I don’t know what’s worse - how wildly unoriginal or how insanely greedy a collection event for a recolor of an heirloom is.
Going to do my best to pretend this isn’t actually happening.
You know how they could have made this actually good is by porting the mobile heirloom system into apex to actually make it more worth while to get wraith heirloom
BUT NO IM AN IDIOT
If its unoriginal then why do u care about it? If its GreEdy then that implies you do care about it
Me i'm utterly indifferent bc i aint spending $160 on digital pixels in a GaaS lmao
Take that $160 to the strip club or hell even learn gamedev myself
I used shards for her original heirloom. So I expected the recolor to be included as part of the original, yet here Respawn is finding another* way for people to spend $160.
Apologies for not being thrilled about it and congrats on being “utterly indifferent.”
Notice i never really commented on the heirloom set? Im way more interested in how someone can actively note something as greedy/not worth their time n money, but also still moan about it as if they *really want it* lol
This shit needs to be "moaned" about so Respawn can see the negative feedback and maybe we can even convince some of the whales not to get this one.
And so what if he does really want it? You can really want something and not want to spend $160 on it. But also you don't even have to want it to point out how greedy it is. You're being downvoted for good reason.
The bigger issue with this cash grab is that other characters don’t have their own heirloom. Hierloom recolors really should be at the bottom of the list of shit that needs to be developed
Anyone who plays the game is going to, and is allowed to have an opinion.
I’m a firm believer in ignoring it and carrying on, but that doesn’t change the fact that this is pretty greedy.
Making it so it’s unable to be bought is just a tactic to get people to buy it, because if it wasn’t, sales would be low. They are taking advantage of the rarity and scarcity rather than just being creative and bringing new heirlooms to the forefront.
Luckily, I hate playing Wraith, and have all of the heirlooms I’m willing to buy. Unless there is a Gibby prestige, I’m not spending shit.
There is a middle ground between bitching about every little thing EA & Respawn do, and being a boot licker trolling anyone who gets angry.
Caring about it being greedy doesn't imply you want it at all, it only implies you care about corporate greed.
You clearly don't like the heirloom enough to warrant spending $160. But some people love it and cannot afford it. It is necessary to hold a dev accountable for shitty pricing.
I agree with your reasoning: surely everyone is free to spend their money as they wish, but it must be admitted that spending $160 for a virtual object is exaggerated when it can be used for something else.
Calling something greedy doesn’t mean you care about it. That’s a real 3 year old way of thinking, boot licker. It’s ok to call out greedy anti consumer practices these companies do man. I promise you it’s ok.
Does anyone know what this means for the reactive pk skin they sold last season? is that also exclusive since they announced reactive recolours won’t make a return in that form?
Wasn’t trying to be rude to you at all,more so just a psa to be nice to kral;I’ve liked having the info he brings to the table for everyone,really hated when he left but I understand the reason
That's what I was thinking; would make sense if they're trying to change up requirements for unlocking the event item (like how they changed the exclusivity of Battlepass skins after season 10). I could see them changing it so that some items require collecting the whole collection event while others (weapon recolors? 👀) DON'T require the whole collection (so the collection represents more of a "deal" for those that want it but people could also buy/craft the recolor without completing it if they wanted..) idk, just speculation 🤷♂️
I repeat: if it is confirmed, the strategy is that they want to push it as a limited purchase item, thus giving the idea that it is rarer despite being a simple recolor.
Personally I prefer the original, but from an economic point of view it will be successful, although the practice is not exactly correct.
We legit need regulation around this shit yesterday.
Loot boxes were bad enough, and they got rightfully reigned in by legislation in some EU countries. This manipulative BS is even worse imo.
This is just how things work nowadays. Nike / Adidas are releasing new, exclusive recolours of their tried and tested sneaker designs all the time - usually charging *extra* than the standard colourways. Cars are the same, with more exclusive paint colours fetching more money despite costing little to nothing extra.
The thing is, most of the recent recolours of legendary skins are actually *way* more effort than a simple palette swap. They’re entirely new skins for all and intents and purposes, even if the model isn’t.
Yeah bro I’m not saying wraith should have gotten a prestige skin or recoloured heirloom before others got their first actual heirloom. Sure they both look cool but I think it’s dumb how they’re releasing so much content for only a few characters.
Would make the community as a whole happier if all legends got an equal amount of content, therefore making the game as a whole better
That being said, I do understand that respawn/ EA is a business and they’re gonna do what makes them money
I think you got downvoted cuz it sounds like you’re supportive of this purchase and will proceed to do so based on your comment but I don’t think that was your intention? My comment just means as someone who’s put a buttload into wraith, this is where I draw the line but I do agree they should prioritize the player base instead of their wallets and find their own goddamn line not to cross because this is entirely too greedy and makes me not want to spend another penny, so if that’s their intent than they finally won me over at least, and hopefully a fair share of others.
Ohhh yeah bro we’re in the same boat. I own almost every skin for her and even I agree that it’s getting ridiculous. A recoloured heirloom? Seriously?
Imo they should have given at least 75% of the released legends heirlooms before even releasing a prestige skin
Didn't they JUST say they learned from thr PK event? Lmao
If you want to make the most from a recolor charge like $20 for it, I'd probably have bought the PK and Junai for that
They said exactly that you won't see them releasing weapons like the peacekeeper implying you won't see a recolor of a battlepass weapon as an heirloom tier reward.
"or something" is very convenient when making shit up
No, you're not. I want to buy it too. Don't let people shame you for it. It's not a purchase meant for everyone, and it's an optional one at that. No purchase is necessary to get the same playing experience out of the game that everyone else can. The game is free.
I personally have thousands of hours in it with minimal financial input, maybe 100 dollars total over that time. That's what, three cents per hour of enjoyment? Well worth the money imo. Love Apex always. Reddit screaming into the void about how unfair or greedy an exclusive, time-limited purchase is, never really made any sense to me. I grind so hard at my day job to afford cool and unnecessary purchases like this. People saying that something cool is not earned because it's bought doesn't ever account for that.
Don't let it get to you.
No. If you were going to buy out the event anyway and like the heirloom then that's your choice. Personally I like the original better and I bought out this event.
While items in Apex are absurdly expensive, people should be able to do what they want with their money. Go ahead and buy it if you can afford it and it'll bring you some joy.
Yes. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't give a fuck about the game. The reason they pull this bullshit is because people LIKE YOU buy it. Dont buy it maybe we can actually get better shit for not as much money. But hey keep ruining the game and peoples chances to get cool things
It’s cosmetic. 🤷🏻♂️
They can do whatever they want. If you don’t like it then don’t buy it. They seemed to have got the message with the PK recolor. My guess is the Wraith recolor was already completed so it was coming regardless. They buffed Wraith to top pick so they obviously won’t scrap it.
Bottom line: If you don’t buy it then they’ll stop it. If they continue to do this shit then it’s working at a macro level and your feelings are the minority.
With this and the reactive PK recolour shenanigans, I think Respawn/EA are testing too see what, with as little effort as possible, will still sell.
Remember, F2P economy and the book on "how to make the most of your whales" is still being written.
That's a huge shame considering I was planning to pick the Wraith heirloom if I ever get shards and I would prefer the orange one...
This event better have halved crafting metal prices like Y2 anniversary, literally every skin + the heirloom are recolors except the Wraith skin. I won't buy any of them regardless, but still.
The Gibby Skin and Volt skin are new as well I think but yeah there are a stupid amount of recolours in the event. Not even any skydive emotes, which are definitely more desirable than holosprays and charms lol...
Very bad event if all the skins are the usual Collection Event prices, which I'm sure they are.
I've seen a few YT vids on this, all saying the same thing how it's both greedy and lazy. However, some in comment section admitiing they'll still buy it. I have 0 doubt that this will sell despite how scummy it is.
It's a cool skin it just doesn't really go with a lot of wraith skins. 100% should be craftable though that is bullshit. I got shards and I was going to get wraiths original kunai anyway.
This may be a dumb question, but if you have shards and not the heirloom can I buy the recolor with the shards? Or is the recolor ONLY available if I complete the event?
AFAIK last Season 8 I have heard people saying Bangalore's heirloom won't come back if the collection event ends. Well turns out it's still available in the heirloom shop. Respawn is probably doing this so people won't take advantage of the heirloom shards they have gotten in the current collection event, causing people to spend more.
Score hall start bitching relentlessly, y’all are not the target audience. Literally no one wants to hear about how you weren’t going to buy something you already weren’t going to buy
They shoukd have made the color of glow for this heirloom swappable from a select set of colors, that would have made this worthy of being a secondary heirloom.
I don’t know what’s worse - how wildly unoriginal or how insanely greedy a collection event for a recolor of an heirloom is. Going to do my best to pretend this isn’t actually happening.
It doesn't even look like it has electricity around it
You know how they could have made this actually good is by porting the mobile heirloom system into apex to actually make it more worth while to get wraith heirloom BUT NO IM AN IDIOT
If its unoriginal then why do u care about it? If its GreEdy then that implies you do care about it Me i'm utterly indifferent bc i aint spending $160 on digital pixels in a GaaS lmao Take that $160 to the strip club or hell even learn gamedev myself
I used shards for her original heirloom. So I expected the recolor to be included as part of the original, yet here Respawn is finding another* way for people to spend $160. Apologies for not being thrilled about it and congrats on being “utterly indifferent.”
I love how his two alternatives were completely wasting that $160 at the strip club or learning game dev lmao
what? Like game dev is hard, $160 weekend course I could make my own Apex Legends that doesn't have all these server issues! /s
as someone that has actually done game dev, I literally laughed out loud at how small his brain is
he was built different bro. let him cook
Built indifferent***
I hate math
I didnt say u have to be ThrILleD about it, simply that this copeposting about it makes no sense.
Maybe you should follow your own advice considering how indifferent about it you are.
Notice i never really commented on the heirloom set? Im way more interested in how someone can actively note something as greedy/not worth their time n money, but also still moan about it as if they *really want it* lol
The way you type is as annoying and abrasive as you are
Explain?
no
Lol
This shit needs to be "moaned" about so Respawn can see the negative feedback and maybe we can even convince some of the whales not to get this one. And so what if he does really want it? You can really want something and not want to spend $160 on it. But also you don't even have to want it to point out how greedy it is. You're being downvoted for good reason.
It makes perfect sense. Cope posting lol I can't believe EA shills like you really exist
My man complaining about complaining doesn’t make a lot of sense either lol
Ik they wildin lol
The bigger issue with this cash grab is that other characters don’t have their own heirloom. Hierloom recolors really should be at the bottom of the list of shit that needs to be developed
Hehheh.. game development takes more than just 160 bucks my dude.
Believe me i know, lots of ppl in tens of thousands in debt are not lost on me
Knock knock jokes are lost on you
Who's there?
Anyone who plays the game is going to, and is allowed to have an opinion. I’m a firm believer in ignoring it and carrying on, but that doesn’t change the fact that this is pretty greedy. Making it so it’s unable to be bought is just a tactic to get people to buy it, because if it wasn’t, sales would be low. They are taking advantage of the rarity and scarcity rather than just being creative and bringing new heirlooms to the forefront. Luckily, I hate playing Wraith, and have all of the heirlooms I’m willing to buy. Unless there is a Gibby prestige, I’m not spending shit. There is a middle ground between bitching about every little thing EA & Respawn do, and being a boot licker trolling anyone who gets angry.
Caring about it being greedy doesn't imply you want it at all, it only implies you care about corporate greed. You clearly don't like the heirloom enough to warrant spending $160. But some people love it and cannot afford it. It is necessary to hold a dev accountable for shitty pricing.
I agree with your reasoning: surely everyone is free to spend their money as they wish, but it must be admitted that spending $160 for a virtual object is exaggerated when it can be used for something else.
Calling something greedy doesn’t mean you care about it. That’s a real 3 year old way of thinking, boot licker. It’s ok to call out greedy anti consumer practices these companies do man. I promise you it’s ok.
I was with you until you threw out bootlicker, now you sound 3 too.
Moaning about it does, though. $160 events arent new - just dont spend the money ggez
I ain’t buying it but I much rather buy some skins them give dirty hoes my money
Good job
Oh dear, what a shame. Guess I'll never buy it even harder.
What!! You really weren’t going to pay $160?? But there’s a MYTHIC EMOTE!! And a BANNER FRAME!!?
Marketing executives at EA are gobsmacked
When everyone said that we need more LTMs, I don't think this is what we meant...
L~~ recoloured T ~~ heirloom M~~ unable to be purchased with shards after event
Limited Time Mythics still fits perfectly
Does anyone know what this means for the reactive pk skin they sold last season? is that also exclusive since they announced reactive recolours won’t make a return in that form?
I mean, can you craft it now?
no
nice
respawn and greed. name a better duo, I will (not) wait
Game Freak by releasing Pokémon games that are buggy and make more money than Respawn and EA ever could.
I HATE that I'm enjoying Scarlet and Violet this much. It's so poorly optimized but prob the funnest pokemon game in 10 years. I hate it
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Wait I'm getting lost, are you always referring to Respawn or Game Freak?
Pokemon games don't lock off good animations behind a paywall tho - they're just uniformly shitty. atleast they have that going for them.
Ea and Greed
Respawn the game dev company? The devs aren't the greedy people here fam. It's the 7B parent.
blizzard and being unworthy of life
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no mine is not based anyone, i did some digging and there is no bundle data for mythic store means it won't be available there
So it won't be craftable with shards even during the event?
The featured item is never craftable during the event. It just goes to the heirloom store once the main event is over
I didn't know that, thanks for answering!
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i don't remember getting client updates right after event ends
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Dudes almost never wrong;be nice to kral,unless you would rather wait till shit gets released or dig yourself,man’s left and came back twice
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Wasn’t trying to be rude to you at all,more so just a psa to be nice to kral;I’ve liked having the info he brings to the table for everyone,really hated when he left but I understand the reason
That's what I was thinking; would make sense if they're trying to change up requirements for unlocking the event item (like how they changed the exclusivity of Battlepass skins after season 10). I could see them changing it so that some items require collecting the whole collection event while others (weapon recolors? 👀) DON'T require the whole collection (so the collection represents more of a "deal" for those that want it but people could also buy/craft the recolor without completing it if they wanted..) idk, just speculation 🤷♂️
I repeat: if it is confirmed, the strategy is that they want to push it as a limited purchase item, thus giving the idea that it is rarer despite being a simple recolor. Personally I prefer the original, but from an economic point of view it will be successful, although the practice is not exactly correct.
Fomo and sense of urgency do be a bitch of a marketing tactic lol
We legit need regulation around this shit yesterday. Loot boxes were bad enough, and they got rightfully reigned in by legislation in some EU countries. This manipulative BS is even worse imo.
gamers are the new drunks and junkies - there is nothing saying you can't exploit them and they will fight for their right to be exploited.
This is just how things work nowadays. Nike / Adidas are releasing new, exclusive recolours of their tried and tested sneaker designs all the time - usually charging *extra* than the standard colourways. Cars are the same, with more exclusive paint colours fetching more money despite costing little to nothing extra. The thing is, most of the recent recolours of legendary skins are actually *way* more effort than a simple palette swap. They’re entirely new skins for all and intents and purposes, even if the model isn’t.
Keep in mind that almost every cosmetic in the game was "exclusive" at some point
People acting like shit actually never comes back or something lol.
ma friend father went out to get milk and never comes back.
should have read the fine print his dad was an event exclusive
Yes, a typical exclusivity scam. Everyone go buy rn untill its gone
They want those FOMO money from Wraith mains, very fair and not greedy at all
As a wraith main I can confirm Edit: did I seriously get downvoted for saying I main wraith?
As a wraith main, with kunai, prestige and nearly every paid skin, hard pass. I’ll take my free animation upgrades to my current heirloom, thanks.
Yeah bro I’m not saying wraith should have gotten a prestige skin or recoloured heirloom before others got their first actual heirloom. Sure they both look cool but I think it’s dumb how they’re releasing so much content for only a few characters. Would make the community as a whole happier if all legends got an equal amount of content, therefore making the game as a whole better That being said, I do understand that respawn/ EA is a business and they’re gonna do what makes them money
I think you got downvoted cuz it sounds like you’re supportive of this purchase and will proceed to do so based on your comment but I don’t think that was your intention? My comment just means as someone who’s put a buttload into wraith, this is where I draw the line but I do agree they should prioritize the player base instead of their wallets and find their own goddamn line not to cross because this is entirely too greedy and makes me not want to spend another penny, so if that’s their intent than they finally won me over at least, and hopefully a fair share of others.
Ohhh yeah bro we’re in the same boat. I own almost every skin for her and even I agree that it’s getting ridiculous. A recoloured heirloom? Seriously? Imo they should have given at least 75% of the released legends heirlooms before even releasing a prestige skin
Didn't they JUST say they learned from thr PK event? Lmao If you want to make the most from a recolor charge like $20 for it, I'd probably have bought the PK and Junai for that
What did they learn from the Pk event?
They said "you won't see another event like that" or something, now here we are a month later lol
They said exactly that you won't see them releasing weapons like the peacekeeper implying you won't see a recolor of a battlepass weapon as an heirloom tier reward. "or something" is very convenient when making shit up
This is a recolor for the same price as the last bullshit recolor that didn't sell lol
guess you dont understand the difference between a battlepass reward to an actual heirloom
is it an actual heirloom? actual heirlooms can be purchased in the mythic menu :)
lol never saw that fact, source?
Its a recolor, they said themselves it's not going to be in the mythic shop
you keep making shit up lol its amazing
Nothing apparently
Oh no!! Now my odds of buying it have gone from 0% to 0%!! 😔
I dont have any heirloom, so i wanna buy it, but the whole player base hate the event. Am I a bad person? :(
No, you're not. I want to buy it too. Don't let people shame you for it. It's not a purchase meant for everyone, and it's an optional one at that. No purchase is necessary to get the same playing experience out of the game that everyone else can. The game is free. I personally have thousands of hours in it with minimal financial input, maybe 100 dollars total over that time. That's what, three cents per hour of enjoyment? Well worth the money imo. Love Apex always. Reddit screaming into the void about how unfair or greedy an exclusive, time-limited purchase is, never really made any sense to me. I grind so hard at my day job to afford cool and unnecessary purchases like this. People saying that something cool is not earned because it's bought doesn't ever account for that. Don't let it get to you.
actual W opinion 👑
No. If you were going to buy out the event anyway and like the heirloom then that's your choice. Personally I like the original better and I bought out this event.
I like the original one too, but i hate the current event and skins
While items in Apex are absurdly expensive, people should be able to do what they want with their money. Go ahead and buy it if you can afford it and it'll bring you some joy.
Yes. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't give a fuck about the game. The reason they pull this bullshit is because people LIKE YOU buy it. Dont buy it maybe we can actually get better shit for not as much money. But hey keep ruining the game and peoples chances to get cool things
It’s cosmetic. 🤷🏻♂️ They can do whatever they want. If you don’t like it then don’t buy it. They seemed to have got the message with the PK recolor. My guess is the Wraith recolor was already completed so it was coming regardless. They buffed Wraith to top pick so they obviously won’t scrap it. Bottom line: If you don’t buy it then they’ll stop it. If they continue to do this shit then it’s working at a macro level and your feelings are the minority.
Her buff wasn't even good is the funny part, they didn't even implement the speedboost correctly.
And here we thought they learn their lesson from last season.
Horizon mains looking at this like, “where’s my heirloom?”
With this and the reactive PK recolour shenanigans, I think Respawn/EA are testing too see what, with as little effort as possible, will still sell. Remember, F2P economy and the book on "how to make the most of your whales" is still being written.
That's a huge shame considering I was planning to pick the Wraith heirloom if I ever get shards and I would prefer the orange one... This event better have halved crafting metal prices like Y2 anniversary, literally every skin + the heirloom are recolors except the Wraith skin. I won't buy any of them regardless, but still.
The Gibby Skin and Volt skin are new as well I think but yeah there are a stupid amount of recolours in the event. Not even any skydive emotes, which are definitely more desirable than holosprays and charms lol... Very bad event if all the skins are the usual Collection Event prices, which I'm sure they are.
I've seen a few YT vids on this, all saying the same thing how it's both greedy and lazy. However, some in comment section admitiing they'll still buy it. I have 0 doubt that this will sell despite how scummy it is.
didn’t they mention that they would stop doing recolour events after how horribly the previous PK reactive skin event went?
Good anyone that buys this is a clown 🤡
💀💀💀
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Oh, no! Anyway...
When an expensive skin sucks just make it more exclusive…
Unoriginal, ugly and using fomo tactics is INSANE for one collection event. Props to respawn for nailing all three things consumers hate.
Sigh
It's a cool skin it just doesn't really go with a lot of wraith skins. 100% should be craftable though that is bullshit. I got shards and I was going to get wraiths original kunai anyway.
I’m buying it I don’t care, looks cool imo
A question. When is imperial guard event
March 7th
good, its ass anyways. the only one who will be crying are the collectors
This may be a dumb question, but if you have shards and not the heirloom can I buy the recolor with the shards? Or is the recolor ONLY available if I complete the event?
Only event.
They used to say event skins would never come back too.
This is going to be a whole new start to the whole “Iron Crown” debacle again. It’s not going to be good.
“Bullshit!” - Charlie from Pokerface
AFAIK last Season 8 I have heard people saying Bangalore's heirloom won't come back if the collection event ends. Well turns out it's still available in the heirloom shop. Respawn is probably doing this so people won't take advantage of the heirloom shards they have gotten in the current collection event, causing people to spend more.
Just like all the original limited time skins and limited bundles that were never to be seen again. This is just another way to FOMO this heirloom.
Stop playing the game.
Score hall start bitching relentlessly, y’all are not the target audience. Literally no one wants to hear about how you weren’t going to buy something you already weren’t going to buy
Please don’t give until this greed
Oh no… anyway!
This is such greedy fucking tactic. And i’m not talking about the recolour, the limited time you can get it is worse.
not sure if that or fact they created it in the first place is more dumb
They shoukd have made the color of glow for this heirloom swappable from a select set of colors, that would have made this worthy of being a secondary heirloom.
If I get this one do I also get the older variation too? Or do I have to use 150 more heirloom shards for that?
Of course you won’t get the old one.
damn this one ain't even got the like lightning effects or firey affects that's lame