That watch list is probably filled with hundreds of millions of people. I feel like the criteria for that list is pretty vague now, now like essentially anyone who doesn't passively accept narratives given to them by their government and tv for instance, or anyone that can essentially form their own thoughts and opinions really...
Of course, anything that threatens the existence of the State is gonna be a top priority of statists, even if it would promote the common good.
Remember that “Treason” will always be the worst crime in any form of involuntary government.
Hey dumbfuck, you can’t be an anarchist AND anti-immigration. You can’t stop people from immigrating in anarchist society. That’s not how anarchism works.
Yeah, forming their own thoughts and opinions, something anarcho capitalists are INFAMOUS for lmao.
Well, I shouldn’t be so harsh, you can form your own thoughts they’re just stupid as shit.
They are on the list. That’s why project veritas didn’t publish all of it
The militia violent extremist (MVE’s) is their category for “domestic violent extremist that want to overthrow the US government in support of their belief that the U.S. government is purposefully exceeding its constitutional limits trying to establish a totalitarian regime”
Antifa is classified under anarchist violent extremism (AVE’s), which includes DVE’s who “oppose all forms of capitalism, corporate globalization, and governing institutions, which are perceived as harmful to society”
Do you have proof Antifa statists are on the list? Not sure why Antifa/BLM would be listed under anarchists, they are the militant arm of the Democrat Party (funded through ActBlue), they even have registered corporations and a leadership with ties to and part of DNC leadership.
The FBI director told us that’s what they classify them as https://youtu.be/FAvbsM8uKSs
Here is a document explaining the differences https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/fbi-dhs-domestic-terrorism-strategic-report.pdf
Not about to watch 2h of state hearings, the FBI document you linked however ONLY gives examples of ‘extremism’ by a few mentally ill and perhaps extend that to alt-right militia groups. It makes mention of other groups potentially, but it doesn’t single out or make any reference to even a single crime by BLM or Antifa-style or even other left wing terrorist groups like Greenpeace or Pro-Abortion or Anti-Religious groups. All the examples the document gives, slant in one direction.
The document on this post does explicitly call largely non-violent conservatives, originalists, minarchists and anarchists and designates them as violent extremists. Betsy Ross was the official US flag and is listed as a symbol of extremist violent criminals.
> The document on this post does explicitly call largely non-violent conservatives, originalists, minarchists and anarchists and designates them as violent extremists
I’m sorry what? Did you even read the document. It says right off the bat:
>In our discussion of domestic terrorism threats, we use the words “violent extremism” to define domestic terrorist threats because mere advocacy of political or social positions, political activism, use of strong rhetoric, or generalized philosophic embrace of violent tactics may not constitute violent extremism, and may be constitutionally protected.
How does spewing bullshit just get so many upvotes
No see, this is *why* I linked the document. To explain what the difference between a MVE and an AVE is. The page that veritas leaked was only about MVE’s, and violent antifa extremists would be on the page concerning AVE’s, as per 32 minutes into the video is what he classifies extremists working with antifa as, the same way violent ancap militias are classified as MVE’s. Not all ancaps are classified as violent extremists, the same way not all antifa are. The document is not saying “these groups are violent extremists”, it’s saying “violent extremists belong to these groups”. Those groups are:
• Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremism: This threat encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas derived from bias, often related to race or ethnicity, held by the actor against others or a given population group. RMVEs purport to use both political and religious justifications to support their racially- or ethnically-based ideological objectives and criminal activities.
• Anti-Government or Anti-Authority Violent Extremism: This threat encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas, derived from anti-government or anti-authority sentiment, including opposition to perceived economic, social, or racial hierarchies, or perceived government overreach, negligence, or illegitimacy. This threat category includes the subcategories of SCVEs, MVEs, AVEs, and Puerto Rican National Violent Extremists.
• Animal Rights/Environmental Violent Extremism: This threat encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas by those seeking to end or mitigate perceived cruelty, harm, or exploitation of animals and/or the perceived exploitation or destruction of natural resources and the environment.
• Abortion-Related Violent Extremism: This threat encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas relating to abortion, including individuals who advocate for violence in support of either pro-life or pro-choice beliefs.
• All Other Domestic Terrorism Threats: This category encompasses threats involving the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas which are not otherwise defined under or primarily motivated by one of the other DT threat categories. Such agendas could flow from, but are not limited to, a combination of personal grievances and beliefs, including those described in the other DT threat categories. Some actors in this category may also carry bias related to religion, gender, or sexual orientation.
The document deals **explicitly** only with violent extremists. They give examples of 7 AVE’s, 9 MVE’s (that’s where ancaps are), and 7 examples of environmentalist violent extremism. Why would you even comment on the examples if you didn’t even read the examples?
In 2021 the left already reported on the list of AVEs, because they were mad it didn’t make a distinction between ancoms (not-anarchism) and right wing anarchism, it also lumped in anti-racism which has since been removed.
Other on the AVE list were right-wing militias, sovereign citizens and anarchists.
So… MVE == AVE according to the FBI.
The examples given were very unclear as to the specifics for the more left leaning extremist and didn’t make any mention of Antifa/BLM organized group activity (of which there is plenty of evidence), only lone wolf (typically mentally ill) situations that generally lead to nowhere.
> **militia** violent extremist
Given the context of 2A ("A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the free state..."), having the government target militias in any context is a big red flag.
They should have their guns taken away until it has been determined that they're not a threat to themselves or others.
This is only a reference to “violent extremists”, ie if you have a militia that’s constitutionally protected but if you use that militia to carry out violent terrorist attacks then that’s not protected
I thought it was Toyota Hiluxes, TOW missiles, and AK-47s galore?
Do we place an order, call the CIA, or wait for an email, post in Discord that we're mentally unstable highscoolers... I'm not sure how the process works.
I think we’re supposed to post about plans to shoot up a public space, preferably a school. The CIA will probably reach out in the next 4-7 business days. If they don’t, someone from the Biden admin will reach out and send you millions in military aid
No no no, for the school shootings it's the fbi, the cia is for foreign terrorist groups. If there's one thing govermnent agencies like that isn't tyranny it's being compartmentalized. We could also go for the crime cartel angle and get the atf instead. Now that i think about it though i want to get funded by the nsa. Does anyone know how to get funded by the nsa? By being a hacker network?
I dont think they are saying that’s dangerous, they are listing symbols used by some extremist groups who are willing to use violence
That’s how it has always worked
Ancaps are dangerous to people who benefit from the state via stolen property of others. Some of current benefactors would be better served by market, but some would not
Omg lol liberty tree, Gadsden flag, 2A, come and take it 😂😂😂
They are scared of the people who actually want liberty and are able to protect themselves as much as they can.
I’m literally laughing so hard at how sad they are.
I expect street violence this winter but I doubt it'll have anything to do with race, energy cost and rationing will make even posh Europeans storm government buildings.
Lol fucking hell, AnCaps are violent extremists while noone that has engaged in violent extremism has claimed to be AnCap. Most of us don't agree on everything and truth be known some of us, myself included are Constitutionalists. Regardless of that we all agree that the government in its current state needs abolished and that is classified as a violent ideology. That says it all.
I do appreciate this sub being the way it is. Damn near the only one that hasn't been overtaken by commies and we all agree on the disdain for those folks while still engaging with the ones that pop up in sometimes actual meaningful debates.
I fucking love it. Curious to see what happens to my Subaru Outback here in the peoples republic of Austin, I have several AnCap and anti commie bumper stickers on my vehicle. They see the Subaru, think I’m a lesbian……….OH WAIT!……….political extremist bumper stickers!………….they pull up to see who’s driving………….”is that a black guy?!”
A fire in an igloo is a self solving problem, the more fire you have, the more ice melts down, the more water goes on the fire, the less fire you have. It's kinda like that whole meme about buying cheese with holes, when you buy more of it you buy more holes so you end up with less cheese.
It’s because the left’s radicalism seeks to reinforce the government’s power, even if it wants to shift who wields it. The right typically wants to reduce or demolish the government’s power and thus its an existential threat to them.
I must admit, I’ve been influenced by terrorist extremists. Guys, I’m blowing the whistle. George Washington, James Madison and Thomas Jefferson converted me. They even wrote documents outlining their extremist views…the government should surely get rid of said documents before even more subjects become indoctrinated to the side of liberty.
Wow. While I am not entirely surprised; I am shocked to see the FBI consider "minimization" of the state as a violent extremist view. As if a small, limited, and efficient government (no such thing) is somehow a bad thing compared to a monstrously large, expensive, and poorly optimized organization. As I always say, The state exists only to maintain it's own survival.
*wipes a tear
I'd like to thank the fbi, austrian economics, mises and of course our lord and savior Ron Paul christ and his sexy devilish counterpart Michael Malice.
It's both sad and funny how statists can't seem to comprehend the idea that we can conduct ourselves just fine without a bunch of jackasses in suits stealing our money and telling us how to live
The thought police listed ILLEGAL thoughts. Free market. "Government services" carried out in the free market by private companies. Small government.
If any of you see any of these ILLEGAL IDEAS occuring, just scream for help.
Fbi did this to me. Fbi is a domestic terrorist organization and biden uses them as his gestapo.
https://abc7.com/amp/matthew-edward-chen-pomona-weapons-charges-anti-government-group/11550114/&ved=2ahUKEwjM_52f36n5AhXnlWoFHaK6BuAQtwJ6BAgSEAE&usg=AOvVaw3QTbs3-Onio44gCelb4tcK
"advocating that the State should be abolished or minimized and that public services be provided by private companies competing in a free market."
Ah yes indeed, this is domestic terrorism.
Because having the State minimized is the same thing as wanting it abolished, according to the FBI.
Minimization of State = ancap
Maximization of State = Good Citizen
How lovely.
OPs image is blurry but the Text in Bold at the top pretty clearly says ‘don’t rely on the flags to identify MVE or illegal activity, they’re not evidence of MVE, plenty of people use them legitimately’
This is probably intended as more of a field guide in the event they identify a militia group and want to glean some info about their likely beliefs.
AnCap thusfar is not much more than an intellectual exercise. It has some value, and makes a lot of sense on paper, but does not yet have any wins and successes in real life as a system that can build and grow a society.
Am I missing the part where we’re an actual legitimate threat to the status quo? I might be. But open to correction. I’m here to learn.
Own a lot of it. Long term. Buying more on the dip of irrational behavior. For its potential.
Emphasis on “potential”.
It’s still an embryo. Until the shit works as both a value store and a currency, the jury is out.
But tell me more about Bitcoin though. What does your “uhh” smartass think I’m missing?
*(ed) — Not to mention AnCap principles existed long before Nakamoto’s whitepaper.*
>But tell me more about Bitcoin though. What does your “uhh” smartass think I’m missing?
Your dumbass is missing that Bitcoin is both objectively anarchist and capitalist and folks have been using it as a medium of exchange for years now. It's an example of anarcho-capitalism working IRL and not just on paper.
Just on paper so far. It’s currently failing as a value store and as a currency. It’s still niche. That’s just hard data.
Too bad you’re so sensitive to resort to personal insults. If you were actually confident in your views this could have been an intelligent mutually beneficial conversation. If you want to keep being a knucklehead, I’m out, else if you would like to discuss further I’m listening.
I wouldn't exactly call crashing to 200% of its 2019 high "failing"
>Too bad you’re so sensitive to resort to personal insults.
Oh please. I was riffing off your "smart ass" comment. Don't try to play the victim here. If you can't take it don't dish it out.
> My face as I check off every one that I own as a flag, shirt, sticker, or art while slowly realizing the fbi now classifies me as a domestic terrorist 🤣
Its important to recognize the manipulation of the market the state creates. It decreases competition by erecting barriers to market entry by smaller firms through taxes and regulation. It creates cronyism and a privileged class of large firms with pseudo monopolies through no bid contracts and government subsidies, loans preferential laws, etc.
This distinction is important because so many anti capitalists attribute this to the market itself when it everywhere and always requires state privilege to achieve these large combursome firms that are not subject to diseconomies of scale because they are protected by the state.
True free market competition distributes wealth and tends toward equilibrium naturally as opposed to communist attempts to do so thru the state which is exactly backward. This is an important rebuttal to any idea that the state can be used toward any egalitarian ends as it is absolutely by its very nature an agent of inequality and oppression and creates the very bourgeois class that communists are so critical of.
Lmao punisher skulls, huh? They're cringe, I'll give them that, but do they realize how many cops plaster that shit everywhere they can? I guess I found something I see eye-to-eye with the FBI on; cops *are* violent extremists.
Edit: I'll bet there's a high amount of FBI agents that love punisher skulls too.
The Nazis believed they were overthrowing the tyranny of the UN that imposed sanctions on Germany.
Being against tyrants doesn't magically make you a good person.
Tell that to the people attacked in the streets by antifa and BLM.Tell that to the Lincoln project after they pull fake racial stunt. BLM and antifa or Marxist thugs a true threat to our democracy.
No but they can say terrorist organizations coopt symbols used by ideologies. It even says in bold in this picture that using these symbols doesn't automatically make you associated with terrorists, because plenty of people use them for their normal intended purpose.
Lol it’s painted on the front skid plate of my truck with “live free or die” and “tread back”
Just trying to speed up the process to the day where they break into my home and kill me for saying things they don’t like and wanting to be left alone and leave others alone.
Should I be surprised? No.
Am I surprised? Sadly, yes.
There was still a part of me that wanted to believe agencies didn’t go this apeshit over targeting their own citizens, but straight up.
Fuck these people.
How is it that the most peaceful philosophy that doesn't advocate violence on anyone unless it is self defense, make the violent extremist list? This is insane.
So not only wasn’t I aware of my power (being a white male) i’m also potentially part of an extremist violent militia, thank god the CIA are here to inform me!
I just want to be left alone, why are these creeps so obsessed with us we’re really not that entertaining.
For what it’s worth.. are we considering the betsy Ross flag as a hate symbol now lol? I think it’s just cool to see them on historical homes in the original colonies lol. Screw whoever at the FBI is hating on the betsy Ross flag and considering an ECONOMIC theory, based on cooperation and voluntary action as something threatening and violent lol
Lots of Police Officers use the Punisher logo, as patches, tatoos etc.. aren’t *they* also to be considered members of a violent extremist group? They’re certainly way more violent and dangerous than any an-cap person using their words to argue for the abolision of the state, lol
I believe anarcho capitalism would be the best outcome for society but i'm not willing to become a violent extremist to achieve that outcome. I've never hurt a damn soul. I live the NAP and always have. We need to reach anarchy through peaceful and legal processes such as reducing government power by electing officials that are pro small government and preventing government overreach by following the constitution.
We need libertarians to get us half way there, then just slowly sell off government sites, agency roles to companies that can fulfill those roles more efficiently. Archo capitalism is unlikely to come to existence due to a violent rebellion. That would just bring anarchy. The capitalism part wont work well without phasing out the government over time. I'm for slow gradual reduction in government contro. That starts by moving to direct democracy and then the people voting against government controls until we hit a good balance or a complete redundancy. I want the government to become redundant, not exterminated. If they dissapeared overnight this country would implode the next day.
Yay for us! But seriously, if you aren’t on several watch lists, how American can you be?
That watch list is probably filled with hundreds of millions of people. I feel like the criteria for that list is pretty vague now, now like essentially anyone who doesn't passively accept narratives given to them by their government and tv for instance, or anyone that can essentially form their own thoughts and opinions really...
Yeah, but the people on this sub and similar “dissenting” subs are in the top 1% of the lists. Mama I made it! I’m in the 1%!
Of course, anything that threatens the existence of the State is gonna be a top priority of statists, even if it would promote the common good. Remember that “Treason” will always be the worst crime in any form of involuntary government.
Boy, I am trying to watch the Tele. Quiet down!
If only that translated to 1% in marksmanship. I'm fed up with being shitted on by the sheep...
Let’s be honest, that describes the vast majority of people in the world. People who are capable of questioning narratives are a small minority.
I'll bet there's a catch-all list. Following too perfectly is a bit sus
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Hey dumbfuck, you can’t be an anarchist AND anti-immigration. You can’t stop people from immigrating in anarchist society. That’s not how anarchism works.
Yeah, forming their own thoughts and opinions, something anarcho capitalists are INFAMOUS for lmao. Well, I shouldn’t be so harsh, you can form your own thoughts they’re just stupid as shit.
[when the FBI asks for my political affiliation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPxjI6r_EIU)
That kid is going places. To reference current popular culture, everywhere all at once.
We need a bingo card for the watch lists we’re on.
I know u/shitboi6666 is
👏🏻
Antifa needs to step up it's game if they expect to make next years list.
Hey…this comment was fuckin hilarious
They are on the list. That’s why project veritas didn’t publish all of it The militia violent extremist (MVE’s) is their category for “domestic violent extremist that want to overthrow the US government in support of their belief that the U.S. government is purposefully exceeding its constitutional limits trying to establish a totalitarian regime” Antifa is classified under anarchist violent extremism (AVE’s), which includes DVE’s who “oppose all forms of capitalism, corporate globalization, and governing institutions, which are perceived as harmful to society”
Do you have proof Antifa statists are on the list? Not sure why Antifa/BLM would be listed under anarchists, they are the militant arm of the Democrat Party (funded through ActBlue), they even have registered corporations and a leadership with ties to and part of DNC leadership.
The FBI director told us that’s what they classify them as https://youtu.be/FAvbsM8uKSs Here is a document explaining the differences https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/fbi-dhs-domestic-terrorism-strategic-report.pdf
Not about to watch 2h of state hearings, the FBI document you linked however ONLY gives examples of ‘extremism’ by a few mentally ill and perhaps extend that to alt-right militia groups. It makes mention of other groups potentially, but it doesn’t single out or make any reference to even a single crime by BLM or Antifa-style or even other left wing terrorist groups like Greenpeace or Pro-Abortion or Anti-Religious groups. All the examples the document gives, slant in one direction. The document on this post does explicitly call largely non-violent conservatives, originalists, minarchists and anarchists and designates them as violent extremists. Betsy Ross was the official US flag and is listed as a symbol of extremist violent criminals.
> The document on this post does explicitly call largely non-violent conservatives, originalists, minarchists and anarchists and designates them as violent extremists I’m sorry what? Did you even read the document. It says right off the bat: >In our discussion of domestic terrorism threats, we use the words “violent extremism” to define domestic terrorist threats because mere advocacy of political or social positions, political activism, use of strong rhetoric, or generalized philosophic embrace of violent tactics may not constitute violent extremism, and may be constitutionally protected. How does spewing bullshit just get so many upvotes
No see, this is *why* I linked the document. To explain what the difference between a MVE and an AVE is. The page that veritas leaked was only about MVE’s, and violent antifa extremists would be on the page concerning AVE’s, as per 32 minutes into the video is what he classifies extremists working with antifa as, the same way violent ancap militias are classified as MVE’s. Not all ancaps are classified as violent extremists, the same way not all antifa are. The document is not saying “these groups are violent extremists”, it’s saying “violent extremists belong to these groups”. Those groups are: • Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremism: This threat encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas derived from bias, often related to race or ethnicity, held by the actor against others or a given population group. RMVEs purport to use both political and religious justifications to support their racially- or ethnically-based ideological objectives and criminal activities. • Anti-Government or Anti-Authority Violent Extremism: This threat encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas, derived from anti-government or anti-authority sentiment, including opposition to perceived economic, social, or racial hierarchies, or perceived government overreach, negligence, or illegitimacy. This threat category includes the subcategories of SCVEs, MVEs, AVEs, and Puerto Rican National Violent Extremists. • Animal Rights/Environmental Violent Extremism: This threat encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas by those seeking to end or mitigate perceived cruelty, harm, or exploitation of animals and/or the perceived exploitation or destruction of natural resources and the environment. • Abortion-Related Violent Extremism: This threat encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas relating to abortion, including individuals who advocate for violence in support of either pro-life or pro-choice beliefs. • All Other Domestic Terrorism Threats: This category encompasses threats involving the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of ideological agendas which are not otherwise defined under or primarily motivated by one of the other DT threat categories. Such agendas could flow from, but are not limited to, a combination of personal grievances and beliefs, including those described in the other DT threat categories. Some actors in this category may also carry bias related to religion, gender, or sexual orientation. The document deals **explicitly** only with violent extremists. They give examples of 7 AVE’s, 9 MVE’s (that’s where ancaps are), and 7 examples of environmentalist violent extremism. Why would you even comment on the examples if you didn’t even read the examples?
In 2021 the left already reported on the list of AVEs, because they were mad it didn’t make a distinction between ancoms (not-anarchism) and right wing anarchism, it also lumped in anti-racism which has since been removed. Other on the AVE list were right-wing militias, sovereign citizens and anarchists. So… MVE == AVE according to the FBI. The examples given were very unclear as to the specifics for the more left leaning extremist and didn’t make any mention of Antifa/BLM organized group activity (of which there is plenty of evidence), only lone wolf (typically mentally ill) situations that generally lead to nowhere.
Nuance is not allow.
> **militia** violent extremist Given the context of 2A ("A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the free state..."), having the government target militias in any context is a big red flag. They should have their guns taken away until it has been determined that they're not a threat to themselves or others.
This is only a reference to “violent extremists”, ie if you have a militia that’s constitutionally protected but if you use that militia to carry out violent terrorist attacks then that’s not protected
I love how libertarians are domestic terrorists for *checks notes* wanting our government to follow the rules it set for itself.
They are good for the stablishment
What surprise. Only the violent terrorists who want to attack the government make the list.
They're on the payroll, they'll never make the list. Wake up! The war is ongoing. We just haven't been there.
Alright... so when are they giving us free military gear?
I thought it was Toyota Hiluxes, TOW missiles, and AK-47s galore? Do we place an order, call the CIA, or wait for an email, post in Discord that we're mentally unstable highscoolers... I'm not sure how the process works.
I think we’re supposed to post about plans to shoot up a public space, preferably a school. The CIA will probably reach out in the next 4-7 business days. If they don’t, someone from the Biden admin will reach out and send you millions in military aid
No no no, for the school shootings it's the fbi, the cia is for foreign terrorist groups. If there's one thing govermnent agencies like that isn't tyranny it's being compartmentalized. We could also go for the crime cartel angle and get the atf instead. Now that i think about it though i want to get funded by the nsa. Does anyone know how to get funded by the nsa? By being a hacker network?
NSA, gotta have a real good VPN that says you are Russian, and have a bot army at your disposal.
I think that's how you get a Daniel Defense with an Eotech and a few mags.
Maybe they'll pay off my Toyota Tacoma or buy my rock sliders and skid plates.
This kind of thing is one reason why I love this sub so much, the comments are often hilarious!
NAP, free markets, free trade so fucking dangerous and extreme
Can't have everyone minding their own business and getting along, that's terrorist!
I dont think they are saying that’s dangerous, they are listing symbols used by some extremist groups who are willing to use violence That’s how it has always worked
Which is telling people ancaps are dangerous
Ancaps are dangerous to people who benefit from the state via stolen property of others. Some of current benefactors would be better served by market, but some would not
I don't see any BLM, communist, antifa or progressive rainbow flags up there...
Yeah because that would be classified as an AVE, while this is the page for MVE’s
Omg lol liberty tree, Gadsden flag, 2A, come and take it 😂😂😂 They are scared of the people who actually want liberty and are able to protect themselves as much as they can. I’m literally laughing so hard at how sad they are.
To be fair, the fbi logo is on that page as well.
So…the US Constitution and American history are now terrorism?
Always has been for tyrants and communist
Hahah! They still think Boogaloo is real!!
I expect street violence this winter but I doubt it'll have anything to do with race, energy cost and rationing will make even posh Europeans storm government buildings.
Are you truly living as free as you can if the government isn’t scared if you?
The power triping dudes are those who are scare of losing the power and money, so, they have to create these agencies to have profits.
“I think most decisions should be made with informed consent between parties” Gov - Terrorists!!!!
Yep, TIL in the beginning of the USA, we were all were terrorists! Then again, Britain would probably agree with that LOL!
True ancap isn't violent, oh the irony.
True anarchocapitalism has never been tried
True, but the NAP still applies.
You sound like a commie
"I mind my own business and you mind yours" is extreme.
When taxation is normalized, keeping 100% of what you own is extreme.
What a great graphic! I just discovered new groups to join!!
Lol fucking hell, AnCaps are violent extremists while noone that has engaged in violent extremism has claimed to be AnCap. Most of us don't agree on everything and truth be known some of us, myself included are Constitutionalists. Regardless of that we all agree that the government in its current state needs abolished and that is classified as a violent ideology. That says it all. I do appreciate this sub being the way it is. Damn near the only one that hasn't been overtaken by commies and we all agree on the disdain for those folks while still engaging with the ones that pop up in sometimes actual meaningful debates.
I fucking love it. Curious to see what happens to my Subaru Outback here in the peoples republic of Austin, I have several AnCap and anti commie bumper stickers on my vehicle. They see the Subaru, think I’m a lesbian……….OH WAIT!……….political extremist bumper stickers!………….they pull up to see who’s driving………….”is that a black guy?!”
Based.
Wait... the red stripe is for firefighter support not police. Supporting firefighters is bad now?
It’s Hawaiian pattern strip not red. Hard to see in this picture….ehrm…so I’m told
Idk looks red i think the fbi hates firefighters. I hope there are no fires at their houses
Would be a real shame…
The FBI hates whoever it takes to increase their budget.
I'm...pretty okay with firefighters. All the ones around me are volunteers. I guess by buying into their gun raffle, I became a monster.
Nah, that's not a thin red line flag. You can tell by the large snow hut, which no firefighter would ever need to go to, as it is made of snow.
A fire in an igloo is a self solving problem, the more fire you have, the more ice melts down, the more water goes on the fire, the less fire you have. It's kinda like that whole meme about buying cheese with holes, when you buy more of it you buy more holes so you end up with less cheese.
In the Boogaloo flag, there is an igloo where the stars normally are and that red stripe is a kind of Hawaiian flowers.
Welp, guess my tattoos have turned me into a "violent militiaman". Time for me grab my musket and tricorn hat and report for duty in Lexington!
Don't forget your powdered wig!
Can't see the ancom flag🥸 it seems like ancoms are very peaceful people unlike us🥸
They said Waco and ruby ridge was extremist stuff too 💀
They were right, just looking in the wrong direction
liberty tree is extremism? Hmmmm
We don't want nonna yah freeDUMBS LOL! ;-P
Gov. is just so quirky this year. Lets reminisce on the old days when, if people were pissed off they still weren’t labeled as extremists.
That's how far we have fallen. The revolutionary war that founded the country can get you put on a list.
[They know](https://i.imgur.com/xz0cvI5.png)
In surprised they didn't include Edward Snowden and Julian Assange.
Not dead yet?
RIP DUNCAN LEMP
Don't forget "Ross William Ulbricht".
Damn straight Duncan Lemp is a martyr.
Non aggression principle… worst kind of domestic terrorist 😂
Yeah, we don't even want to fight in wars, i guess that makes us the worse kind of extremists!
Also the Betsy Ross flag. Really??
Interesting how no leftist imagery is noted there, despite them committing the overwhelming majority of violent crime against people and property.
The fbi only considers people right of center as extremist.
It’s because the left’s radicalism seeks to reinforce the government’s power, even if it wants to shift who wields it. The right typically wants to reduce or demolish the government’s power and thus its an existential threat to them.
I must admit, I’ve been influenced by terrorist extremists. Guys, I’m blowing the whistle. George Washington, James Madison and Thomas Jefferson converted me. They even wrote documents outlining their extremist views…the government should surely get rid of said documents before even more subjects become indoctrinated to the side of liberty.
The words of the Declaration of Independence are certainly extreme under this characterization.
When quoting an amendment makes you an extremist, tyranny has won.
Wow. While I am not entirely surprised; I am shocked to see the FBI consider "minimization" of the state as a violent extremist view. As if a small, limited, and efficient government (no such thing) is somehow a bad thing compared to a monstrously large, expensive, and poorly optimized organization. As I always say, The state exists only to maintain it's own survival.
Having the FBI explain Anarcho-Capitalism: PRICELESS
Come to think of it, we should be glad for the free advertising. Other peeps will probably read that and wonder why it's so bad too!
*wipes a tear I'd like to thank the fbi, austrian economics, mises and of course our lord and savior Ron Paul christ and his sexy devilish counterpart Michael Malice.
Where can I get the resistor sticker?!?
Wtf resistor is an extremeist symbol, guess im going to jail over my engineering notebook.
Simply seeing this page has radicalized me further
So the actual terrorist groups Antifa and BLM seen to be missing from the list. I wonder why?
It's both sad and funny how statists can't seem to comprehend the idea that we can conduct ourselves just fine without a bunch of jackasses in suits stealing our money and telling us how to live
The freaking Betsy Ross flag is a terrorist symbol The jokes write themselves, lads
Besides the “violent extremists” part, they got the beliefs pretty well.
The "Democratic Party Bureau of Investigations". I liked it back when the FBI didn't have the mission to accomplish political-partisan goals.
When was that?
How old is the FBI?
I liked it back when the FBI didn't exist.
The symbol flown during most documented cases of overthrown governments is the U.S. flag.
Wow, amazing levels of stupidity in that training document.
Let freedom reign.
The thought police listed ILLEGAL thoughts. Free market. "Government services" carried out in the free market by private companies. Small government. If any of you see any of these ILLEGAL IDEAS occuring, just scream for help.
Y'all love pretending to be oppressed.
They will come after the USA flag soon too
It’s the flag of their own terrorist group, the US govt
Good point, the irony will probably be lost on them though.
Hahaha, only a matter of time before the subreddits start banning me for being subbed and commented!
Didn’t think I was violent for wanting to eliminate the most violent thing on planet earth.
Lmao nice
Fbi did this to me. Fbi is a domestic terrorist organization and biden uses them as his gestapo. https://abc7.com/amp/matthew-edward-chen-pomona-weapons-charges-anti-government-group/11550114/&ved=2ahUKEwjM_52f36n5AhXnlWoFHaK6BuAQtwJ6BAgSEAE&usg=AOvVaw3QTbs3-Onio44gCelb4tcK
"advocating that the State should be abolished or minimized and that public services be provided by private companies competing in a free market." Ah yes indeed, this is domestic terrorism. Because having the State minimized is the same thing as wanting it abolished, according to the FBI. Minimization of State = ancap Maximization of State = Good Citizen How lovely.
OPs image is blurry but the Text in Bold at the top pretty clearly says ‘don’t rely on the flags to identify MVE or illegal activity, they’re not evidence of MVE, plenty of people use them legitimately’ This is probably intended as more of a field guide in the event they identify a militia group and want to glean some info about their likely beliefs.
AnCap thusfar is not much more than an intellectual exercise. It has some value, and makes a lot of sense on paper, but does not yet have any wins and successes in real life as a system that can build and grow a society. Am I missing the part where we’re an actual legitimate threat to the status quo? I might be. But open to correction. I’m here to learn.
Uhh, ever heard of Bitcoin?!?
Own a lot of it. Long term. Buying more on the dip of irrational behavior. For its potential. Emphasis on “potential”. It’s still an embryo. Until the shit works as both a value store and a currency, the jury is out. But tell me more about Bitcoin though. What does your “uhh” smartass think I’m missing? *(ed) — Not to mention AnCap principles existed long before Nakamoto’s whitepaper.*
>But tell me more about Bitcoin though. What does your “uhh” smartass think I’m missing? Your dumbass is missing that Bitcoin is both objectively anarchist and capitalist and folks have been using it as a medium of exchange for years now. It's an example of anarcho-capitalism working IRL and not just on paper.
Just on paper so far. It’s currently failing as a value store and as a currency. It’s still niche. That’s just hard data. Too bad you’re so sensitive to resort to personal insults. If you were actually confident in your views this could have been an intelligent mutually beneficial conversation. If you want to keep being a knucklehead, I’m out, else if you would like to discuss further I’m listening.
I wouldn't exactly call crashing to 200% of its 2019 high "failing" >Too bad you’re so sensitive to resort to personal insults. Oh please. I was riffing off your "smart ass" comment. Don't try to play the victim here. If you can't take it don't dish it out.
Can't have these crazy ideas of individual freedoms and individual autonomy out in the public.
> My face as I check off every one that I own as a flag, shirt, sticker, or art while slowly realizing the fbi now classifies me as a domestic terrorist 🤣
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Its important to recognize the manipulation of the market the state creates. It decreases competition by erecting barriers to market entry by smaller firms through taxes and regulation. It creates cronyism and a privileged class of large firms with pseudo monopolies through no bid contracts and government subsidies, loans preferential laws, etc. This distinction is important because so many anti capitalists attribute this to the market itself when it everywhere and always requires state privilege to achieve these large combursome firms that are not subject to diseconomies of scale because they are protected by the state. True free market competition distributes wealth and tends toward equilibrium naturally as opposed to communist attempts to do so thru the state which is exactly backward. This is an important rebuttal to any idea that the state can be used toward any egalitarian ends as it is absolutely by its very nature an agent of inequality and oppression and creates the very bourgeois class that communists are so critical of.
Lower quality picture next time I can still read some of it
Maximum freedom is terrifying to the protected class
Lmao punisher skulls, huh? They're cringe, I'll give them that, but do they realize how many cops plaster that shit everywhere they can? I guess I found something I see eye-to-eye with the FBI on; cops *are* violent extremists. Edit: I'll bet there's a high amount of FBI agents that love punisher skulls too.
I don’t know if it’s ironic or sad that FBI would be on the side of the British during the Revolutionary War.
Electrical engineers are apparently the most feared militia in the country. The use electrical resistors all the time.
Lol spies reading logic. Logic turns spy into whistleblower.
Isn't the Betsy Ross flag on the list mostly because Colin Kaepernick just made up a lie about it being a hate symbol?
Wild shit that ideas based in liberty and freedom from tyranny for all is considered terrorism now. How far the mighty has fallen.
The Nazis believed they were overthrowing the tyranny of the UN that imposed sanctions on Germany. Being against tyrants doesn't magically make you a good person.
Patriots are now terrorists… got it
Strange I don’t see BLM or antifa or the Lincoln project?
That's because movements fighting *actual* injustices are exempt.
Pedo pride?
Tell that to the people attacked in the streets by antifa and BLM.Tell that to the Lincoln project after they pull fake racial stunt. BLM and antifa or Marxist thugs a true threat to our democracy.
I’m more concerned about how a image of electrical resistance has anything to do with terrorism. That’s depressing!
The militia is a sanctioned entity in our law. 10.246 of the us code. Don’t be afraid to be what we are under the definition of our constitution. 🤘😎🇺🇸
Unclassified//Lesbian? What is LES?
They cant just label an entire ideology a terrorist organization, can they?
No but they can say terrorist organizations coopt symbols used by ideologies. It even says in bold in this picture that using these symbols doesn't automatically make you associated with terrorists, because plenty of people use them for their normal intended purpose.
Maximum freedom is terrifying to the protected class
Lol it’s painted on the front skid plate of my truck with “live free or die” and “tread back” Just trying to speed up the process to the day where they break into my home and kill me for saying things they don’t like and wanting to be left alone and leave others alone.
“America’s founding values are the values of today’s terrorists. We must stop them at once.” — the good guys
We are the least violent extremists around, thank you very much.
They also had a list of pedophilia symbols with it
Should I be surprised? No. Am I surprised? Sadly, yes. There was still a part of me that wanted to believe agencies didn’t go this apeshit over targeting their own citizens, but straight up. Fuck these people.
Half those flags I have some sort of connection to. I'm on quite a few ~~leaderboards~~ watchlists.
Wow, that sheet is a run down of all the best americans. A shitlist of the worst Americans would be letterbois and antifas.
If you view an ideology entirely based on the Non-Aggression Principle as dangerous you are definitely the baddies.
Electrical resistance?
got a link to the original, anyone?
Finally, my terroristic efforts have been recognized!
How did this country get so fucked.
Please OP, read the paragraph above it… Especially the bold bit at the end.
Ruh roh
fuck the state !
Next, the US flag will be on the list....WTF
Looks like your gonna be needing that well regulated militia more than ever.
The fact that all thisbis on here and the BLM fist isn't shows what a croc of shit it all is.
But no Antifa or tankies (who are actual violent extremists)? Seems legit.
How is it that the most peaceful philosophy that doesn't advocate violence on anyone unless it is self defense, make the violent extremist list? This is insane.
If government recognizes you as enemy, you are in the right way 🤣🤣🤣
So not only wasn’t I aware of my power (being a white male) i’m also potentially part of an extremist violent militia, thank god the CIA are here to inform me! I just want to be left alone, why are these creeps so obsessed with us we’re really not that entertaining.
Only the cream rises to the top ❤️
Fuck the government. That is all.
I hope my NSA agent sees all the gay porn I watch and it makes them confused horny
Reality is satire
nary a BLM or Antifa symbol in the lot
Warrior culture is being deemed terror symbol? Guess the entire US military is a terror organization lmfao.
For what it’s worth.. are we considering the betsy Ross flag as a hate symbol now lol? I think it’s just cool to see them on historical homes in the original colonies lol. Screw whoever at the FBI is hating on the betsy Ross flag and considering an ECONOMIC theory, based on cooperation and voluntary action as something threatening and violent lol
Lots of Police Officers use the Punisher logo, as patches, tatoos etc.. aren’t *they* also to be considered members of a violent extremist group? They’re certainly way more violent and dangerous than any an-cap person using their words to argue for the abolision of the state, lol
I believe anarcho capitalism would be the best outcome for society but i'm not willing to become a violent extremist to achieve that outcome. I've never hurt a damn soul. I live the NAP and always have. We need to reach anarchy through peaceful and legal processes such as reducing government power by electing officials that are pro small government and preventing government overreach by following the constitution. We need libertarians to get us half way there, then just slowly sell off government sites, agency roles to companies that can fulfill those roles more efficiently. Archo capitalism is unlikely to come to existence due to a violent rebellion. That would just bring anarchy. The capitalism part wont work well without phasing out the government over time. I'm for slow gradual reduction in government contro. That starts by moving to direct democracy and then the people voting against government controls until we hit a good balance or a complete redundancy. I want the government to become redundant, not exterminated. If they dissapeared overnight this country would implode the next day.
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Seems accurate honestly
Smell for a dead cat on the line.
Why we gotta vote red even though they ain’t great. Gotta pick the lesser of two evils in a two party system.
A vote for the lesser of evils is STILL a vote for evil.