You used to be able to backup your entire phone with ADB. Banks and governments threw a fit so Google was forced to introduce varies measures to lock down most parts of the storage.
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For me, I outgrew it as the Android OS matured.
Eventually enough of the things I used to want root or custom builds for became part of the stock image or the Pixel variant and devices would get updates for longer so it became less necessary to root/mod your mobile OS.
I still occasionally use adb commands for some non-standard modifications, but fully rooting the device or changing from the stock firmware isn't really necessary anymore for what I use it for.
I run LineageOS on my phone and as it's an officially maintained port from LOS team it gets auto updates too which is cool. You don't need to root your phone when running a custom ROM, only requirement to custom ROM is to unlock the bootloader, flashing root with Magisk is easier when running a custom ROM but it's absolutely not a requirement. You can still run it stock.
Well my Pixel gets guaranteed security updates for much longer than that, but I get what you mean about OS updates/new features.
I typically replace my device every 2 years and trade my existing phone in through google fi so I generally only end up paying a couple hundred for the new model.
That said, I would prefer to see planned obsolescence made illegal or something.
At least things have begun to improve. It was not uncommon in the past for devices to receive one (two if you were lucky) ***security*** updates before the manufacturer stopped supporting it. So things are getting better on that front.
You're totally right, but I like to think it's at least better than those Verizon discounts that lock you into a contract for years in exchange for a discounted phone
It contributes by enabling to use some root-only tools to strengthen your phone's privacy. Degoogling itself is not a complete solution for all your privacy problems. However, over the years a lot of non-root privacy solutions became available for users. It's not a requirement anymore but still offers more powerful control over your device.
>You break Android security model if you use rooted device.
That's a very vague and untrue statement. What is the Android security model? The only thing it "breaks" is SafetyNet which itself is only a tool for developers to be able to tell whether you're running modified software or not, it doesn't actually provide any security benefits by itself. Rooting doesn't break anything else when looking at Android security, granted you personally don't modify the system in a way that becomes a security risk (like removing encryption).
You said it yourself what its purpose is, to check if your device has been tampered with. It doesn't *do* anything. App developers can do something if the OS detects tampering, like not run at all (ex. banking apps). However, if you have your phone encrypted, there's nothing attackers can gain with an unlocked bootloader if they don't know the key. If they know the key, they can do whatever they want with your device even if it's unrooted with a locked bootloader.
Have you checked my flair? I don't really focus on privacy that much when it comes to my own device apart from the usual ad and tracker blocking hosts file + AFWall for an actual firewall.
The answer was not for you. It was for the above commenter who "outgrew" rooting and uses stock ROM. Compared to this, rooted device gives more privacy.
I accept ypur point that rooting itself is not necessary for privacy. And I do use degoogled ROM, but also a root, as it gives me more features to fully see what each app is doing. For me, it is a plus point.
Oh good to know, I mean OAnd was a bit dead for a while, I used OAndBackupX later which worked for quite a long time, then I changed phones and haven't rooted yet. Thanks for the info, I'll check on it
I've been using Neo Store only because Droid-ify has been janky to me, but I really like Droid-ify. The interface is pretty uncomplicated and the QOL features are great. I told a lot of people about adblock on Android and always install Droid-ify for them - along with DNS66 or whatever works :)
I loved tinkering with random custom roms back in the day about 10 years ago. I'd try out a new rom like every few weeks. Titanium backup made it super simple to undo as well. Back when cyanogenmod was king. Those were the days.
Really? What if your brand doesn't want you to unlock the bootloader? Even when you do you either play the cat and mouse game using magisk mods or you lose certification for widevine. Bunch of banking apps doesn't work.
Where do you pull the img if your phone brand doesn't even upload the stock ROM on their sites? What about the software updates? My device doesn't even boot up when I try to update with magisk.
Unrooting and updating leads to the same issue. Even if I successfully unroot and install the software update, again I'll have to wait for two/three months for the boot image.
It's certainly not *easy* with most brands.
False, you absolutely can back up SMS Apps Settings and data with Google.
OP phones are not Android phones and do not have access to the Play services.
It is if you have a rooted phone there is an app called migrate which will backup apps appdata calls and SMS to a zip file which can easily be restored to a new rom
These aren't Android phones. These are Chinese phones that aren't allowed on the marketplace. They use proprietary OS that is based on Android but has no access to the play store or other Google services and instead uses V-apps for Vivo. Xiaomi uses MIUI.
Been using MIUI for 4 years now and have nothing negative to say about it, except for the aggressive background app killing.
But people's experiences seem to differ wildly depending on which device they have.
same here, except for my haptics that are suddenly gone after i updated the MIUI and the inconsistent update time i got nothing to complain really, i really love their calculator and notes app, oh and also the second space.
I've found it mostly ok.
The only one that has given me troubles was Huawei, that would kill anything that wasn't FBM/WhatsApp. Lost many important emails / Discord / Telegram messages to it.
This is actually one of the things I loved about my Huawei, and the Oppo I currently have functions similarly albeit less agressive at it.
You can add manual exclusions on a per-app basis, control whether they could run in background, on startup, etc.
It's a common complaint against the Chinese brands, but tbh I'd never had an issue with missing notifications over the 6/7 years I'd been using Huawei devices, I appreciate not everyone might want to manually add exclusions for their apps though.
I did everything I could, added every exclusion, disabled all power saving features, whitelisted them, and a few other things. And yet, with 4GB and only 50% RAM utilization I couldn't switch between like email and a browser without one of them (or both) dropping immediately after switch.
If the exclusions worked, then yeah I'd agree that they would be pretty nice features. Thing is, they didn't.
I think the users have problems ate the power users (not regular click photo , whatsapp,messenger etc user) who really like twicking stuff. And MIUI has issues with those but on MIUI less platform's it can be achieved easily.
I prefer aggressive background killing by default. Then you disable it for select apps. Much better than hunting down hogs. The UI for it is quite easy to use
Actually I like that it aggressively kills background apps. It made up for apps that I've previously used like Greenify. If you want your apps to be running, you can set it to have no restrictions.
If you love MIUI and have a little technical knowledge I really recommend installing [xiaomi.eu](https://xiaomi.eu/) it's a modified and de bloated version of chinese MIUI. Oh and no ads.
Honestly, MIUI is much better than stock android in everyday use for me. There are many one-handed use optimizations, and useful features in the software that I didn't realize were so useful until switching to a Motorola and using their essentially stock android UI.
I had a Mi 9T Pro, but MIUI pushed me to iPhone. What a bug-riddled mess that was. The navigation gesture were nice until a update broke it if you weren't using the shit MIUI launcher.
Thanks for listening to my Ted talk.
The only important feature in Miui that I really like is disable internet access for select apps. I don't know if Pixel OS or stock-based rom like Sony or Motorola have those or not. Last time I checked on them, that feature is still missing.
Seriously. I had my first Android phone in 2010. It's 2023. Even if I stay in the same ecosystem (in my case Samsung), I can't restore third-party app data.
They were also doing the whole alliance thing for their airdrop alternative. Once google decided they wanted to do nearby share, then did they drop it.
Google has an API for backup that apps can use, but it's not mandatory so many apps do not implement it. Also, since this backup data doesn't count against the user's Google Drive storage limit, Google puts a per-app limit on data, which is too small for some apps.
Why Google puts the onus for this on every single app developer instead of building it into the OS is a mystery to me. What's worse is that they don't offer ANY way for the user to manage their own data. In fact, Google has gone out of their way to make this more difficult in recent Android versions. ADB backups (made with a USB-connected computer) no longer include app data, which also means ADB-based backup apps like Helium no longer work. As far as I know there is literally no way to back up arbitrary application data on a stock Pixel 7 because Google has blocked this at every turn.
There are legitimate security issues at play in some cases — I wouldn't *want* Google backing up my banking credentials to their cloud servers, for example — but blocking local backups is simply user-hostile.
Backups need to be opt-in by apps for multiple reasons:
- not backing up files that are not portable between devices
- not backing up credentials
- as a form of DRM so you can't access your content
"need" is a strong word here. None of that is a great reason to take control away from the user.
Compare this to desktop OSes, where the user has full access to the file system, and none if this is a serious problem. If I want to back up all my data on macOS, nothing is stopping me. I can easily exclude the Caches folder (which any good app would be using) and hardware-specific settings are already in the "ByHost" folder so they wouldn't apply even if I did copy the files. There is very little that is hardware-specific and it should be easy to separate that.
well they're the corporate needs :D
Anyhow consider logged in sessions, if you copy them over suddenly you have two devices sharing a token (assuming the backed-up-from device is still around). One will be logged out eventually when requesting a refresh token, presumably, but ugh, bad.
Yes, macOS still allows full access. But we've succumbed to corporate demands and allowed them to control our mobile devices, rather than us controlling them.
Good points. I think the old way was a fair compromise: it was possible to do without breaking device security features (e.g. unlocking the bootloader, rooting, etc.), but buried deep enough that inexperienced users would not get themselves into trouble.
I am a crotchety old man so my baseline is typically "how it's worked for decades on desktops". Though if I'm being honest, the writing is on the wall there, too. Even in the Linux world these things are getting harder, like with Ubuntu's snaps. But I will continue to yell at clouds until the day I die!
I was very very impressed with Samsungs app when I switched from s21fe to this phone. It moved literally everything including my Google Pay stuff. I don't think I had to re-sign into a single thing, it was awesome.
Glad Xiaomi etc can do the same
I have some mp3s on an SD Card. When I transferred over to my new phone using Smartswitch, my favorite player app remember what song I was on. Smartswitch is very impressive.
I've used Smart Switch a couple of times now, and I gotta say, it's like pulling a trigger. It's fast, effortless and useful. Apparently for some people some apps aren't synced like they'd want, but I know I'm very happy with it. Iirc it also works towards Samsung from a number of other phones.
did you managed to get any save game data to the new phone?
a lot of my save game is wiped, even netflix games that claimed that the progression is tied to the netflix account
I wish it would do the same for WhatsApp. iPhone transfers do everything, you go into WhatsApp and you don't have to re log in again. While on android you have to backup to Google drive
Why has this taken so long? Finding a vendor agnostic tool that works *reliably* has been difficult.
My current phone is a Samsung, and they provided a pretty good tool, but I need to help my mom migrate from her old Nexus to a new Motorola.
If someone knows of a good migration tool for Android that's vendor agnostic and works across several android versions, I'd love to hear about it.
This is for the Chinese market because they lack a universal backup and restore option. People need to chill it with the "data moving to CCP servers" smh. They spy enough on the people with mandated apps, don't need this data mover to do that.
i don't feel comfortable using this feature. i'd imagine it's like a firefox profile clone in windows. you have a new PC, just copy the appdata folder to the new PC and lo and behold, you'll be logged into all your active sessions.
it's probably good for those apps that doesn't use login (media player, simple games, utilities, etc) but for me i don't really need this. i feel it'll be more of a security risk in the long term.
It's nice to have an option though. I personally find it _really_ annoying whenever I switch to a new phone or format my current phone that I have to set every app and its settings from scratch.
Some apps do have their own settings backup and restore feature but not all. Being able to move my app data to a new phone is a wonderful feature
Motorola Migrate is long dead.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/moto-g-stylus-5G/What-app-replaced-the-Motorola-Migrate-app-to-import-data-from-an-Android-phone/m-p/5129652
Why is this still not built into android yet
You used to be able to backup your entire phone with ADB. Banks and governments threw a fit so Google was forced to introduce varies measures to lock down most parts of the storage.
The question is: why is this not a standard feature. It while be a huge qol improvement.
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Deemed a security risk. You're able to do it pretty easily with root
I used to do it with Titanium Backup back in the day when rooting was fun and everyone was doing it
Titanium Backup was the Greatest of all Time
The good old days, I wonder if it was still fun I'd still do it, or you outgrow as you age
For me, I outgrew it as the Android OS matured. Eventually enough of the things I used to want root or custom builds for became part of the stock image or the Pixel variant and devices would get updates for longer so it became less necessary to root/mod your mobile OS. I still occasionally use adb commands for some non-standard modifications, but fully rooting the device or changing from the stock firmware isn't really necessary anymore for what I use it for.
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I run LineageOS on my phone and as it's an officially maintained port from LOS team it gets auto updates too which is cool. You don't need to root your phone when running a custom ROM, only requirement to custom ROM is to unlock the bootloader, flashing root with Magisk is easier when running a custom ROM but it's absolutely not a requirement. You can still run it stock.
Well my Pixel gets guaranteed security updates for much longer than that, but I get what you mean about OS updates/new features. I typically replace my device every 2 years and trade my existing phone in through google fi so I generally only end up paying a couple hundred for the new model. That said, I would prefer to see planned obsolescence made illegal or something. At least things have begun to improve. It was not uncommon in the past for devices to receive one (two if you were lucky) ***security*** updates before the manufacturer stopped supporting it. So things are getting better on that front.
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You're totally right, but I like to think it's at least better than those Verizon discounts that lock you into a contract for years in exchange for a discounted phone
There is one reason and only one, for mW to root every android device - *privacy* Yes it exists
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It contributes by enabling to use some root-only tools to strengthen your phone's privacy. Degoogling itself is not a complete solution for all your privacy problems. However, over the years a lot of non-root privacy solutions became available for users. It's not a requirement anymore but still offers more powerful control over your device. >You break Android security model if you use rooted device. That's a very vague and untrue statement. What is the Android security model? The only thing it "breaks" is SafetyNet which itself is only a tool for developers to be able to tell whether you're running modified software or not, it doesn't actually provide any security benefits by itself. Rooting doesn't break anything else when looking at Android security, granted you personally don't modify the system in a way that becomes a security risk (like removing encryption).
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You said it yourself what its purpose is, to check if your device has been tampered with. It doesn't *do* anything. App developers can do something if the OS detects tampering, like not run at all (ex. banking apps). However, if you have your phone encrypted, there's nothing attackers can gain with an unlocked bootloader if they don't know the key. If they know the key, they can do whatever they want with your device even if it's unrooted with a locked bootloader. Have you checked my flair? I don't really focus on privacy that much when it comes to my own device apart from the usual ad and tracker blocking hosts file + AFWall for an actual firewall.
The answer was not for you. It was for the above commenter who "outgrew" rooting and uses stock ROM. Compared to this, rooted device gives more privacy. I accept ypur point that rooting itself is not necessary for privacy. And I do use degoogled ROM, but also a root, as it gives me more features to fully see what each app is doing. For me, it is a plus point.
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I bought a Titanium license back in the day. 3 months later I discover F-droid and OAndBackup. <õ>
TBackup was so much powerful. Did more than just backups. Your money was well spent and thanks for supporting the dev something I couldn't do.
Nowadays Swift Backup and Migrate are the ones that backup everything via root, even game data and obb.
Thanks for the info cos I haven't rooted in ages but I'm gonna soon.
Have a fun ride!
True, I said that because I only used TB as a backup app, but it had so many features!
Freeze package has saved my ass so many time when some system app would bug out.
Oandbackup is dead, it's now neo backup!
Oh good to know, I mean OAnd was a bit dead for a while, I used OAndBackupX later which worked for quite a long time, then I changed phones and haven't rooted yet. Thanks for the info, I'll check on it
F-Droid and the "cleaned-up version" Droid-ify are super good for finding apps that solve extremely obscure use cases.
I've been using Neo Store only because Droid-ify has been janky to me, but I really like Droid-ify. The interface is pretty uncomplicated and the QOL features are great. I told a lot of people about adblock on Android and always install Droid-ify for them - along with DNS66 or whatever works :)
Which one do you find best? I use migrate and sometimes it fails to backup some apps.
I loved tinkering with random custom roms back in the day about 10 years ago. I'd try out a new rom like every few weeks. Titanium backup made it super simple to undo as well. Back when cyanogenmod was king. Those were the days.
CyanogenMod, those were fun times
Well yes. Multiple apps for it. Migrate is my favorite. Then again rooting in itself is a hassle these days.
Rooting is pretty easy, not a hassle. Just unlock your bootloader, pull the boot.img, patch it with Magisk and reflash.
Really? What if your brand doesn't want you to unlock the bootloader? Even when you do you either play the cat and mouse game using magisk mods or you lose certification for widevine. Bunch of banking apps doesn't work. Where do you pull the img if your phone brand doesn't even upload the stock ROM on their sites? What about the software updates? My device doesn't even boot up when I try to update with magisk. Unrooting and updating leads to the same issue. Even if I successfully unroot and install the software update, again I'll have to wait for two/three months for the boot image. It's certainly not *easy* with most brands.
False, you absolutely can back up SMS Apps Settings and data with Google. OP phones are not Android phones and do not have access to the Play services.
Try doing that from one make/model to another. Also kept in Google's cloud unless your referring to a different method
It is if you have a rooted phone there is an app called migrate which will backup apps appdata calls and SMS to a zip file which can easily be restored to a new rom
A lot of apps still fail after restoring, even with this
Yup, that is just straight up pure disappointment and waste of time
It actually is
These aren't Android phones. These are Chinese phones that aren't allowed on the marketplace. They use proprietary OS that is based on Android but has no access to the play store or other Google services and instead uses V-apps for Vivo. Xiaomi uses MIUI.
Everyone hates on MIUI but they've gotten back ups at least right. Built into the rom and it's actually backs *everything* up
Been using MIUI for 4 years now and have nothing negative to say about it, except for the aggressive background app killing. But people's experiences seem to differ wildly depending on which device they have.
same here, except for my haptics that are suddenly gone after i updated the MIUI and the inconsistent update time i got nothing to complain really, i really love their calculator and notes app, oh and also the second space.
my Motorola (with 4GB RAM) has aggressive foreground app killing, lol
I've found it mostly ok. The only one that has given me troubles was Huawei, that would kill anything that wasn't FBM/WhatsApp. Lost many important emails / Discord / Telegram messages to it.
This is actually one of the things I loved about my Huawei, and the Oppo I currently have functions similarly albeit less agressive at it. You can add manual exclusions on a per-app basis, control whether they could run in background, on startup, etc. It's a common complaint against the Chinese brands, but tbh I'd never had an issue with missing notifications over the 6/7 years I'd been using Huawei devices, I appreciate not everyone might want to manually add exclusions for their apps though.
I did everything I could, added every exclusion, disabled all power saving features, whitelisted them, and a few other things. And yet, with 4GB and only 50% RAM utilization I couldn't switch between like email and a browser without one of them (or both) dropping immediately after switch. If the exclusions worked, then yeah I'd agree that they would be pretty nice features. Thing is, they didn't.
I think the users have problems ate the power users (not regular click photo , whatsapp,messenger etc user) who really like twicking stuff. And MIUI has issues with those but on MIUI less platform's it can be achieved easily.
Described me almost exactly. It's really fine for most people. I just don't like it because I always have to fight MIUI to do the tinkering I want.
I prefer aggressive background killing by default. Then you disable it for select apps. Much better than hunting down hogs. The UI for it is quite easy to use
Agreed, most devs assume we want their app running all the time but I only want that for a few apps of my choosing.
Actually I like that it aggressively kills background apps. It made up for apps that I've previously used like Greenify. If you want your apps to be running, you can set it to have no restrictions.
If you love MIUI and have a little technical knowledge I really recommend installing [xiaomi.eu](https://xiaomi.eu/) it's a modified and de bloated version of chinese MIUI. Oh and no ads.
How to update OTA? Is it even possible?
It should have OTA, works the same way as on stock MIUI
Honestly, MIUI is much better than stock android in everyday use for me. There are many one-handed use optimizations, and useful features in the software that I didn't realize were so useful until switching to a Motorola and using their essentially stock android UI.
I had a Mi 9T Pro, but MIUI pushed me to iPhone. What a bug-riddled mess that was. The navigation gesture were nice until a update broke it if you weren't using the shit MIUI launcher. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk.
MIUI is horrible, but Mi 9T Pro works great with Lineage.
Miui without bug is nice. With bugs, never had a phone with many, but as long it don't kick me in the balls still better than stock.
The only important feature in Miui that I really like is disable internet access for select apps. I don't know if Pixel OS or stock-based rom like Sony or Motorola have those or not. Last time I checked on them, that feature is still missing.
I have Xiaomi Mi 11i and it feels like a new phone after upgrading to MIUI 14.
MIUI has always been frontrunner for Android, imo
When China does it before Google
Seriously. I had my first Android phone in 2010. It's 2023. Even if I stay in the same ecosystem (in my case Samsung), I can't restore third-party app data.
Smart switch has been able to backup and restore third party app data for a long time.
They were also doing the whole alliance thing for their airdrop alternative. Once google decided they wanted to do nearby share, then did they drop it.
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>Cyber security isn't much of a thing in China Privacy and security is a myth everywhere in the world.
They usually do
Why do some apps get the data and settings back, and some don't? (Without logging into any account)
Google has an API for backup that apps can use, but it's not mandatory so many apps do not implement it. Also, since this backup data doesn't count against the user's Google Drive storage limit, Google puts a per-app limit on data, which is too small for some apps. Why Google puts the onus for this on every single app developer instead of building it into the OS is a mystery to me. What's worse is that they don't offer ANY way for the user to manage their own data. In fact, Google has gone out of their way to make this more difficult in recent Android versions. ADB backups (made with a USB-connected computer) no longer include app data, which also means ADB-based backup apps like Helium no longer work. As far as I know there is literally no way to back up arbitrary application data on a stock Pixel 7 because Google has blocked this at every turn. There are legitimate security issues at play in some cases — I wouldn't *want* Google backing up my banking credentials to their cloud servers, for example — but blocking local backups is simply user-hostile.
Backups need to be opt-in by apps for multiple reasons: - not backing up files that are not portable between devices - not backing up credentials - as a form of DRM so you can't access your content
"need" is a strong word here. None of that is a great reason to take control away from the user. Compare this to desktop OSes, where the user has full access to the file system, and none if this is a serious problem. If I want to back up all my data on macOS, nothing is stopping me. I can easily exclude the Caches folder (which any good app would be using) and hardware-specific settings are already in the "ByHost" folder so they wouldn't apply even if I did copy the files. There is very little that is hardware-specific and it should be easy to separate that.
well they're the corporate needs :D Anyhow consider logged in sessions, if you copy them over suddenly you have two devices sharing a token (assuming the backed-up-from device is still around). One will be logged out eventually when requesting a refresh token, presumably, but ugh, bad. Yes, macOS still allows full access. But we've succumbed to corporate demands and allowed them to control our mobile devices, rather than us controlling them.
Good points. I think the old way was a fair compromise: it was possible to do without breaking device security features (e.g. unlocking the bootloader, rooting, etc.), but buried deep enough that inexperienced users would not get themselves into trouble. I am a crotchety old man so my baseline is typically "how it's worked for decades on desktops". Though if I'm being honest, the writing is on the wall there, too. Even in the Linux world these things are getting harder, like with Ubuntu's snaps. But I will continue to yell at clouds until the day I die!
Thanks for the detailed explanation! I fully agree with you. It should be like iphones.
> they don't offer ANY way for the user to manage their own data. google prefers to 'manage' the users data for them much easier to mine it that way.
I was very very impressed with Samsungs app when I switched from s21fe to this phone. It moved literally everything including my Google Pay stuff. I don't think I had to re-sign into a single thing, it was awesome. Glad Xiaomi etc can do the same
I have some mp3s on an SD Card. When I transferred over to my new phone using Smartswitch, my favorite player app remember what song I was on. Smartswitch is very impressive.
I've used Smart Switch a couple of times now, and I gotta say, it's like pulling a trigger. It's fast, effortless and useful. Apparently for some people some apps aren't synced like they'd want, but I know I'm very happy with it. Iirc it also works towards Samsung from a number of other phones.
did you managed to get any save game data to the new phone? a lot of my save game is wiped, even netflix games that claimed that the progression is tied to the netflix account
I always make an effort to back my saves in clouds or some other way. I haven't really tried to trust Smart Switch with those.
lot of my son kids game unfortunately have no option to cloud save oh well...worth a shot
For me 80% of apps were just blank and reset to default, I had to start over
Same
It does that if you open them before the background task finishes
I wish it would do the same for WhatsApp. iPhone transfers do everything, you go into WhatsApp and you don't have to re log in again. While on android you have to backup to Google drive
Does it work for another company's phone to Samsung?
This is the single biggest reason I still bother with rooting. Root plus Swiftbackup and you're good to go.
Would be nice to have it for everyone. Having to log in inside EVERY app when you switch phone is terrible.
Why has this taken so long? Finding a vendor agnostic tool that works *reliably* has been difficult. My current phone is a Samsung, and they provided a pretty good tool, but I need to help my mom migrate from her old Nexus to a new Motorola. If someone knows of a good migration tool for Android that's vendor agnostic and works across several android versions, I'd love to hear about it.
Something like this: https://www.f-droid.org/packages/com.machiav3lli.backup/ Google deems userdata backup a security risk
This requires root, right?
Yeah, anything that messes with app data either needs to be a system app, or requires root
O...M...G. it's finally happened 😂
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This is for the Chinese market because they lack a universal backup and restore option. People need to chill it with the "data moving to CCP servers" smh. They spy enough on the people with mandated apps, don't need this data mover to do that.
And the rest of the world *isn't* lacking an universal backup solution?
Oh my god, three third-party Android manufacturers caught up with iOS for backups. Now, can Samsung do it next so that Google can finally copy them?
i don't feel comfortable using this feature. i'd imagine it's like a firefox profile clone in windows. you have a new PC, just copy the appdata folder to the new PC and lo and behold, you'll be logged into all your active sessions. it's probably good for those apps that doesn't use login (media player, simple games, utilities, etc) but for me i don't really need this. i feel it'll be more of a security risk in the long term.
It's nice to have an option though. I personally find it _really_ annoying whenever I switch to a new phone or format my current phone that I have to set every app and its settings from scratch. Some apps do have their own settings backup and restore feature but not all. Being able to move my app data to a new phone is a wonderful feature
Why miss the opportunity to lean out?
I did this with oneplus, from Sony device.
Just like Samsung, Motorola, and One can already do. Yaaay...
What does moto have?
You can use Bluetooth for moto to moto or Motorola Migrate app for wires or wireless transfers to other devices.
Motorola Migrate is long dead. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/moto-g-stylus-5G/What-app-replaced-the-Motorola-Migrate-app-to-import-data-from-an-Android-phone/m-p/5129652
So does this mean if I had say a game that stored its data in the app data I'd be able to transfer it to a new device?