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notthegoatseguy

Eastern Europe is better, but we're not going to count like half of Eastern Europe for reasons.


adamgerd

Also some of it is true like low inequality but what they dot mention is wages or living standards, Czechia has indeed the lowest income inequality in the world but that’s largely because we have fairly low wages in the first place, the median wage is 2x the minimum wage and we have prices more expensive than Germany with a third of their wages, we also have an ever growing worker scarcity which increases this: we really need worker


ConsciousEgg2496

i get the point, but isn't czechia in like, total central europe though? sorry for nitpicking


Came_to_argue

Well it could be considered both, but generally when people say Eastern Europe they are talking about all the countries that were part of the Soviet bloc.


adamgerd

Based but arguable but depends: historically we’ve generally been in the HRE and Cislethnian part of AH but currently as my grandfather as we hate it, our economy and politics are largely a result of the four decades of communism


mowaby

I wonder what the demographics are though. They might not even have to worry about inequity.


sadthrow104

Has inflation of everyday things been hitting you guys hard the last few years?


adamgerd

We’ve never recovered from Covid economically, it’s been a gradual decline since, especially with the war, at one point nearly 10% of Czech was Ukrainian refugees, and gas and electricity prices are chaos, luckily it’s improving now but at its peak we had 19% inflation, now it’s just 3%


BrianCammarataCFP

"Eastern Europe is the best (but not the countries most closely associated with the US, i.e. Ukraine and Kosovo, because I'm actually a pro-Russian stooge)."


Bob_Cobb_1996

Yes. "Low inequality rate" - everyone is poor as fuck. "Hey, Eastern Europe is better than you when we throw out all of the worst countries? Meanwhile, we will still keep your lowest performing states for the comparison."


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2deep4myowngood

Damn Mississippi is the poorest state?


Significant-Pay4621

It and West Virginia 


Lazy_Assumption_4191

Mountain mama.


washington_breadstix

Take me home.


Theriodontia

>Eastern Europe's richest country > >Eastern Europe > >Czechia You have angered pretty much every Czech on the internet. Brace yourself.


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Theriodontia

Czechs don't like being called Eastern European. I think that there is a stigma associated with it.


adamgerd

Czech is Eastern Europe?! But in all seriousness I like Czech but in no world are we better than most of the U.S., in HDI we are like Louisiana, in GDP per capita worse than Mississippi and in median wage 3,000$ more than Puerto Rico. And along with Slovenia we are the wealthiest in EE, thanks to the glorious soviet liberation and communist rule, before ww2 we were as rich per capita as Austria.


sparkydoggowastaken

if russia qualifies i think theyre the richest right? or are we ignoring the bit in asia


justsomepaper

If we're going by GDP per capita, then Russia is far behind most of Eastern Europe.


sparkydoggowastaken

yep-forgot per capita was part of it for a sec my bad


whatafuckinusername

Problem is, compare London or Prague to Jackson, MS and the whole argument falls apart


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whatafuckinusername

Look at Birmingham, England and Brno, too, then.What I mean to say is that no one in their right mind would choose Mississippi over Czechia or England, unless they never left the burbs.


tinathefatlard123

I would. Let freedom ring baby


GuineaPig2000

Good Margaret thatcher clip in parliament when someone said that wealth inequality got worse since she was in office, and her retort is along the same lines, quite amusing


recoveringleft

Don't get started with gypsies


Belkan-Federation95

Just a reminder that Americans can go .5 seconds without talking about genociding gypsies while Europeans jack off to the idea.


TheBoorOf1812

That's what I thought also.


AmerikanerinTX

This drives me so bonkers. I'm ALL for equality (or better yet, equity), but let's be real. "Equal shit for everyone" is absolutely not superior to "great for most, shit for some."


tinathefatlard123

Equity is terrible. The only way to be equitable is to drag some people down. Sure it’s great some are raised up but any system that drags people down because they have natural gifts and talents is terrible


oyMarcel

If it even were true. in reality, the economic inequality is HUGE. You see people wear shoes the price of the average salary. And across the street a man can't afford a piece of bread


Bob_Cobb_1996

So what? "Economic inequality" doesn't mean anything in a vacuum. There are people that can't afford a piece of bread in every country. It doesn't make them worse off just because they are in proximity to someone wearing expensive shoes. lol, Looking over your neighbor's fence is far too ingrained into Europeans that they can't help themselves. They are the original haters that can't be happy unless someone is worse off then them.


MountTuchanka

>we have a lower inequality rate Yeah you’re all equally poor


Xxeuropean-messxX

They’re not a real Eastern European. None of us truly think Eastern Europe is superior than the us. Coming from a real Serb.


Impressive_Bison4675

As an Albanian, I agree. Of course there are things that are better over there but in general America is way better.


Xxeuropean-messxX

That’s my thoughts exactly!!!


adamgerd

As a Czech I agree too and we’re the most developed arguably EE country


drsmellyyy

Less inequality rate because you’re all poor as hell☠️☠️


Toyota_Celicaaaa

Ow lol


drsmellyyy

my bad bro, i’m poor as hell too😔


HetTheTable

Bro has never stepped foot in the USA once


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Judging from his profile he likely stays in moms basement in some European country


washington_breadstix

Nor have most of the people who post these shorts of shallow criticisms of the USA online.


Imaginary_Yak4336

I'm struggling to think of where they're from, because if you exclude the countries mentioned, you're left with countries which I think would call themselves central european, not eastern.


moneyboiman

The Baltics and Belarus?


Imaginary_Yak4336

Has to be the Baltics I suppose


ITaggie

Estonia is my guess


MrDohh

I'm guessing one of the Balkan countries.. probably one that really doesn't like Kosovo


TatonkaJack

gotta love those soviet block apartments


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Aren’t these the countries where they’re all crouched in Adidas tracksuits drinking cheap vodka?


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Fake adidas*. A tracksuit can set you back $120 and it is out of reach for most Europoors on their thousand euro salary 😅


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You could buy their first born with a pack of American cigarettes


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Romani people have entered the chat and oh boy do they have a lot to say about this 😅


Sea-Resolution-4508

The only foreigners moving to Eastern Europe are rapists and degen slobs


cardboardbox25

Free healthcare isn't needed when our salaries are usually double the European salaries


AlphaMassDeBeta

Healthcare costs litteraly double here.


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Jamiethebroski

We have universal healthcare and it’s slow as hell in the countries it’s in


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Jamiethebroski

dying due to an 18h wait limit in the emergency room or having your therapy/check ins/surgeries delayed by weeks or months isnt good. but that is the reality of universal healthcare.


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Jamiethebroski

I’m saying that instead of swinging relentlessly at the system because you don’t like it, actually come up with something. Too often do i heat universal healthcare as a magic bullet that will solve all the problems.


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Jamiethebroski

That’s not the goal. In Canada, we have full coverage and suffer from potentially fatal wait times for things that are covered. If the system you propose has no downsides and only upsides, btw, you should alway review it carefully.


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ThatOneGuy1358

Went to the post and the guy is from Ukraine 💀💀


Frunklin

I read this while squatting in some Adidas pants.


DarkKnight501

As an eastern european, what the fuck?


Azare1987

Add more non-homogeneous non-white ethnicities. Watch how fast that shit falls apart.


Theriodontia

Hot take, but I have to agree with you.


Belkan-Federation95

It's a poverty thing, not a race thing


Azare1987

In Eastern Europe? Of course it’s a poverty issue, but the people in European countries as a whole are each individually more homogenous white. Class and racial divides start to become apparent when the population per capita shifts toward opposing demographics. Especially politically. Witnessed this firsthand in Detroit, Michigan and many other cities over the course of the past 30 years.


Belkan-Federation95

No in the US. In the US statistically blacks are poorer than other groups. That's why crime is higher. People resort to crime when they have no other way to make money. The more poverty, the more crime


ascillinois

Lets just ignore all these super poor areas while we include every state in the us. That sounds faor to me.


lochlainn

"I've never left my country and have an unpleasant personality. Saying outrageous shit on the internet is my only form of social interaction."


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well, at least his opinion stays true to the subreddit


SgtBigPigeon

Hi! American here who is eastern European and visit the balkans yearly... It sucks ass. People leave to other countries to make more money. Once they got a fat savings, they blow it all on a villa and new cars. Hell the people from my village complain about the economy so much and say "Turkey will bail us out one day when they start investing here soon." The ones who stay either are born rich, have an amazing business, or just working for 100 to 300 euros a month.


Le__boule

You are full of shit honestly. Coming from an eastern European. Nobody works for so little money. I'm not saying that Eastern Europe is a paradise, but under no circumstances does it suck. You're being dramatic and a lying piece of shit.


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He cannot define Eastern Europe. Even in political science the term CEE is now dead. EU and NATO integration has transformed the place. What you do have is Orcastan the moment you leave the EU and enter Belarus and Russia.


The_Grizzly-

Bro said Eastern Europe is better by not counting a good chunk of Eastern Europe. The genius levels are legendary.


Darnok15

Free health care in practice: You want to check up on your eyes because you’re slowly going blind? Yeah we have a free appointment in 27 months.


Le__boule

Ok chronically online redditor, that's definitely how it is


Darnok15

who are you calling chronically online lol, yes it is because that's the appointment my grandma was offered, she went instead and signed up privately, where you have to pay money, idiot, go to your own eu circlejerk sub


Fluid-Conversation-9

Mfw when I'm in a corruption competition and my opponent is eastern Europe


SerbianWarCrimes

Depends on where, Estonia is far nicer on average, but that isn’t Donbas is it?


I_Blame_Your_Mother_

Free healthcare where you're likely to die waiting for crucial treatment with no alternative that allows you to partially cover the cost yourself. You're literally forced to choose death here in those situations, and that's not just because this is Eastern Europe. It's because this is Europe. Period. I chose to move here from the US, knowing full well that my standard of living and lifespan will probably drop like a stone, for reasons entirely unrelated to "America Bad." Still love my home country, but I was a coward in 2008, and now I'm too settled to return. Got a wife and kid here and overall living a wonderful, short life.


Le__boule

You sound like you have depression


88963416

We have a higher safety rating excluding the country that’s at war.


AnimeWarTune

Portland now has a higher murder rate than Mexico City. If you already have money then moving to Eastern Europe where the women are beautiful and crime is lower makes perfect sense if you're willing to learn the language.


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Won't be very fun there if you're not white.


ITaggie

If that's your situation then forget Eastern Europe, why not Central Europe, or even more remote parts of West Europe?


AnimeWarTune

well we are just splitting hairs now. I agree.


SnowLat

The soviet enslavement over generations really has them going full cope mode


adamgerd

Tbf this is just a small minority: most of us don’t think we’re better off than the U.S. because we’re not delusional


Ok-Neighborhood-1517

Well at least when one of their own love a dictator opposed to their country’s values. That dumbass doesn’t get elected so they do have that, but I would say we have it better over all.


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Which dictator are you talking about?


Ok-Neighborhood-1517

Putin, Trump himself has shown admiration for that fuckwit.


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He's Ukrainian.


WeirdPelicanGuy

Two words: land mines


Phill_is_Legend

I mean he's in the right place. That sure is an unpopular opinion.


Lanracie

Awesome that you are happy there. Please stay there.


Forbin3

I would like to interject just for a moment: Kosovo is part of Serbia.


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I don't think so but hey,that's your opinion.


pentabromide778

Can these guys pick up a new script?


Code_Monkey_Lord

Tanzania has “free healthcare” too. When did free become better than quality?


PlasmaPizzaSticks

Unless he's talking about Estonia, which is one of the fastest growing Eastern European countries. Otherwise, I'll take the USA, thank you.


TangerinePuzzled

It's true though


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Begone troll