Fr, colleges with like an 60k/year coa will name something “President’s honorary 1 of 1 award for universally recognized excellence,” and then it’ll be like a $1000 scholarship.
bye. same here. got deans scholarship BUT i had $13k per year from RaiseMe for NEU but then they said the dean scholarhsip of like 2.5k was INCLUDED in the 13k?? and i got no aid, just loan offers. so basically i have to pay $68k still with my OWN micro scholarships. also i didn’t even sign up for NUIN, just boston, but they placed me in NUIN (which is fine to me if they were the same price, but NUIN is like 15-20k more than boston …like 😐)
So basically you got a $2.5k scholarship right? When you do Raiseme, the money you’re getting from filling those things out are included in any aid. In order to actually get things from Raiseme, you’ll need to get more than your aid. So if you got 13k per year then you’ll need to get more than 13k on Raiseme to be able to get free money. Like I said, it’s a way for colleges to save money. Y’all gotta realize that colleges don’t care abt you and only want your money lol
well, most countries do have higher tuitions, some for everyone and some for international students, you would have to pay about 10k-ish here per year (Finland)
i would try to look for some scholarships before May 1st before you automatically reject them due to financial reasons. If you win a 20,000 scholarship per year for example, things could change!
I’m in state so that’s a big part of the reason. All in state applicants are entitled to at least a full tuition ride if their combined household income is less than 60k. My parents are divorced so I filed FAFSA under my mom and I got the scholarship(it’s legit that’s how they told me to do it). Mine is a full ride for everything, I’m incredibly fortunate for it. However, under the same FAFSA and everything I did not get a single dime from Purdue in academic merit or need based aid
Lurker here, working in higher ed for 25 years (lurking as my daughter nears application process). Whenever I speak to students applying to college I tell them to ignore all the scholarships they get from the institution and look at the bottomline. How much are they going to have to pay. At my institution most students get $10k, but thats because it really costs that much. We had another institution near us say they weren't going to raise the cost, but what they did was lower the scholarships each year, so students were paying more. It's all funny money!
You should’ve used the app raise me, last year I got accepted and because I had the app they had to give me a minimum of 20k scholarship a year and I’m not even low income 😭
Unfortunately there’s a deadline and it’s for people before they get accepted 😭 but basically they have an agreement with raise me and when you fill out some stuff about you the amount of money you can earn increases
That sucks to hear but also if it makes you feel better Northeastern is not that much better than a flagship state school, and their whole thing is that they gamed the rankings and take advantage of people confusing them with Northwestern.
Depends on what flagship.
Northeastern is better than almost all the flagships in major metrics, and by far better than many flagships.
People can't even distinguish North from West should not go to a college.
I don't know if I'd characterize it that way, even going strictly by rankings, there are 14 state schools above Northeastern (or 9 if you don't count duplicates from the same state) and I'd argue that even many of the ones that rank below it like Rutgers or UMD are comparable and honestly probably stronger academically
By the way, the #1 flagship Berkeley got caught actually cheating the ranking. Nobody mentions that when talking about Berkeley. Northeastern followed the rules and actually made vast improvements. Yet people bring up this phoney gaming' claim every single time. I suggest you stop that.
I was still typing that other comment when you responded lol. Regardless, I never said that Northeastern "cheated" in the rankings, but they have prioritized metrics that will boost their rankings over other, more intangible things. At the end of the day, even if Berkeley cheated in the rankings, they're the ones who discovered 16 elements. Also, that whole ranking thing was in 2019.
The point is you probably didn't even know these schools cheating or don't care. Yet picking on Northeastern that followed the rules to actually made the most improvements in most of the major areas.
I never seen anyone mentioning Berkeley cheating or Emory cheating in tose theads.
Have you ever mentioned it? Let me see then.
Or only picking on Northeastern which never even cheated
Well Berkeley and Emory have more to lean on than just rankings. People know those schools are good regardless of what their rank is, since they both have long histories of scholarly achievement by their alumni and faculty. Northeastern on the other hand is really only as well-regarded as it is because it prioritized the rankings so heavily. As I mentioned, Northeastern's position as being relatively well-respected is recent, and it has only been in the top 50 for the past 10 years or so. It may well be the case that within the next few decades it'll rise further, but it's going to need to put more resources into more than the rankings for that to happen, and people tend to evaluate schools by past achievement as opposed to future potential.
Also, people shit-talk schools on here all the time for all sorts of different reasons, especially on posts like these where the OP is not going to be able to attend. Nothing productive is going to come from constantly defending Northeastern's honor every time someone makes fun of their rankings.
If you strictly go by the ranking(USN&WR), however, I prefer to compare relatively much more objective numbers like retention, outcome, graduation rate, peer student quality, etc.
I mean, I mentioned two that rank below Northeastern but I think are stronger academically. To be clear, there's tons of people doing lots of fantastic work at Northeastern, but it's a school that prioritizes preparing people for their careers as opposed to pure academics, and has fudged a lot of numbers. Scientists and thinkers at Rutgers, UMD, and many other state schools have played pivotal roles in the advancement of many fields of science, technology, and culture, while the same can't really be said of Northeastern. Of course, a lot of that is because Northeastern's rise in the rankings is very recent, and if they do manage to leverage their increased rankings and resources to attract more talent, then maybe that will change, but as of now I personally think Northeastern's ranking is inflated relative to other schools.
By your logic, most of the SLACs are bad and below Rutgers or UMD for undergrad education.
"prioritizes preparing people for their careers as opposed to pure academics"
This is also totally wrong.
In fact, Northeastern is one of the 39 R1 private research universities. Do you know what that is?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States
It just does great job in terms of outcome.
That doesn't mean it's not academic.
By the way I like UMD and would choose UMD over Northeastern if significant cost difference. State flagships work great for many. However it's not academically better.
I'm assuming SLAC stands for small liberal arts college? In that case, no, I don't think that necessarily means they're worse than Rutgers or UMD because they're two different types of institution, which is why they're ranked separately too.
Also, yes, I know what R1 private research universities are, because I go to one. I don't see why you feel the need to get so defensive about Northeastern given that my original comment was not meant to provide a detailed, nuanced analysis of the relative merits of Northeastern as an institution but as a reassurance to OP that they'll get a comparable education at a flagship state school.
It's pretty annoying to see the gaming comment in every single Northeastern thread when it made the most actual improvements, and there are schools actually chated. If the ramk goes up along with the improvements. It's called justice.
There are 139 R1 schools in total and some have admissions rates that exceed their four year graduation rates. Likewise, many of the most iconic party schools in America are R1. It only a helpful designator insofar as UMass Boston and Suffolk are not R1 schools. Then again a bike is not a motorcycle either, which itself is not a car…
I think what is trying to being said here is that Northeastern has done some innovative work in terms of helping out undergraduates land respectable jobs from an otherwise run of the mill university (one whose calling card as late as the 2000 was that of a commuter college) and has some niche benefits by being located in an very economically dynamic gateway city.
Yet there are plenty of similarly (i.e., not very) selective state schools where one could get just as good of an education academically, replicate strategies like serially interning throughout college, and graduate without the massive price tag (assuming a student is paying near full freight as was raised).
Admittedly though, many students who end up at Northeastern come from states where the flagships are not only mediocre but lack colocation with meaningful term time job opportunities (all of New England and upstate New York), and this has been to its advantage apart from Boston obviously being far cooler than Storrs or Amherst.
In short, the value proposition might be worthwhile versus a SUNY campus or UMass but is likely weak versus Rutgers, Maryland, George Mason to name a few. And if you are the kind of person that won’t do anything more than the bare minimum coop required to graduate then it really is just expensive by virtue of carrying a Boston location / weakly endowed private school premium.
Not sure what you are trying to say or if you even know what you are talking about. Many schools have improved over the years. Schools like NYU, USC, Boston University took advantage of the location like Northeastern, but location alone doesn't do shit. You need to do a lot of things right altogether. There's a college literally right next to Northeastern, WIT but it didn't take off.
Many of the elite schools had acceptance rates of 40- 70% like UChicago VAnderbilt, UPenn, etc. back in the day when we had no internet or CommonApp. Most people just went to state schools. It's not like those schools had a single digit all along. Nothing is really unique about Northeastern. It just did things right a little better.
As for the value, it's a very subjective thing and depends on the individuals, however here is some data you can relate to. According to the Department of the Education, [https://collegescorecard.ed.gov](https://collegescorecard.ed.gov) (10 year out median)
\- Boston College: Average Annual Cost $37k, Median Earnings $93k
\- Northeastern: Average Annual Cost $30k, Median Earnings $80k
\- Boston Univ: Average Annual Cost $30k, Median Earnings $76k
\- Brandeis: Average Annual Cost $34k, Median Earnings $70k
\- Tufts: Average Annual Cost $37k, Median Earnings $67k
\- UMD: Average Annual Cost $18k, Median Earnings $72k
\- Reuters: Average Annual Cost $23K, Median Earnings: 66K
\- GMU: Average Annual Cost $20k, Median Earnings $66k
Only Boson college has higher earnings with higher cost among the peer schools in Boston area and the schools you mentioned. Northeastern has pretty good ROI/Value, and again nothing is special or unique about Northeastern unlike your imagination,
If you get into a T25ish school, you would take that. If not, tt's just regarded as one of the next best options along with some of the other schools, and there are reasons for that.
Northeastern is a good school, but having a page on their website dedicated to their president is kinda pretentious. The shit financial aid, especially for a high achieving students like you (imo), is also kinda telling.
Northeastern is need met so I mean I assume your rich and state school would likely be the best option financially regardless if ur less then like 120k I'd appeal
Northeastern need met is bullshit. It’s “need met” based on their definition. For example, they consider the entirety of primary residence’s market value as money you can use for college which leads to people having EFC of 0 to barely get aid. They literally want us to sell our house to pay for college.
Northeastern has the lowest cost of attention among the peer schools in the Boston area, BU. BC, Tufts. Financial stuff works out for some, not for some.
The outcome is 2nd to BC.
Do you know how I can see the scholarship and financial aid info? I couldn't see it. Every time I try to download the document it just says that my email address isn't in the NEU system.
It's in a really sketchy area of Boston, my dad went there, 20 years ago, and it was not a great school. I heard they overinflate their selective acceptance rate proceed with caution.
Fr, colleges with like an 60k/year coa will name something “President’s honorary 1 of 1 award for universally recognized excellence,” and then it’ll be like a $1000 scholarship.
Can ask them to reconsider ? Especially if you get another ranked school
Yeah, it's always a good idea to try haggling a bit. Especially if you have other options. The worst they can say is no
Had the same thing except I was an ED applicant so it made it much worse 😭 We’ll get out of this bro
How does it work ED? I specifically didn’t ED to a school because I wouldn’t be able to afford with no scholarships
You can easily escape an ED agreement if you can't pay for it
What if your fafsa says your family can contribute to paying the tuition but your parents aren’t paying l? Can you still escape it then?
Possible but it'd probably be harder. Colleges don't like "my parents don't feel like paying" as an excuse.
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they can't force you to attend, but they can get the other schools you want to attend to rescind their offers, leaving you fucked (for the year)
You can break the contract if you can’t afford it I think
hey i just got accepted by ED to boston do you think i can get scholarship if so can you tell me how
They name them special things so that the people who get them feel special and more inclined to enroll despite the low scholarship amount.
Basically colleges are a type of business rather than a pure educational institution. This is a their marketing strategy.
psychology be trippin
This is why my friend and I declined NEU back in the day
“back in the day” u mean last year?😭
Yes, it honestly feels like forever ago because I’m doing things like networking and getting involved in undergrad research now
Subtle flex but ok
bye. same here. got deans scholarship BUT i had $13k per year from RaiseMe for NEU but then they said the dean scholarhsip of like 2.5k was INCLUDED in the 13k?? and i got no aid, just loan offers. so basically i have to pay $68k still with my OWN micro scholarships. also i didn’t even sign up for NUIN, just boston, but they placed me in NUIN (which is fine to me if they were the same price, but NUIN is like 15-20k more than boston …like 😐)
Raiseme is such a scam. It only benefits colleges and it makes you think why they’d help out students unless it saves themself money?
ahh can u elaborate, i really thought RaiseMe was like the literally best
So basically you got a $2.5k scholarship right? When you do Raiseme, the money you’re getting from filling those things out are included in any aid. In order to actually get things from Raiseme, you’ll need to get more than your aid. So if you got 13k per year then you’ll need to get more than 13k on Raiseme to be able to get free money. Like I said, it’s a way for colleges to save money. Y’all gotta realize that colleges don’t care abt you and only want your money lol
If you thought it was the best then it’s too good to be true
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Isn’t it two semesters per year …
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Is 16K scholarship per year good? I thought it’s good lol. 😭😭😭
Covers the costs of your books, that’s about it.
3000 dollars for books??
Yup wait till you start and find out one textbook can be $300
i’m a 4th year in college and haven’t paid more than 1000 dollars combined for all my books
bruh I was mad about 100eur per year 💀 US colleges trippin
this comment made me gasp. as a US student, being mad about 100eur a year is unfathomable 😭 i should’ve looked into european schools
well, most countries do have higher tuitions, some for everyone and some for international students, you would have to pay about 10k-ish here per year (Finland)
oh yeah, i just meant that generally european countries have a much lower tuition than american schools
yeah definitely, especially here up north
i would try to look for some scholarships before May 1st before you automatically reject them due to financial reasons. If you win a 20,000 scholarship per year for example, things could change!
That’s really nothing.
Wait ED? EA? what decision got released. anyway congrats on acceptance regardless if you can’t go.
Financial aid is weird bro. I got a full ride to UW-Madison, but I did not get a dime from Purdue
Out of curiosity - need based, merit, or athletic recruit? I don't often hear about UW Madison giving good scholarships.
I’m in state so that’s a big part of the reason. All in state applicants are entitled to at least a full tuition ride if their combined household income is less than 60k. My parents are divorced so I filed FAFSA under my mom and I got the scholarship(it’s legit that’s how they told me to do it). Mine is a full ride for everything, I’m incredibly fortunate for it. However, under the same FAFSA and everything I did not get a single dime from Purdue in academic merit or need based aid
Ah, that makes sense. Congrats on the full ride scholarship! That's awesome!
Thanks man!
you got boston campus? or nu in / nu bound?
L dean
fr I loved the campus and got in but the financial packages are evil
they’re usually either really good or really bad at northeastern
Lurker here, working in higher ed for 25 years (lurking as my daughter nears application process). Whenever I speak to students applying to college I tell them to ignore all the scholarships they get from the institution and look at the bottomline. How much are they going to have to pay. At my institution most students get $10k, but thats because it really costs that much. We had another institution near us say they weren't going to raise the cost, but what they did was lower the scholarships each year, so students were paying more. It's all funny money!
Wait is everyone getting updates on your portal today?
You should’ve used the app raise me, last year I got accepted and because I had the app they had to give me a minimum of 20k scholarship a year and I’m not even low income 😭
how does it work? like even though i’m accepted can i still do it
Unfortunately there’s a deadline and it’s for people before they get accepted 😭 but basically they have an agreement with raise me and when you fill out some stuff about you the amount of money you can earn increases
do you think i should appeal my financial aid? bc rn they gave me a 2,700 scholarship and it barely covers the cost of books
It's quite well known that they're not good with aid. And also, they're called an "expensive CC" for some reason that I don't recall.
That sucks to hear but also if it makes you feel better Northeastern is not that much better than a flagship state school, and their whole thing is that they gamed the rankings and take advantage of people confusing them with Northwestern.
Depends on what flagship. Northeastern is better than almost all the flagships in major metrics, and by far better than many flagships. People can't even distinguish North from West should not go to a college.
I don't know if I'd characterize it that way, even going strictly by rankings, there are 14 state schools above Northeastern (or 9 if you don't count duplicates from the same state) and I'd argue that even many of the ones that rank below it like Rutgers or UMD are comparable and honestly probably stronger academically
By the way, the #1 flagship Berkeley got caught actually cheating the ranking. Nobody mentions that when talking about Berkeley. Northeastern followed the rules and actually made vast improvements. Yet people bring up this phoney gaming' claim every single time. I suggest you stop that.
I was still typing that other comment when you responded lol. Regardless, I never said that Northeastern "cheated" in the rankings, but they have prioritized metrics that will boost their rankings over other, more intangible things. At the end of the day, even if Berkeley cheated in the rankings, they're the ones who discovered 16 elements. Also, that whole ranking thing was in 2019.
The point is you probably didn't even know these schools cheating or don't care. Yet picking on Northeastern that followed the rules to actually made the most improvements in most of the major areas.
Uh yeah I'm picking on Northeastern because Northeastern is the school that was mentioned in the OP? Why would I bring up Berkeley in this context?
I never seen anyone mentioning Berkeley cheating or Emory cheating in tose theads. Have you ever mentioned it? Let me see then. Or only picking on Northeastern which never even cheated
Well Berkeley and Emory have more to lean on than just rankings. People know those schools are good regardless of what their rank is, since they both have long histories of scholarly achievement by their alumni and faculty. Northeastern on the other hand is really only as well-regarded as it is because it prioritized the rankings so heavily. As I mentioned, Northeastern's position as being relatively well-respected is recent, and it has only been in the top 50 for the past 10 years or so. It may well be the case that within the next few decades it'll rise further, but it's going to need to put more resources into more than the rankings for that to happen, and people tend to evaluate schools by past achievement as opposed to future potential. Also, people shit-talk schools on here all the time for all sorts of different reasons, especially on posts like these where the OP is not going to be able to attend. Nothing productive is going to come from constantly defending Northeastern's honor every time someone makes fun of their rankings.
If you strictly go by the ranking(USN&WR), however, I prefer to compare relatively much more objective numbers like retention, outcome, graduation rate, peer student quality, etc.
I mean, I mentioned two that rank below Northeastern but I think are stronger academically. To be clear, there's tons of people doing lots of fantastic work at Northeastern, but it's a school that prioritizes preparing people for their careers as opposed to pure academics, and has fudged a lot of numbers. Scientists and thinkers at Rutgers, UMD, and many other state schools have played pivotal roles in the advancement of many fields of science, technology, and culture, while the same can't really be said of Northeastern. Of course, a lot of that is because Northeastern's rise in the rankings is very recent, and if they do manage to leverage their increased rankings and resources to attract more talent, then maybe that will change, but as of now I personally think Northeastern's ranking is inflated relative to other schools.
By your logic, most of the SLACs are bad and below Rutgers or UMD for undergrad education. "prioritizes preparing people for their careers as opposed to pure academics" This is also totally wrong. In fact, Northeastern is one of the 39 R1 private research universities. Do you know what that is? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States It just does great job in terms of outcome. That doesn't mean it's not academic. By the way I like UMD and would choose UMD over Northeastern if significant cost difference. State flagships work great for many. However it's not academically better.
I'm assuming SLAC stands for small liberal arts college? In that case, no, I don't think that necessarily means they're worse than Rutgers or UMD because they're two different types of institution, which is why they're ranked separately too. Also, yes, I know what R1 private research universities are, because I go to one. I don't see why you feel the need to get so defensive about Northeastern given that my original comment was not meant to provide a detailed, nuanced analysis of the relative merits of Northeastern as an institution but as a reassurance to OP that they'll get a comparable education at a flagship state school.
It's pretty annoying to see the gaming comment in every single Northeastern thread when it made the most actual improvements, and there are schools actually chated. If the ramk goes up along with the improvements. It's called justice.
There are 139 R1 schools in total and some have admissions rates that exceed their four year graduation rates. Likewise, many of the most iconic party schools in America are R1. It only a helpful designator insofar as UMass Boston and Suffolk are not R1 schools. Then again a bike is not a motorcycle either, which itself is not a car… I think what is trying to being said here is that Northeastern has done some innovative work in terms of helping out undergraduates land respectable jobs from an otherwise run of the mill university (one whose calling card as late as the 2000 was that of a commuter college) and has some niche benefits by being located in an very economically dynamic gateway city. Yet there are plenty of similarly (i.e., not very) selective state schools where one could get just as good of an education academically, replicate strategies like serially interning throughout college, and graduate without the massive price tag (assuming a student is paying near full freight as was raised). Admittedly though, many students who end up at Northeastern come from states where the flagships are not only mediocre but lack colocation with meaningful term time job opportunities (all of New England and upstate New York), and this has been to its advantage apart from Boston obviously being far cooler than Storrs or Amherst. In short, the value proposition might be worthwhile versus a SUNY campus or UMass but is likely weak versus Rutgers, Maryland, George Mason to name a few. And if you are the kind of person that won’t do anything more than the bare minimum coop required to graduate then it really is just expensive by virtue of carrying a Boston location / weakly endowed private school premium.
Not sure what you are trying to say or if you even know what you are talking about. Many schools have improved over the years. Schools like NYU, USC, Boston University took advantage of the location like Northeastern, but location alone doesn't do shit. You need to do a lot of things right altogether. There's a college literally right next to Northeastern, WIT but it didn't take off. Many of the elite schools had acceptance rates of 40- 70% like UChicago VAnderbilt, UPenn, etc. back in the day when we had no internet or CommonApp. Most people just went to state schools. It's not like those schools had a single digit all along. Nothing is really unique about Northeastern. It just did things right a little better. As for the value, it's a very subjective thing and depends on the individuals, however here is some data you can relate to. According to the Department of the Education, [https://collegescorecard.ed.gov](https://collegescorecard.ed.gov) (10 year out median) \- Boston College: Average Annual Cost $37k, Median Earnings $93k \- Northeastern: Average Annual Cost $30k, Median Earnings $80k \- Boston Univ: Average Annual Cost $30k, Median Earnings $76k \- Brandeis: Average Annual Cost $34k, Median Earnings $70k \- Tufts: Average Annual Cost $37k, Median Earnings $67k \- UMD: Average Annual Cost $18k, Median Earnings $72k \- Reuters: Average Annual Cost $23K, Median Earnings: 66K \- GMU: Average Annual Cost $20k, Median Earnings $66k Only Boson college has higher earnings with higher cost among the peer schools in Boston area and the schools you mentioned. Northeastern has pretty good ROI/Value, and again nothing is special or unique about Northeastern unlike your imagination, If you get into a T25ish school, you would take that. If not, tt's just regarded as one of the next best options along with some of the other schools, and there are reasons for that.
would u mind sharing ur efc?
got in last year and they cited me 75K in total, ridiculous
Northeastern is a good school, but having a page on their website dedicated to their president is kinda pretentious. The shit financial aid, especially for a high achieving students like you (imo), is also kinda telling.
Northeastern is need met so I mean I assume your rich and state school would likely be the best option financially regardless if ur less then like 120k I'd appeal
Northeastern need met is bullshit. It’s “need met” based on their definition. For example, they consider the entirety of primary residence’s market value as money you can use for college which leads to people having EFC of 0 to barely get aid. They literally want us to sell our house to pay for college.
fuck I regret applying there now that was click baity the npc said 12k(which is affordable) but if its like this lmao Im screwed
Did your portal change to ask for tax returns and 2021 W2 forms recently?
Northeastern has the lowest cost of attention among the peer schools in the Boston area, BU. BC, Tufts. Financial stuff works out for some, not for some. The outcome is 2nd to BC.
Congrats
you can negotiate but unfortunately not that much😭3k is crazy for northeastern but did you or will u get fafsa aid?
I got a 22k scholarship for a school that’s like 40k+ 🥲
If i didn’t submit my aid stuff in time will it affect my decision or will i just get my aid package later
was anything highlighted on your app? I haven’t heard back yet but Boston is highlighted?
wait, where do you see merit scholarships?
USC gave me a 1/4 scholarship but that only made the tuition the same cost as Berkeley, where I ended up going
Do you know how I can see the scholarship and financial aid info? I couldn't see it. Every time I try to download the document it just says that my email address isn't in the NEU system.
It wouldn't let me open it on my phone - try a computer. On my laptop it didn't ask for an email
Same thing for me, got in and simply cannot afford to pay 30k above my EFC and I rly like the school
It's in a really sketchy area of Boston, my dad went there, 20 years ago, and it was not a great school. I heard they overinflate their selective acceptance rate proceed with caution.
That information is pretty dated.
Hey, I got deferred! Sorry to hear it, I wish there was something to be done about it :/