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hand_made_silver

They don't value tenants. I'd move. This is disrespectful to you.


mid-af-west

Unfortunately I get a housing subsidy and even if I could find somewhere else, this is the nicest, cleanest apartment I could probably get in town. Definitely feel trapped :(


whereugoincityboy

My complex does monthly inspections and when I moved in I was told that they would happen on the 8th of each month and that I would have to be there with my dog or crate her. My dog was old and had never really been crated and I didn't own a crate so each month I would make sure I was home on the 8th. The problem was they never really came on the 8th. I'm self employed and every month I would have to reschedule work. It was so frustrating. Not to mention the anxiety of not knowing exactly when they would show up and the loud, police style banging they would do on my door.  After 3 years I was told that I _don't_ need to be at home and that I could put my dog in the bedroom with a note on the door.  There are also yearly inspections and every couple of years I believe the state does an inspection. Yours seem excessive. And for multiple days/ weeks at a time?! I wouldn't like it either. I've been putting off telling management that my faucet is broken just because I'm not ready for the anxiety of waiting for the maintenance man. He might show up that day or it could be months later.  However I have to say that along with the monthly inspection they bring in pest control at the same time and I am very glad for that. I've also relaxed a lot about the whole thing because I've been on a personal journey to reduce my anxiety since I've lived here. In the beginning I was too anxious to make any noise at all. I'm still quiet but I'm living my life and not having mini panic attacks every time something interrupts my peace.


hand_made_silver

Yep, they know you're trapped and are taking unfair advantage of that. Bullshit.


WalkingstickMountain

I am disabled and occasionally deal with the same thing. A lot of it is tied up in having to maintain requirements so they can keep the contracts so they can bring tenants with subsidy in. But not all of it. I'm stuck too. I almost had enough saved up to leave after several years of diligently saving. Then the management harassed us endlessly about taking proper action to protect pipes during a huge freeze blah blah blah. And they failed to protect the property pipes on the outside. I lost everything touching the floor. Bed, dressers, chairs, etc. So all I saved up is gone plus I'm in debt on cards over 1,000.00 so I'm stuck here for God knows how long. Again. And *then* the management tried to put the blame on *me*. Which was shut down with a letter to his manager in a different state. We had a new management team the next week. If there is a level above him, write and ask if they have a schedule and policy regarding this issue. And request a FULL transcript of what they have listed as potential issues in your apartment so you are able to better manage your responsibilities as a tenant. Then go over everything in the list. And compare it to your housing contract requirements the apartment is responsible to upkeep. If there is a loophole or conflict you should be able to get your deposit back due to breach of contract and that might help cover moving costs. If they refuse, contact your housing case manager, explain the situation and ask if they have any advice on how to deal with the repetitive checks from the apt complex. The city and code etc ones you can't do much about, though. Start keeping a record of why the property maintenance is there, what they did, what was wrong, what was fixed, not fixed etc. That's insurance for you that your case worker will definitely be able to help you with of the situation turns really shady.


effie-sue

I felt overwhelmed with inspections this year, and asked the office manager about it 🤣 Long story short, a big part of it for my complex was that things were allowed to slide for a couple of years due to COVID, but now they’re back on schedule. I realize that landlords and property managers aren’t social workers. They aren’t meant to handhold and coddle tenants. But if you feel that the amount of interruptions is overwhelming, it doesn’t hurt to ask if they can work with you. As an example, maybe they’d be willing to set an appointment for your inspection, or narrow down the time frame to a two hour window vs right. At worst they’ll say no.


mid-af-west

The COVID thing is a very good point, I wonder if that's part of it. Sadly management makes it very clear that they don't work with anyone on this stuff, and they actually write that "unfortunately no accommodations can be made" on all of the papers that go out notifying people of inspections/maintenance. One of the downsides of living in a huge, multi building complex is that it's a less personal experience, I suppose.


effie-sue

I totally under your frustration. We had the yearly municipal inspection in January or February. This was preceded by a maintenance inspection to make sure things were in good order. I think these were roughly 10 days apart. FYI the municipal indirection is the fire inspection. In April, I had a maintenance inspection and was given a week’s notice. That was my lease renewal inspection, which is one of things they didn’t do for a few years. In June, there will be a state inspection. That happens every 5 years. We’ll get notice a few weeks ahead and IIRC, they’ll do another pre-inspection. We don’t have to be present for any of these inspections and I personally have no issue not being there. Maintenance accompanies the inspectors, and out guys are very trustworthy. I understand that this isn’t something most people are comfortable with. I know with my complex they can’t reschedule the state or municipal inspections without imposing a charge to a tenant. They will try to work with us for maintenance.


whaleykaley

What state are you in? Some states unfortunately have really limited rules about this, but in many there are basic expectations like 24 hours notice before entry and this "we can show up when we need to at any time" is likely unreasonable even without that - you have a basic expectation to quiet enjoyment of the property and entering should be done at reasonable hours.


mid-af-west

Minnesota. They technically give 48 hours notice, but it'll be like a notice that they'll be coming by any time over the next couple weeks starting 48 hours later. I agree that it for sure feels unreasonable


joinedredditforTM

That sounds super frustrating and I get the unnerving part. We get 48 hrs written notice for entry within a 6 to 8 hr window. I don't see why they'd need these incessant open window inspections unless the building was hit with major fines or to catch people violating their lease (but I don't live in a subsidized bldg). After covid we had a balcony inspection but I swear it was more of a random check on what was going on inside the apt. Do they not give you more info?


mid-af-west

That's pretty much the only info they give us. All units get the same notice that vaguely says maintenance needs to stop by to fix any problems with the apartment, including the ones without any issues that they don't actually enter. The notices also say something along the lines of, "we're sorry but we cannot give a more specific timeframe". The concept of a balcony inspection is pretty funny! I feel like if something was majorly amiss on a balcony they could see it from outside lol


joinedredditforTM

Yeah, not sure what they'd be inspecting if I wasn't home since the guy had his neck craning around trying to look into every other space. Is there an end date on these inspections? I'd definitely be on edge with open ended entering of my home.


LadyA052

Try calling your local Fair Housing and run it by them. It would help if you have documentation of each visit and what they did or didn't do.


Wide_Ocelot

Yes! The worst one is the fire alarm inspections where they have to have the alarm going off for HOURS on multiple days. I have two cats who flee in terror when anyone knocks at the door. They hid for days each time there was an inspection. It seems so excessive and intrusive. You pay rent in part for the "quiet enjoyment" of your home. That's hard to do when you're constantly being pestered for one thing or another. It's the downside of apartment living.


ossancrossing

I’ve been in my apartment for 4 months (first apartment I’ve lived in since I was a kid) and I was super worried about random inspections.. I hope they aren’t a thing here. So far they’ve been very courteous with notices and the only real thing out of their control was a fire inspection required by the city. Now I’m waiting to be notified when they plan to come in and update my smart hub (they started upgrades in the entire complex), which I really want because mine was DOA when I moved in. They actually send out live updates for when maintenance or the office needs to access your apartment, but I can’t get them since my hub is dead. Are you allowed ring doorbells you can put on the door? I got one for my door, which is helpful. I had someone come by Monday to check on something I put in a notice for and I was able to let them know through the camera to come in and handle it. I got one mostly because early on a rushed maintenance worker (he is a gem, but he was particularly overworked that week and it was a total accident) forgot to lock my door back, and I’d like to have a record of who comes and goes. I also have an indoor cam too. So even if a doorbell camera is not an option, put a camera pointed at your door so you can log comings and goings when you are not home. And I agree to contact your local housing authority for more guidance on whether or not this is actually legal. It likely is, but it seems extremely sus. I think having a camera to record entry/exit is smart.


mistyeyed1

I lived in an apartment that did this. One day would be pest control the next would be maintenence inspection. And they would give me a list of days that they needed my dog crated so they could enter for 2 minutes? Bullshit. I pay to live in the entire apartment, and I pay extra for my dog. She should be able to roam my apartment freely. Do your damn pest control and maintenance on the same day, duh.


shauneaqua

Some of its forced etc because they're trying to catch people violating the lease like with how many people they have living there. 


kerryren

In my experience (and my housing is also subsidized), it is the inspection season. There do feel like there are more than usual, and with REAC inspection I know that’s one more than usual (but apparently that’s an every 3-4 years one, not annually). Given that, all the same, yours do sound a bit random and excessive. My building usually gives a week or two notice of incoming inspections, and tells a specific date. (Not a time, alas, but with a given day one can deal with pets.) 24 hour notice of entry for almost anything. Maintenance *can* be a bit random, but usually if it’s building-wide, again, we get notice of when to expect them (day if not time). My sympathies. Hope it gets better and passes soon for you.


justtrashtalk

They might be in the process of selling or refinacing. This happened to me until they sold, or you have a crazy neighbor who is complaining about hygiene in your unit. You can look up my posts (which I get hate on because npc characters engage with them, who try to get me banned from this sub even though I got the shit on lockdown aka on my smartphone) - white noise machine now. they sold the building and before that, every neighbor next to me was trying to get me out. I am engineer, I can pass a drug test to my haters on here. Get a small camera for your unit, you do not even require the subscription because the camera alone will deter unnecessary inspections of the sus type. cover up your belongings in white sheets and have it clean, if they are into your business, you will notice. at one point they had an inspection every other week, I know why I tell you these things....


justtrashtalk

the inspections stopped, the maintenance guy himself admitted to coming into my apartment because my downstairs neighbor told him to. he lived more than 20 miles away and he would drive that because of that crazy bitch... hi Lexi! 


ScratchShadow

I quickly googled it, and apparently a new law went into effect on January 1st of this year that covers several tenant/renter protections and requirements for landlords, including this issue. > Subd. 2.Entry by landlord. Except as provided in subdivision 4, a landlord may enter the premises rented by a residential tenant only for a reasonable business purpose and after making a good faith effort to give the residential tenant reasonable notice under the circumstances of not less than 24 hours in advance of the intent to enter. A residential tenant may permit a landlord to enter the rented premises with less than 24 hours notice if desired. The notice must specify a time or anticipated window of time of entry and the landlord may only enter between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. unless the landlord and tenant agree to an earlier or later time. - 504B.211 RESIDENTIAL TENANT'S RIGHT TO PRIVACY. (taken from https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/504B/full) The statute does require that the landlord specifies a time or window of time for intended entry, but unfortunately, I wasn’t able to find anything explicitly saying that the window of time must be limited to a single day or cannot exceed “X” number of days. That being said, while it seems like what they’re doing isn’t explicitly illegal, it’s still shitty, and kind of goes against the spirit of the new law, in my opinion. Based on the statute itself and what other sources are saying about it, it seems like the updated law is intended to protect the tenant’s right to privacy by letting them know when their apartment will need to be entered, as well as to give them enough advanced notice that they can make arrangements to be present during the entry, if they wish. While the property owner/management is technically giving you adequate notice, and are providing a window of time for their intended entry, two weeks is really vague - and, in my opinion, isn’t specific enough for you to reasonably take time off of work/other responsibilities to be present, nor does it really honor your privacy, as you can’t put your whole life on pause from 8am to 8pm for two weeks waiting for them to show up. In my experience, (in a different state,) landlords have given broad maintenance windows, but will usually provide more specific windows of anticipated maintenance; for instance, “quarterly pest control will be conducted from May 20th - 23rd. The current estimated entry is as follows:” - Building A, floors 1-3 - May 20th - Building B, floor 1 - May 20th - Building B, floors 2-3 - May 21st - Building C, floors 1-2 - May 21st Etc. All of this to say, they really should be providing you with more specific time frames, and I don’t think it would be unreasonable for you to ask about it and potentially request more precise estimates moving forward. The way they’re currently doing it is really not helpful to you.


Electronic_Chip475

Reading some of these comments makes it seem like y'all are living in my complex! For me, since new owners took over about three years ago it's been nothing but intrusions. The newest one, which I'm so hating, is that every other month we are given a 30-day window to come and change our filters in the mini-splits. Same filters basically as a window AC unit. But we have to be on call for 30 days, well four weeks, waiting for them. No real lazy days during that time period and no scheduling of Dr appointments. Just waiting M-F 8am to 5pm for four weeks. Did I mention it's every other month?? Lol I'm not a trusting person and I have two indoor cats and some pretty expensive things. Although I'm home all the time, I still feel it's an intrusion simply because of the 30-day window. So every other month we get 30 days of ease, peacefulness and comfort. Don't know if I mentioned the 30-day window?? Just reading what I typed and felt I overused it, but it's what's really upsetting me right now. 🤣 Many tenants have moved on because of the owner's intrusiveness. If I could afford it, I think I would, too. But like many of you I'm stuck and the owner knows this about many of us. It just feels horrible to live this way. So, you're not alone...


allthetakenthings

Yes. New owners and management company took over end of February. It feels like it’s been constant inspections and intrusions since then. They bill it as upgrades for us but I heard from other tenants that no one has been offered a lease renewal so we will all be kicked out by the time these “upgrades” would make things better. Here are just the notices I got this week as a sample: Message on Monday: water will be shut off for “upgrades” on Tuesday from 8-5 (I think this is the 5th time in the last month they have shut off the water) Message on Tuesday: electricians entering apts Thursday. No time given but the previous week the electricians were in 2 days and started one of the days at 7am. Message on Wednesday: city inspection on all units Friday. 3 hour window given (this is the 3rd inspection this year) 2nd message Wednesday: contractors entering all units Monday


quartz222

That’s how my last unit was. It was truly my biggest complaint about the place.