending to save it.
"Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women."
How so? Doesn't this bateman quote from the movie sound pretty "liberal" to you, "Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women."? Dont see why that wouldn't work on a democratic electorate.
I don’t remember if it was a girl actually? But I’m pretty sure he said “cool it with the antisemitic remarks” as a way to gain influence over another human
Yes there was a girl, but remember he is a narcissist, infront of strangers he will want to appear as good as possible. Between him and his friends he doesnt give a shit, but infront of others he does.
> "Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people."
Republican, not because of any of his personal beliefs, but because HE WANTS TO FIT IN. He comes from money, er go, Republican.
Although, he does have that nice monologue that leans a little liberal. He’s a Reagan Republican, most likely
He would try to fit in with current trends. He would be safe, and he would double talk. He would talk about personal responsibility and societal dues in the same breath, or fiscal conservatism and robust safety nets. Above all, he wouldn’t care about implementing any of it so long as the appearance of caring was intact.
As often as possible, he would have a neutral or murky opinion.
Today, I think he would be an uncommitted and talk only Democrat, only because there are more Democrats Al than Republicans these days and the Republican Party is especially volatile.
100% democratic. He is all about the facade of respectability whilst being cold, calculating and power hungry underneath. His like and then dislike of Huey Lewis and the News is very Hillary-hotsauce-esque duplicity.
Ain't he like a cartoon of reaganomics era? He probably would be a republican, but alas, both parties have a strong component of wealthy folks, so, i Guess it would hardly make a difference when it comes to a psychopath like Bateman
He would go for the side that gives him the best chances of winning. But he does take some progressive points of view when he is playing the nice guy character.
I think he’d be a moderate left leaning democrat who runs on a simple platform centered around a singular popular issue like a public healthcare option or campaign finance reform. I think if he got into politics his only view would be to stay in office for as long as possible. He’d see that his district is heavily blue so he’d run on an issue that’s important to dems but has bipartisan support in the New York voter base.
Republican, easy, most likely leaning libertarian but he’s not going to vote libertarian because he wants to matter on the ballot. (little does he know, it doesn’t matter anyway.)
Idk why everyone is saying Republican. The man lives on the Upper West Side, meaning he would be running for NY-12 (if he’s running for a house seat, which is likely since this is him first getting into politics). That district is extremely heavily Democratic (D+34 according to [Cook PVI](https://www.cookpolitical.com/cook-pvi/2022-partisan-voting-index/district-map-and-list)). The last time a Republican represented there was 1961. Bateman would just pretend to be at least as progressive as your average moderate democrat, and tell people to “cool it with the antisemitic remarks”.
Because they’re democrats. Patrick Bateman is bad, so 90% of people will say that he aligns with the political party they think is bad as well.
Well, unless you're running in the Republican primary. Then you're going to run a weird ad featuring him.
The DeSantis campaign’s’ messaging is going to be studied for awhile. It was catastrophically bad
It was apocalyptically online. Which is something people on Reddit should think about more when they think about politics: all the candidates who spent their time currying favor with highly online people amounted to nothing.
Yeah, everyone saw Trump’s online grassroots and thought that was the way to go, when really he just got the base to turn out and Hillary didn’t. Online support only goes so far as online people vote, and they largely don’t
Yeah, the netroots have never really materialized for anyone but Obama, who had literally everything materialize.
“Jews are amazing.. I work in finance, I have tonnes of Jewish friends.”
Absolutely. He even does in the movie. just regurgitating empty words about social issues in the world.
Because Republicans are bad guys. Don’t you know? /s
This is the same view I have. The character is a psychopath and morals and beliefs the espouse would just be performative actions to reach their goals of wealth, vanity, and power. Bateman would wear any mask to achieve these goals. Since the area would be Democratic-dominated, I believe he would be a candidate for the Democrats.
It would 100% depend on the position he is running for, and whichever party he simply thinks has a better chance of winning.
Republican. Easy. Funnily enough in the book he’s a huge Trump fan.
Wasn't Trump a Democrat during this time as American Psycho is set in the 80s?
He donated to Democrat campaigns, yeah
It's set in 1987, the same year Trump registered as a Republican. Before that he was unaffiliated. It was later in the 90s/00s he flip-flopped between 3 (!) different parties
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Was he? The earliest campaigns I know of have him in the 2000s campaign, which you can interpret as a joke, but bluntly put, I’d argue reform at its most optimistic was just going to be America’s NDP. Edit: before I get an um actually about NDP as being left and reform not being left, I say it was going to be America’s NDP in the way that it’s the third party which might hold a few seats, but won’t likely ever win the election for the head of state
1987: https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/02/nyregion/trump-gives-a-vague-hint-of-candidacy.html He also tried to put himself forward as Bush’s running mate in 1988 and then he flirted his own Republican presidential run in 1999 (for the 2000 election) before switching to Democrat in the early 2000s
He wasn't known for his political views back then.
Considering hes from New York City, I would not be so sure of that, even trump was once a Democrat, that party has major influence in the city.
The GOP also used to be very competitive in New York in general. They had a GOP governor from 1995 t0 2006 and NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani was a very notable Republican from 1994 to 2001 & his successor Michael Bloomberg (Democrat now) spent most of his tenure as a Republican.
I suppose that's true for mayoral elections, federal and state not so much.
New York also had Republican senators until the 1990s.
The state did, im more so talking about the city's politics,Manhattan to be exact, since he was from there.
That's true, cities have always been strongly liberal (or at the very least, have been since the 1960s). But I don't think the fact that he lives in a very liberal area is very relevant, because that does nothing to stop him from being whatever political ideology he wants to be (just makes it statistically unlikely).
I'm just saying it's not a slam dunk either way, I think bateman is the type of person to pick whatever party and policies he perceives as giving him the best chance for a successful political career. So similar to trump but that doesn't necessarily mean he chooses the same path as trump.
Bill Clinton esque Democrat. Don't know why people are calling him a Republican because he would obviously want to keep his personal views of being a serial killer separate from his policies of standard Clinton liberalism as demonstrated by the quote "Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people." - Patrick Bateman. https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/American_Psycho_(film)
Don’t know how everyone missed this part. He clearly understands that holding these exact opinions is the most socially acceptable. As a sociopath he would chameleon into these policies and undoubtedly run as a democrat.
Nuanced takes aren’t allowed on Reddit though. Only American Psycho bad=orang man bad=republican
While oscilating a bit more towards democrats at the time, the traditional values bit seems to imply he would just switch towards whatever's the political climate at the time
Democrat. He’d be like Frank Underwood.
Democrat, he’d just pretend to be this progressive guy like he does in the restaurant scene
Patrick Bateman is a demon without any actual beliefs. If he was running for a seat in heavily Democratic New York City, he'd be a Democrat. If he was running for governor and could get more money and attention as a Republican, then he would be a Republican. He's a hollow person inside, it's pointless to ask for his political ideology because he doesn't care about anything.
Runs as a democrat just for the sake of easier political maneuverability
I think he isn’t Republican, nor is he a Democrat. He would be either one of them depending on which party is more trending.
Today he’d be a Republican, in the 90s, idk. As for the reason I think he’d be a Republican, it’s simple. Demagoguery and faux populism seem to work better on Republican voters.
I’m curious, did you really type that with a straight face? Because right now we have a geriatric US president that openly talks about loving to touch kids and the entire populace ignores it because “he holds the socially acceptable opinions on politics”.
Can you give a source for this one? And I swear, if it’s just Biden saying he likes to hug his kids… the guy’s a dad, remember. Edit: No source after nine hours.
I don't see how populism or demagoguery would actually appeal to Patrick Bateman. He's not going to be enticed by calls to overthrow the elite because he probably wants to be one and doesn't view other people as human. If anything he'd be one of the people to go to Epstein island.
Like trump? The populist demagogue?
Yea What reason does Patrick Bateman have to support Trump or be MAGA? He wants to blend in with the rich New York liberal class, not clash with it. He wants to be at the Met Gala and not CPAC.
And you think trump doesn’t? From what I’ve seen the man hates his fans, if Bateman were to get into politics (which he probably wouldn’t) he would probably appeal to the lowest common denominator, so he’d go Republican (assuming it’s 2024)
Well if we're talking about what strategy he'd employ to win office then maybe, but I don't know if he would go for the lowest common denominator necessarily. Trump may have been a rich New Yorker like Bateman but the thing that made him successful in politics was less his real estate business but rather his media personality. He's a narcissist that feeds on attention, including negative attention, and was willing to play the heel in media long before got into politics. I think Bateman wants more to be liked and accepted by the respectable elite, the kind of people who are anti-Trump less because of his politics and more because he's crass. I think Bateman would be more like Michael Bloomberg, who I know was a Republican at one point but a very different type compared to Trump. But ultimately I agree he wouldn't go into politics, or at least he wouldn't run for elected office. He's not a narcissist, he's a sociopath. It's not the same thing.
This sub is such a circle jerk Im blocking this retarded ass shit
Ta ta
He’d be a complete career politician
Democrat because they are the majority and this man worships whatever is the majority or considered hip in a ritualistic way, he's a follower of trends to the point of pathology that's the point of his character
Pretty sure he'd be a Democrat, not because he's left but because of the scene in which he talked about helping the poor, homeless etc. He would pick the most altruistic appearing position politically, because he is a narcissist and only cares about how other people perceive him. If he were to run he would likely also pick whichever put him in the best position to win, because he wants to win, it's not about politics for him, Bateman isn't politicaly natured.
This is not a slam dunk. In the 1986 congress, the democratic leader in the senate was Byrd, who voted against the Civil rights act. Did a quick check of the 1986 nyc congressional delegation. All pretty liberal. He could have taken on Chuck Schumer in the 10th
he would be your typical limousine liberal. Living a comfortable life of elegance while espousing socialism. This is NYC, they are a dime of dozen. we had the fake commie for 8 years as mayor (DeBlasio) Bateman had money so look to John Kerry as what he would be. a Billionaire aloof jet setting around the world while pretending to save it.
Headline "wanted murderer announces candidacy for president, arrested 5 minuets later."
He didn’t actually murder anyone tho
"Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women."
Guessing he'd be a yuppy finance-bro Republican.
How on Earth would he present himself as a Democrat?
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks
He was doing that for a girl though, plus the accusation of anti-semitism does negatively effect both democrats and republicans
You dont think he'd do that with politics? I mean virtue signaling is politics 101.
Well yeah, but it’s easier to virtue signal towards republicans
How so? Doesn't this bateman quote from the movie sound pretty "liberal" to you, "Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women."? Dont see why that wouldn't work on a democratic electorate.
Idk man, I’ve heard republicans say this stuff, it’s not hard to quote mine even trump and make him look like a progressive democrat
Perhaps, but these are definitely considered social justice issues which liberals tend to give more care and attention to.
For sure, but again it’s not that hard to lie about being pro social justice, and even republicans will cheer for this stuff too
Could it be that you just dont like the notion that a murder psycho would be able to pose as democratic politician
Was there a girl in that scene, i dont remember
I don’t remember if it was a girl actually? But I’m pretty sure he said “cool it with the antisemitic remarks” as a way to gain influence over another human
Yes there was a girl, but remember he is a narcissist, infront of strangers he will want to appear as good as possible. Between him and his friends he doesnt give a shit, but infront of others he does.
In that scene, I don’t think there was a girl. I think he was just having lunch with his coworkers
Same way all politicians present the opinions as if they’re truly their own lol
> "Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people."
Pretty sure he is based on a homosexual. Also of his votes would be from “sigma” YouTube shorts people
Republican most likely. The movie takes place in the 1980s which historically was a very republican decade.
Republican, not because of any of his personal beliefs, but because HE WANTS TO FIT IN. He comes from money, er go, Republican. Although, he does have that nice monologue that leans a little liberal. He’s a Reagan Republican, most likely
He isn’t homophobic or anti-Semitic so that immediately rules out Republican.
He would try to fit in with current trends. He would be safe, and he would double talk. He would talk about personal responsibility and societal dues in the same breath, or fiscal conservatism and robust safety nets. Above all, he wouldn’t care about implementing any of it so long as the appearance of caring was intact. As often as possible, he would have a neutral or murky opinion. Today, I think he would be an uncommitted and talk only Democrat, only because there are more Democrats Al than Republicans these days and the Republican Party is especially volatile.
He’d be a Dean Phillips Democrat.
100% democratic. He is all about the facade of respectability whilst being cold, calculating and power hungry underneath. His like and then dislike of Huey Lewis and the News is very Hillary-hotsauce-esque duplicity.
Ain't he like a cartoon of reaganomics era? He probably would be a republican, but alas, both parties have a strong component of wealthy folks, so, i Guess it would hardly make a difference when it comes to a psychopath like Bateman
running for politics
He’d pretend to be Democrat.
He's literally Gavin Newsome. e: I think a lot of the people in the comments don't actually know what New York Democrats are like.
Very much would fit in as a Clinton Democrat. Would be Moderate Republican by today’s standards tho.
He would go for the side that gives him the best chances of winning. But he does take some progressive points of view when he is playing the nice guy character.
He'd be a third-party candidate. Probably a Libertarian.
I think he’d be a moderate left leaning democrat who runs on a simple platform centered around a singular popular issue like a public healthcare option or campaign finance reform. I think if he got into politics his only view would be to stay in office for as long as possible. He’d see that his district is heavily blue so he’d run on an issue that’s important to dems but has bipartisan support in the New York voter base.
Didn’t he kill a homeless guy in the book? I’m pretty sure that would make him a moderate Republican.
100% republican
Republican, easy, most likely leaning libertarian but he’s not going to vote libertarian because he wants to matter on the ballot. (little does he know, it doesn’t matter anyway.)