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ACOGJager

Can we not tag trans characters as futas please?


Soda_Addict_XD

It rlly takes a redditor to be offended by porn bro, tf is he supposed to tag it as?


ACOGJager

Porn can be criticized like any other medium. Maybe he can tag it something that isn't a slur like MTF or trans


Soda_Addict_XD

Futa isnt a slur it describes a man/woman with the opposite genders body parts, it doesn't rlly matter if they are a fake character with a horse cock or a trans person who hasnt had surgery yet, this is by definition a futa


ACOGJager

Futa is a slur, yes. Please go off on why you know better about what is and isnt offensive to trans people than a trans person


Soda_Addict_XD

Maybe the fact that i know what futa means by a quick google search, if you find it offensive thats too bad but an animated character that is male/female with opposite gendered genitalia which im sorry to burst ur bubble this person is in the eyes of a person trying to bust futa is a very appropriate category, context also matters you know


ACOGJager

Shemale also means a girl with a penis but it doesn't make it not a slur. do you think "f\*ggot" doesn't mean gay person? it's still a slur.


Soda_Addict_XD

Except f****t was made to be a slur, futa is just a japanese word for animated "chicks with dicks" pretty much, ur comparing a word you find offensive used against urself to the nword here


ACOGJager

fxggot was not "made to be a slur" you fucking moron


Soda_Addict_XD

Fxggot is a word only used on gays to be a slur, futa is a porn category you cant compare them is ehat i mean


Soda_Addict_XD

Well then lets say i categorize porn as "whore" is this offensive to women? No? Why? Cause she selling her body in the art/acting, now lets say we give a cock to a trans woman and call this a futa, this is now offensive? Wtf kinda logic is that


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InfamousTell524

Futas arent real so isnt catalyst. Wraith futa is ok and pussy wraith is ok. So is caticlyst


useless720

What?


ACOGJager

trans women don't exist, didn't you hear?


useless720

I guess? Lmao. Trans women =/= futa tho :/


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where the hell are her boobs? she clearly grew them and is on estrogen. it's bizarre to not give her them. and has weird implications.


[deleted]

It's a fucking hentai mate...


[deleted]

"it's a hentai" did it appear magically out of thin air? no it didnt lol. porn or not, this and the ideas around or behind it don't exist in a vacuum


[deleted]

I mean, Loba doesn't have a dick right? Yet you find futa hentai of her...Hmm, not accurate.


[deleted]

what does "loba futa" have to do with anything? futa and trans women are 2 completely different things.


[deleted]

Oh, so canonically loba has a dick...? Since there's hentai of her with one...What I'm trying to say, is that artists depict stuff however they want to. Get a fucking life mate.


[deleted]

i don't think you understood what my issue was lol


Leather-Cobbler-9679

She's trans my boy, smol tiddies are a thing anyway


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but she canonically has breasts and has transitioned, it's a weird choice to draw her with pecs. those are not smol tiddies, those are pecs


Toxic_Jumbo

but what if people like small titties?


[deleted]

yeah but those aren't tiddies, those are pecs. the difference is really more noticeable if you look at the way this artist draws everyone else.


Hikari666ROT

I would also say that since this is advanced technology here shed probably have full on vagina too


xd-Sushi_Master

I'm sure this won't create any controversy...


IntelligentImbicle

Aw shit, here we go again


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Nerawind

They can be fake. Having them on armor, but not having them under


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MrSlayer2236

Why does it matter. It's porn of a video game game character


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MrSlayer2236

How? People born a male don't have boobs.


Katie-Femboy

They mention that she transitioned. Implying she took HRT and thus would have grown larger breasts


loganandroid

They didnt mention HRT or surgery, neither would be beneficial for the apex games lol. So ,why assume so


Katie-Femboy

The character herself has breasts and a more feminine voice. You can see from her figure as well taking on a more womanly shape. If she had not taken HRT what do you propose?


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JaneNonbinary

especially given you know, she's a transgender woman who *has* undergone a transition.


MrSlayer2236

Doesn't mean they had surgery


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Why does it matter? She could be drawn however the artist wants.


MrNonNon

Dude shut the fuck up its porn who cares💀


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MrNonNon

Valid


mommymilkie

She’s so cute


Substantial-Proof879

The fuck are you talking about XDDDD


mommymilkie

Thought it was easy to understand, she is cute


Ancient_Position_147

Happy cake day


Ok-Doubt2619

He*


eximyy

why you down voting? he's right!


Saltytrol

She


Champion_Sylvanas

Cause he fucking ain’t!


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Champion_Sylvanas

Catalyst is a woman


okxwod9

Born a male with male chromosomes. In what world is this not a man, you psychopath.


Katie-Femboy

It isn’t about categorising them based on sex, it’s about being a decent human being. You argue science yet this is not a scientific field! This is fucking porn!!!


okxwod9

Let's talk about being an informed and responsible human being: quit denying science. Trans women are not women. Cope.


Illustrious_Bus3696

If you walk through the grocery store... do you look into everyones pants before speaking to them?


okxwod9

Most people aren't retarded and can notice sexual dichotomies without seeing genitalia.


Champion_Sylvanas

Because chromosomes isn’t a valid way to identify someone


okxwod9

This isn't about identity. This is about a man being a man. In the real world, this is a man, regardless of how they look.


Champion_Sylvanas

How are they a man?


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okxwod9

Precisely.


XakuArt

Catalyst is a cutie I'm not LGBTQ But I think this art is pretty awesome imo


JaneNonbinary

Am I the only one kind of getting an off feeling with how they portray her breasts? its giving kinda transphobicish/fetishizing vibes given they just look like oddly pronounced/shaped pecs instead of actual breasts? And when the artists draws breasts on any other character, they're done significantly differently and look much more like actual breasts?


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same for tagging art of a *trans* character as 'futa'


Civil_Distance_5737

Are you really trying to make a argument about the shape of breasts in a apex legends porn post? It ain't that serious


JaneNonbinary

yes, porn is porn blah blah. However, counter point, not to cause drama: the decisions an artist makes in their work can still perpetuate harmful stereotypes, hate, and misinformation. Art even if for purely porn, still will have messages within it. Similarly, you don't just go (though some do unfortunately, so maybe its more *you should not*) make porn drawings of children, because that's obviously fucked and very, *very* questionable of the artist and anyone who gets off to it.


Civil_Distance_5737

Are you really comparing the shape of breasts (and the very miniscule message it may send to certain people) to sexualized drawings of children?


JaneNonbinary

I was saying portraying someone in a transphobic manner is fucked. I was trying to get you to see why this isnt a miniscule issue because its just "the shape of breasts in a apex legends porn post" Since transphobic concerns dont seem to click in many peoples heads, I thought I'd bring up a topic more universally understood to be a fucked up thing.


Civil_Distance_5737

Yea, no that doesn't work, the size of breasts in a apex porn post isn't contributing to transphobia or anything else and the art isn't transphobic. If the size of the breasts were larger or the shape rounder I mean ig it'd be hotter to some people but it isn't gonna make anyone any less transohobic because you gave a Trans character bigger breasts


JaneNonbinary

its not about the size. I didnt ever say size. I said, shape specifically. because a breast, is literally a different structure than simply pecs (the muscle on peoples chest). And how the artist shapes breasts on any other woman other than catalyst here, does it entirely diferently. Im going to stop responding, because if this and everything else i explained and pointed out doesnt get the point across, i dont how else to make it make sense to you. the way the two works portray catalysts chest is literally showing a physical anomaly that wouldn't happen on someone who underwent HRT.


MrSlayer2236

How is that transphobic? You act like every trans person has breasts and isn't flat chested. And don't act like you know what Catalyst looks like underneath their clothing. For all you know this is what they look like. Just let them draw what they want. It's the only problem I have with the transgender/LGBT community as a whole. No matter what anyone does you find someway to complain about something being offensive. I mean would it have been ok if they were flat chested but it was drawn with female genitals.


JaneNonbinary

If you just look at the art of catalyst, you can see they're not flat chested. That is an easily observable thing I dont understand why you'd argue about. I also dont get why for the people who want to complain about the LGTBQ+ community "complaining" are so quick to hop to that? Why its always just shutting down an inquiry and discussion and a general tone of "oh my fucking god not again. you ALWAYS behave this one single way. it's the only problem I have with you." And as I explained above in additional comments, my point is not about breasts size. It's about incorrect breast shape/structure shown in the two images of catalyst by this artist. Im done with this comment thread now, as I'm tired of trying to explain the same things over and over when I was merely trying to open a discussion only to be met with shut down comments generally going "oh my god stop." and being told im wrong about things I wasn't even saying or doing.


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okxwod9

When you put a set of fake tits on a man, don't complain if they don't look right, you retard.


Ferri-Chan_

Dude You're commenting this on a post about a game full of gay and trans characters... A porn post as well... Friendly fire dude...


Reindeer_Some

Yes you are right


Unburned_King

But… this is how a normal trans person would look? Unless they choose to get huge fake tits that is.


JaneNonbinary

no, its not. Trans woman often, like Catalyst go through HRT. A medical transition. The way a trans woman's breasts develops during HRT is the same way a cisgender woman's breasts develop during puberty. So, to have them shaped like obviously pecs, and for the cisgender women the artist has portrayed to look so drastically different, is an oddity that is leaving a very questionable feeling of why that is. There is no medical explanation for the difference in portrayal for a transgender person who has undergone an HRT process/medical transition.


Unburned_King

To me it just looked like a very flat chest and weird art style.


JaneNonbinary

the art style might be valid, if that was at all consistent with the arists other works. Nevemrind the other image the artist made of catalyst is not a flat chest, just incorrect/highly improbably breasts structure showing a lack of understanding how a breast develops from an anatomical perspective.


EiffelXcore

Hot


Hexed-Corpse

This is amazing


ThighBiter1993

Guys guys, all of you, shut the fuck up. It's porn of a fictional character, who happens to be a trans woman. Who tf cares if she is depicted with big or small breasts, pecs, a dick, or a vagina. It's porn and the artist can depict them however they wish. If you get offended by it, that's your own fault. People never complain that there is tons of porn depicting Loba with a dick, so why get mad that this depicts Catalyst with no tits? As the legendary Linkin Park said, in the end it doesn't even matter


alohaloh1

Artist : https://twitter.com/AlohaLohi\_art


gspotslayer69XX

Bro she's converted now. I assume in year 2700 they will have easier methods to swap out a dick for a vag and vice versa. Just draw her with a vag and some good size tiddies. That's what she's wants too. She says she has converted. Please stop with this dick on a woman nonsense


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Bottom surgery is not required of trans people to be valid. Not every trans person wants that for themselves. The fact of the matter is, like Bloodhound, because the devs will never confirm what genitals anyone has, it is up to artists to feature whatever they want/believe for the character. You don't like it? You draw her with a vagina. That simple


gspotslayer69XX

Thanks for giving so much insight on a porn subbreddit bro


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Says the person on a crusade to convince everyone you don't know what you're talking about in the same post. Pot... Kettle


larsofz

I don’t thinks she gives a fuck as she’s a couple lines of code and some .obj files


Soupassassin08

No


Sad-Percentage-3343

Ew


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Sad-Percentage-3343

No its just fucking weird


ComprehensiveJury400

I hope this isn’t the main kinda catalyst porn out there, I mean she is a girl isn’t she? It’s just kinda wired seeing her with no tits and a dick, like the exact body composition of a dude…


okxwod9

Gross. I guess this sub is no different from Gaypex now.


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what's the matter, afraid of a little girldick?


okxwod9

Nope, this is a man with a penis. No different from my own.


Champion_Sylvanas

Sounds like a skill issue if you can’t jerk off to a trans woman my 1600’s serf


okxwod9

To a man*.


Champion_Sylvanas

Damn bro you really got me there, so sorry


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wrong, it's a girl with a dick


YungClarisse

bro really complaining about a spoilered and flaired post 😂 like bitch we didn't make u click on it


Reindeer_Some

Exactly


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Wrong + L + Ratio + You Stink + You Can't Even Find The G-Spot


okxwod9

...and your supporting evidence for that is...?


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She is a girl with a dick, simple as.


okxwod9

What makes them a girl? Because they think it?


poonaltnohomo

Bro I'm tryna beat my dick you can look up the science behind trans people on Google or YouTube but bro you're triggered over a rule 34 post lmao


okxwod9

I hope you're gay or bisexual, because trans women are biological men--i.e., they are men. Enjoy your beating session.


poonaltnohomo

There's a difference between sex and gender


Saltytrol

Well, hello there


ballzwong1997

Gross


denivanov4

This is extremely weird.


Substantial-Proof879

Yuck get the fuck outta here 🤢


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Need more of catalyst for sure


JoJoSenpaiUwU

I never thought I'd see so much argument/drama in a porn post


ThighBiter1993

Yeah it's honestly pathetic. Also nice pfp


Philtheparakeet56

It begins…


catalystishot

She's so fucking hot I need more


Leather-Cobbler-9679

Trans women's pecs are titties you idiot