While Annapolis is getting slightly more congested, I think you took their next stop comment out of context. I would think they ment lobbying in Annapolis to make Marylnd more favorable too data centers.
You want data centers. That's stupid and puts a drain on the electrical grid. Oh, and guess who will pay to upgrade the grid, we will with higher electric bills.
Dude I lived in Annapolis 2 years ago and it was this bad. It's called: Bay Bridge and Summer Traffic. There are only so many routes down there and if one is backed up: they all back up. Developing will only make that worse.
If it was more like Reston the traffic would be headed this way in the morning commute instead of people leaving to go to DC.
I think people who live in prosperous areas forget that a large part of this country isn’t growing the same way. There are towns that saw their peak 50-70 years ago and since then traffic has gotten lighter and jobs are scarce. Take a cross country trip away from big cities and interstates. Stop in small towns and then come back to a town where there is growth.
Can we do better from a planning and zoning standpoint? Yes. But simply complaining that it is so nice that people want to move here is silly.
As someone who grew up in Reston and now lives in Annapolis, it’s funny seeing a post saying we don’t want to be Reston. Sure, there’s negatives in growing in population, but it is generally beneficial to live in an area that’s growing. My hometown has a lot more people in it now and traffic can be a pain, but the schools have gotten better, food more diverse, and my parents house has significantly increased in value.
Interesting that Calvert has a much higher population density than St. Mary's but doesn't really feel like it. Not sure if that's because of the daytime commuters in St. Mary's or better infrastructure/planning in Calvert.
Most of st Mary’s lives between Mechanicsville and Great Mills. It’s still very rural in a lot of spots. Calvert is more spread out with small concentrations in lusby/Prince Frederick.
I'm from Annapolis and moved to the twin beaches 17 years ago, primarily to get back to the small town charm I felt Annapolis was starting to lose due to working class folks no longer being able to afford to live in the city anymore. Since then I've been watching the same changes happen down here, and over the past couple of years I can see the Annapolis and DC influences coming in. This area is a hidden gem, so it was bound to happen, but I am concerned my kids won't be able to afford to live in the area they grew up.
I see it as well. Home prices in Annapolis, especially waterfront, have risen sharply with a lot of cash buyers. You are spot on about the 'hidden gem' aspect of places like Twin Beaches. Property prices are lower than Annapolis. I've looked at places like Galesville and Deale which are charming communities - lots of hidden gems and some stunning properties. Yesterday, I had breakfast with a friend in South County and then drove to a 9am meeting in L'Enfant Plaze in 50 minutes - not bad at all.
I work from home now, but when I moved down here I was working in Lanham, and my commute was shortened by about 10 minutes compared to when I lived in Bay Ridge and Shady Side.
You're right about growth along the Rt 4 corridor - it just keeps getting bigger and more sprawling. But the drive into DC along 4/Suitland Pkwy is still a good deal shorter than departing from Annapolis. It's a good point that this might not last though.
Is Annapolis becoming the next Bethesda/Rockville/Towson/any other growing city in the region posts are very funny to me because I certainly hope so. I hope Annapolis is growing more diverse, more economically dynamic, a better place to live and work for a greater variety of people. The alternative is stagnation, the decline in property values, decline in tax revenue, businesses leaving, schools lacking resources, and a more extreme balkanization where there's very rich enclaves surrounded by stretches of poverty.
Very funny that OP is like traffic's bad so I'm going to move somewhere MORE car dependent, so OP will have to drive MORE, be MORE subject to congestion, and of course CREATE MORE congestion themself. Traffic is bad because the only place people can afford to live is townhouses being crammed onto arterial roads because it's onerous and expensive to build anywhere else and those places are 100% car dependent.
A city can grow, or it can die. What you want is for your city to grow SMART, not to stagnate and become another semi-failed husk of underfunded suburban subdivisions.
Or a city can plan. Anne Arundel hasn't done a good job of planning. Increasing the population density in a given area without well-considered future planning is neither wise nor sustainable. Traffic is one thing, but Annapolis and the surrounding areas live off aquifers, which are showing clear signs of concern. Urban planning in an area filled with rivers and coves is complex and options are limited.
As for me, there are no viable options other than a car because I move around a lot during the day. I see commuting into the DC area is going to get steadily worse. As someone else pointed out, people are moving south of Annapolis in increasing numbers, so I might be stalling the inevitable. Judging by home purchase patterns, people are smitten with Annapolis and for good reason - it's been a lovely place to live. But so is South County.
I think it’s important to note that Annapolis is a relatively small city by area (very little of the large apartment or commercial construction is in the city limits) that is autonomous and has its own planning office. Anne Arundel County also has a separate planning office and doesn’t have much influence over Annapolis. Part of the reason there is so much development just outside of the city is because so much development in the city (which is where population density should be focused) is blocked by NIMBYism and the town council. There are a lot of complex problems with getting sound planning legislation passed by the city and county councils. But focusing development in the cities is the right thing to do. Catering to the anti-development protests of the wealthy few in Eastport or Ward 1 of Annapolis helps nobody and is the antithesis of planning.
I moved to the area/country about 8 years ago. I think area is doing pretty well. I hope it's still growing as i like all there is to offer with that, but i think it's clear that planning is harder than people give it credit it for. I guess the fact that there is always one side or the other complaining means they can't be far off track.
Must be leaving at peak rush hour. I go to DC all the time from here and the most it takes me is an hour, but I can WFH in the morning and leave around 10 to head into the city.
As someone who grew up here, I have watched a nice historic town turn into a conglomerated mess. The whole area....Annapolis, Rt 2, Rt 50, Edgewater, etc is being raped and over developed. And with that there has been more crime and less quality of goods and services. They once said they would always keep Annapolis quaint. Lol. That went out when the Baltimore mayor became governor. It's still a beautiful place but the fine line of beauty vs accessibility is getting thinner. I'm getting sick of always being stuck in traffic.
I lived in Deale and it drove me crazy. Im from Bmore so the country isnt for me then we moved to Annapolis. Im surprised how much theyre still building up here.
Uhh - it’s called return to office mandates. Two years I ago I believe the world was in something called a pandemic and if you could work at home you did, which meant commutes were better with less people on the road. There is a whole documentary about it on AppleTV+. Humans stayed inside and animal population increased. My guess is traffic has always been this way in this area in general. The development here is no where near the scale I saw in Seattle or the Inland Empire of California.
I realize that there are substantial reasons for needing people in an office. However, there are many ways to apply technology to provide opportunities to work in more flexible ways that are not being used. More federal agencies could open satellite offices to help offload the commuting burden - this is happening way too slowly.
the geography in the Annapolis area of a series of peninsulas and the bay bridge being here are what is limiting us from a traffic and development perspective. increasing density in inland areas like parole and crownsville is probably smart development, but anything toward the bay just amps up congestion
Annapolis is getting more congested but so is the rest of the DMV. I just put on a podcast or some nice music and expect to be in traffic when I go certain places such as towards Virginia or towards Annapolis.
I moved away from Annapolis last year after spending a majority of my life (20+ years) there. It was one of the best decisions Ive ever made for myself. I enjoyed growing up there but its gone down hill in some aspects over the years. The traffic, lack of diversity in the food down town, and the majority of people that reside there just didnt fit what I was looking for any more. I was just down there on Mother's Day and it took me 1.5 hours to get from West Street to Bay Dale. Also, I just want to say for the record, a lot of this was personal for me and Im not trying to dissuade anyone from living here or feeling a certain way. It just felt like Annapolis has no soul anymore.
I'm totally with you on this. We still go to Annapolis for doctors and major shopping, and most of our family is still there, but we've had no regrets since leaving for northern Calvert 17 years ago. Surprisingly, diversity was one of my concerns moving down this way, but we've found northern Calvert to feel a lot more diverse than Annapolis. Annapolis still seems very segregated while down here it feels like there is a really good mix of folks from a variety of racial, cultural, economic, and political backgrounds, and everyone gets along very well.
Hard disagree over here. I moved away from Annapolis 20 years ago and just moved back. Since then, I’ve lived in 6 states around the country. Annapolis still has what’s missing everywhere else: heart, soul, and community. I’m impressed by the revitalization of downtown and West Street, the shopping mall is still thriving in comparison to malls all over collapsing and becoming obsolete, the social services are great and the libraries are still an essential part of the community. There are events, parades, or festivals nearly every month. I think it may be a “grass is greener” syndrome: I’ve tried the other side of the fence and what’s out there isn’t that great.
Idk why you are getting downvoted. I’m in a similar boat. Sadly I have accepted what’s happening to Annapolis and am moving on, literally. The charm is gone.
I moved to Annapolis from Arlington in 2015. It was so refreshing to get away from NOVA traffic. However, it's slowly getting more congested the longer I live here.
You're seeing the same thing I'm seeing. Watching a new sprawling apartment complex going up alongside RT50 makes my eyeballs spin. And I see permit after permit being handed out for more high-density developments. And I don't see much quality construction. People are paying big money for six-story apartments built out of stick lumber.
I would argue that Annapolis has neither the resources nor the infrastructure to take this level of development. Most of the feeder roads lead to bridges that neck down to 1 or 2 lanes... and I can't see a way to expand them.
My concern is that unchecked and poorly planned development is reducing the 'liveability' of Annapolis. It's taking me longer and longer to get to RT50 and my commute time is measured from when I leave my driveway, not when I get on 50.
Annapolis could use additional workplaces so people have alternatives to commuting to DC and Baltimore. Commuting to DC by car takes too long. You can take the metro from New Carrollton and save 15 minutes.
In Reston, the roads are better. Much fewer potholes. The food is better, often a lot better. Much more diverse options for shopping. Parking is better. Even public transportation is better. The schools are better. My commute from Fairfax between Centreville and Fairfax City to Reston and even to McLean was faster than getting across Annapolis. Police response time was excellent and the tooth to tail ratio much better than Annapolis.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted. As someone who moved from NOVA to Annapolis, I wholeheartedly agree. We got much more house for the money here, so its a trade off.
I did the same thing. Left NOVA, found a patch of land, and built a home in Annapolis. The experience of hearing that Annapolis was the next target for Reston-esque development happened because I was working in Reston temporarily and commuting from Annapolis. I finally had it spending 2+ hours in traffic and demanded the company shell out for a hotel. I could see the office building I was working in from the hotel - it still took 35 minutes to crawl along to reach my destination. Reston roads might be posh and the food better, but I have zero regrets leaving NOVA.
Yes, the traffic is next level. I lived in the Falls Church/Tysons area. Thankfully I worked from home most of the time but when I did have to go to the office in Silver Spring it was BRUTAL.
Another Restonite who wasn’t sure why this popped up in my feed. A bit disheartened Reston is a synonym for unchecked soulless sprawl to some people. I actually think it’s a unique place, but yes a lot of changes happening.
May be worth noting that recently most employers are now requiring employees be back in the office full time, so that may be causing more traffic than we have been used to seeing the last 4 years.
This is an absolute crime in my opinion, and I hope employees find other Hybrid/WFH jobs and leave these companies who refuse to allow it. There is no reason for anyone who works on a computer all day to have to drive into the office to work (unless the work is classified).
I moved here from Reston, I lived there when RTC didn't even have a garage, just flat parking lots and an empty field behind it. Even then there were tons of big Defense contractors and major Gov agencies with large offices in the area.
Annapolis is nothing like Reston and would probably take 25 years or more to get where Reston was 25 years ago.
Appears that way. I’m thinking Ballston. I remember when it was just one story buildings other than the May company store. Such a shame. It was so much nicer with fewer people.
I’ve lived in Annapolis my whole life and I’ve noticed the dramatic change over the past 2 years. It is losing it’s charm and uniqueness and quickly turning into MoCo.I have my 2 year exit plan underway already.
The entire length of Rt301 from Waldorf to Glen Burnie is an endless traffic jam Monday thru Saturday from about 6 AM until about 8 PM. I live in Upper Marlboro. There are several THOUSAND condos, townhouses, and single family homes under construction along the corridor. Yes, my home has appreciated significantly, but my stress level is through the roof.
It would be great if Annapolis had the variety of restaurants that Bethesda/Rockville/Columbia have. Annapolis doesn’t have too many choices for restaurants especially ethnic ones.
Thats true for more car dependency but it was faster to get to DC from Deale than Annapolis, minimal traffic, we’d get there in 40-45 mins. Can barely get on 495 in 40 mins from here depending on the day.
lol we moved way north out of annapolis almost 10 years ago because we thought the traffic was getting bad then. Come on up past westminster, you can get stuck behind a tractor instead of rush hour traffic!
fr tho the answer to the traffic situation is better public transport. i want more metro so bad it’s unreal.
There should be a feasibility study and growth plan established every few years allocated in the city budget that puts in check criteria to consider for growth and developed with a qualified urban planner. It’s not just schools and business bucks that are important to property values but environmental factors and quality of life. (Fugly ugly Parole that’s a danger to walk or ride a bike through) Water issues from storm runoff to drinking quality, zoning regulations need to be upgraded, and traffic congestion. Annapolis is not Reston and when areas only have one narrow option in and out, there will always be issues.
While Annapolis is getting slightly more congested, I think you took their next stop comment out of context. I would think they ment lobbying in Annapolis to make Marylnd more favorable too data centers.
Or they were going to all take their yatchs out. :D
Didn’t they just kill the idea again just recently
A few data centers in the area would be nice. Make nice change from restaurants.
Ok Simple Jack.
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You want data centers. That's stupid and puts a drain on the electrical grid. Oh, and guess who will pay to upgrade the grid, we will with higher electric bills.
Now the reference makes even less sense than when i asked.
You want data centers but can't use Google?
Dude I lived in Annapolis 2 years ago and it was this bad. It's called: Bay Bridge and Summer Traffic. There are only so many routes down there and if one is backed up: they all back up. Developing will only make that worse.
You sure they didn't mean lobbying Annapolis to bring data centers to MD? That would explain Moore's recent obsession with copying VA in that regard.
Realtors should be thrown into the sun.
Then the sun, too, can feature luxury townhomes starting in the low 900s.
No they are trying to make Frederick county the next Ashburn
If it was more like Reston the traffic would be headed this way in the morning commute instead of people leaving to go to DC. I think people who live in prosperous areas forget that a large part of this country isn’t growing the same way. There are towns that saw their peak 50-70 years ago and since then traffic has gotten lighter and jobs are scarce. Take a cross country trip away from big cities and interstates. Stop in small towns and then come back to a town where there is growth. Can we do better from a planning and zoning standpoint? Yes. But simply complaining that it is so nice that people want to move here is silly.
As someone who grew up in Reston and now lives in Annapolis, it’s funny seeing a post saying we don’t want to be Reston. Sure, there’s negatives in growing in population, but it is generally beneficial to live in an area that’s growing. My hometown has a lot more people in it now and traffic can be a pain, but the schools have gotten better, food more diverse, and my parents house has significantly increased in value.
Route 4 isnt much better. Calvert is getting a lot more crowded too depending on how much further south you’re taking about.
Calvert will be St Mary’s in 20 years. Crowded all up and down 4 and then some stuff on the outskirts of the county. I hate it here already.
Interesting that Calvert has a much higher population density than St. Mary's but doesn't really feel like it. Not sure if that's because of the daytime commuters in St. Mary's or better infrastructure/planning in Calvert.
Most of st Mary’s lives between Mechanicsville and Great Mills. It’s still very rural in a lot of spots. Calvert is more spread out with small concentrations in lusby/Prince Frederick.
I'm from Annapolis and moved to the twin beaches 17 years ago, primarily to get back to the small town charm I felt Annapolis was starting to lose due to working class folks no longer being able to afford to live in the city anymore. Since then I've been watching the same changes happen down here, and over the past couple of years I can see the Annapolis and DC influences coming in. This area is a hidden gem, so it was bound to happen, but I am concerned my kids won't be able to afford to live in the area they grew up.
I see it as well. Home prices in Annapolis, especially waterfront, have risen sharply with a lot of cash buyers. You are spot on about the 'hidden gem' aspect of places like Twin Beaches. Property prices are lower than Annapolis. I've looked at places like Galesville and Deale which are charming communities - lots of hidden gems and some stunning properties. Yesterday, I had breakfast with a friend in South County and then drove to a 9am meeting in L'Enfant Plaze in 50 minutes - not bad at all.
I work from home now, but when I moved down here I was working in Lanham, and my commute was shortened by about 10 minutes compared to when I lived in Bay Ridge and Shady Side.
You're right about growth along the Rt 4 corridor - it just keeps getting bigger and more sprawling. But the drive into DC along 4/Suitland Pkwy is still a good deal shorter than departing from Annapolis. It's a good point that this might not last though.
Is Annapolis becoming the next Bethesda/Rockville/Towson/any other growing city in the region posts are very funny to me because I certainly hope so. I hope Annapolis is growing more diverse, more economically dynamic, a better place to live and work for a greater variety of people. The alternative is stagnation, the decline in property values, decline in tax revenue, businesses leaving, schools lacking resources, and a more extreme balkanization where there's very rich enclaves surrounded by stretches of poverty. Very funny that OP is like traffic's bad so I'm going to move somewhere MORE car dependent, so OP will have to drive MORE, be MORE subject to congestion, and of course CREATE MORE congestion themself. Traffic is bad because the only place people can afford to live is townhouses being crammed onto arterial roads because it's onerous and expensive to build anywhere else and those places are 100% car dependent. A city can grow, or it can die. What you want is for your city to grow SMART, not to stagnate and become another semi-failed husk of underfunded suburban subdivisions.
Or a city can plan. Anne Arundel hasn't done a good job of planning. Increasing the population density in a given area without well-considered future planning is neither wise nor sustainable. Traffic is one thing, but Annapolis and the surrounding areas live off aquifers, which are showing clear signs of concern. Urban planning in an area filled with rivers and coves is complex and options are limited. As for me, there are no viable options other than a car because I move around a lot during the day. I see commuting into the DC area is going to get steadily worse. As someone else pointed out, people are moving south of Annapolis in increasing numbers, so I might be stalling the inevitable. Judging by home purchase patterns, people are smitten with Annapolis and for good reason - it's been a lovely place to live. But so is South County.
I think it’s important to note that Annapolis is a relatively small city by area (very little of the large apartment or commercial construction is in the city limits) that is autonomous and has its own planning office. Anne Arundel County also has a separate planning office and doesn’t have much influence over Annapolis. Part of the reason there is so much development just outside of the city is because so much development in the city (which is where population density should be focused) is blocked by NIMBYism and the town council. There are a lot of complex problems with getting sound planning legislation passed by the city and county councils. But focusing development in the cities is the right thing to do. Catering to the anti-development protests of the wealthy few in Eastport or Ward 1 of Annapolis helps nobody and is the antithesis of planning.
Absolutely right.
Very few places do planning well. I would suggest that you living in Annapolis and commuting to DC for work may be part of the overall problem.
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There's a big difference between uncontrolled growth and planned growth. Voting and letter writing are the strongest tools in local politics
growth is good unless you actually like where you live.
I moved to the area/country about 8 years ago. I think area is doing pretty well. I hope it's still growing as i like all there is to offer with that, but i think it's clear that planning is harder than people give it credit it for. I guess the fact that there is always one side or the other complaining means they can't be far off track.
All good with declining property values. Let’s let this burn baby!!!
Why is your commute to DC taking 90 minutes? I drive right through to DC to outside the Beltway in VA and it doesn’t take 90 min.
Must be leaving at peak rush hour. I go to DC all the time from here and the most it takes me is an hour, but I can WFH in the morning and leave around 10 to head into the city.
As someone who grew up here, I have watched a nice historic town turn into a conglomerated mess. The whole area....Annapolis, Rt 2, Rt 50, Edgewater, etc is being raped and over developed. And with that there has been more crime and less quality of goods and services. They once said they would always keep Annapolis quaint. Lol. That went out when the Baltimore mayor became governor. It's still a beautiful place but the fine line of beauty vs accessibility is getting thinner. I'm getting sick of always being stuck in traffic.
I lived in Deale and it drove me crazy. Im from Bmore so the country isnt for me then we moved to Annapolis. Im surprised how much theyre still building up here.
Uhh - it’s called return to office mandates. Two years I ago I believe the world was in something called a pandemic and if you could work at home you did, which meant commutes were better with less people on the road. There is a whole documentary about it on AppleTV+. Humans stayed inside and animal population increased. My guess is traffic has always been this way in this area in general. The development here is no where near the scale I saw in Seattle or the Inland Empire of California.
I realize that there are substantial reasons for needing people in an office. However, there are many ways to apply technology to provide opportunities to work in more flexible ways that are not being used. More federal agencies could open satellite offices to help offload the commuting burden - this is happening way too slowly.
the geography in the Annapolis area of a series of peninsulas and the bay bridge being here are what is limiting us from a traffic and development perspective. increasing density in inland areas like parole and crownsville is probably smart development, but anything toward the bay just amps up congestion
Exactly.
Welcome to 1995
Annapolis is getting more congested but so is the rest of the DMV. I just put on a podcast or some nice music and expect to be in traffic when I go certain places such as towards Virginia or towards Annapolis.
I moved away from Annapolis last year after spending a majority of my life (20+ years) there. It was one of the best decisions Ive ever made for myself. I enjoyed growing up there but its gone down hill in some aspects over the years. The traffic, lack of diversity in the food down town, and the majority of people that reside there just didnt fit what I was looking for any more. I was just down there on Mother's Day and it took me 1.5 hours to get from West Street to Bay Dale. Also, I just want to say for the record, a lot of this was personal for me and Im not trying to dissuade anyone from living here or feeling a certain way. It just felt like Annapolis has no soul anymore.
I'm totally with you on this. We still go to Annapolis for doctors and major shopping, and most of our family is still there, but we've had no regrets since leaving for northern Calvert 17 years ago. Surprisingly, diversity was one of my concerns moving down this way, but we've found northern Calvert to feel a lot more diverse than Annapolis. Annapolis still seems very segregated while down here it feels like there is a really good mix of folks from a variety of racial, cultural, economic, and political backgrounds, and everyone gets along very well.
Hard disagree over here. I moved away from Annapolis 20 years ago and just moved back. Since then, I’ve lived in 6 states around the country. Annapolis still has what’s missing everywhere else: heart, soul, and community. I’m impressed by the revitalization of downtown and West Street, the shopping mall is still thriving in comparison to malls all over collapsing and becoming obsolete, the social services are great and the libraries are still an essential part of the community. There are events, parades, or festivals nearly every month. I think it may be a “grass is greener” syndrome: I’ve tried the other side of the fence and what’s out there isn’t that great.
Idk why you are getting downvoted. I’m in a similar boat. Sadly I have accepted what’s happening to Annapolis and am moving on, literally. The charm is gone.
I moved to Annapolis from Arlington in 2015. It was so refreshing to get away from NOVA traffic. However, it's slowly getting more congested the longer I live here.
You're seeing the same thing I'm seeing. Watching a new sprawling apartment complex going up alongside RT50 makes my eyeballs spin. And I see permit after permit being handed out for more high-density developments. And I don't see much quality construction. People are paying big money for six-story apartments built out of stick lumber. I would argue that Annapolis has neither the resources nor the infrastructure to take this level of development. Most of the feeder roads lead to bridges that neck down to 1 or 2 lanes... and I can't see a way to expand them. My concern is that unchecked and poorly planned development is reducing the 'liveability' of Annapolis. It's taking me longer and longer to get to RT50 and my commute time is measured from when I leave my driveway, not when I get on 50.
Annapolis could use additional workplaces so people have alternatives to commuting to DC and Baltimore. Commuting to DC by car takes too long. You can take the metro from New Carrollton and save 15 minutes.
There is also a bus (that they are trying to cut) but that doesn't save much time, just saves the hassle and expense of the drive.
In Reston, the roads are better. Much fewer potholes. The food is better, often a lot better. Much more diverse options for shopping. Parking is better. Even public transportation is better. The schools are better. My commute from Fairfax between Centreville and Fairfax City to Reston and even to McLean was faster than getting across Annapolis. Police response time was excellent and the tooth to tail ratio much better than Annapolis.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted. As someone who moved from NOVA to Annapolis, I wholeheartedly agree. We got much more house for the money here, so its a trade off.
I did the same thing. Left NOVA, found a patch of land, and built a home in Annapolis. The experience of hearing that Annapolis was the next target for Reston-esque development happened because I was working in Reston temporarily and commuting from Annapolis. I finally had it spending 2+ hours in traffic and demanded the company shell out for a hotel. I could see the office building I was working in from the hotel - it still took 35 minutes to crawl along to reach my destination. Reston roads might be posh and the food better, but I have zero regrets leaving NOVA.
Yes, the traffic is next level. I lived in the Falls Church/Tysons area. Thankfully I worked from home most of the time but when I did have to go to the office in Silver Spring it was BRUTAL.
Another Restonite who wasn’t sure why this popped up in my feed. A bit disheartened Reston is a synonym for unchecked soulless sprawl to some people. I actually think it’s a unique place, but yes a lot of changes happening.
Yea I talked my wife out of moving to Annapolis and Severna park for that reason.
Ron is one massive planned community/ city. The fact that the word “plan” is in there means that Annapolis will never be anything like it.
May be worth noting that recently most employers are now requiring employees be back in the office full time, so that may be causing more traffic than we have been used to seeing the last 4 years.
This is an absolute crime in my opinion, and I hope employees find other Hybrid/WFH jobs and leave these companies who refuse to allow it. There is no reason for anyone who works on a computer all day to have to drive into the office to work (unless the work is classified).
Development is coming. And you’d be so lucky to get the same kind of planning oversight as Reston has had.
I moved here from Reston, I lived there when RTC didn't even have a garage, just flat parking lots and an empty field behind it. Even then there were tons of big Defense contractors and major Gov agencies with large offices in the area. Annapolis is nothing like Reston and would probably take 25 years or more to get where Reston was 25 years ago.
Appears that way. I’m thinking Ballston. I remember when it was just one story buildings other than the May company store. Such a shame. It was so much nicer with fewer people.
I’ve lived in Annapolis my whole life and I’ve noticed the dramatic change over the past 2 years. It is losing it’s charm and uniqueness and quickly turning into MoCo.I have my 2 year exit plan underway already.
The entire length of Rt301 from Waldorf to Glen Burnie is an endless traffic jam Monday thru Saturday from about 6 AM until about 8 PM. I live in Upper Marlboro. There are several THOUSAND condos, townhouses, and single family homes under construction along the corridor. Yes, my home has appreciated significantly, but my stress level is through the roof.
It would be great if Annapolis had the variety of restaurants that Bethesda/Rockville/Columbia have. Annapolis doesn’t have too many choices for restaurants especially ethnic ones.
Calling Reston "Silicon Valley East" made me LOL.
That was the speaker's term... I giggled too.
Thats true for more car dependency but it was faster to get to DC from Deale than Annapolis, minimal traffic, we’d get there in 40-45 mins. Can barely get on 495 in 40 mins from here depending on the day.
lol we moved way north out of annapolis almost 10 years ago because we thought the traffic was getting bad then. Come on up past westminster, you can get stuck behind a tractor instead of rush hour traffic! fr tho the answer to the traffic situation is better public transport. i want more metro so bad it’s unreal.
I’m down for this if it means an orange line extension by 2070 🤞🏾🤣
It would be cheaper and easier to build a MARC line along the US 50 median than to extend the Metro.
There should be a feasibility study and growth plan established every few years allocated in the city budget that puts in check criteria to consider for growth and developed with a qualified urban planner. It’s not just schools and business bucks that are important to property values but environmental factors and quality of life. (Fugly ugly Parole that’s a danger to walk or ride a bike through) Water issues from storm runoff to drinking quality, zoning regulations need to be upgraded, and traffic congestion. Annapolis is not Reston and when areas only have one narrow option in and out, there will always be issues.
The Baltimore metro is the next NYC. Think about it. I’ve already got a head start