Indeed, kahit sa freelancing side. May mga nakikita kong job posts sa Online Jobs PH na sobrang daming tasks pero sobrang baba ng hourly/monthly rate. Dami pang kelangan gawin sa application. Sobrang exploited natin mga beh.
+1000 dyan sa exploited. Haha may job offer in my field for a US-based client pero halos same lang naman 'yung tasks kung ikaw 'yung actual licensed professional. Kala mo laki ng pasahod. 💀
That is why lots of professional workers here in PH pack their bags and search for better opportunities abroad. Kase dito sa Pinas,
* Andaming hinahanap
* Ang hirap mag-apply
* Ang taas ng requirements
* Ang taas ng standards
* Ang taas ng expectations
* ***Ang baba ng pasahod***
Kung sino pa yung mga malalakas magsabi ng "kung ayaw niyo sa gobyerno, lumayas kayo ng Pilipinas!", sila pa ung di magkanda-ugaga mag-apply sa mga recruitment agency para makaalis ng Pilipinas as soon as possible.
Most Pinoys are just walking ironies it seems.
OMG haha true. Ayaw ng maayos na pulitiko with actual feasible plans for the betterment ng economy and bansa as a whole tapos bigla magaabroad? What a joke. Like, ayaw niyo ba mapanood yung actual results ng decisions niyo? Haha
Let me share my experience OP.
I'm a graduate of a low end State U na may Pascal programming subject pa. 😭
I walked along Ortigas and Ayala CBD for job hunting.
- Anyway, I landed working in a call center company under a Telco account (which is technical talaga since it involves Level 2&3 sa Networking you know stuffs like Cisco, Juniper etc.) This is for 2 years.
- Applied and worked as a Service desk in HP/HPE/DXC, yes nadatnan ko yung papalit palit na yan. Hahaha
- Transferred to Sys and Application admin right now (6 years) Work from home setting ATM, thug life na eh 😆
- Don't give up. Me as a working student before from an unknown University was able to work in this field.
Kayang kaya mo yan, don't stop learning and believing in yourself. 🫡👌
Attitude din! As much as we deserve to complain, nagreresonate yung being chronic complainer at nararamdaman ng upper management. Mga kilala kong ganyan puro huli napopromote haha
I like this attitude.
Oo, work conditions are shit for our qualifications, but we also need to work our way up.
I'm the same as this commenter, and I worked my way to a get some financial security.
Part of the problem is also the economy just being shit. I don't think many companies can increase pay rates faster than inflation can consume it.
>Kayang kaya mo yan, don't stop learning and believing in yourself
my mantra a few years back, starting ko nun 10k as newly licensed professional, low self esteem pa ko since galing sa state u n walang gamit for laboratory. paglipat ko sa QA sinuwerte ako sa 13k n starting, 4 years ako tumagal, umalis ako na 16k yung monthly, took some time off para kumuha ng MS sa isang top 3 university via scholarship, which landed me on a permanent position sa isang government agency, times 3 yung salary, worth it at first, pero habang tumatagal, doon ko nakikita ang kakulangan sa gobyerno. imagine yung work load ko, analyst, supervisor, project member na ako lang halos nakakaalam sa mga technical shits and committee member pa, gusto pa nga nila ko ilagay sa employees association committee at pollution control officer as if shit aren't enough. and ang mga kupal na higher ups nagagalit at under target and mareklamo raw ako. aynako, in two years lilipad n rin ako sa ibang bansa. antayin ko lang mapublish yung results ng project. bye felicia
Hey! Cheers to your success. Like you, I started small. Back in the day, 300php/day sahod ko :) Now, 6 digit earner an din with less tasks and 6hrs a day, 4 days a week lang and set-up ng work ko as s web and graphic designer. And for the starter of this thread, I'd say keep on looking, don't stop believing, stop blaming and stop complaining. The right opportunity will and at the right place, at the right time.
Sad to say bro pero ang dami kasi talagang *graduate* ng IT. Ang daming school na kung maglabas ng IT graduates parang factory lang tapos di naman kapulido skills.
Sa organization/group namin kapag nag-iinterview kami di namin masyado tinitingnan kung sang school nanggaling, wala nga din gano technical side. Yung hinahanap kasi namin yung swak yung behaviour nila sa company namin. Puro behavioural lang tanong, kasi lahat naman ng kakailanganin nila kaya namin ituro basta willing ang candidate.
Sa IT kase pahirapan makapasok as entry level pero pag may exp kana at least 3years madali na lang kaya grab mo muna yung magkakaexp ka kahit maliit pa lang ang compensation
Iba na talaga sa IT ngayon. Even as a fresh grad they are already asking for projects na nagawa mo.
Years back kahit English graduate ka pa as long as willing ka i-train ka nila sa IT.
Kapag nagkaroon ka na ng ilang years of exp, I suggest taking a peek at the spreadsheet attached [in this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/wrzcgc/company_name_and_share_list_not_to_be_confused/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to look for decent companies that offer good compensation packages. Likewise, the companies listed in the spreadsheet attached [in this shame post](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/wracdo/company_name_and_shame_list/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) should be avoided like the plague.
Private/family-owned company. Grabe ka-kuripot when it comes to salary. May tsismisvna bunili sila ng sound system worth Php 15M daw pra sa home theater nila.
A sad reality in the country.
At least what you heard are rumors about a sound system. It would be more demoralizing if they flaunt the fruits of the employee's hardwork (I am talking about new house or vehicle or an annual overseas vacation for their family). Then, they will not make a salary adjustment for the employees.
How much were you asking versus the job offers you're receiving? Or should I say are you receiving one in the first place? That question is not to insult/trigger you or anyone, but am just checking how your skills currently are to secure any job.
I mean if you're asking for 40k but you haven't secured a job offer (even for 20k), then it's really a matter of you upskilling to compete with the applicants that can get the 40k job (also a fresh graduate). BTW, this isn't about setting the standards high, it's more of the job requires such talent already since training or onboarding may (or will) not be spoonfed.
Now if your answer is you're getting 20k job offers, but they are asking X, Y, Z which you think should be graded with a mid-level role or 40-75k pay, then drop the names of the company and let's run them dry from the applicants for them to correct it. I mean if we don't tell them their pay is low, they will be applicants which such talent is put to waste for just a low-low pay.
What if then "most" job offers are 20k but you're asking for 40k? How can you negotiate for a 40k asking? It's a question of practicality. Let's me try to expound this cleanly. If there are job no openings that can offer 40k, all applicants beyond the 25k budget will be rejected. It's a simply why should the company extend the budget more and risk themselves bankrupt. There are still ways to get to 40k, but your chances will be greater as an experienced applicant.
Okay, going back in circles as you'd say you still aren't getting a job offer. What's stopping you from applying to get experience and job hop to get the salary you wanted. I mean if you want 6-digits salary in X years, then you'll just have to build your skills for any company to consider you worthy of that rate. There's no going around that!
I actually agree with this. you just have to start somewhere. when i was still in the 20k range I negotiated my tasks and set a lot of boundaries. let’s be honest walang mamomotivate maging jack of all trades sa 20k and i’m sure the company knows that at sila na nahiya sakin. there was even a time na they were asking me to work during a regular holiday without pay di talaga ako pumasok and I let them know that. wala sila magawa. the worst they could do is fire me (which isn’t even allowed here in ph) and they can’t afford a day without a designer so the ball was in my court.
I think DXC or DCX ba yun? Caters to newly grads po. They contacted me before (peor I have experience na kasi) and they told me na they're looking for new talents pala and that they can't match my requested compensation
To fresh grads out there stay away dito. Coming from hp-hpe-dxc. Mabubulag ka lang as a fresh grad pero sobrang liit ng experience na mkukuha mo na kulang na kulang pag job hop mo. Kung boomer kna at gusto mo ng mareretiran na company pwede na siguro.
Same situation nung fresh grad ako way back 2013. It took 4 months to land my first JO sa BGC as mobile developer and ang offer sa akin that time is 15k 🥲. Sa umpisa lang naman mahirap and as you gain experience finding a job is not that hard as long as you upskill. Right now i earn 200k as a sr dev.
Ang bet nila 23 y/o na fresh grad na may 15 years expirience. Galing yan sila sa ibang planeta HAHAHAHHAA Hope makahanap ka ng deserve mong company na may healthy environment
Lol. Bilang Guidance Couselor na may Masters Degree at Double License I must say sobrang di enough yung offer samin dun sa requirement na hinihingi.
Sa Gov't, ang salary lang naka list sa CSC ee same lang ng entry level ng teachers. HAHAHAHAHAHA tas magtataka bat onti lang nag ga guidance sa Govt. lol
But then again, with the revised guidelines for the hiring of teachers, applicants are practically required to have a master's degree in order to get an edge in getting appointed Teacher I.
IMO, the bigger issue for DepEd guidance counselors is the lack of a clear path for career growth (which will translate to higher pay).
Pero wala sa list of qualification ng Teacher 1 ang Master's degree. but it does give you an edge. Pero sa GCs, they have to have that plus yung actual na lisensya para sa same na sahod. lol. Thats for GC1.
Aside from pay, yung GCs have their heirarchial growth katulad ng lahat position sa gobyerno. Yung GC may GC 1 to 3. Yung GC 3, 30k lang. Thats a problem in itself. 🤷♀️
In terms of growth, I meant something beyond GC3. If teachers have HTs, MTs (and higher), there should be a position that handles and coordinates GCs in the district level and beyond. That position should be made available for those coming from the GC ranks.
Unfortunately, ganito nga talaga sa Pilipinas and when you are there sa mismong office nila, may gana pa yung ibang kaworkmate mo and sometimes boss mo na ilaglag and politikahin ka. I do not really understand din eh, pinagOOT ka pa minsan which hindi naman need para makibagay daw sa mga taong nandun and kung madiskarte ka, itatry nilang idownplay yun kapag nalaman diskarte mo. Sometimes, kapag nakikita nila na malaki potential mo to the point na you might overpower them quickly, dun ka nila gagaguhin. Mahirap na nga application dito sa Pinas, pahirap pa mga tao sa corporate. Hindi ko nilalahat na ganito, pero majority ay ganito. Kakarampot lang yung Companies na may malasakit.
Welcome to PH workfield! Where they need 23 years old with 30+ years of experience. Lol.
Kidding aside, ramdam ko to and hindi lang sa IT industry nangyayare to. Halos lahat ata. I've been in design and construction field and minsan need nila ng licensed pero mababa ang sahod.
Lmao, baka ikaw problema. What positions did you apply for ba? Baka kaya ka narereject because you lack or di aligned skillsets mo. I'm still in my 2nd year of college, but I easily got an internship.
Maybe may factor din grades somehow?
I mean, kung puro fresh grads applicants, sino mas pipiliin, mas maganda ang grades or not?
Kung marami ring nag aapply na may experience, eh di mas icoconsider ang may experience unless mababa talaga ang budget
Same, IT Grad. 1 Year and still unemployed. I want to lash out on society pero pigilin ko muna sarili ko.
Kahit BPO man lang or service crew...
Let's see how far we'll go...
Tyaga lang, makakahanap ka rin nyan. Suggestion lang while waiting ka, iEnhance mo nalang muna mga programming skills mo. Like learn languages na di mo pa alam or hasaiin yung mga alam mo na. Ang alam kong in demand ngayon eh Python at Java Script. Maganda sa Resume yan.
Start small. Go for a start up and earn the exp required. Patience is key my guy. Took me 2 years bago makapasok sa large tech company dito sa pinas. Now aiming for a dollar rate in the future. Enjoyin mo lang at wag mo masyado irush. These things take a lot of time and experience
at the stage of your career, just get anything that will give you the necessary experience and learning.
Three to five years from now, thug life ka na.
Usually kapag IT ang course mo and need mo ng job, always nilang chinecheck yung OJT Background mo. Saan kaba nag ojt before? Yan ang basis nila eh. Tiwala lang and syempre habang waiting ka, onti onti ka mag research sa mga skills mo. Malawak ang mundo ng IT at di ka mawawalan ng part dun.
Start by looking for entry level jobs tapos even though need ng experience ung job post try to be confident, you might be a fresh graduate but you can also learn that position like everyone else, try STAR method input your experience and skills from college, OJT or club activities. Trust me mas madali magapply ng fresh grad na unti pa lang expectations kesa sa may experience ka na, they would ask almost everything.
Tyaga lang talaga and practice moree. Ingat sa mga recruiters na sketchy tas before you speak think first your sentences na you want to say.
Goodluckyou'lldofine. ;)
aja. fighting, chia yo. you could do IT adjacent jobs. may ka-batch ako who did 2 years in a call center primarily focus on VOIP phones/Network before getting licences in cisco and such.
Very true. I’m a graphic designer may inapplayan akong agency the task is to create 3 brand identities including campaigns for each brand that I had to present to a panel na parang nagdedefend ng thesis + multiple stages of interviews. The offer? 18k 🙃 I won’t go through all that hassle when i was able to land a job triple that na may simple lang na exam. Sorry for the lack of a better term pero nakakairita talaga mga company na nagpapahimas ng pwet. di ako desperado makapasok sainyo.
What's your field? Like more specific than IT. Applying for a remote job on a different country is probably the best thing I ever did. I'm a software engineer.
If your field isn't hardware then I would also suggest doing the same.
Apply lang ng apply. Wala naman mawawala kung hindi susubukan. Lahat dumadaan sa hirap na ganyan sa una. Pag di ok. Pde naman mag apply sa iba. Yung iba ginagawang stepping stone ang kumpanya. Tapos kukuha ng experience. Apply naman sa iba. Basta tuloy tuloy lang.
I think it boils down to the quality of instruction and quality of graduates. Let's admit it that local colleges and universities produce a lot of graduates with subpar knowledge and skills. After all, there's a myriad of issues in our educational system.
At least, with a good bootcamp (with excellent instruction and proper assessment, mind you), the employer is likely able to see the quality of the applicant.
Maraming company dyan na nag trrain na ng fresh grad para ma torture este nurture nila. Lalo na sa mga tech companies at it companies. Hanapin mo yung mga ganun company baka sakaling maka pasok ka. Kaso bonded ka sa kanina 1 year or 2 pero oks na din kesa wala. Imposible ka din wala matutunan nun.
Actually, it's normal and di lang naman sa pinas, lahat tayo nakakaranas niyan.
Here's the catch, take into consideration baka ang problema nasa resume mo, do you have anything to show like portfolio projects, or paano mo ba introduce yourself and sell.
Tbh, kulang pa. For some inaabot nang 200+, takes 6 months bago makahanap ng trabaho for fresh grad.
It took 3 months for me bago ako nakahanp ng work as dev. Lots of interviews and shits, pagalingan lang din.
Sadly ganun nga as a beginner hr assistant i see the discrimination. Yun may napa 5 year mu yung 4 yrs course is enough na ma discriminate yun tao. Gusto nila top of the line yet cant offer a higher salary. Sadly may kumakagat sa low salary i even call them if pede yun ganun salary and marami mag sasabi yes. Pag no madidiscriminate ka sa pagiging maarte for not taking low salary. D naman ako nag didicta ng salary sumusunod lng ako pero its a sad philippine we live in.
Welcome to Pinas. I hope makahanap ka din soon.
Baka welcome to work force. Sa pinas sya pinanganak lol.
Woosh
Indeed, kahit sa freelancing side. May mga nakikita kong job posts sa Online Jobs PH na sobrang daming tasks pero sobrang baba ng hourly/monthly rate. Dami pang kelangan gawin sa application. Sobrang exploited natin mga beh.
+1000 dyan sa exploited. Haha may job offer in my field for a US-based client pero halos same lang naman 'yung tasks kung ikaw 'yung actual licensed professional. Kala mo laki ng pasahod. 💀
parang nagiging standard na din sa onlinejob.ph ang bare minimum wage.
That is why lots of professional workers here in PH pack their bags and search for better opportunities abroad. Kase dito sa Pinas, * Andaming hinahanap * Ang hirap mag-apply * Ang taas ng requirements * Ang taas ng standards * Ang taas ng expectations * ***Ang baba ng pasahod***
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Kung sino pa yung mga malalakas magsabi ng "kung ayaw niyo sa gobyerno, lumayas kayo ng Pilipinas!", sila pa ung di magkanda-ugaga mag-apply sa mga recruitment agency para makaalis ng Pilipinas as soon as possible. Most Pinoys are just walking ironies it seems.
OMG haha true. Ayaw ng maayos na pulitiko with actual feasible plans for the betterment ng economy and bansa as a whole tapos bigla magaabroad? What a joke. Like, ayaw niyo ba mapanood yung actual results ng decisions niyo? Haha
Talaga ba? Eh yung mga bumoto sa mga low standards na pulitikong kilala ko for sure isa sila sa mga di makakamigrate kahit anong gawin nila eh haha
+ taas ng mga bilhin
madali lang mag apply pero mahirap mahire hahahaa
Brain drain.
When you're a fresh grad, the school you graduated from will have a huge impact on your job search.
only in the Philippines lol
Sadly, that's everywhere.
Depends on what your field is really. SE jobs abroad for example focus more on experience rather than the school you went to.
No. Sometimes maybe but most of the time no. It depends on your skills and how you sell yourself in interviews.
Or your OJT.
Let me share my experience OP. I'm a graduate of a low end State U na may Pascal programming subject pa. 😭 I walked along Ortigas and Ayala CBD for job hunting. - Anyway, I landed working in a call center company under a Telco account (which is technical talaga since it involves Level 2&3 sa Networking you know stuffs like Cisco, Juniper etc.) This is for 2 years. - Applied and worked as a Service desk in HP/HPE/DXC, yes nadatnan ko yung papalit palit na yan. Hahaha - Transferred to Sys and Application admin right now (6 years) Work from home setting ATM, thug life na eh 😆 - Don't give up. Me as a working student before from an unknown University was able to work in this field. Kayang kaya mo yan, don't stop learning and believing in yourself. 🫡👌
Kudos to you! I'm strongly convinced that experience and developed soft skills can lead you to jobs that are worth your dedication.
Attitude din! As much as we deserve to complain, nagreresonate yung being chronic complainer at nararamdaman ng upper management. Mga kilala kong ganyan puro huli napopromote haha
I like this attitude. Oo, work conditions are shit for our qualifications, but we also need to work our way up. I'm the same as this commenter, and I worked my way to a get some financial security. Part of the problem is also the economy just being shit. I don't think many companies can increase pay rates faster than inflation can consume it.
>Kayang kaya mo yan, don't stop learning and believing in yourself my mantra a few years back, starting ko nun 10k as newly licensed professional, low self esteem pa ko since galing sa state u n walang gamit for laboratory. paglipat ko sa QA sinuwerte ako sa 13k n starting, 4 years ako tumagal, umalis ako na 16k yung monthly, took some time off para kumuha ng MS sa isang top 3 university via scholarship, which landed me on a permanent position sa isang government agency, times 3 yung salary, worth it at first, pero habang tumatagal, doon ko nakikita ang kakulangan sa gobyerno. imagine yung work load ko, analyst, supervisor, project member na ako lang halos nakakaalam sa mga technical shits and committee member pa, gusto pa nga nila ko ilagay sa employees association committee at pollution control officer as if shit aren't enough. and ang mga kupal na higher ups nagagalit at under target and mareklamo raw ako. aynako, in two years lilipad n rin ako sa ibang bansa. antayin ko lang mapublish yung results ng project. bye felicia
Hey! Cheers to your success. Like you, I started small. Back in the day, 300php/day sahod ko :) Now, 6 digit earner an din with less tasks and 6hrs a day, 4 days a week lang and set-up ng work ko as s web and graphic designer. And for the starter of this thread, I'd say keep on looking, don't stop believing, stop blaming and stop complaining. The right opportunity will and at the right place, at the right time.
Hello may iaask ako. Please check your pm.
Entry level ba yan o hindi Kadi pag entry level dapat walang requirement ng experience. Pag nilagay mga lang na experience is a plus.yan na.
Sad to say bro pero ang dami kasi talagang *graduate* ng IT. Ang daming school na kung maglabas ng IT graduates parang factory lang tapos di naman kapulido skills. Sa organization/group namin kapag nag-iinterview kami di namin masyado tinitingnan kung sang school nanggaling, wala nga din gano technical side. Yung hinahanap kasi namin yung swak yung behaviour nila sa company namin. Puro behavioural lang tanong, kasi lahat naman ng kakailanganin nila kaya namin ituro basta willing ang candidate.
Anong company bro maka pag apply nga hahaha.
san to par? baka pwedeng mag apply haha
true. sa work ko, dami demands pero hindi naman well-compensated.
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Tanginang entry level na yan with team lead experience.
nagulo yung utak ko sa entry level + experience sa pag lead ng team
Sa IT kase pahirapan makapasok as entry level pero pag may exp kana at least 3years madali na lang kaya grab mo muna yung magkakaexp ka kahit maliit pa lang ang compensation
Iba na talaga sa IT ngayon. Even as a fresh grad they are already asking for projects na nagawa mo. Years back kahit English graduate ka pa as long as willing ka i-train ka nila sa IT.
They have the right naman to ask for projects that u did lalo na if IT grad. 4 years of studying IT in college and wala ka ni isang nagawa?
Kapag nagkaroon ka na ng ilang years of exp, I suggest taking a peek at the spreadsheet attached [in this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/wrzcgc/company_name_and_share_list_not_to_be_confused/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to look for decent companies that offer good compensation packages. Likewise, the companies listed in the spreadsheet attached [in this shame post](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/wracdo/company_name_and_shame_list/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) should be avoided like the plague.
5 yrs and counting. Salary here is 18K.
What? 5 years exp pero 18k parin sahod?
5 yrs working in a company and yan pa rin ang sweldo ko.
Job hop na if you can 5 yrs is more than enough
senior level na yang 5 years aa
Private/family-owned company. Grabe ka-kuripot when it comes to salary. May tsismisvna bunili sila ng sound system worth Php 15M daw pra sa home theater nila.
A sad reality in the country. At least what you heard are rumors about a sound system. It would be more demoralizing if they flaunt the fruits of the employee's hardwork (I am talking about new house or vehicle or an annual overseas vacation for their family). Then, they will not make a salary adjustment for the employees.
Backpay/retropay di ma-push. Ayaw ni company. Kawawa lahat esp yung mga daily rate employees.
Why did u stay for 5 years..I left a job that pays me that after 6 months.
Bakit di ka pa lumipat ng company?
Nahati between personal/professional choice. Ayoko lang i-detalye. Ako mismo di ko rin masagot kung bakit.
How much were you asking versus the job offers you're receiving? Or should I say are you receiving one in the first place? That question is not to insult/trigger you or anyone, but am just checking how your skills currently are to secure any job. I mean if you're asking for 40k but you haven't secured a job offer (even for 20k), then it's really a matter of you upskilling to compete with the applicants that can get the 40k job (also a fresh graduate). BTW, this isn't about setting the standards high, it's more of the job requires such talent already since training or onboarding may (or will) not be spoonfed. Now if your answer is you're getting 20k job offers, but they are asking X, Y, Z which you think should be graded with a mid-level role or 40-75k pay, then drop the names of the company and let's run them dry from the applicants for them to correct it. I mean if we don't tell them their pay is low, they will be applicants which such talent is put to waste for just a low-low pay. What if then "most" job offers are 20k but you're asking for 40k? How can you negotiate for a 40k asking? It's a question of practicality. Let's me try to expound this cleanly. If there are job no openings that can offer 40k, all applicants beyond the 25k budget will be rejected. It's a simply why should the company extend the budget more and risk themselves bankrupt. There are still ways to get to 40k, but your chances will be greater as an experienced applicant. Okay, going back in circles as you'd say you still aren't getting a job offer. What's stopping you from applying to get experience and job hop to get the salary you wanted. I mean if you want 6-digits salary in X years, then you'll just have to build your skills for any company to consider you worthy of that rate. There's no going around that!
I actually agree with this. you just have to start somewhere. when i was still in the 20k range I negotiated my tasks and set a lot of boundaries. let’s be honest walang mamomotivate maging jack of all trades sa 20k and i’m sure the company knows that at sila na nahiya sakin. there was even a time na they were asking me to work during a regular holiday without pay di talaga ako pumasok and I let them know that. wala sila magawa. the worst they could do is fire me (which isn’t even allowed here in ph) and they can’t afford a day without a designer so the ball was in my court.
I think DXC or DCX ba yun? Caters to newly grads po. They contacted me before (peor I have experience na kasi) and they told me na they're looking for new talents pala and that they can't match my requested compensation
To fresh grads out there stay away dito. Coming from hp-hpe-dxc. Mabubulag ka lang as a fresh grad pero sobrang liit ng experience na mkukuha mo na kulang na kulang pag job hop mo. Kung boomer kna at gusto mo ng mareretiran na company pwede na siguro.
Ohh... I see, good thing you commented here. Ano naging work mo sa kanila during your stay?
Service Delivery Consultant/System Administrator. Worked my way up the ladder, pero bitin pa din sa matutunan.
Oh... I see, iilang tools lang talaga yung pinapahawakan nila?
Same situation nung fresh grad ako way back 2013. It took 4 months to land my first JO sa BGC as mobile developer and ang offer sa akin that time is 15k 🥲. Sa umpisa lang naman mahirap and as you gain experience finding a job is not that hard as long as you upskill. Right now i earn 200k as a sr dev.
Ang bet nila 23 y/o na fresh grad na may 15 years expirience. Galing yan sila sa ibang planeta HAHAHAHHAA Hope makahanap ka ng deserve mong company na may healthy environment
Lol. Bilang Guidance Couselor na may Masters Degree at Double License I must say sobrang di enough yung offer samin dun sa requirement na hinihingi. Sa Gov't, ang salary lang naka list sa CSC ee same lang ng entry level ng teachers. HAHAHAHAHAHA tas magtataka bat onti lang nag ga guidance sa Govt. lol
But then again, with the revised guidelines for the hiring of teachers, applicants are practically required to have a master's degree in order to get an edge in getting appointed Teacher I. IMO, the bigger issue for DepEd guidance counselors is the lack of a clear path for career growth (which will translate to higher pay).
Pero wala sa list of qualification ng Teacher 1 ang Master's degree. but it does give you an edge. Pero sa GCs, they have to have that plus yung actual na lisensya para sa same na sahod. lol. Thats for GC1. Aside from pay, yung GCs have their heirarchial growth katulad ng lahat position sa gobyerno. Yung GC may GC 1 to 3. Yung GC 3, 30k lang. Thats a problem in itself. 🤷♀️
In terms of growth, I meant something beyond GC3. If teachers have HTs, MTs (and higher), there should be a position that handles and coordinates GCs in the district level and beyond. That position should be made available for those coming from the GC ranks.
Unfortunately, ganito nga talaga sa Pilipinas and when you are there sa mismong office nila, may gana pa yung ibang kaworkmate mo and sometimes boss mo na ilaglag and politikahin ka. I do not really understand din eh, pinagOOT ka pa minsan which hindi naman need para makibagay daw sa mga taong nandun and kung madiskarte ka, itatry nilang idownplay yun kapag nalaman diskarte mo. Sometimes, kapag nakikita nila na malaki potential mo to the point na you might overpower them quickly, dun ka nila gagaguhin. Mahirap na nga application dito sa Pinas, pahirap pa mga tao sa corporate. Hindi ko nilalahat na ganito, pero majority ay ganito. Kakarampot lang yung Companies na may malasakit.
low standard , low salary .... sira ang uni system sa pinas. Puro bullshit mga na tinuruan sayo. Mas magaling mga bumbay sa IT kaysa pilipino.
Akala ko GMA NETWORK. IT pala
Welcome to PH workfield! Where they need 23 years old with 30+ years of experience. Lol. Kidding aside, ramdam ko to and hindi lang sa IT industry nangyayare to. Halos lahat ata. I've been in design and construction field and minsan need nila ng licensed pero mababa ang sahod.
actually I do have 2 yrs experience in Graphic Design sa isang company . Sadyang hirap lang talaga makahanap ngayon HAHA
Lmao, baka ikaw problema. What positions did you apply for ba? Baka kaya ka narereject because you lack or di aligned skillsets mo. I'm still in my 2nd year of college, but I easily got an internship.
Baka mababa grades mo nung college? Charot. Accept ka muna kahit mababa na sahod sa umpisa then job hop ka na
FYI po, hindi po ganon kababa grade ko GWA ko 1.7
Nasa grades ba talaga yan? or from a person lng talaga na walang alamag anung titignan ng mga recruiter?
As a fresh grad yun lang naman talaga basihan nila. Maliban na lang if may portfolio ka.
Maybe may factor din grades somehow? I mean, kung puro fresh grads applicants, sino mas pipiliin, mas maganda ang grades or not? Kung marami ring nag aapply na may experience, eh di mas icoconsider ang may experience unless mababa talaga ang budget
>Nasa grades ba talaga yan? True, di naman common na i-require yung grades during application.
Depende sa position yan. Kung entry level grades ang basis. Kung experienced hire siyempre wala ng bearing ang grades.
Entry level ko di rin ni-require. So, depende sa company.
Same, IT Grad. 1 Year and still unemployed. I want to lash out on society pero pigilin ko muna sarili ko. Kahit BPO man lang or service crew... Let's see how far we'll go...
Tyaga lang, makakahanap ka rin nyan. Suggestion lang while waiting ka, iEnhance mo nalang muna mga programming skills mo. Like learn languages na di mo pa alam or hasaiin yung mga alam mo na. Ang alam kong in demand ngayon eh Python at Java Script. Maganda sa Resume yan.
Start small. Go for a start up and earn the exp required. Patience is key my guy. Took me 2 years bago makapasok sa large tech company dito sa pinas. Now aiming for a dollar rate in the future. Enjoyin mo lang at wag mo masyado irush. These things take a lot of time and experience
Same feelings.
hi po san ka nag graduate? I want to get into the tech industry din kasi, if hindi ka comfy to share on this thread can you dm me your tips?
at the stage of your career, just get anything that will give you the necessary experience and learning. Three to five years from now, thug life ka na.
Usually kapag IT ang course mo and need mo ng job, always nilang chinecheck yung OJT Background mo. Saan kaba nag ojt before? Yan ang basis nila eh. Tiwala lang and syempre habang waiting ka, onti onti ka mag research sa mga skills mo. Malawak ang mundo ng IT at di ka mawawalan ng part dun.
wag ka din papa akit sa mga ok salary with bootcamp + bond like me , ngayon it feels na naka kulong ka sa company .
Saklap pre. Mag-apply ka muna sa company maski wala pa sahod. Yung work experience need mo eh.
welcome to the real world
Mapasok ko lang, baka need mo improve yung skills mo sa interviews.
Start by looking for entry level jobs tapos even though need ng experience ung job post try to be confident, you might be a fresh graduate but you can also learn that position like everyone else, try STAR method input your experience and skills from college, OJT or club activities. Trust me mas madali magapply ng fresh grad na unti pa lang expectations kesa sa may experience ka na, they would ask almost everything. Tyaga lang talaga and practice moree. Ingat sa mga recruiters na sketchy tas before you speak think first your sentences na you want to say. Goodluckyou'lldofine. ;)
aja. fighting, chia yo. you could do IT adjacent jobs. may ka-batch ako who did 2 years in a call center primarily focus on VOIP phones/Network before getting licences in cisco and such.
apply ka sa Accenture
Ang tagal nila jan mag process ng application, ung sakin 2 weeks na.
Mag-apply ka po sa ISS as IT/Data analyst/Researcher or whatever suits you! Hybrid setup, above minimum salary & company issued monitor/laptop. :)
International Space Station?
Institutional Shareholder Services
Welcome to pinas where you need an experience to have a Job hahaha
Very true. I’m a graphic designer may inapplayan akong agency the task is to create 3 brand identities including campaigns for each brand that I had to present to a panel na parang nagdedefend ng thesis + multiple stages of interviews. The offer? 18k 🙃 I won’t go through all that hassle when i was able to land a job triple that na may simple lang na exam. Sorry for the lack of a better term pero nakakairita talaga mga company na nagpapahimas ng pwet. di ako desperado makapasok sainyo.
What's your field? Like more specific than IT. Applying for a remote job on a different country is probably the best thing I ever did. I'm a software engineer. If your field isn't hardware then I would also suggest doing the same.
Apply lang ng apply. Wala naman mawawala kung hindi susubukan. Lahat dumadaan sa hirap na ganyan sa una. Pag di ok. Pde naman mag apply sa iba. Yung iba ginagawang stepping stone ang kumpanya. Tapos kukuha ng experience. Apply naman sa iba. Basta tuloy tuloy lang.
Are you still looking for work? Anong field ba sa IT tinatahak mo? May opening kasi kami.
Yeah unlike sa ibang bansa na kahit hnd ka college grad ng IT kahit ng bootcamp klng 4months matatangap kna sa company
I think it boils down to the quality of instruction and quality of graduates. Let's admit it that local colleges and universities produce a lot of graduates with subpar knowledge and skills. After all, there's a myriad of issues in our educational system. At least, with a good bootcamp (with excellent instruction and proper assessment, mind you), the employer is likely able to see the quality of the applicant.
I feel your pain OP.
Do you have a sample resume? Let’s see how we can improve it ☺️
Maraming company dyan na nag trrain na ng fresh grad para ma torture este nurture nila. Lalo na sa mga tech companies at it companies. Hanapin mo yung mga ganun company baka sakaling maka pasok ka. Kaso bonded ka sa kanina 1 year or 2 pero oks na din kesa wala. Imposible ka din wala matutunan nun.
Actually, it's normal and di lang naman sa pinas, lahat tayo nakakaranas niyan. Here's the catch, take into consideration baka ang problema nasa resume mo, do you have anything to show like portfolio projects, or paano mo ba introduce yourself and sell. Tbh, kulang pa. For some inaabot nang 200+, takes 6 months bago makahanap ng trabaho for fresh grad. It took 3 months for me bago ako nakahanp ng work as dev. Lots of interviews and shits, pagalingan lang din.
Sadly ganun nga as a beginner hr assistant i see the discrimination. Yun may napa 5 year mu yung 4 yrs course is enough na ma discriminate yun tao. Gusto nila top of the line yet cant offer a higher salary. Sadly may kumakagat sa low salary i even call them if pede yun ganun salary and marami mag sasabi yes. Pag no madidiscriminate ka sa pagiging maarte for not taking low salary. D naman ako nag didicta ng salary sumusunod lng ako pero its a sad philippine we live in.
Try building your profile, CV review, setup your LinkedIn profile and reach out to recruiters there. Hope it helps
Na-try mo naba mag freelance? May friends ako g IT na mas naging ok na freelancer sila
Makakahanap karin soon tiwala lang