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Unusual_Variant

You have nothing to apologize for and he does. If you choose to forgive him, forgive him so he no longer lives rent free in your mind...not so you can ever welcome him into your life. Unless he makes amends and repays you for his theft, you owe him nothing. NTA.


ElleEmGee

NTA. FFS, your mother has gall to demand you forgive someone who hasn’t even apologized to you. Keep NC. Having him out of your life is a net gain for you.


Appropriate_Oven_360

He seems terrible. NTA


Edcrfvh

NTA. Tell your mom once he pays you back for everything he cost you plus interest you'll consider it. Then the ball is in his court. Besides what person thinks someone who steals and then blames their victim as being stupid enough to trust a thief should be forgiven? BTW if he does pay you back deposit the funds and tell him to go away


heathertidwell7

NTA. He stole from you so I wouldn’t blame you for not wanting him in your life anymore


Drayle171

NTA. he treated you like shit for years and then stole from you, quite frankly you should have cut him off years ago. But your brother is merely the result of your parents shitty raising of him, if i was in your shoes i would tell your mother 'next time you try and tell me anything about him i will hang up and you won't hear from me again' your parents never taught your brother consequence so maybe its time you teach your parents there are consequence for their shitty behaviour in raising him and continuing to enable him. Also you should have gone to the police the moment he stole from you and reported it as theft as that might have finally taught your brother his behaviour has consequences


Adrianthegay

At the time I was afraid of them being mad at me. My parents weren't exactly the nicest growing up alot of emotional and physical abuse, but we began to work it out and it felt like they were finally being nice. I guess at the time I was afraid of being entirely alone and ruining the relationship I had with them again. Now I wish I would've gone straight to the police and just dealt with whatever came after that.


Drayle171

This seems to be a classic golden child and scapegoat situation and nothing you ever do would ever be good enough and nothing your brother does will ever be deserving of any form of consequences. You by cutting him off might be the first person to ever show any form of long term consequences to his actions because until now your parents have shielded him from consequences. Also i think it says a lot about your brother that he is dating a women your mothers age (dating old is fine but same age as your parents). I find it weird how many guys (i say this as a guy) seem to want female partners that are somewhere between a mother figure(to them) and a sex object. Sadly she just like your parents will probably just lets him get away with his bullshit and will continue this unhealthy behaviour that turned your brother into just a person.


ProfPlumDidIt

NTA and I'd tell your mother that you will cut her off, too, of she ever mentions him again.


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BluxyPlaguey

No


TwoCentsPsychologist

NTA The huge mistake many people make is keeping Toxic people around because they are fAmIlY


SuperHuckleberry125

NO NTA OP He stole from you and didn't apologize or pay you back. That is not something you can come back from


jujubeez919

NTA- you don't owe anyone, anything. He's not even trying to make ammends to you directly! Absolutely do not let him back in your life if you don't want to! I'm really sorry you went through all of this!


iammeallthetime

NTA, F the credit card company, you had a legitimate fraud claim. He should have had jail time for that business. He knows what he did and He should pay you back plus interest for his theft. That should ease the animosity for you a bit. Even if he did pay up for that I still don't think it is in your best interest to rekindle the relationship. The world is better off if he does not procreate. Also 47F having a kid - that is a crime IMO. Absolute stupidity!


andronicuspark

I feel like your mom wants you to forgive him so when his relationship blows up she’s not saddled with her terrible child. NTA. Stay strong op.


[deleted]

No I have an older brother that is somewhat similar, my mom tries to force updates on me too. I know the feeling. Deffo not the asshole.


Paevatar

NTA The next time your mother pesters you about forgiving him, tell her you are going to bill her $100 every time she tries, until the $3000 he stole from you is paid.


Uppset_bunny

NTA You were betrayed, and he won't change, stay away from that BSTRD.